The arabic word for slave is the same...

The arabic word for slave is the same as for a black man

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See through walls

Liverpool, UK

#1 Oct 21, 2008
Abd

The language of Allah. No difference between a black person and a slave.
KG-J

Glendale, AZ

#2 Oct 21, 2008
I thought the word wujoohun meant black.

Where did you get your translation?
saquilla

Boston, MA

#3 Dec 13, 2008
racist! that is not the language of Allah! He the almighty one does not encorage hatred!
Amillennialist

Westminster, CA

#4 Jun 29, 2009
Does Allah "encourage hatred"?

Why, yes:

"the Messenger of Allah ... would say:'Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war.... When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action.... Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them.... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them ...'" (Muslim Book 19, Number 4294).

"fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)... " (Qur’an 9:5).

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth,(even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (Qur'an 9:29).

"Allah's Apostle said:'I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle ...'" (Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24).

"It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise" (Qur'an 8:67).
Amillennialist

Westminster, CA

#5 Jun 29, 2009
What about these:

"Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message):'I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them'" (Qur'an 8:12).

"Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them)... Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah's Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost" (Qur'an 47:4).

"...he [Muhammad] said [to Abu Sufyan],‘Isn’t it time that you should recognize that there is no God but Allah?’

He answered,‘You are dearer to me than father or mother. How great is your clemency, honour, and kindness! By God, I thought that had there been another God with God he would have continued to help me.’

He said,‘Woe to you, Abu Sufyan, isn’t it time that you should recognize that I am God’s apostle?’

He answered,‘As to that I still have some doubt.’

I said to him,‘Submit and testify that there is no God but Allah and that Muhammad is the apostle of God before you lose your head,’ so he did so" (Ishaq, 547).
Amillennialist

Westminster, CA

#6 Jun 29, 2009
Or these:

"Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (Qur'an 5:82).

"And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected" (Qur'an 2:65).

"Allah's Apostle said,'The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say, "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him"'" (Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 177).

"... We were (sitting) in the mosque when the Messenger of Allah ... came to us and said:(Let us) go to the Jews. We went out with him until we came to them. The Messenger of Allah ... stood up and called out to them (saying): O ye assembly of Jews, accept Islam (and) you will be safe.

[...]

"he killed their men, and distributed their women, children and properties among the Muslims, except that some of them had joined the Messenger of Allah ... who granted them security. They embraced Islam. The Messenger of Allah ... turned out all the Jews of Medlina. Banu Qainuqa'(the tribe of 'Abdullah b. Salim) and the Jews of Banu Haritha and every other Jew who was in Medina.

[...]

"It has been narrated by 'Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah ... say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim" (Muslim Book 19, Number 4363-4366)."

"Abu Burda reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle ... said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire.'Umar b. Abd al-'Aziz took an oath: By One besides Whom there is no god but He, thrice that his father had narrated that to him from Allah's Messenger ..." (Muslim Book 37, Number 6666).

"Those who disbelieve, neither their possessions nor their (numerous) progeny will avail them aught against Allah: They are themselves but fuel for the Fire" (Qur'an 3:10).

"Yahya related to me from Malik that he heard that Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz gave a decision that when a [J]ew or [C]hristian was killed, his blood-money was half the blood-money of a free muslim.

"Malik said,'What is done in our community, is that a muslim is not killed for a kafir unless the muslim kills him by deceit. Then he is killed for it.'

[...]

"Malik said,'The blood-monies of the Jew, Christian, and Magian in their injuries, is according to the injury of the muslims in their blood-moneys. The head wound is a twentieth of his full blood-money. The wound that opens the head is a third of his blood-money. The belly-wound is a third of his blood-money. All their injuries are according to this calculation'" (Muwatta Book 43, Number 43.15.8b).

"O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust" (Qur'an 5:51).

"Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak" (Qur'an 4:76).

"Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures" (Qur'an 98:6).

"Muhammad - the messenger of GOD - and those with him are harsh and stern against the disbelievers, but kind and compassionate amongst themselves" (Qur'an 48:29).

Nope, no hatred there.

Amillennialist

http://amillennialist.blogspot.com
Andy

Bexleyheath, UK

#7 Jun 29, 2009
As "abd" means "slave" in Arabic, the word is sometimes used as a pejorative term to refer to black people.
Amillennialist

Westminster, CA

#8 Jun 29, 2009
Did you find that at Wikipedia? I was checking out that entry a little while ago.

Hard to find a free Arabic to English translator online.

Since: Oct 08

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#9 Jul 16, 2009
wrong !

blacks means aswad in arabic

and abeed means slave
george whyte

Haverfordwest, UK

#10 Jul 16, 2009
Abid (Arabic: عب&#15 83;‎, plural Abeed عب&#16 10;د or El Abeed ال&#15 93;بي& #1583;) is a derogatory term used mainly in Arab countries and is usually applied as an insult to Black people to invoke stereotypes
Scent of Memories

Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

#11 Jul 16, 2009
If you're ignorant about our language , the right thing is to educate; not to spread your ignorance here.
Abd is a slave whether black , white or coloured. Black means Aswad. Being black or white , slave or free , Muslims had equal rights under Sharia and hat's what matters. About people, narrow minded and ignorant people are everywhere.

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#12 Jul 16, 2009
"Being black or white , slave or free , Muslims had equal rights under Sharia and hat's what matters. About people, narrow minded and ignorant people are everywhere."
Wow talk about ignorant.
A slave has equal rights under Sharia law.

How freeking stupid do you think we are?
Or are you so freeking stupid you don't know.

A Muslim can not take a Muslim as a slave, therefore there are no Muslim slaves.

Rights under Sharia law are determined by your religion and gender. Equality does not exist.
Scent of Memories

Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

#13 Jul 16, 2009
who="Wilberhum"
A slave has equal rights under Sharia law.
How freeking stupid do you think we are?
Or are you so freeking stupid you don't know.
A Muslim can not take a Muslim as a slave, therefore there are no Muslim slaves.
Rights under Sharia law are determined by your religion and gender. Equality does not exist.
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Sorry, I think YOU who need to educate . Have you heard of Al-Mamaleek, Mamlouk an other Arabic word for slaves, they were white slaves brought mainly from Turkey during the rule of Al-Ayoubeen. Then , these slaves, had the power to rule the Muslim world establishing and they called their kingdom Al-Mmaleek. What about Kafour Al-Akhshidi, he was a black slave from Ethiopia, who then ruled Egypt and established his kingdom ''Al Akhsheidiah'' What rights can a slave , or who was born slave, have more than ruling the country with its free people , in time slavery was known and recognized not like now???!!

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#14 Jul 16, 2009
It isn't a question of white or black.
Please provied a link that showes that a Muslim can be taken as a slave.

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#15 Jul 16, 2009
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/islam...
Who can be enslaved
Under Islamic law people can only be legally enslaved in two circumstances:

as the result of being defeated in a war that was legal according to sharia
if they are born as the child of two slave parents
Other legal systems of the time allowed people to be enslaved in a far wider range of circumstances.

The sharia limits were often either ignored or evaded, and many instances of slave trading by Muslims were in fact illegal, but tolerated.

The following groups of people cannot be made slaves:

Free Muslims, but note that:
Slaves who convert to Islam are not automatically freed
Children born to legally enslaved Muslims are also slaves
Dhimmis
Scent of Memories

Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

#16 Jul 16, 2009
Correction: establishing their kingdom.

I think they 're known in the western world . One of their greatest Sultans was ''Al-Daher Baibars'' who fought Crusaders and defeated them in Al-Mansourah Battle. And also defeated Mongols in Ein Djalout''Spring of Galoath '' Battle.
Scent of Memories

Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

#17 Jul 16, 2009
who="Wilberhum"It isn't a question of white or black.
Please provied a link that showes that a Muslim can be taken as a slave.
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Your question is ot clear ?! Yes , there were slaves Muslims and Muslims were ordered to treat them well as our prophet peace be upon him taught us that they are our brothers and sisters in religion . we should feed them the same food we eat and they should wear as we wear.But if you mean someone who isn't born slave . Is that your question ?!
Scent of Memories

Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

#18 Jul 16, 2009
Correction: slave Muslims .
Prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him, used to say about Abu Baker'' Abu Baker is our master and he freed, from slavery, our Master, he means Bilal here,''

“The Defiant Dhimmi”

Since: Apr 08

Scholar of the Obvious

#19 Jul 16, 2009
Scent of Memories wrote:
who="Wilberhum"It isn't a question of white or black.
Please provied a link that showes that a Muslim can be taken as a slave.
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Your question is ot clear ?! Yes , there were slaves Muslims and Muslims were ordered to treat them well as our prophet peace be upon him taught us that they are our brothers and sisters in religion . we should feed them the same food we eat and they should wear as we wear.But if you mean someone who isn't born slave . Is that your question ?!
By defination a slave is abused. And your founder was a slaver.

No matter how much sugar you want on a pile of shit, it still isn't candy.
Prince Bongo

London, UK

#20 Jul 16, 2009
Wilberhum wrote:
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By defination a slave is abused. And your founder was a slaver.
No matter how much sugar you want on a pile of shit, it still isn't candy.
It is the sacred duty of indian born immigrant willyupbum the child molester hindu fanatic to attack Islam/Muslims wherever he finds them AND fail!!!!

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