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El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#199961 Jan 26, 2014
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Mostly those priests and pastors, who really read and study the Christian Bible well, leave Christianity.
These days, it is happening quite frequently.
http://www.newageislam.com/muslims-and-islamo...

Excerpt:

By Sultan Shahin, Editor, New Age Islam

In the following article translated from Urdu by Arman Neyazi of New Age Islam, the author Shakeel Rasheed laments the large-scale conversion of Muslims to Christianity. 20, 000 Muslims already have, though many seem to retain their Muslim names. He blames Christian evangelists for this and, like Muslims world over, accuses them of making use of immoral techniques, taking advantage of problems facing Muslims to covert them to Christianity. He doesn’t seem to be aware of the fact that Muslims leaving Islam in large numbers, not necessarily converting to Christianity, but becoming just ex-Muslims, is a worldwide trend.

Talking about the trend in Africa a prominent Islamic scholar of Libya Sheikh Ahmad Al Qataani told Al-Jazeera recently:“Islam used to represent, as you previously mentioned, Africa’s main religion and there were 30 African languages that used to be written in Arabic script. The number of Muslims in Africa has diminished to 316 million, half of whom are Arabs in North Africa. So in the section of Africa that we are talking about, the non-Arab section, the number of Muslims does not exceed 150 million people.”

The Libyan Sheikh goes on:“When we realize that the entire population of Africa is one billion people, we see that the number of Muslims has diminished greatly from what it was in the beginning of the last century. On the other hand, the number of Catholics has increased from one million in 1902 to 329 million 882 thousand (329,882,000). Let us round off that number to 330 million in the year 2000.… There are now 1.5 million churches whose congregations account for 46 million people. In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Every day, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Ever year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#199962 Jan 26, 2014
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
No, stupid!
You are always off-topic and offer nothing but a silly and absurd Tu Quoque.
Your problem is that you cannot stand any criticism of Christianity and her darkest and filthiest history and this shows you are a closet Christian.
That Christianity has the darkest and the filthiest history, is a fact which no one and not even an Italian can deny!
Don't be more stupid and ignorant than usual. Christianity is guilty of many things, but the title of the filthiest religion in the world is undoubtfully only for Islam.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#199963 Jan 26, 2014
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't be more stupid and ignorant than usual. Christianity is guilty of many things, but the title of the filthiest religion in the world is undoubtfully only for Islam.
Based on the actual records, the most basic difference between Christianity and Islam is that Jesus prayed for his enemies from the cross, while Mohammad had many of his enemies murdered.

In the centuries that have passed since then, Christians have done many horrific things to their enemies, but they could never cite Jesus' merciful example as a justification. Muslims, on the other hand, have Mohammad's PERFECT savagery to emulate. Indeed, they are ordered IN THE QUR'AN to wage "jihad" with everyone on earth who doesn't submit to Mohammad/Allah.
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#199964 Jan 26, 2014
bmz wrote:
Good night from my side, all.
Brother bmz, hope you slept well, but wasn't it through allah's will that I became an apostate?
Truth Seeker

New Delhi, India

#199965 Jan 26, 2014
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
I have already told TS that Krishna did not exist and that Jesus did. Do you know where and when Krishna was born in India?
Muhammad died a better death than the death Jesus died. Do you know how Jesus died?
Do you ever think before hitting the keyboard? LMAO!
From this man's apparent Authoritative statement, it appears that he is an expert on "Krishna". It seems, this fool has alreday established that "Krishna" did not exist and "TS" and rest of the millions of those who live their lives for "Krishna"(God Almighty) was just waiting for the Messianic revelation from 'BMZ" (The Great <Fool??>).

This proves, how much True God "Krishna" was. This man of demonic tendency, does not only refuse to accept him as GOD, but also refuses to accept his very appearance on earth. Look, how this proves "Krishna"'s ability to know future as well. Please refer following verse -

na mam duskrtino mudhah
prapadyante naradhamah
mayayapahrta-jnana
asuram bhavam asritah (Gita 7:15)

Meaning: Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, lowest among mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who partake of the atheistic nature of demons, do not surrender unto Me.

Also, look at "Krishna's" revelation about, those who can not understand, how God Almighty can descend in Human Form. These demonic men do not understand, that it humans that have inherited God's form due to his mercy on Mankind and not vice versa. Please refer below -

avajananti mam mudha
manusim tanum asritam
param bhavam ajananto
mama bhuta-mahesvaram (Gita 9:11)

Meaning: Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My transcendental nature and My supreme dominion over all that be.
Truth Seeker

New Delhi, India

#199967 Jan 26, 2014
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you are mad if you say Vedas are pointing towards KRISHNA as God....
You should seek professional advise from a mental specialist.
You are free to believe in any thing, but do not try to justify it by falsehood.
Dear MUQ,

I salute your over confident way of lying, unless of course, you are also an ignorant fool like your other friend. All vedas, equivocally point towards a one and only Supreme Personality of Godhead "Krishna" (Or, Visnu). Vedic scholars over many centuries had repeated arguments on this subject matter and it was established without any doubt that, "Krishna" is the Supreme Lord. Just to show how wrong you are I am quoting a few verse from Vedas with reference -

"Savo deve eko Narayana na dwitiyacha kaschit"

There is only one God Narayana and no second.

[Yajur Veda]

As we know, "Narayana" is another name of "Krishna". The God Almighty have 108 names in total.

Rig Veda 7.40.5: Rudra (Shiva or, Destroyer) gets his strength by propitiating Vishnu(Or, Krishna).
Rig Veda 7.99.1-4: Vishnu (Or, Krishna) is said to create Suurya (Sun) and Agni(Fire).
Rig Veda 10.90.13: States that Brahman (here addressed as The Purusha or, Supreme Person) created Suurya(Sun), Agni(Fire), Vaayu(Air), and Chandra(Moon)
Rig Veda 10.121.2: States that He (here addressed as Hiranyagarbha) is the "Giver of vital breath, of power and vigour, he whose commandments all the demi-gods acknowledge."
Rig Veda 10.190.3: States that Brahman (here addressed as Dhaatar) created Suurya(Sun) and Chandra(Moon)

So, the above verses conclusively shows that As per Rig Veda, Visnu or, Krishna is the Supreme God Almighty.

I addition, also see the follwoing verse from Brahma Samhita (Verse 5.1)

isvara paramah krishna sac-cid-ananda vigrahah
anadir adir govindah sarva karana karanam (Brhama Samhita 5.1)

Meaning: Lord Krishna is the supreme absolute controller, whose form comprises immortality, omniscience, and bliss. He is without beginning, the origin of all, the cause of all causes and the source of the Vedas.

And, MUQ, which expert help you are talking about?? Adi Sankaracharyya and Ramanujacharya are the gretaest of the experts on Vedic Scriputres. Adi Sankara, although was the chief propagator of Impersonalist Philosophy, could not deny the fact that "Krisha" is the Para Brahman (or, Supreme Brahman or, Ishvara). There is no doubt about this fact that, as per Vedas, "Krisha" is the God Almighty.

I do not need any expert or, Doctor. Rather it seems all your posts need to be sanctified through an online lie detection machine.
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#199968 Jan 26, 2014
Truth Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>

Dear MUQ,


As we know, "Narayana" is another name of "Krishna". The God Almighty have 108 names in total.
Dear TS

This is a master piece of lying!! Narayana is another name of Krishna!!

Very good indeed!!

This is called "manufacturing god"!!

Why not Indra is another name for Krishna? Just for the sake of argument!!
Truth Seeker

New Delhi, India

#199969 Jan 27, 2014
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear TS
This is a master piece of lying!! Narayana is another name of Krishna!!
Very good indeed!!
This is called "manufacturing god"!!
Why not Indra is another name for Krishna? Just for the sake of argument!!
You are really Ignorant ....You really thought, I am saying this!!!!!.... Hell no!!!!...I am only repeating the words of thousands of most acclaimed Vedic Scholars who have already said the same thing thousands of year back. Adir Sankaracharya was the greatest authority on Vedas and although he started the "Impersonalist Movement", he also came to the conclusion that Para Brhaman ( or, Supreme Brhaman) is none other than "Krishna" or, Visnu or, Narayana ..... You can't fool others by this type of lies, every one knows that these are names of same entity. Please see what Sankaracharya wrote about 'Krishna" -

haje vrajaika mandanam, samastha papa khandanam,
Swabhaktha chitha ranjanam, sadaiva nanda nandanam,
Supincha gucha masthakam, sunada venu hasthakam,
Ananga raga sagaram, Namami Krishna sagaram. 1(Sankaracharya's Krishna Bhajanam)

Meaning :I pray Him, who is the ornament to the land of Vraja,
Who cuts off entire sins,
Who pleases the mind of his devotees,
And who is the godly son of Nanda Gopa.
Salutations to the sea like Lord Krishna,
Who decorates his head with peacock feathers,
Who has the sweet sounding flute in his hand,
And who is the music of the ocean of love.

Now, as we all know, Adi Sankaracharya was the pre-ponent of Non Dualism and he strictly believed in One God Only And he is saluting to "Krishna" ...

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#199970 Jan 27, 2014
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>
http://www.newageislam.com/muslims-and-islamo...
Excerpt:
By Sultan Shahin, Editor, New Age Islam
In the following article translated from Urdu by Arman Neyazi of New Age Islam, the author Shakeel Rasheed laments the large-scale conversion of Muslims to Christianity. 20, 000 Muslims already have, though many seem to retain their Muslim names. He blames Christian evangelists for this and, like Muslims world over, accuses them of making use of immoral techniques, taking advantage of problems facing Muslims to covert them to Christianity. He doesn’t seem to be aware of the fact that Muslims leaving Islam in large numbers, not necessarily converting to Christianity, but becoming just ex-Muslims, is a worldwide trend.
Talking about the trend in Africa a prominent Islamic scholar of Libya Sheikh Ahmad Al Qataani told Al-Jazeera recently:“Islam used to represent, as you previously mentioned, Africa’s main religion and there were 30 African languages that used to be written in Arabic script. The number of Muslims in Africa has diminished to 316 million, half of whom are Arabs in North Africa. So in the section of Africa that we are talking about, the non-Arab section, the number of Muslims does not exceed 150 million people.”
The Libyan Sheikh goes on:“When we realize that the entire population of Africa is one billion people, we see that the number of Muslims has diminished greatly from what it was in the beginning of the last century. On the other hand, the number of Catholics has increased from one million in 1902 to 329 million 882 thousand (329,882,000). Let us round off that number to 330 million in the year 2000.… There are now 1.5 million churches whose congregations account for 46 million people. In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Every day, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Ever year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity.”
That is an off-topic Tu Quoque. By the way, the above is a piece of misinformation and bull shit, Buford. I haven't heard the names of those fools before.

My point:

Mostly those priests and pastors, who really read and study the Christian Bible well, leave Christianity.

These days, it is happening quite frequently.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#199971 Jan 27, 2014
Truth Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
From this man's apparent Authoritative statement, it appears that he is an expert on "Krishna". It seems, this fool has alreday established that "Krishna" did not exist and "TS" and rest of the millions of those who live their lives for "Krishna"(God Almighty) was just waiting for the Messianic revelation from 'BMZ" (The Great <Fool??>).
This proves, how much True God "Krishna" was. This man of demonic tendency, does not only refuse to accept him as GOD, but also refuses to accept his very appearance on earth. Look, how this proves "Krishna"'s ability to know future as well. Please refer following verse -
na mam duskrtino mudhah
prapadyante naradhamah
mayayapahrta-jnana
asuram bhavam asritah (Gita 7:15)
Meaning: Those miscreants who are grossly foolish, lowest among mankind, whose knowledge is stolen by illusion, and who partake of the atheistic nature of demons, do not surrender unto Me.
Also, look at "Krishna's" revelation about, those who can not understand, how God Almighty can descend in Human Form. These demonic men do not understand, that it humans that have inherited God's form due to his mercy on Mankind and not vice versa. Please refer below -
avajananti mam mudha
manusim tanum asritam
param bhavam ajananto
mama bhuta-mahesvaram (Gita 9:11)
Meaning: Fools deride Me when I descend in the human form. They do not know My transcendental nature and My supreme dominion over all that be.
Please do not quote me Krishna bull shit. My point is that Krishna did not exist and that God never came down to earth in any form. Period.

Peddle this Krishna bull shit else where. That Krishna was the eighth incarnation of Vishnu is already enough bullshit. Avatars mean nothing to me, man.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#199972 Jan 27, 2014
Mahmood wrote:
Brother bmz, hope you slept well, but wasn't it through allah's will that I became an apostate?
Hello, brother Mahmood

Salaams and we have done this quite some time ago.

No, bro, it was not Allah's will.

Short and sweet, Allah knew that you were never a true believer, so Allah let you go astray.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#199973 Jan 27, 2014
El Cid wrote:
<quoted text>The text of Qur'an 10:100 does not support your interpretation.
http://quran.com/10/100
And it is not for a soul to believe except by permission of Allah , and He will place defilement upon those who will not use reason.
Do you see the word PERMISSION in the above passage?
Fools go by the English words in a translation.

I already made it simple for you, when I wrote:

"It simply means that Allah knows that you will never believe, so Allah will not guide you."

In addition to above, since you insist, let me put this way through the translation quoted by you:

Since you do not reason, understand and remain spiritually blind, Allah will not allow you to become a believer and Allah will place defilement upon you.

It is quite obvious and you can see that Allah has already placed defilement upon you. lol!

Another way of understanding is that if you have the slightest inclination towards Allah, then Allah will guide you and you will give up the alleged Son of God and the alleged Ghost.

Hope this helped a lot!

Bonus point: Does spiritual blindness, according to Jesus and the Bible ring a loud bell?

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#199974 Jan 27, 2014
Truth Seeker wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear MUQ,
I salute your over confident way of lying, unless of course, you are also an ignorant fool like your other friend. All vedas, equivocally point towards a one and only Supreme Personality of Godhead "Krishna" (Or, Visnu). Vedic scholars over many centuries had repeated arguments on this subject matter and it was established without any doubt that, "Krishna" is the Supreme Lord. Just to show how wrong you are I am quoting a few verse from Vedas with reference -
"Savo deve eko Narayana na dwitiyacha kaschit"
There is only one God Narayana and no second.
[Yajur Veda]
As we know, "Narayana" is another name of "Krishna". The God Almighty have 108 names in total.
Rig Veda 7.40.5: Rudra (Shiva or, Destroyer) gets his strength by propitiating Vishnu(Or, Krishna).
Rig Veda 7.99.1-4: Vishnu (Or, Krishna) is said to create Suurya (Sun) and Agni(Fire).
Rig Veda 10.90.13: States that Brahman (here addressed as The Purusha or, Supreme Person) created Suurya(Sun), Agni(Fire), Vaayu(Air), and Chandra(Moon)
Rig Veda 10.121.2: States that He (here addressed as Hiranyagarbha) is the "Giver of vital breath, of power and vigour, he whose commandments all the demi-gods acknowledge."
Rig Veda 10.190.3: States that Brahman (here addressed as Dhaatar) created Suurya(Sun) and Chandra(Moon)
So, the above verses conclusively shows that As per Rig Veda, Visnu or, Krishna is the Supreme God Almighty.
I addition, also see the follwoing verse from Brahma Samhita (Verse 5.1)
isvara paramah krishna sac-cid-ananda vigrahah
anadir adir govindah sarva karana karanam (Brhama Samhita 5.1)

Meaning: Lord Krishna is the supreme absolute controller, whose form comprises immortality, omniscience, and bliss. He is without beginning, the origin of all, the cause of all causes and the source of the Vedas.

And, MUQ, which expert help you are talking about?? Adi Sankaracharyya and Ramanujacharya are the gretaest of the experts on Vedic Scriputres. Adi Sankara, although was the chief propagator of Impersonalist Philosophy, could not deny the fact that "Krisha" is the Para Brahman (or, Supreme Brahman or, Ishvara). There is no doubt about this fact that, as per Vedas, "Krisha" is the God Almighty.

I do not need any expert or, Doctor. Rather it seems all your posts need to be sanctified through an online lie detection machine.
Stop lying, please! Also, no more hocus pocus, please!

There is no God Almighty in Hinduism. That Krishna is the God Almighty is absurd and a lie!

Hinduism has only a Trinity of Brahma for creation, Vishnu for preservation and Shiva for destruction.

You have a god, whose job is to destroy? That is hilarious!

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#199975 Jan 27, 2014
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't be more stupid and ignorant than usual. Christianity is guilty of many things, but the title of the filthiest religion in the world is undoubtfully only for Islam.
Please read my post again, fool!

"No, stupid!

You are always off-topic and offer nothing but a silly and absurd Tu Quoque.

Your problem is that you cannot stand any criticism of Christianity and her darkest and filthiest history and this shows you are a closet Christian.

That Christianity has the darkest and the filthiest history, is a fact which no one and not even an Italian can deny!"

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#199976 Jan 27, 2014
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Fools go by the English words in a translation.
I already made it simple for you, when I wrote:
"It simply means that Allah knows that you will never believe, so Allah will not guide you."
In addition to above, since you insist, let me put this way through the translation quoted by you:
Since you do not reason, understand and remain spiritually blind, Allah will not allow you to become a believer and Allah will place defilement upon you.
It is quite obvious and you can see that Allah has already placed defilement upon you. lol!
Another way of understanding is that if you have the slightest inclination towards Allah, then Allah will guide you and you will give up the alleged Son of God and the alleged Ghost.
Hope this helped a lot!
Bonus point: Does spiritual blindness, according to Jesus and the Bible ring a loud bell?
Thanks for your personal interpretation of that quranic verse, we will keep in mind, but we prefer to believe to what Quran says rather to what a foolish believer invents. After all, it's very understandable if we give more credit to Allah's words rather than yours. I think you can understand us.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#199977 Jan 27, 2014
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Please read my post again, fool!
"No, stupid!
You are always off-topic and offer nothing but a silly and absurd Tu Quoque.
Your problem is that you cannot stand any criticism of Christianity and her darkest and filthiest history and this shows you are a closet Christian.
That Christianity has the darkest and the filthiest history, is a fact which no one and not even an Italian can deny!"
Actually I said that Christianity has made very bad things, so I don't how and why I cannot stand any criticism of Christianity. Are you capable of reading and understanding? Two things at the same time must be real hard for your tiny brain I guess.

Islam has the filthiest history in the world. Enough looking at the world and see that people in Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia, and North America are having problems with Muslims, because many of you try to kill innocent people by citing Islam (Quran, Hadiths etc).
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#199978 Jan 27, 2014
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
That is an off-topic Tu Quoque. By the way, the above is a piece of misinformation and bull shit, Buford. I haven't heard the names of those fools before.
My point:
Mostly those priests and pastors, who really read and study the Christian Bible well, leave Christianity.
These days, it is happening quite frequently.
Have you proven anything? It's impossible to say, since you post NO SOURCES.
El Cid

Saint Albans, WV

#199979 Jan 27, 2014
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Fools go by the English words in a translation.
I already made it simple for you, when I wrote:
"It simply means that Allah knows that you will never believe, so Allah will not guide you."
Your interpretation is not supported by the text. of Qur'an 10:100. Provide your AUTHORITATIVE translation.
Truth Seeker

New Delhi, India

#199980 Jan 27, 2014
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Stop lying, please! Also, no more hocus pocus, please!
There is no God Almighty in Hinduism. That Krishna is the God Almighty is absurd and a lie!
Hinduism has only a Trinity of Brahma for creation, Vishnu for preservation and Shiva for destruction.
You have a god, whose job is to destroy? That is hilarious!
BMZ,

Didn't any one told you yet, that you are the most hilarious poster in this thread??? I am really surprised !!!!!!

So, you think, it is some one else instead of God who will be involved in dissolution of creation, do you???? Is it going to be you then!!!!!

You abominably ignorant humanoid, don't you understand that creation, maintenance and dissolution are all the Job of One and only God Almighty???

OK, as per you there is no God in Hinduism, "krishna" is not God, yet he gave the philosophies in "Gita" that no other scripture in the world can match, Yet each and every teachings of "Gita" are as eternal as ever. Then, one has to agree that a human had more philosophical idea than God Almighty. But this is absurd and Impossible.

Hence, if you do not accept other scriptural evidence, "Gita" itself is a proof that only a personality, who is timeless, eternal and who knows past, present and future could have produced that scripture. I do not know any other personality than "GOD" to have those attributes and hence, to me and many hundreds of millions like me, "Krishna" is God Almighty.

Hence, I refuse to accept your idea and will continue my work, you may choose not to answer or, read those posts. Any way as I have stated, as per God's prophecy, you are any way not going to accept him as God and you have just proved him right once again. The more you reply rejecting his deity, the more my faith and knowledge towards the truth will get reinforced.

Thanks & All the best with your non existent mythical God...
MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#199981 Jan 27, 2014
True Guidance and Light series (5)

The Promised Prophet of the Bible By: Munqidh Bin Mahmoud Assaqqar, PhD. Part-22

CH-7. ISHMAEL'S BLESSED NATION (Contd.)



According to this condition, the blessing and covenant were granted to the sons of Levi

"so shall you know that I have sent this command to you, that my covenant with Levi may stand, says the LORD of hosts. My covenant with him was one of life of and peace, and I gave them to him. It was a covenant of fear, and he feared me. He stood in awe of my name. True instruction was in his mouth, and no wrong was found on his lips. He walked with me in peace and uprightness, and he turned many from iniquity. For the lips a priest should guard knowledge, and people should seek instruction from his mouth, for he is the messenger of the
LORD of hosts." (Malachi: 2/4-7).

The blessing of God is for the righteous, and his curse is the unbelievers’ share. God said to Moses:

"See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse. The blessing, if you obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you today. And the curse, if you do not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside from the way that I commanding you today. To go after other gods that you have not known. " (Deuteronomy: 11/26-28).

Again, God said to Moses,

"you shall therefore be careful to do the commandments and the statutes and the rules that I command you today. And because you listen to these rules and keep and do them, the LORD your God will keep with you the covenant and the steadfast love that he swore to your fathers :" (Deuteronomy: 7/11-13),

(see also Deuteronomy: 28/1-68). As such, the blessing of God is conditional on obeying Him and following His religion. When the children of Israel drifted away from it, God showered them with curses and losses. Indeed, the blessing on Abraham started with his second son Isaac, but that does not mean that Ishmael had no share.

"But I will establish my covenant with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear to you at this time next year." (Genesis: 17/21).

The Torah mentions that after Sarah weaned Isaac, Hagar immigrated with her son.

"And God heard the voice of the boy; and the angel of God called to Hagar from heaven and said to her,“What troubles you, Hagar? Fear not, for God has heard the voice of the boy where he is. Up, lift up the boy, and hold him fast with your hand, for I will make him into a great nation. Then God opened her eyes, and she saw a well of water. And she went and filled the skin with water and gave the boy a drink. And God was with the boy, and he grew up. He lived in the wilderness and became an expert with the bow. he lived in the wilderness of Paran, and his mother took a wife for him from the land of Egypt." (Genesis: 21/17-21).


The Torah ignores Ishmael's privilege in the blessed water well (Zamzam) in Makkah, and indicates that the immigration story happened in Bir sabaa south of Palestine, where it calls it "Paran Wilderness" 1.(The Holy Bible has many geographical errors. These errors lid Dr. Sabry Jawhara, as he summarized the opinion of the church, to say: "God allowed the person (the scripture writer) to put in all of his feelings, experiences, emotions and his own believes in the text as long as that won't change the moral and religious meaning of the scripture.

(Contd.)

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