Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 254067 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164048 Feb 17, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
<quoted text>
Quran is superior to Science? LOL
Quran is a mediocre book for brainwashed people who lack of spirit of criticism.
Seven earths? The Earth is the name of our planet. Out of it there are zillion of planets, let alone seven. Quran made things up.
As for seven heavens the Quran made a mistake or maybe the translators since heaven doesnt mean sky but paradise that ancient people thought it was over the sky. So if by heaven is meant paradise, a place where good people are supposed to go to orgy with houris, well that's a tale. If by heaven you mean sky, and you are saying they are seven, then it's up to you to prove the existence of these seven skies, one over the other, not me.
By the way, the seven heavens/skies thing was a popular hearsay among Middle easterns and Indian people.
let's ask colonic something..
What is he proficient in...certainly not English..definitely not science...Ah...bullshit!!
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#164049 Feb 17, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello BUFORD..I suppose I won't call you non-gentile bu(utteredbuttturdlick)ford for the time being as you did stand up to some non-gentile responses eventhough you may be wrong!
I am reminding the poor women not to drool over a naked man oozing off his pole.
Conveniently your god is not a woman!!!...
Otherwise men will be drooling over naked pagan pole dancing women!
Let's get back to te serious topic...
Allah is the ONLY True God.
"Christian" god of abraham is certainly not the god of abraham as worshipped by Jews. They keep telling you this!
A naked man on a puny planet who could not even save himself is NOT God.
Allah Is GOD.
Paul WV..posts his own infantile and idiotic views here.
How can any person claim credibility if he/she worships a naked pagan on a pole beleiving him to be a Jewish man?
Sadly, "Christians" don't worship God ..they worship Satan because Jesus did NOT tell ANYBODY that he was God or to worship him as if he were God ...Jesus definitely did NOT claim divinity.
It appears to me that Islam defines Allah mostly by what "the ONLY true God" either CAN'T or WOULD NEVER do, and this mainly in opposition to what Christianity teaches about substitutionary atonement, which is precisely the reason why Jesus -God in human form- died on the cross. See: http://www.gotquestions.org/substitutionary-a...

1 John 2:18-19 "Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have arisen; from this we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us."

1 John 2:22-23 "Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also."

1 John 4:2-3 "By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world."

2 John 1:7 "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist."
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#164050 Feb 17, 2013
Buford wrote:
OTOH, Satan might be made out of water that burns. Over here we call that "firewater."
No.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164051 Feb 17, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>It appears to me that Islam defines Allah mostly by what "the ONLY true God" either CAN'T or WOULD NEVER do, and this mainly in opposition to what Christianity teaches about substitutionary atonement, which is precisely the reason why Jesus -God in human form- died on the cross. See: http://www.gotquestions.org/substitutionary-a...
1 John 2:18-19 "Children, it is the last hour; and just as you heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have arisen; from this we know that it is the last hour. They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, in order that it might be shown that they all are not of us."
1 John 2:22-23 "Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also."
1 John 4:2-3 "By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world."
2 John 1:7 "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist."
I would have given you a bit more credit..but hey!
1. Jesus NEVER claimed divinity. There is NOT a single direct claim from Jesus that he was indeed God in human form who has come as his own son to die for the sins of jews and gentiles on a pagan cross and through belief in his sacrifice and through him one can get eternal life!
2. There is not a single person alive to be seen who has been blessed with eternal life! If you are suggesting that eternal life becomes an issue after death, then there is absolutely no proof. The claim about his sacrifice and eternal life will naturally be meaningless and redundant.
3. Unless you admit that "John" was actually written by some twisted idiots who made up things as they went along, you will never climb off this atonement nonsense.
4. Why do you ignore claims by Jesus the Jew who had nothing to do with Gentiles. Jesus the Jew claimed he was sent only for the Jews.
5. By turning Jesus the Jew into Christ the gentile ghost is pretty pathetic.
6. There is no need for ever merciful most forgiving god to orchestrate a vile pagan hujman sacrifice further insulting himself by allowing mad pagans to stick naked men up poles playing cannibalistic rituals of blood drinking and flesh eating. These are indeed Satanic.
7. Its your call...keep worshipping that poor Jewish man and condemn him to hell by proving Jewish Talmud claim that he was indeed a seducer.
Or...worship God and simply love Jesus as a messenger who came ot educate the Jews.

8. Your choice buford.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#164052 Feb 17, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
If you are suggesting that eternal life becomes an issue after death, then there is absolutely no proof.
You are the measure of absolute proof.

Who knew?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#164053 Feb 17, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
We have answered that many times.
Allah is the LORD Almighty God.
As for you, you have not read Qur'aan. I can confirm that easily because anyone, who has read Qur'aan, will not make silly and foolish statements like you.
Muslim Allah is the LORD Almighty pagan
God.
Believing Your Allah is a monotheistic god, does not change the fact it is a pagan god.

Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164054 Feb 17, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the measure of absolute proof.
Who knew?
When you have no substance of worth...you resort to the usual personal attacks...prompting others to retaliate!
Sadly, that seems your only raison d'être.

If you are suggesting that eternal life becomes an issue after death, then there is absolutely no proof.
Eternal life has nothing to do with a pagan human sacrifice!!!

I repeat...
1. Jesus NEVER claimed divinity. There is NOT a single direct claim from Jesus that he was indeed God in human form who has come as his own son to die for the sins of Jews and gentiles on a pagan cross and through belief in his sacrifice and through him one can get eternal life!
2. There is not a single person alive to be seen who has been blessed with eternal life! If you are suggesting that eternal life becomes an issue after death, then there is absolutely no proof. The claim about his sacrifice and eternal life will naturally be meaningless and redundant.
3. Unless you admit that "John" was actually written by some twisted idiots who made up things as they went along, you will never climb off this atonement nonsense.
4. Why do you ignore claims by Jesus the Jew who had nothing to do with Gentiles? Jesus the Jew claimed he was sent only for the Jews.
5. By turning Jesus the Jew into Christ the gentile ghost is pretty pathetic.
6. There is no need for ever merciful most forgiving god to orchestrate a vile pagan human sacrifice further insulting himself by allowing mad pagans to stick naked men up poles playing cannibalistic rituals of blood drinking and flesh eating. These are indeed satanic.
7. Its your call...keep worshipping that poor Jewish man and condemn him to hell by proving Jewish Talmud claim that he was indeed a seducer.
Or...worship God and simply love Jesus as a messenger who came to educate the Jews.

8. Your choice Buford.

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#164055 Feb 17, 2013
who="Alex123 aka WM"]<quoted text>
You don't ne[QUOTEed you tube for that.
Jesus was a JEWISH messenger sent to JEWS as THEIR Messiah (nobody elses) but they refused to accept him tried to kill him but God helped Jesus escape and hence probably the second coming?
Jesus did NOT come for Gentiles because he refused to deal with them and called them DOGS and PIGS.
If you love Jesus STOP worshipping him.
He will be at risk of being in hot excrement and semen as claimed in Talmud if you continue to worship Jesus instead of God.
If you worship Jesus you prove to them that Jesus was indeed a seducer who takes worship away from God.
Now that is the task of Satan.
Those who truly love Jesus must praise him and worship GOD who created Jesus.
Period.[/QUOTE]I accept the fact that you are posting your opinions of Jesus from your pagan point of view.

But your opinion does not change the factual teachings that God revealed in the Holy Bible that God sent Jesus into the world as being the Savior of the world.

Galatians 3:16-29

King James Version (KJV)


16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

John 3:16
New International Version (NIV)
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Your pagan opinion Alex is not Scriptural, and does not represent the teaching of God in Gods Holy Bible.
brahmin aryavata

United States

#164056 Feb 17, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>
http://quran.com/96
96:1-2
Sahih International
Recite in the name of your Lord who created -
Created man from a clinging substance.
__________
Hmmm...water as a "clinging substance," but clinging to what, exactly?
clinging substance=sperms which starts the production of humans
70% of building block in every life is water
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#164057 Feb 17, 2013
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
When you have no substance of worth...you resort to the usual personal attacks...prompting others to retaliate!
Sadly, that seems your only raison d'être.
If you are suggesting that eternal life becomes an issue after death, then there is absolutely no proof.
Eternal life has nothing to do with a pagan human sacrifice!!!
I repeat...
1. Jesus NEVER claimed divinity. There is NOT a single direct claim from Jesus that he was indeed God in human form who has come as his own son to die for the sins of Jews and gentiles on a pagan cross and through belief in his sacrifice and through him one can get eternal life!
2. There is not a single person alive to be seen who has been blessed with eternal life! If you are suggesting that eternal life becomes an issue after death, then there is absolutely no proof. The claim about his sacrifice and eternal life will naturally be meaningless and redundant.
3. Unless you admit that "John" was actually written by some twisted idiots who made up things as they went along, you will never climb off this atonement nonsense.
4. Why do you ignore claims by Jesus the Jew who had nothing to do with Gentiles? Jesus the Jew claimed he was sent only for the Jews.
5. By turning Jesus the Jew into Christ the gentile ghost is pretty pathetic.
6. There is no need for ever merciful most forgiving god to orchestrate a vile pagan human sacrifice further insulting himself by allowing mad pagans to stick naked men up poles playing cannibalistic rituals of blood drinking and flesh eating. These are indeed satanic.
7. Its your call...keep worshipping that poor Jewish man and condemn him to hell by proving Jewish Talmud claim that he was indeed a seducer.
Or...worship God and simply love Jesus as a messenger who came to educate the Jews.
8. Your choice Buford.
Arrogant one,
You are the one who presumes to know anything at all about life "after death" with absolute certainty, and then you insult me for calling you on it. If nothing else, this is a reliable measure of your arrogance.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#164058 Feb 17, 2013
brahmin aryavata wrote:
<quoted text>
clinging substance=sperms which starts the production of humans
70% of building block in every life is water
According to the records, Adam wasn't made out of "sperms."
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164059 Feb 17, 2013
Shamma wrote:
who="Alex123 aka WM"]<quoted text>
You don't ne<quoted text>I accept the fact that you are posting your opinions of Jesus from your pagan point of view.
But your opinion does not change the factual teachings that God revealed in the Holy Bible that God sent Jesus into the world as being the Savior of the world.
Galatians 3:16-29
King James Version (KJV)
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
John 3:16
New International Version (NIV)
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Your pagan opinion Alex is not Scriptural, and does not represent the teaching of God in Gods Holy Bible.
Dear dear Sham.....
We are NOT talking here about God of Abraham as worshipped by Jews.
You are making an EXTRAORDINARY claim that a Jewish man is your mangod.
Therfore, the onus is on you to convince others with your EXTRAORDINARY proof to your EXTRAORDINARY pagan claim.

Jesus "disappeared" around 33AD
Galatians...circa 50AD if that. No originals to be seen.
John Circa 100Ad if that. No originals to be seen.

Jesus NEVER saw a single word from your "god"'s books written by men!!

You quote from these books that have never been see or proof read by Jesus.

Unless Jesus himself makes CLEAR statement that he is God in human form who came as his own son to die for the sins of gentiles as well as Jews (while he made DIRECT claim that he came only for the Jews!) on a roman pagan cross...and by accepting his sacrifice and by believing in him one can have eternal life!!! THERE IS NO SUCH CLAIM FROM JESUS.

So You have a choice...keep worshipping that poor Jewish man as your god and condemn him to hell in hot excrement and semen as claimed in Talmud....OR...
Simple love and respect him as God's messenger to the Jews and worship only the TRUE GOD who is ALLAH.
Your call..........
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#164060 Feb 17, 2013
Shamma wrote:
who="Alex123 aka WM"]<quoted text>
You don't ne<quoted text>I accept the fact that you are posting your opinions of Jesus from your pagan point of view.
But your opinion does not change the factual teachings that God revealed in the Holy Bible that God sent Jesus into the world as being the Savior of the world.
Galatians 3:16-29
King James Version (KJV)
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
John 3:16
New International Version (NIV)
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Your pagan opinion Alex is not Scriptural, and does not represent the teaching of God in Gods Holy Bible.
Not a word from Jesus in there.

John 3:16 should read: "For God so hated the world that he gave his one and only Son to be killed for no reason".
wannabe scientist

United States

#164061 Feb 17, 2013
Adam was not created from sperms accepted but every single human after adam and hawwa were made from sperm which made humans which constitutes water+space+clay which quran and science says perfectly
wannabe scientist

United States

#164062 Feb 17, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>According to the records, Adam wasn't made out of "sperms."
Adam was not created
from sperms accepted but
every single human after
adam and hawwa were
made from sperm which
made humans which
constitutes water+space
+clay which quran and
science says perfectly
says
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164063 Feb 17, 2013
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Arrogant one,
You are the one who presumes to know anything at all about life "after death" with absolute certainty, and then you insult me for calling you on it. If nothing else, this is a reliable measure of your arrogance.
You are the one who say only your mangod will save you!
We believe that GOD has ALWAYS been saving us...before...during and after your mangods time!!!

There is no arrogance...if you believe that you have eternal life only through your mangod..which means all others are in sht...then produce the correct proof...!

Bring forward one single saved person with eternal life....because you are making that extraordinary claim that NEVER came from Jesus!! Otherwise...prove to me Jesus said it!! Why do you call me arrogant.

As a priest I looked for anything and everything...and did NOT find it!! So may be you have the answer!!!

Otherwise, accept that NOTHING changed since that man came and went!!!

Until you produce REAL proof ...let me keep saying this...

When you have no substance of worth...you resort to the usual personal attacks...prompting others to retaliate!

Sadly, that seems your only raison d'être.

If you are suggesting that eternal life becomes an issue after death, then there is absolutely no proof.

Eternal life has nothing to do with a pagan human sacrifice!!!

1. Jesus NEVER claimed divinity. There is NOT a single direct claim from Jesus that he was indeed God in human form who has come as his own son to die for the sins of Jews and gentiles on a pagan cross and through belief in his sacrifice and through him one can get eternal life!
2. There is not a single person alive to be seen who has been blessed with eternal life! If you are suggesting that eternal life becomes an issue after death, then there is absolutely no proof. The claim about his sacrifice and eternal life will naturally be meaningless and redundant.
3. Unless you admit that "John" was actually written by some twisted idiots who made up things as they went along, you will never climb off this atonement nonsense.
4. Why do you ignore claims by Jesus the Jew who had nothing to do with Gentiles? Jesus the Jew claimed he was sent only for the Jews.
5. By turning Jesus the Jew into Christ the gentile ghost is pretty pathetic.
6. There is no need for ever merciful most forgiving god to orchestrate a vile pagan human sacrifice further insulting himself by allowing mad pagans to stick naked men up poles playing cannibalistic rituals of blood drinking and flesh eating. These are indeed satanic.
7. Its your call...keep worshipping that poor Jewish man and condemn him to hell by proving Jewish Talmud claim that he was indeed a seducer.
Or...worship God and simply love Jesus as a messenger who came to educate the Jews.
8. Your choice Buford.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#164064 Feb 17, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
We have answered that many times.
Allah is the LORD Almighty God.
As for you, you have not read Qur'aan. I can confirm that easily because anyone, who has read Qur'aan, will not make silly and foolish statements like you.
allah is not God, there is no evidence allah is anything more than the figment of mohammad's or some other arab's mind. Why would anyone think allah is God, because some unknown spirit told mohammad he was speaking for allah? God spoke to Moses, He did not need a middleman.

allah is always joined at the hip with mohammad as in: "allah and his messenger".
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#164065 Feb 17, 2013
wannabe scientist wrote:
<quoted text>
Adam was not created
from sperms accepted but
every single human after
adam and hawwa were
made from sperm which
made humans which
constitutes water+space
+clay which quran and
science says perfectly
says
According to the Qur'an, Jesus wasn't made of "sperms" at all, but of Word and Spirit.

"O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Jesus Christ the son of Mary was (no more than) a Messenger of Allah, And His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from Him.
[Al-Qur’an 4:171]

““You must not lose faith ”

Since: Jun 11

Location hidden

#164066 Feb 17, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
St John said: "I baptize you with water for repentance. But after me will come one who is more powerful than I, whose sandals I am not fit to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire."
St John told how Jesus' baptism was not the same as his baptism. St John was preparing the people to receive Jesus and the new baptism in water and Spirit.
Have you never thought that this flies in the face of god being all powerfull and thus the one alluded too?
Why would John the baptist (strange given the culture. More of a greek baptism.) if jewish call a human more powerfull.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#164067 Feb 17, 2013
Will you EVER accept this load of nonsense...if I say it is in Quran....?

Then why accept such VILE UNJUSTIFIED KILLING OF OTHER RACES in OT??

OT has been misrepresenting ALLAH by making him a slave of essentially one tribe!!!

Imagine if this was in the Quran, then you would throw it out immediately and insult Muslims...

So why don’t you throw it out NOW and insult yourselves????!

Judges 1

Israel Fights the Remaining Canaanites

1 After the death of Joshua, the Israelites asked ALLAH,“Who will be the first to go up and fight for us against the Canaanites?”

2 ALLAH answered,“Judah GANG is to go; I have given the land into their hands.”

3 Then the men of Judah GANG said to the Simeonites their brothers,“Come up with us into the territory allotted to us, to fight against the Canaanites. We in turn will go with you into yours.” So the Simeonites went with them.

4 When JUDAH GANG ATTACKED, ALLAH gave the Canaanites and Perizzites into their hands and THEY STRUCK DOWN TEN THOUSAND men at Bezek.

5 It was there that they found Adoni-Bezek and FOUGHT against him, PUTTING to ROUT the Canaanites and Perizzites.

6 Adoni-Bezek fled, but they CHASED him and CAUGHT him, and CUT OFF his THUMBS and BIG TOES.

7 Then Adoni-Bezek said,“SEVENTY KINGS WITH THEIR THUMBS and BIG TOES CUT OFF have picked up scraps under my table. Now God has paid me back for what I did to them.” They brought him to Jerusalem, and he died there.

8 The men of JUDAH GANG ATTACKED JERUSALEM also and TOOK IT!!!!(NO CHANGE THERE!!). They PUT THE CITY to the SWORD and SET IT ON FIRE!!!!!.

9 After that, the men of JUDAH GANG WENT DOWN to FIGHT against the Canaanites living in the hill country, the Negev and the western foothills.

10 They ADVANCED AGAINST the Canaanites living in HEBRON (formerly called Kiriath Arba) and defeated Sheshai, Ahiman and Talmai.

11 From there they ADVANCED AGAINST the people living in Debir (formerly called Kiriath Sepher).

12 And Caleb said,“I will give my daughter Acsah in marriage to the man who ATTACKS and CAPTURES Kiriath Sepher.”

13 Othniel son of Kenaz, Caleb’s younger brother, took it; so Caleb gave his daughter Acsah to him in marriage.

14 One day when she came to Othniel, she urged hima to ask her father for a field. When she got off her donkey, Caleb asked her,“What can I do for you?”

15 She replied,“Do me a special favor. Since you have given me land in the Negev, give me also springs of water.” Then Caleb gave her the upper and lower springs.

16 The descendants of Moses’ father-in-law, the Kenite, went up from the City of Palmsb with the men of JUDAH GANG to live among the people of the Desert of JUDAH GANG in the Negev near Arad.

17 Then the men of JUDAH GANG WENT with the Simeonites their brothers AND ATTACKED the Canaanites living in Zephath, and they TOTALLY DESTROYED the CITIY. Therefore it was called Hormah.d

18 The men of JUDAH GANG also took GAZA (NO CHANGE THERE!!!!), Ashkelon and Ekron—each city with its territory.

19 ALLAH was with the men of JUDAH GANG. They TOOK POSSESSION of the hill country, but they were unable to drive the people from the plains, because they had iron chariots.

20 As MOSES had PROMISED (!!!! LIAR!!), Hebron was given to Caleb, who DROVE from it the three sons of Anak.

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