Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256295 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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#163528 Feb 14, 2013
@ Alex Continued:
as they will:

and the earth standing out of the water and in the water; that is, "by the Word of God"; for this phrase, in the original text, is placed after this clause, and last of all; and refers not only to the being of the heavens of old, but to the rise, standing, and subsistence of the earth, which is here particularly described for the sake of the deluge, the apostle afterwards mentions: and it is said to be "standing out of the water", or "consisting out of it"; it consists of it as a part; the globe of the earth is terraqueous, partly land and partly water; and even the dry land itself has its rise and spring out of water; the first matter that was created is called the deep, and waters in which darkness was, and upon which the Spirit of God moved, Genesis 1:2; agreeably to which Thales the Milesian asserted (t), that water was the principle of all things; and the Ethiopic version here renders the words thus, "and the Word of God created also the earth out of water, and confirmed it": the account the Jews give of the first formation of the world is this (u);

"at first the world was , "water in water"; what is the sense (of that passage Genesis 1:2;) "and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters?" he returned, and made it snow; he casteth forth his ice like morsels, Psalm 147:17; he returned and made it earth; "for to the snow he saith, Be thou earth", Job 37:6, and the earth stood upon the waters; "to him that stretched out the earth above the waters", Psalm 136:6;''

however, certain it is, that the earth was first covered with water, when at the word, and by the command of God, the waters fled and hasted away, and were gathered into one place, and the dry land rose up and appeared; and then it was that it "stood out of the water"; see Genesis 1:9; moreover, the earth consists, or is kept and held together by water; there is a general humidity or moisture that runs through it, by which it is compacted together, or otherwise it would resolve into dust, and by which it is fit for the production, increase, and preservation of vegetables and other things, which it otherwise would not be: and it is also said to stand "in the water", or by the water; upon it, according to Psalm 24:2; or rather in the midst of it, there being waters above the firmament or expanse; in the airy heavens, in the clouds all around the earth, called the windows of heaven; and water below the firmament or expanse, in the earth itself; besides the great sea, a large body of waters is in the midst of the earth, in the very bowels of it, which feed rivers, and form springs, fountains and wells, called "the fountains of the great deep", Genesis 7:11; and in this position and situation was the earth of old, and so was prepared in nature for a general deluge, and yet was preserved firm and stable by the word of God, for a long series of time; so the Arabic version renders it, "and the earth out of the water, and in the water, stood stable, by the command of God"; but when it was his pleasure, he brought the flood on the world of the ungodly, of which an account follows

“warning angel of Allah”

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#163529 Feb 14, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>I know that, that is why I asked you that question.
And you should know that also.
I asked that question because the God of Israel is the author of the Holy Bible.
The Old and New Testament of God.
So, I ask you again ,did Muhammad's revelations come from the God of Israel?
I have stated for a thousand times that there is only one God. You do the math. If Allah is God, then clearly the God of Israel is the God of Arabia also.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#163530 Feb 14, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
<quoted text>I have stated for a thousand times that there is only one God. You do the math. If Allah is God, then clearly the God of Israel is the God of Arabia also.
You say: "If Allah is God...". Well, he is not. The one true God is the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. Isaac is the son of the promise God made with Abraham. The god described in the koran does not fit this God, and thus is not God.
John

Australia

#163532 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Which Bible are you referring to, Bro? The Catholics' Bible or the Protestants' Bible?
Imagine Jesus on his second trip.
Protestants: Lord, here is your Bible.
Catholics: Lord, here is your Bible.
Jesus looks at both, counts the books and says, "Say what!"
Says, "I never gave any of this" and throws them away!
Church Bishops and Cardinals: "But Lord, "
Jesus: No buts, get lost, liars!
Always hilarious how you try to put words into the mouth of Jesus, and then have the nerve to call other people liars.
The Catholic's Bible and the Protestant's Bible are the same except for a few Books in the old testament you moron.
When you drivel on about the Trinity, lying and quibbling, your deceit is exposed.
The form of God is beyond human understanding and entirely irrelevant.
What matters is the character of God and the power of God.
The muztard counterfeit god "allah" and the raping butchering paedophile corpse banging tyrant mad mo display none of the character of God and none of the power of God.
Islam is false and evil.
John

Australia

#163533 Feb 14, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
<quoted text>I have stated for a thousand times that there is only one God. You do the math. If Allah is God, then clearly the God of Israel is the God of Arabia also.
"Allah" is just another name for Satan.
The real God does not send raping butchering paedophile military dictator corpse banging false prophets like mad mo.

“warning angel of Allah”

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#163534 Feb 14, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
<quoted text>
You say: "If Allah is God...". Well, he is not. The one true God is the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob. Isaac is the son of the promise God made with Abraham. The god described in the koran does not fit this God, and thus is not God.
Allah is the same God. Common sense should tell you that, because all the 3 major religions share the same holy text, and the same prophets. The promise ? Just curious, Are you referring to Judaism when you speak as such ?

“warning angel of Allah”

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#163535 Feb 14, 2013
John wrote:
<quoted text>
"Allah" is just another name for Satan.
The real God does not send raping butchering paedophile military dictator corpse banging false prophets like mad mo.
Y....A.....W......N....

Another troll lol.

See this is what happens when their intelligence of the word of God falls short, and such outburst are displayed on the world wide web.

“warning angel of Allah”

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#163536 Feb 14, 2013
FYI John, "Shytahn" is the Arabic word for Satan.
John

Australia

#163537 Feb 14, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
<quoted text>Y....A.....W......N... .
Another troll lol.
See this is what happens when their intelligence of the word of God falls short, and such outburst are displayed on the world wide web.
No, it's the truth.
"Bright star of the ground" is your slogan. The waning moon is your symbol.
Satan has always been associated with the sickly moon.
Satan, also called Lucifer which means "Morning Star", fallen to earth and therefore "on the ground".
Wise up, you worship Satan.

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#163538 Feb 14, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
<quoted text>I have stated for a thousand times that there is only one God. You do the math. If Allah is God, then clearly the God of Israel is the God of Arabia also.
Yes there is only one God.
But the Muslim god Allah is the moon god worshiped by Muhammadan's,
the followers of Muhammad.

The Arabic Christian God is this Allah:

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The Most Holy Trinity: a Union of Love
It is said that a people's values can be seen in the god they worship. For Christians,``God is love''(1 Jn 4:8). But a God who is love seems like a philosophical impossibility. How can one God, who is perfect, lacking nothing in himself and possessed of no dependence on creatures, be love when love necessitates a relation to another?

The resolution of this paradox God himself has revealed to us: God is perfect unity, but a unity of three Divine Persons-- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-- who are each equally divine. The Father, Son, and Spirit exist from all eternity. None precedes the other in time, but each are related to the others by a relationship that orders them with respect to the others.

The ever-living, all-knowing, almighty God the Father exists from all eternity and is the source of all perfection created and uncreated.

The self-conception and self-expression of the perfect Being is so complete that it is another person: God the Son, the image of the invisible Father,``the only-begotten Son of God, begotten from the Father before all the ages, light from light, true God from true God, begotten not made, consubstantial with the Father, through whom all things came to be''(Nicene-Constantipolitan Creed).

The love between the Father and the Son is so perfect that it too is another person: the Holy Spirit ``the holy, the lordly and life-giving one, proceeding forth from the Father [and the Son], co-worshipped and co-glorified with Father and Son''(ibid.).

But if the Holy Spirit is the love between the Father and the Son, how can God as a whole be called Love? Each person shares equally in the divine nature, so that each person shares equally in the perfections of the others. The only distinction between the persons of the Trinity is their mutual relations.
None of the persons exists in respect to himself alone, but each exists relatively to the other two:

...the ``three persons'' who exist in God are the reality of word and love in their attachment to each other. They are not substances, personalities in the modern sense, but the relatedness whose pure actuality... does not impair unity of the highest being but fills it out.

He is not called Father with reference to himself but only in relation to the Son; seen by himself he is simply God.''

Here the decisive point comes beautifully to light.``Father'' is purely a concept of relationship.
Only in being-for the other is he Father; in his own being-in-himself he is simply God.

Person is the pure relation of being related, nothing else.
Relationship is not something extra added to the person, as it is with us; it only exists at all as relatedness.

....the First Person [the Father] does not beget the Son in the sense of the act of begetting coming on top of the finished Person; it is the act of begetting, of giving oneself, of streaming forth. It is identical with the act of giving.(Joseph Ratzinger Introduction to Christianity, pp. 131-132; cf. Augustine, Enarationes in Psalmos 68; De Trinitate VII, 1, 2.)

Each of the persons of the Trinity lives completely for the others; each is a complete gift of self to the others. The complete self-giving not only constitutes the individual persons of the Trinity, but also their inseparable oneness.
Thus, for Christians the very basis of all reality is the loving communion of persons that is the Holy Trinity.

Muslim Muhammadan's worship the moon god they also call Allah.
But it is not the true God of Abraham and Moses.

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#163539 Feb 14, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
<quoted text>I have stated for a thousand times that there is only one God. You do the math. If Allah is God, then clearly the God of Israel is the God of Arabia also.

Yes there is only one God.
But the Muslim god Allah is the moon god worshiped by Muhammadan's,
the followers of Muhammad.

The Arabic Christian God is this Allah:
The Most Holy Trinity: a Union of Love
It is said that a people's values can be seen in the god they worship. For Christians,``God is love''(1 Jn 4:8). But a God who is love seems like a philosophical impossibility. How can one God, who is perfect, lacking nothing in himself and possessed of no dependence on creatures, be love when love necessitates a relation to another?

The resolution of this paradox God himself has revealed to us: God is perfect unity, but a unity of three Divine Persons-- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-- who are each equally divine. The Father, Son, and Spirit exist from all eternity. None precedes the other in time, but each are related to the others by a relationship that orders them with respect to the others.

The ever-living, all-knowing, almighty God the Father exists from all eternity and is the source of all perfection created and uncreated.

The self-conception and self-expression of the perfect Being is so complete that it is another person: God the Son, the image of the invisible Father,``the only-begotten Son of God, begotten from the Father before all the ages, light from light, true God from true God, begotten not made, consubstantial with the Father, through whom all things came to be''(Nicene-Constantipolitan Creed).

The love between the Father and the Son is so perfect that it too is another person: the Holy Spirit ``the holy, the lordly and life-giving one, proceeding forth from the Father [and the Son], co-worshipped and co-glorified with Father and Son''(ibid.).

But if the Holy Spirit is the love between the Father and the Son, how can God as a whole be called Love? Each person shares equally in the divine nature, so that each person shares equally in the perfections of the others. The only distinction between the persons of the Trinity is their mutual relations.
None of the persons exists in respect to himself alone, but each exists relatively to the other two:

...the ``three persons'' who exist in God are the reality of word and love in their attachment to each other. They are not substances, personalities in the modern sense, but the relatedness whose pure actuality... does not impair unity of the highest being but fills it out.

He is not called Father with reference to himself but only in relation to the Son; seen by himself he is simply God.''

Here the decisive point comes beautifully to light.``Father'' is purely a concept of relationship.
Only in being-for the other is he Father; in his own being-in-himself he is simply God.

Person is the pure relation of being related, nothing else.
Relationship is not something extra added to the person, as it is with us; it only exists at all as relatedness.

....the First Person [the Father] does not beget the Son in the sense of the act of begetting coming on top of the finished Person; it is the act of begetting, of giving oneself, of streaming forth. It is identical with the act of giving.(Joseph Ratzinger Introduction to Christianity, pp. 131-132; cf. Augustine, Enarationes in Psalmos 68; De Trinitate VII, 1, 2.)

Each of the persons of the Trinity lives completely for the others; each is a complete gift of self to the others. The complete self-giving not only constitutes the individual persons of the Trinity, but also their inseparable oneness.
Thus, for Christians the very basis of all reality is the loving communion of persons that is the Holy Trinity.

Muslim Muhammadan's worship the moon god they also call Allah.
But it is not the true God of Abraham and Moses.

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#163540 Feb 14, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
<quoted text>Allah is the same God. Common sense should tell you that, because all the 3 major religions share the same holy text, and the same prophets. The promise ? Just curious, Are you referring to Judaism when you speak as such ?
Muhammad worshiped the pagan moon god he called Allah.
Don't you know that Muslim?
Muhammad's jinn devil religion.
See for your self Muslim, check out this link.
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/Mohammad...
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#163541 Feb 14, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
This has to be a trick question, because no man can define Allah.
Defining the thatness, true nature or the thing-in-itself of any object is beyond the capacity of the exteriorized mind.

So, inferential knowledge is superficial.

There is only one way of knowing the thatness of a thing and that is by uniion of the subject with the object in consciousness.

Become one in consciounsess with that to know that.

Try defining the true nature or the thatness of a tree, stone, mountain, river or a bird and we always end up defining its attributes and not the essence or the thatness of the thing.

Similarly, defining the archetypal being called Allah is done only by defining its 99 attributes, while the thatness of Allah remains shrouded in mystery.

So, the inability to define a thing extends to Allah, a stone, a bird, a river and to anything else.

"The description is not the described; I can describe the mountain, but the description is not the mountain, and if you are caught up in the description, as most people are, then you will never see the mountain."

- J Krishnamurti

Did you get it?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#163542 Feb 14, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
FYI John, "Shytahn" is the Arabic word for Satan.
What is the archetypal nature of shaitaan?

How do you know this being exists?

Have you come into direct contact with it? Describe the encounter.

Explain creation from nothing giving the detailed mechanism.

What lies beyond attribution and non-attribution?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#163543 Feb 14, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
<quoted text>

Allah is the same God. All the 3 major religions share the same holy text, and the same prophets.
If so, then, why doesn't the Tanach cleraly mention Jesus and Muhammad as future prophets?

Why doesn't the NT refer to Muhammad in bold terms as the prophet to succeed Jesus?

Why is it that Jesus preached nondualism, while Muhammad strongly advocated dualism?

Why are the rituals of the 3 Semitic cults different?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#163544 Feb 14, 2013
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
<quoted text>

I have stated for a thousand times that there is only one God.
If there is only one God, then why does Allah warn believers not to worship other Gods (Allah's rivals)?

How do you justify the exitence of the extra-cosmic, anthropopathic and creationist God in face of the evidence of the indestructibility of consciousness and energy that form a unified field of consciousness-energy?

Consciounsess and energy that form a unified field can neither be created nor destroyed.

The unified field of consciousness-energy is self-existent.

Explain creation from nothing.

(smiles)
bmz

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#163545 Feb 14, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Suhayl Hadar wrote:
I have stated for a thousand times that there is only one God. You do the math. If Allah is God, then clearly the God of Israel is the God of Arabia also.
Yes there is only one God.
But the Muslim god Allah is the moon god worshiped by Muhammadan's,
the followers of Muhammad.
The Arabic Christian God is this Allah:
The Most Holy Trinity: a Union of Love
It is said that a people's values can be seen in the god they worship. For Christians,``God is love''(1 Jn 4:8). But a God who is love seems like a philosophical impossibility. How can one God, who is perfect, lacking nothing in himself and possessed of no dependence on creatures, be love when love necessitates a relation to another?
The resolution of this paradox God himself has revealed to us: God is perfect unity, but a unity of three Divine Persons-- Father, Son, and Holy Spirit-- who are each equally divine. The Father, Son, and Spirit exist from all eternity. None precedes the other in time, but each are related to the others by a relationship that orders them with respect to the others.
The ever-living, all-knowing, almighty God the Father exists from all eternity and is the source of all perfection created and uncreated.
The self-conception and self-expression of the perfect Being is so complete that it is another person: God the Son, the image of the invisible Father,``the only-begotten Son of God, begotten from the Father before all the ages, light from light, true God from true God, begotten not made, consubstantial with the Father, through whom all things came to be''(Nicene-Constantipolitan Creed).
The love between the Father and the Son is so perfect that it too is another person: the Holy Spirit ``the holy, the lordly and life-giving one, proceeding forth from the Father [and the Son], co-worshipped and co-glorified with Father and Son''(ibid.).
But if the Holy Spirit is the love between the Father and the Son, how can God as a whole be called Love? Each person shares equally in the divine nature, so that each person shares equally in the perfections of the others. The only distinction between the persons of the Trinity is their mutual relations.
None of the persons exists in respect to himself alone, but each exists relatively to the other two:
...the ``three persons'' who exist in God are the reality of word and love in their attachment to each other. They are not substances, personalities in the modern sense, but the relatedness whose pure actuality... does not impair unity of the highest being but fills it out.
He is not called Father with reference to himself but only in relation to the Son; seen by himself he is simply God.''
Here the decisive point comes beautifully to light.``Father'' is purely a concept of relationship.
Only in being-for the other is he Father; in his own being-in-himself he is simply God.
Person is the pure relation of being related, nothing else.
Relationship is not something extra added to the person, as it is with us; it only exists at all as relatedness.
....the First Person [the Father] does not beget the Son in the sense of the act of begetting coming on top of the finished Person; it is the act of begetting, of giving oneself, of streaming forth. It is identical with the act of giving.(Joseph Ratzinger Introduction to Christianity, pp. 131-132; cf. Augustine, Enarationes in Psalmos 68; De Trinitate VII, 1, 2.)
Each of the persons of the Trinity lives completely for the others; each is a complete gift of self to the others. The complete self-giving not only constitutes the individual persons of the Trinity, but also their inseparable oneness.

Muslim Muhammadan's worship the moon god they also call Allah.
But it is not the true God of Abraham and Moses.
YAWN!

How many times will you repeat this Horse Shit, which even Jesus did not talk about?

This abomination of 3 in a Godhead, is not the God of Israel. Check out with the members of the Jewish faith.
bmz

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#163546 Feb 14, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
Muhammad worshiped the pagan moon god he called Allah.
Don't you know that Muslim?
Muhammad's jinn devil religion.
See for your self Muslim, check out this link.
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/Mohammad...
No, he did not and neither do we. Fool, there was no moon god anywhere at that time.

Dr. Rafat Amari is another Xian polemicist and a bloody fool. The pagan Arabs did not worship the moon, ignorant fool.

This moon god theory was concocted by another Christian evangelical fool,'dr' Robert Morey in the early nineties.

What is the Arabic word for moon god? Check it out and let me know.

Christianity is actually Satan's dirty revenge against Jesus and God. Satan had it established through his minions Paul and the Church fathers.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#163547 Feb 14, 2013
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>

This abomination of 3 in a Godhead, is not the God of Israel. Check out with the members of the Jewish faith.

This abomination with 99 attributes with its headquarters in Mecca/Kaaba is not the the God of Israel.

No Jew will ever say that Allah of the Muslims is the God of Israel.

ROFL
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#163548 Feb 14, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus came to save all peoples under the new covenant God promised the Jews in Jeramie 31:31.
Go not into the way of the Gentiles - Our Lord only intended that the first offers of salvation should be made to the Jewish people; and that the heathen should not be noticed in this first mission, that no stumbling-block might be cast in the way of the new covenant.
The first mission was for Jesus to suffer and die for the sins of the forefathers who died in righteousness under the promise of salvation to the Jews. The second mission came after His resurrection, the new covenant came into being with the Jews, and all people of the world came under the new covenant.
And Jesus then sent the disciple to all the nations of the world,
Matthew 28:19
"Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20. teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and behold I am with you all days, even unto the consummation of the world."
God does things in His own way Alex.
Please stop quoting the forgery and fraud, known as Matthew 28:19.

Peter never blessed or baptized any one in the name of the three alleged members of the monstrosity and absurdity known as Trinity.

You triune God does not exist.

What was the new covenant? Any description?

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