Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256490 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#156450 Dec 21, 2012
jesus is wrote:
<quoted text>
up your arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrs!
No, not up mine.

It should be up theirs, who came up with that silly Nicene Creed.

God of God? What kind of a nonsense is that?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156452 Dec 21, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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But in the Torah we found the first coming of Adam, and he eaten a fruit, what fruit was that?
What are the beasts of the fields? Name them.
rabbee: sorry it is the second, occurance of adam. after G-D had divided Adam, as he and she. that the woman(aka the errant mrs jesus) is offered, the forbidden fruit from the more subtle than any other beast of the fields.

and as for naming the beasts, i rather have you do that. so how many nations, religions, races, and other organizations are there. and why isn't the americian beast, religiously the same as the russian beast, secular beast, the evolution beast, muslem beast, athiest beast, nazi beast, or scientific beast? when we know their main attributes, is they do not actually believe in G-D. what are the attributes that, each orginizational critter diverse? and how do you distinguist, the diverse prey apart, from all the preditors?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156453 Dec 21, 2012
jesus is wrote:
THERE ARE TWO BOOKS THAT CARRY THE NAME BARNABAS. ONE HAS TO BE A FAKE BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY DIFFERENT.
There is the Gospel of Barnabas and the Epistle of Barnabas. The Gospel of Barnabas is the book promoted by Muslims today, while the Epistle of Barnabas is an ancient Christian book which teaches about the lordship, DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS!!!!
At the very start of the Gospel of Barnabas Jesus is called the Christ:
'God has during these past days visited us by his prophet Jesus CHRIST (p.2)'.
CHRIST = MESSIAH: The word (Christ) is the Greek translation for the Hebrew word (Messiah). Both these words when translated into English mean the Anointed One or the Chosen One.
THE GOSPEL OF BARNABAS HAS JESUS DENYING THAT HE IS THE MESSIAH (CHRIST)!!!!!
"I am not the Messiah" (chap. 42).
AND THE QURAN CALLS JESUS THE MESSIAH!!!!!!!
rabbee: and just what is your reasoning, that only one has to be a fake? does only your acceptance of one, or the other, make either one true? there are more choices than, one is wrong and the other isn't.

or even half of one is true, and half of the other is a lie. or ever other sentence is a lie, and how serious are the lies/errors?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#156454 Dec 21, 2012
Buford wrote:
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That is false!
http://www.real-islam.org/73_8.htm
Sect #59 in the list, the Ibriyah, believe that, "Holy Prophet (pbuh) was a wise man but not a prophet."
Sect #70, the Lafziyah, believe that, "Quran is not the word of God but only its meaning and essence is the word of God. Words of Quran are just the words of narrator."
Sect #45,the Nazzamiyah, are, "followers of abu-Ishaq Ibrahim ibn-Saiyar. They do not believe in the miraculous nature of the Holy Quran nor do they believe the miracles of Holy Prophet (pbuh) like splitting the moon."
Sect #18, the Zarariyah, "believed that Allah did not live nor had any attributes till He created for Himself life and His attributes."

It doesn't matter if any of these 73 sects of Islam only existed for a brief while. What matters is that they existed at all, and in opposition to more mainstream or foundational beliefs of Islam.
Thanks for the link to all junk names. Good that they existed for a short while.

Almost full of junk and stuff. Most of those sects are nonsense. Real-Islam belongs to Ahmadis or Qadiyanis, who do not believe that Muhammad was the last prophet. They believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was Jesus returned. So, they cannot be considered Muslims.

In that case Sect # 59 is not Muslim at all.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#156455 Dec 21, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: and just what is your reasoning, that only one has to be a fake? does only your acceptance of one, or the other, make either one true? there are more choices than, one is wrong and the other isn't.
or even half of one is true, and half of the other is a lie. or ever other sentence is a lie, and how serious are the lies/errors?
Post-Jesus Christianity lies are very serious and should be refuted and demolished.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156456 Dec 21, 2012
bmz wrote:
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Post-Jesus Christianity lies are very serious and should be refuted and demolished.
rabbee: well i do not limit myself to post christianity, post judaism, or post eeslameec, post russian, post scientific. but to all alleged as, post Torah non-sense. TheTorah is written by G-D, and everything else is written by men. and is debatable as to from where, their inspiration came. since even isops feebles, were inspired from somewhere or someone. but i still judge them, as idolitry.

Richie T

Since: Aug 12

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#156457 Dec 21, 2012
Buford wrote:
CORRECTION:
Mohammad did. He spoke for God, but if you also speak for God, and anything that you post differs in the slightest degree from what he dictated, then this makes you not only a prophet after Mohammad, but an ABROGATER, which is doubly IMPOSSIBLE, according to the revelation that God gave to Mohammad, unless, of course, Mohammad was DECEIVED, but to even consider this as a possibility would make you an apostate, no?
Jesus was and is the only spokesman for the Lord God. Muhammad was created by Him, and answers to Him, the Holy One of Israel. www.scribd.com/doc/31322017/Salvation ...
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#156458 Dec 21, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: and just what is your reasoning, that only one has to be a fake? does only your acceptance of one, or the other, make either one true? there are more choices than, one is wrong and the other isn't.
or even half of one is true, and half of the other is a lie. or ever other sentence is a lie, and how serious are the lies/errors?
WHO WAS BARNABAS?

He was originally a Levite named Joseph who converted in Jerusalem and became the apostle Paul's companion on most of his first missionary journey. They ended up going different directions when they had a dispute over whether they should take John Mark or not (Barnabas wanted to, Paul didn't). Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, but Paul choose Silas and continued on his journey.

If they are both false then someone had a great imagination and wasted his time writing nothing, to discredit no-one. And that still doesn't make 'The Gospel of Barnabas' true.

If a Christian wanted to edit the writings of Barnabas and the The GOB is partially correct, why didn't they edit the whole thing and not leave the parts that you claim are true?

WHY WOULD THEY ONLY EDIT PART?

Since: May 12

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#156459 Dec 21, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: sorry it is the second, occurance of adam. after G-D had divided Adam, as he and she. that the woman(aka the errant mrs jesus) is offered, the forbidden fruit from the more subtle than any other beast of the fields.
and as for naming the beasts, i rather have you do that. so how many nations, religions, races, and other organizations are there. and why isn't the americian beast, religiously the same as the russian beast, secular beast, the evolution beast, muslem beast, athiest beast, nazi beast, or scientific beast? when we know their main attributes, is they do not actually believe in G-D. what are the attributes that, each orginizational critter diverse? and how do you distinguist, the diverse prey apart, from all the preditors?
Can you name the fruit Adam has eaten?

Since when it's a fault to not believing in the existence of a being that is invisible, untouchable, analized?

Since: May 12

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#156460 Dec 21, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the link to all junk names. Good that they existed for a short while.
Almost full of junk and stuff. Most of those sects are nonsense. Real-Islam belongs to Ahmadis or Qadiyanis, who do not believe that Muhammad was the last prophet. They believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was Jesus returned. So, they cannot be considered Muslims.
In that case Sect # 59 is not Muslim at all.
You never make mistakes, right?
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#156461 Dec 21, 2012
Tradition says that Barnabas preached in Alexandria and Rome, and was stoned to death at Salamis about 61 AD. He is considered the founder of the Cypriot Church.
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#156462 Dec 21, 2012
THE MUSLIM SCHOLAR CYRIL GLASSE STATES:

'As regards the "Gospel of Barnabas" itself, there is no question that it is a medieval forgery. A complete Italian manuscript exists which appears to be a translation from a Spanish original (which exists in part), written to curry favor with Muslims of the time. It contains anachronisms which can date only from the Middle Ages and not before, and shows a garbled comprehension of Islamic doctrines, calling the Prophet "the Messiah", which Islam does not claim for him. Besides its farcical notion of sacred history, stylistically it is a mediocre parody of the Gospels, as the writings of Baha'Allah are of the Koran.'
The Concise Encyclopedia of Islam, Harper & Row, 1989, p. 64
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#156464 Dec 21, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for the link to all junk names. Good that they existed for a short while.
Almost full of junk and stuff. Most of those sects are nonsense. Real-Islam belongs to Ahmadis or Qadiyanis, who do not believe that Muhammad was the last prophet. They believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed was Jesus returned. So, they cannot be considered Muslims.
In that case Sect # 59 is not Muslim at all.
Guess what? There are lots of folks who not only don't believe that Mohammad was "the last prophet," they don't believe that he was a prophet at all, and many of these same folks believe in one God, or Supreme Being and Creator of all. That is, they are monotheists, but the FACT that they reject the Spelunker from Mecca as an imposter, or a dupe, or a con man, or a psycho, or a tool of hell, or a thief, murderer, rape enabler, and all around nasty person, means that they AREN'T Muslims in the way that ALLAH/MOHAMMAD* would have them be Muslims.

* The two are virtually indistinguishable. One could even call them PARTNERS.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#156465 Dec 21, 2012
Medieval Christian views on Muhammad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Christi...

(First, for you wikipedia hating Muslims, and you know who you are, if something is factually in error in the following post of mine, then it is your DUTY before Allah and His Messenger (PBUH) to correct it.)

Medieval Christian views on Muhammad were largely antagonistic. During the Middle Ages, the Christian world was actively in opposition to or showed hostility toward Muhammad, the prophet of Islam. The earliest (documented) Christian knowledge of Muhammad stems from Byzantine sources, written shortly after Muhammad's death in 632. John of Damascus in the 8th century characterized Muhammad as a false prophet introducing a Christological heresy akin to Arianism in contesting the divinity of Jesus Christ. With the Crusades of the High Middle Ages, and the wars against the Ottoman Empire during the Late Middle Ages, the Christian reception of Muhammad became more polemical, moving from the classification as a heretic to depiction of Muhammad as a servant of Satan or as the Antichrist, who will be suffering tortures in Hell.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#156466 Dec 21, 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constant...

Excerpt:

The (MUSLIM) Army converged upon the Augusteum, the vast square that fronted the great church of Hagia Sophia whose bronze gates were barred by a huge throng of civilians inside the building, hoping for divine protection.

After the doors were breached, the troops separated the congregation according to what price they might bring in the slave markets.

Mehmed II allowed his troops to plunder the city for three days as it was customary. Soldiers fought over the possession of some of the spoils of war.

According to the Venetian surgeon Nicolo Barbaro "all through the day the Turks made a great slaughter of Christians through the city".

According to Philip Mansel thousands of civilans were killed and 30,000 civilians were enslaved or deported.
__________
They were simply following Mohammad's example.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#156467 Dec 21, 2012
CORRECTION:

They were simply following Mohammad's PERFECT example.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#156468 Dec 21, 2012
TURD,

Merry Christmas!
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#156469 Dec 21, 2012
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

Luke 2
New International Version (NIV)

The Birth of Jesus

2 In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world. 2 (This was the first census that took place while Quirinius was governor of Syria.) 3 And everyone went to their own town to register.

4 So Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. 5 He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. 6 While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, 7 and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no guest room available for them.

8 And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. 9 An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10 But the angel said to them,“Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people. 11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord. 12 This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”

13 Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,

14 “Glory to God in the highest heaven,
and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests.”

15 When the angels had left them and gone into heaven, the shepherds said to one another,“Let’s go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has happened, which the Lord has told us about.”

16 So they hurried off and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby, who was lying in the manger. 17 When they had seen him, they spread the word concerning what had been told them about this child, 18 and all who heard it were amazed at what the shepherds said to them. 19 But Mary treasured up all these things and pondered them in her heart. 20 The shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things they had heard and seen, which were just as they had been told.

21 On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceived.
__________
Did any such announcement accompany the birth of the Spelunker of Mecca, a.k.a., THE LAST AND BEST EVER PROPHET,(to Muslims, that is)?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#156470 Dec 21, 2012
Buford wrote:
Medieval Christian views on Muhammad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Christi...

(First, for you wikipedia hating Muslims, and you know who you are, if something is factually in error in the following post of mine, then it is your DUTY before Allah and His Messenger (PBUH) to correct it.)

Medieval Christian views on Muhammad were largely antagonistic. During the Middle Ages, the Christian world was actively in opposition to or showed hostility toward Muhammad, the prophet of Islam. The earliest (documented) Christian knowledge of Muhammad stems from Byzantine sources, written shortly after Muhammad's death in 632. John of Damascus in the 8th century characterized Muhammad as a false prophet introducing a Christological heresy akin to Arianism in contesting the divinity of Jesus Christ. With the Crusades of the High Middle Ages, and the wars against the Ottoman Empire during the Late Middle Ages, the Christian reception of Muhammad became more polemical, moving from the classification as a heretic to depiction of Muhammad as a servant of Satan or as the Antichrist, who will be suffering tortures in Hell.
Yes, I know that it is me. Wikipedia is a fool's pedia. It is for ignorant fools, who have neither read a lot nor do they bother to look for other well-established and proper encyclopedias.

I do not have to correct anything, as you wrote it well.

Your line, "Medieval Christian views on Muhammad were largely antagonistic.", is absolutely correct. Midevil Christians, I mean Medieval Christians were themselves a heretic lot, who were hostile and antagonistic, not only to Muhammad but to the Jews also. They could slaughter a few million Jews, a minority but they could not slaughter Muslims, who were large in numbers.

They were hostile and antagonistic to every sensible human being and every sensible proposal, who was fiercely monotheistic and truly believed in one God, while they wanted others to believe in the absurd Triune God. The unschooled lot believed in all the nonsense dictated by the Church and thought only that was true.

First, they were pissed off by the Jews and then by the Muslims and this, they simply could not take.

You are right in saying that the Medieval Christians were polemical. I would say all Christians were extremely polemical throughout the ages and most still are.

Thanks for a good post.
bmz

Since: Mar 08

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#156471 Dec 21, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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So you call "incoherence" what your brain can't graps??? Weird behaviour.
Actually, your post was weird and made no sense, hence the remark. Most of the times, you don't even realize what you write.

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