Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 225863 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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Buford

Hurricane, WV

#156056 Dec 14, 2012
It must have been the pre-incarnate Mohammad who descended from heaven in the form of tongues of fire that rested on the heads of the disciples of Jesus in Acts 2. RIGHT???
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#156057 Dec 14, 2012
Actually, Christians recoil at the suggestion that Mohammad, that thieving and murdering warlord from Arabia and founder of an anti-christ religion, is the one who resides in them forever, in accordance with John 14:16, to wit:

"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever."
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#156058 Dec 14, 2012
Then there is this:

John 14:17 “... the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him, but you know Him (the Holy Spirit), for He dwells (lives) with you and will be with you.”

And Paul in 2 Corinthians 3:17

"Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom."

Hmm...Jesus, the man of peace, who wept over Jerusalem, is also Mohammad, the man of war, who turned his back on Jerusalem? I sincerely doubt it.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156059 Dec 14, 2012
Buford wrote:
Actually, Christians recoil at the suggestion that Mohammad, that thieving and murdering warlord from Arabia and founder of an anti-christ religion, is the one who resides in them forever, in accordance with John 14:16, to wit:
"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever."
rabbee: oh yeah right! me and that woman again. which does not seem to be getting off, to a very good start again. is it time to bring in, the jumper cables yet?

in this world that so, igmores the woman's part in this story again. even though the word Torah, tells you. it's all about, the woman thingy again.
MUQ

Jubail, Saudi Arabia

#156060 Dec 14, 2012
Excerpts from the Gospel of Barnabas, Part-6
Chapter 11 Jesus Miraculously heals a leper, and goes into Jerusalem.

Jesus descending from the mountain to come into Jerusalem, met a leper, who by divine inspiration knew Jesus to be a prophet. Therefore with tears he prayed him, saying; 'Jesus, thou son of David, have mercy on me.' Jesus answered:'What wilt thou, brother, that I should do unto thee?'
The leper answered:'Lord, give me health.'

Jesus reproved him, saying:'Thou art foolish; pray to God who created thee, and he will give thee health; for I am a man, as thou art.'
The leper answered:'I know that thou, Lord, art a man, but an holy one of the Lord. Wherefore pray thou to God, and he will give me health.'

Then Jesus, sighing, said:'Lord God Almighty, for the love of thy holy prophets give health to this sick man.' Then, having said this, he said, touching the sick man with his hands in the name of God:'O brother, receive thy health!' And when he had said this the leprosy was cleansed, insomuch that the flesh of the leper was left unto him like that of a child.

Note: This confirms Mk. 1-40, Lu. 5-12 and Mat. 8-4, but Jesus’ reply is different (MUQ)

Chapter 12 First sermon of Jesus delivered to the people: wonderful in doctrine concerning the name of God.

The whole city of Jerusalem was moved by these words, wherefore they all ran together to the temple to see Jesus,..

Then ascended Jesus to the place whence the scribes were wont to speak. And having beckoned with the hand for silence, he opened his mouth, saying:

'Blessed be the holy name of God, who of his goodness and mercy willed to create his creatures that they might glorify him.

Blessed be the holy name of God, who created the splendour of all the saints and prophets before all things to send him for the salvation of the world,…

Blessed be the holy name of God, who created the angels that they might serve him.

And blessed be God, who punished and reprobated Satan and his followers, who would not reverence him whom God willeth to be reverenced.

Blessed be the holy name of God, who created man out of the clay of the earth, and set him over his works. Blessed be the holy name of God, who drove man out of paradise for having transgressed his holy precept…

'But, brethren, what do we to-day, that we be not punished for our sins?'

And then Jesus with greatest vehemence rebuked the people for that they had forgotten the word of God, and gave themselves only to vanity; he rebuked the priests for their negligence in God's service and for their worldly greed; he rebuked the scribes because they preached vain doctrine, and forsook the law of God; he rebuked the doctors because they made the law of God of none effect through their traditions.

And in such wise did Jesus speak to the people, that all wept, from the least to the greatest, crying mercy, and beseeching Jesus that he would pray of them; save only their priests and leaders, who on that day conceived hatred against Jesus for having thus spoken against the priests, scribes, and doctors. And they meditated upon his death, but for fear of the people, who had received him as a prophet of God, they spoke no word.

Jesus raised his hands to the Lord God and prayed, and the people weeping said:'So be it, O Lord, so be it.' The prayer being ended, Jesus descended from the temple; and that day he departed from Jerusalem, with many that followed him. And the priests spoke evil of Jesus among themselves.

Note: See the Powerful Opening Sermon of Jesus as given in Barnabas and compare it with first sermon of Jesus in other Gospels and you will see the difference (MUQ)
(Abridged)
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#156061 Dec 14, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Those people are mostly ignorant fools. To me, that is no rattling of Qur'aan at all.
The substance has always remained the same. It was the recitation. No big deal.
For example, the Egyptians still call Jannah as Gunnah (with a G as in Gun). Arabs raed Dal-leen, whereas as Persians and sub-Continentals read Dzal-leen or Zwalleen. All say, Akbar, but the Turk says Achbar (Ach as in much).
After raising all foolish hullabaloo, that ignorant fool Puin finally wrote there were no errors.
Some wrote IRUM, some wrote IRAM and the Arabs wrote IRM.
Hajjaj added diacritical marks, so that others could read.
The script for all the Persians and the Subcontinentals is different from the script that the Arabs and others use.
And these ignorant fools do not know.
Thanks for bringing it up.
Who told you that Hajjaj added diacritical marks? Those Sana manuscripts were written around his time, they dont have any diacritical marks? You need to get your facts straight. Now all of a sudden you are quoting Islamic history of some sorts which you so vehemetly reject.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#156062 Dec 14, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>
George,
Take your meds.
Hello bu(ttturdlick)ford the ignorant village idiot!

Have you seen any "ghosts" lately?

Why did BJ run off and "send" the ghost?

Is he not supposed to be the "ghost"?

Then why did he not say, "I will run off now and then come back as a ghost"?

Therefore, no ghostly spirit is there to be seen!

The answer is in the "claim"...

"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost....."

Did Jesus actually say "But the comforter (COMMA) which is the Holy Ghost..."?

Of course NOT!!!!!

He would NEVER have said "comma holy ghost"!

Therefore, a liar introduced the "holy ghost" followed by a "comma"!

Surely any fool can see that "holy ghost is a pathetic invention".

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156063 Dec 14, 2012
Buford wrote:
http://www.biblegateway.com/pa ssage/?search=Acts+2&versi on=NIV
The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost
2 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[a] as the Spirit enabled them.
You seriously believe in that tale, which makes no sense?

Just a tale. If it had really happened, the Jews would have known that. How come the writers of the gospels did not mention that. The gospels came long after Jesus was gone. Right?

So, what did they say? Any message?

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156064 Dec 14, 2012
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
Who told you that Hajjaj added diacritical marks? Those Sana manuscripts were written around his time, they dont have any diacritical marks? You need to get your facts straight. Now all of a sudden you are quoting Islamic history of some sorts which you so vehemetly reject.
I read that. If you know who added, then tell me. As I said, it was done for the convenience of others.

Sana manuscripts were scraps and stuff and it was and still is common practice to bury torn and tattered pages of Qur'aan. There is no such thing as Sana Qur'aan. Puin never had a complete "Sana Qur'aan".

I have already told you that the ignorant fool finally admitted that it was only the writing style that mattered.

Read history, deliberate and think what appears to make sense and what does not.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#156066 Dec 14, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
You seriously believe in that tale, which makes no sense?
Just a tale. If it had really happened, the Jews would have known that. How come the writers of the gospels did not mention that. The gospels came long after Jesus was gone. Right?
So, what did they say? Any message?
rabbee: well do i detect a difficulty, in hyprocrucy here? but unfortunatly if you denouce their claim. then it denounces all of yours along a simular line.

Since: Dec 12

UK

#156067 Dec 14, 2012
Professor Puin has written:

"My idea is that the Qur’an is a kind of cocktail of texts that were not all understood even at the time of Muhammad. Many of them may even be a hundred years older than Islam itself. The Qur’an claims for itself that it is ‘mubeen’, or clear. But [contrary to popular belief] if you look at it, you will notice that every fifth sentence or so simply does not make sense…the fact is that a fifth of the Qur’anic text is just incomprehensible. If the Qur’an is not comprehensible, if it can’t even be understood in Arabic, then it’s not translatable into any language. That is why Muslims are afraid. Since the Qur’an claims repeatedly to be clear but is not - there is an obvious and serious contradiction. Something else must be going on".

his book is out

http://www.prometheusbooks.com/index.php...
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#156068 Dec 14, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello bu(ttturdlick)ford the ignorant village idiot!
Have you seen any "ghosts" lately?
Why did BJ run off and "send" the ghost?
Is he not supposed to be the "ghost"?
Then why did he not say, "I will run off now and then come back as a ghost"?
Therefore, no ghostly spirit is there to be seen!
The answer is in the "claim"...
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost....."
Did Jesus actually say "But the comforter (COMMA) which is the Holy Ghost..."?
Of course NOT!!!!!
He would NEVER have said "comma holy ghost"!
Therefore, a liar introduced the "holy ghost" followed by a "comma"!
Surely any fool can see that "holy ghost is a pathetic invention".
George,

Take your meds.
smhl

Wilkes Barre, PA

#156069 Dec 14, 2012
Jesus might have said some wise remarks as reported in the synoptics. As for the fourth gospel, not a single word in it were ever spoken by him.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156070 Dec 14, 2012
smhl wrote:
Jesus might have said some wise remarks as reported in the synoptics. As for the fourth gospel, not a single word in it were ever spoken by him.
Exactly and very true!

Thank you very much.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156071 Dec 14, 2012
El Morales wrote:
Professor Puin has written:
"My idea is that the Qur’an is a kind of cocktail of texts that were not all understood even at the time of Muhammad. Many of them may even be a hundred years older than Islam itself. The Qur’an claims for itself that it is ‘mubeen’, or clear. But [contrary to popular belief] if you look at it, you will notice that every fifth sentence or so simply does not make sense…the fact is that a fifth of the Qur’anic text is just incomprehensible. If the Qur’an is not comprehensible, if it can’t even be understood in Arabic, then it’s not translatable into any language. That is why Muslims are afraid. Since the Qur’an claims repeatedly to be clear but is not - there is an obvious and serious contradiction. Something else must be going on".
his book is out
http://www.prometheusbooks.com/index.php...
I think it is high time that the ignorant fool, Puin should start going after the nonsense, incoherence and the absurdities in the New Testament and the Old Testament Cocktail.

Qur'aan is absolutely clear. I have been translating the verses of Qur'aan here quite easily.

Now, please write some verses, which you think, aren't clear.

bmz

Since: Mar 08

Singapore

#156074 Dec 15, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Many things in the Old Scriptures were not corrupted like saying God is one and you shall worship none but Him!!
Deut. 18:18 was a "harmless passage" in which there was no need to "modify or corrupt".
Jews thought it "just like hundreds of other prophesies in the Bible"..... Christians "thought" that it refers to Jesus 100 %, only when our prophet came 600 years ago, then the "real worth" of that prophesy was seen.
By that time, it was not feasible to modify the scriptures, because Muslim scholars did not know about this prophesy, till after many centuries had passed.
The same was with the "comforter" prophesy in Gospel of John. The Christian world was "confident" that Issue of Comforter was solved for ever when they "inserted" "Comforter , which is the Holy Spirit" into that Gospel.

It was a "shock of a life time" when the Comforter came into Arabia in 7th Century CE!!
Enjoyed reading that, MUQ.

The last line was very impressive.

Salaams
BMZ
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#156075 Dec 15, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Many things in the Old Scriptures were not corrupted like saying God is one and you shall worship none but Him!!
Deut. 18:18 was a "harmless passage" in which there was no need to "modify or corrupt".
Jews thought it "just like hundreds of other prophesies in the Bible"..... Christians "thought" that it refers to Jesus 100 %, only when our prophet came 600 years ago, then the "real worth" of that prophesy was seen.
By that time, it was not feasible to modify the scriptures, because Muslim scholars did not know about this prophesy, till after many centuries had passed.
The same was with the "comforter" prophesy in Gospel of John. The Christian world was "confident" that Issue of Comforter was solved for ever when they "inserted" "Comforter , which is the Holy Spirit" into that Gospel.
It was a "shock of a life time" when the Comforter came into Arabia in 7th Century CE!!
Hmmm...you and bmz the Qur'aan Scholar disagree about John 14:26. In his book that makes you an "ignorant fool," if not an apostate.
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#156076 Dec 15, 2012
Mohammad the "Comforter"

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Myths...

The Myth:

Muhammad was a peaceful man who taught his followers to be the same. Muslims lived peacefully for centuries, fighting only in self-defense - and when it was necessary. True Muslims would never act aggressively.

The Truth:

Muhammad organized 65 military campaigns in the last ten years of his life and personally led 27 of them. The more power that he attained, the smaller the excuse needed to go to battle, until finally he began attacking tribes merely because they were not yet part of his growing empire.

After Muhammad’s death, his successor immediately went to war with former allied tribes which wanted to go their own way. Abu Bakr called them 'apostates' and slaughtered anyone who did not want to remain Muslim. Eventually, he was successful in holding the empire together through blood and violence.

The prophet of Islam's most faithful followers and even his own family soon turned on each other as well. There were four caliphs (leaders) in the first twenty-five years, each of which was a trusted companion of his. Three of these four were murdered. The third caliph was murdered by those allied with the son of the first caliph. The fourth caliph was murdered in the midst of a conflict with the fifth caliph, who began a 100-year dynasty of excess and debauchery that was brought to an end in a gruesome, widespread bloodbath by descendents of Muhammad’s uncle (who was not even a Muslim).

Muhammad’s own daughter, Fatima, and his son-in-law, Ali, who both survived the pagan hardship during the Meccan years safe and sound, did not survive Islam after the death of Muhammad. Fatima died of stress from persecution within three months, and Ali was later assassinated by Muslim rivals. Their son (Muhammad’s grandson) was killed in battle with the faction that became today’s Sunnis. His people became Shias. The relatives and personal friends of Muhammad were mixed into both warring groups, which then fractured further into hostile sub-divisions as Islam expanded.

Muslim apologists, who like to say that is impossible for today's terrorists to be Muslim when they kill fellow Muslims, would have a very tough time explaining the war between Fatima's followers and Aisha to a knowledgeable audience. Muhammad explicitly held up both his favorite daughter and his favorite wife as model Muslim women, yet they were invoked respectively by each side in the violent civil war that followed his death. Which one was the prophet of God so horribly wrong about?
Buford

Hurricane, WV

#156077 Dec 15, 2012
Muhammad left his men with instructions to take the battle against Christians, Persians, Jews and polytheists (which came to include millions of unfortunate Hindus). For the next four centuries, Muslim armies steamrolled over unsuspecting neighbors, plundering them of loot and slaves, and forcing the survivors to either convert or pay tribute at the point of a sword.

Companions of Muhammad lived to see Islam declare war on every major religion in the world in just the first few decades following his death - pressing the Jihad against Hindus, Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, and Buddhists.

By the time of the Crusades (when the Europeans began fighting back), Muslims had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world by sword, from Syria to Spain, and across North Africa. Millions of Christians were enslaved by Muslims, and tens of millions of Africans. The Arab slave-trading routes would stay open for 1300 years until pressure from Christian-based countries forced Islamic nations to declare the practice illegal (in theory). To this day, the Muslim world has never apologized for the victims of Jihad and slavery.

There is not another religion in the world that consistently produces terrorism in the name of God as does Islam. The most dangerous Muslims are nearly always those who interpret the Quran most transparently. They are the fundamentalists or purists of the faith, and believe in Muhammad’s mandate to spread Islamic rule by the sword, putting to death those who will not submit. In the absence of true infidels, they will even turn on each other.

The holy texts of Islam are saturated with verses of violence and hatred toward those outside the faith, as well as the "hypocrites" (Muslims who don't act like Muslims). In sharp contrast to the Bible, which generally moves from relatively violent episodes to far more peaceful mandates, the Quran travels the exact opposite path (violence is first forbidden, then permitted, then mandatory). The handful of earlier verses that speak of tolerance are overwhelmed by an avalanche of later ones that carry a much different message. While Old Testament verses of blood and guts are generally bound by historical context within the text itself, Quranic imperatives to violence usually appear open-ended and subject to personal interpretation.

From the history of the faith to its most sacred writings, those who want to believe in "peaceful Islam" have a lot more to ignore than do the terrorists. By any objective measure, the "Religion of Peace" has been the harshest, bloodiest religion the world has ever known. In Islam there is no peace unless Muslims have power - and even then...
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uhuh

Sevilla, Spain

#156078 Dec 15, 2012
ObadYah hid 100 prophets inside caves (I Kings); what revelations did they receive from God?

the prophets Nathan, Ahiyah, Iddo, Shemaiah, Gad and Yehu each had their own book (II Chr); what was written down?

"It has been taught: Many prophets arose for Israel, double the number of Israelites who came out of Egypt (600000x2). But only the prophecy which was deemed necessary for future generations was written down, and that which did not was not written" (Megillah 14a)

maybe the coming of Jesus and Muhammad was foretold in one of those lost prophecies? hmmm

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