Who Is Allah?

Who Is Allah?

There are 256289 comments on the The Brussels Journal story from Aug 24, 2007, titled Who Is Allah?. In it, The Brussels Journal reports that:

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Brussels Journal.

MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#152977 Oct 17, 2012
hello people wrote:
<quoted text>
you talk and post a lot and I don't think a lot of people read you because it is long and boring and someone else post. Just speak from what you believe if you do believe in one lol.
I don't think dr adel elsaie or you or anyone knows the truth about God and religion. The only thing you write is what you were thought and you want people to believe you. which won't happen. I dont like religion fanatics from all religion that tells people what to believe. Let people be who they are. dont shove your believe into others.
just like they want you to follow Islam in saudi.why? will your prophet do what the saudi people like not welcoming people if they are not muslim? I just dont like how people shove their believe to others to follow or you are not welcome in my house. it sucks lol
I do not post more than a page and a half from Dr. Elsie 's book and that is not much by going standard on this thread.

I only reply a few post which are addressed to me and Ignore many more than I answer.

That is also not much by going standard on this thread.

I do not know what are you complaining about.

If you have any objection on Dr. Elsaie's book or argument, place it before us.

Just making a general statement that he does not know anything about truth is not logical, reasonable or scholarly.
David

San Diego, CA

#152978 Oct 18, 2012
Thank you MUQ very informative link / interesting book
wow

San Diego, CA

#152979 Oct 18, 2012
The following story occurred on the Internet through one of the chat programs (Freetel) in January 1999. It is a real dialogue between a Christian and a Muslim. The story centers on Derek’s realization of today’s Christianity and his subsequent conversion to Islam. This Christian-Muslim dialogue has been edited for readability and for the clarity of its message.
Abdullah: Hello there! How are you man?
Derek: Hello! Well, how are you?
Abdullah: I’m fine and you?
Derek: I’m fine, thanks.
Abdullah: Where are you from?
Derek: I’m from L.A.(Los Angeles).
Abdullah: The land of Hollywood!
Derek: Well, that’s right. Have you ever been to L.A?
Abdullah: No, never. Why are you calling yourself ‘Black Magic’?
Derek: It’s just a nickname, man!
Abdullah: I see.
Derek: Where are you from? Are you an Arab?
Abdullah: Yes, I am from Saudi Arabia but I’m in Qatar now. What is your name?
Derek: My name is Derek. What’s your name?
Abdullah: My name is Abdullah.
Derek: What does Abdullah mean?
Abdullah: Abdullah means the servant of Allah and it is the function of each individual on the face of the earth to serve God according to what God wants from us. By the way, Allah is the proper name of God.
Derek: How do we know what God or Allah wants from us?
Abdullah: All of this is outlined in the Quran and the Sunnah (traditions and approved actions of Prophet Muhammad, may the mercy and blessings of God be upon him. These are the two major sources of guidance in Islam. Could you please tell me more about yourself? How old are you?
Derek: I am 19 years old, black and very much interested in knowing more about Islam. First of all, what should a person do or believe in, to become a Muslim?
Abdullah: Very easy brother, you just say that there is no one worthy of worship but God and Muhammad is His Messenger, and you become Muslim.
Derek: You mean Muhammad is his apostle? But as a Christian or non-Muslim, this sentence is not enough to make it clear to me.
Abdullah: O.K. God sent Muhammad, as His last Prophet and Messenger and revealed the Quran to him as the final revelation to mankind. God said that He perfected His religion and called it Islam (see Quran 5:3). Islam means peaceful submission to the Will of God.
Derek: I see.
Abdullah: Yes, and unfortunately, most Christians don’t know or they deny that the coming of Prophet Muhammad, is foretold in their scriptures (See Deuteronomy 18:18; 21:21; Psalms 118: 22-23; Isaiah 42:1-13; Habakuk 3:3-4; Matthew 21:42-43; John 14:12-17, 15:26,27; 16:5-16). Muslim theologians have stated that the person who is described by Jesus to come after him (in the above verses) is Muhammad.
Derek: O.K. Fine, but why was there a need for another Prophet after Jesus and another revelation after the Bible?
Abdullah: All of the Prophets came to teach their peoples the Oneness of God. In the case of Jesus he was only sent as Messenger to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (see Matt. 15:24). What happened was that all of these Prophets were not well received by the majority of the people. For instance, they started tampering with the teachings of Moses and Jesus, may God exalt their mention (see Quran 2:79). That is why God sent Muhammad, with the last Message,(i.e., the Quran), to bring all of mankind back to the belief in and worship of One God, without partners or intermediaries.
Derek: Is the Quran similar to the Bible? I mean, what is it composed of?
Abdullah: The Quran came as the last code emphasizing the same pure monotheistic teachings of Jesus defending all the previous pure teachings of monotheistic beliefs and clarifying who Jesus was and who his mother was, showing that they were no more than great people.
wow

San Diego, CA

#152980 Oct 18, 2012
Derek: O.K then, how can we be sure that the Quran has remained the same since the time of Prophet Muhammad?
Abdullah: God Himself has guaranteed that He would guard the Quran and keep it free from corruption (see Quran 15:9). Hence, the real and pure words of God are found in the Quran which was revealed in Arabic, the language of the people of Muhammad. Since then, not an iota has changed. This is unlike what has happened in the other religions. For example, if you look at the Bible you find a lot of versions; the name Bible itself is indicative of those changes because Bible means a collection of books from different writers.
Derek: But didn’t God call it the Bible?
Abdullah: God calls the Scripture revealed to Jesus “Injeel” in the Quran, for which the closest name in the Bible would be the word Gospel. The Bible was written many years after the time of Jesus in a language that was alien to Jesus -- it was Latin Vulgate, a language that he never spoke. Isn’t this strange? Interestingly, most of what was written in the New Testament was authored by Paul, who, according to James, the brother of Jesus in the Bible, had a polluted mind because he changed and contradicted most of the teachings of Jesus .
Derek: I think you know more about Christianity than the Pope does!
Abdullah: You are wrong by saying that I know more than the Pope. I have simply investigated the Bible with an inquiring mind, which is something that all Christians should do.
Derek: Is there any English version of the Holy Quran?
Abdullah: There are many translations of the meanings of the Quran. The Quran was revealed in Arabic, which means that the words of God are in Arabic. The translations are the words of human beings relating to the meanings of the Quran to the non-Arabic speaking masses.
Derek: How does the Quran define God to mankind or how does the Muslim perceive God?
Abdullah: Allah is the One and Only True God, and the Creator of all. He does not beget nor is He begotten. He is unlike His creation in every respect. He is the All-Knowing, The Powerful, The Merciful, The Irresistible, and The King of kings.
Derek: But it is somehow difficult for me to perceive God as being the same as His creatures.
Abdullah: You are absolutely right to have difficulty perceiving this, because human beings have a limited capacity. This is why God sent revelations to His Prophets and Messengers to tell us who He is. So if you want to know who God is, just read the Quran.
Derek: Christians believe that Jesus was sent for the salvation of all mankind. If this is not true, then the foundation of Christianity is faulty. Right? What do you think?
Abdullah: That’s correct. The Christians of today are following what Paul taught and also tend to follow what the priests tell them to do instead of following what Jesus said.
Derek: Kindly explain the concept of salvation through the crucifixion of Jesus.
wow

San Diego, CA

#152981 Oct 18, 2012
Abdullah: In Christianity, the Doctrine of Original Sin is the reason that there is a need for salvation through Jesus’ crucifixion. However, this doctrine was invented by Paul and it is strongly negated in the Old Testament (see Ezekiel 18:20, Jeremiah 31:30, Deut. 24:16). This doctrine is an attempt to escape the responsibility of righteousness with the belief that punishment is given to someone else to release us from our burden of sins (see Ephesians 1:7, Romans 4:25, 10:9, Corinthians 15:21). In the Quran, every soul is responsible for its own deeds, good or bad (see Quran 74:38, 41:46, 3:25, 6:154).
Derek: What about the crucifixion itself?
Abdullah: The Bible says Jesus cried out in a loud voice beseeching God for help on the cross:“My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”(Matt. 27:46) Does that sound like Jesus to you?
Derek: No, then what about Jesus’ appearance to his disciples after the crucifixion?
Abdullah: Jesus didn’t die on the cross nor was he resurrected. If he were resurrected, then he would have come to his disciples in a spiritual body. As shown in Luke 24:36-43, he met them with his physical body after the event of his alleged crucifixion. In the Quran, it says that Jesus was not crucified, but it was someone else who was made to look like him (see Quran 4:156-158).
Derek: How did the story of the crucifixion of Jesus get into the Bible then?
Abdullah: Once again, Paul was responsible (see Timothy 2:8 and Romans 5:10).
Derek: Well, I very deep in my heart, believe that God can never look like His creation nor does He do what they do. What I believe is that God is the Perfect One who is very much different from everything we see or touch. In other words, I think the writer can never look like his book.
Abdullah: You are right. There is nothing comparable to God (see Quran 112:4). The Prophets came with a very clear message to worship God alone, without any partners or intercessors. However, Paul took pagan beliefs and practices from the Romans and mixed them with the teachings of Jesus . Consequently, Paul was mostly responsible for elevating Jesus to the status of Son of God (see Acts. 9:20) and god.
Derek: Yes. Now I remember. The first Commandments is:“Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord.”
Abdullah: You’re right. That’s in Mark 12:29. Moreover, the Quran confirms that God is One (which means):“Say He is Allah, the One and Only (God).”(Quran 112:1)
Derek: What you are saying makes perfect sense. This is just incredible! You mean that for almost 2000 years what the Christians have been following is wrong?
Eric

Downers Grove, IL

#152982 Oct 18, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>

If you have any objection on Dr. Elsaie's book or argument, place it before us.
We have in the past. And you have either ignored our objections, or you have told us to take it up with Elsaie.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#152983 Oct 18, 2012
NotQuiter wrote:
<quoted text>Now just wait a minute!'We' are not all in agreement ... lol!
lol...
Please join us!
lol....
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#152984 Oct 18, 2012
NotQuiter wrote:
<quoted text>Look here, there is a lot of cholesterol in cheese.
I was about to suggest "skinny cheese dip"...but if you take the cheese out of it...we will be back to river jordan and to the way they really "dipped"..lol
I hope this goes over the heads of a few and that is intentional...lol
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#152985 Oct 18, 2012
Peter wrote:
Embrace Jesus and live a life with a real god that demands peace and dignity for every human being .
Jesus is not worth embracing. Only the LORD Almighty God has to be embraced, not his SLAVE Jesus.

By the way, Jesus himself did not live a life of peace and dignity. You know that, don't you?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#152986 Oct 18, 2012
NotQuiter wrote:
<quoted text>Look here, there is a lot of cholesterol in cheese.
Cheese has good cholesterol, NQ.

I would like you to be the 4th disciple of Jake. You can eat lots of fish and bread.

Please note that Christ Jake has not asked any Christian to abandon Jesus.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#152987 Oct 18, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
big deal!
instead of answering a single serious question you pick holes in typos.
Ex Humed,

It wasn't a typo; it was your typical hyperbole.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#152988 Oct 18, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>
Ex.......... doubt it.
Hello CATHOLIC butt-urd!
Why don't you answer anything?
-What happened to the ear of the poor servant of the JEWISH priest in Matt..Mark and John? Did it get off the floor, moved back into position to heal itself?lol..
You pagan books are full of inconsistencies but I have no intention of pointing them out all in one go.
- can you point out he trinity or even jesus from the list i provided
- give us a DIRECT quote from Jesus claiming divinity
- why did BJ forgive the paralytic (Mark) but could not forgive others while he was on the tree/pole/cross? was his powers being drained away with the blood?

- CAN YOU see the inconsistency and sheer absurdity? He is able to "forgive" in Mark 2:5&2:10/Matt 9:2 & 9:6/Luke 5:20 & 5.24.....BUT pleads with GOD to forgive "them" in Luke 23:34!!!(Is he a minigod who is only allowed to forgive minor sinners and cripples or paralytic drunks? and only GOD can forgive the big baddies/jews/romans??)

- why was BJ ignorant/superstitious about paralysis? It has nothing to do with "sin"!! Why did BJ prove he could forgive sins by getting the paralytic to walk. Rumour has it that the paralytic was a DRUNK!
When the "evil spirit(alcohol)" finally left his body he got up and walked!!!
- Tell us about Peter's qualifications to be the first pope..slicing ear (butcher? I thought he was a fisherman)? unable to catch fish (or was he a butcher!) and needed Jesus to help him? lying about Jesus? Fleeing from Jesus? marriage?....or something else?

You haven't answered loads of others either.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#152989 Oct 18, 2012
NotQuiter wrote:
<quoted text>So why is it that God would allow his greatest enemy (Satan the Devil) to torture ENDLESSLY those He does not like, as the thought goes?
Where in YOUR Bible does it say that "God would allow his greatest enemy (Satan the Devil) to torture ENDLESSLY those He does not like, as the thought goes?"
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#152990 Oct 18, 2012
2:190 "Fight, in the way of Allah, against those who wage war upon you, but do not commit aggression by attacking first. Allah does not like aggressors."

"Torture him until you extract what he has." ~ Mohammad, Fighting in the Way of Allah
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#152991 Oct 18, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>
Ex Humed,
It wasn't a typo; it was your typical hyperbole.
Catholic butt-urd...
I shall deal with your ignorance as and when it suits me..
Allow me to correct you...I said "they" chopped "ears" off!!!
Why do you think i said that?
Folks here know that you are an ignorant spammy clown.

You are like a dog barking at the moon after chasing parked cars!!

Just answer the questions you fool....and try to earn a tiny bit of credibility.
Buford

Scott Depot, WV

#152992 Oct 18, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello CATHOLIC butt-urd!
Why don't you answer anything?
-What happened to the ear of the poor servant of the JEWISH priest in Matt..Mark and John? Did it get off the floor, moved back into position to heal itself?lol..
You pagan books are full of inconsistencies but I have no intention of pointing them out all in one go.
- can you point out he trinity or even jesus from the list i provided
- give us a DIRECT quote from Jesus claiming divinity
- why did BJ forgive the paralytic (Mark) but could not forgive others while he was on the tree/pole/cross? was his powers being drained away with the blood?
- CAN YOU see the inconsistency and sheer absurdity? He is able to "forgive" in Mark 2:5&2:10/Matt 9:2 & 9:6/Luke 5:20 & 5.24.....BUT pleads with GOD to forgive "them" in Luke 23:34!!!(Is he a minigod who is only allowed to forgive minor sinners and cripples or paralytic drunks? and only GOD can forgive the big baddies/jews/romans??)
- why was BJ ignorant/superstitious about paralysis? It has nothing to do with "sin"!! Why did BJ prove he could forgive sins by getting the paralytic to walk. Rumour has it that the paralytic was a DRUNK!
When the "evil spirit(alcohol)" finally left his body he got up and walked!!!
- Tell us about Peter's qualifications to be the first pope..slicing ear (butcher? I thought he was a fisherman)? unable to catch fish (or was he a butcher!) and needed Jesus to help him? lying about Jesus? Fleeing from Jesus? marriage?....or something else?
You haven't answered loads of others either.
Just like bmz of Singapore, you make it up as you go...
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#152993 Oct 18, 2012
Peter wrote:
A call to the muslim world, throw islam and allah into the toilet, islam is a trash bin , a collection of murderers , slaughterer s, thieves , mass killers like bashar assad, crazy dictators like murdered kahdafhi from libya , Embrace Jesus and live a life with a real god that demands peace and dignity for every human being .
Who is the REAL Jesus from this list so I can embrace him:
Please him out. Thanks....

1. Jesus= father of son of "GOD"
2. Jesus= father of son of "god the father"
3. Jesus= ghost of father of son of "GOD"
4. Jesus= ghost of father of son of "god the father"
5. Jesus= spirit of father of son of "GOD"

6. Jesus= spirit of father of son of "god the father"
7. Jesus= son of man (son of Adam)
8. Jesus= son of man (son of David)
9. Jesus= son of man (son of Joseph)
10. Jesus= son of "GOD" (who encompasses god the father)
11. Jesus= son of "god the father" (who is part of GOD)
12. Jesus= son of god the Holy Spirit (who is part of GOD)
13. Jesus= son of god the holy ghost (who is part of GOD)
14. Jesus= ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
15. Jesus= ghost of son of man (son of David)
16. Jesus= ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
17. Jesus= ghost of son of "GOD"
18. Jesus= ghost of son of "god the father"
19. Jesus= ghost of son of "god the holy spirit"
20. Jesus= ghost of son of "god the holy ghost"
21. Jesus= spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
22. Jesus= spirit of son of man (son of David)
23. Jesus= spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
24. Jesus= spirit of son of "GOD"
25. Jesus= spirit of son of "god the father"
26. Jesus= spirit of son of "god the holy spirit"
27. Jesus= spirit of son of "god the holy ghost"
28. Jesus= ghost of spirit of father of son of "GOD"
29. Jesus= ghost of spirit of father of son of "god the father"
30. Jesus= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Adam)
31. Jesus= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of David)
32. Jesus= ghost of spirit of son of man (son of Joseph)
33. Jesus= ghost of spirit of son of "GOD"
34. Jesus= ghost of spirit of son of "god the father"
35. Jesus= ghost of spirit of son of god the holy spirit
36. Jesus= ghost of spirit of son of god the holy ghost
37. Jesus= spirit of ghost father of son of "GOD"
38. Jesus= spirit of ghost of father of son of "god the father"
39. Jesus= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Adam)
40. Jesus= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of David)
41. Jesus= spirit of ghost of son of man (son of Joseph)
42. Jesus= spirit of ghost of son of "GOD"
43. Jesus= spirit of ghost of son of "god the father"
44. Jesus= spirit of ghost of son of god the holy spirit
45. Jesus= spirit of ghost of son of god the holy ghost
46. Jesus= "Risen" Jesus
47. Jesus= "Risen" son of man (son of Adam)
48. Jesus= "Risen" son of man (son of David)
49. Jesus= "Risen" son of man (son of Joseph)
50. Jesus= "Risen" son of "God"
51. Jesus= "Risen" son of "god the father"
52. Jesus= "Risen" son of "god the holy spirit"
53. Jesus= "Risen" son of "god the holy ghost"
54. Jesus= "Lord" of St Paul
55. Jesus= "Christ" of St Paul
56. Jesus= Millions of "Jesus" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
57. Jesus= Millions of "Holy Spirits" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
58. Jesus= Millions of "Holy Ghosts" in different shapes and sizes inside every "Christian" in every nation and language
59. Jesus= The Jesus in heaven sitting on his own right hand watching himself VINDICTIVELY making footstool of enemies.

60. Jesus= ALL of the above
61. Jesus= NONE of the above
62. Jesus= Any more to be added to the above (*********

Thanks.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#152994 Oct 18, 2012
Not forgetting the Jesus who is allegedly the Father in John 14 as follows:
Allow me to represent John 14, that was written by many "Johnnies":
John 14:

2 In my House are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you?
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also.
4 And you know the way to where I am going.”

5 Thomas said to him,“Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?”

6 Father said to him,“I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to me except through me.

7 If you had known me, you would have known me also. From now on you do know me and have seen me.”

8 Philip said to him,“Lord, show us yourself, and it is enough for us.”

9 Father said to him,“Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen me. How can you say,‘Show us yourself’?

10 Do you not believe that I am in me and I am in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but I who dwell in me do my works.

11 Believe me that I am in me and I am in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves.

12“Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going me.

13 Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that I may be glorified in the Son.

14 If you ask me anything in my name, I will do it.

15 “If you love me, you will keep my commandments.
16 And I will ask myself, and I will give you another Helper, to be with you forever,

18“I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while and the world will see me no more, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live.

20 In that day you will know that I am in me, and you in me, and I in you.

21 Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by me, and I will love him and manifest myself to him.”

22Judas (not Iscariot) said to him,“Lord, how is it that you will manifest yourself to us, and not to the world?”

23 The Father answered him,“If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and I will love him, and "we" will come to him and make our home with him.
24 Whoever does not love me does not keep my words. And the word that you hear is not mine but me who sent me.

25 “These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom I will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

AMAZING IS IT NOT?
THE EDUCATED MANGOD LEAVES NO WRITTEN INSTRUCTIONS AND CAUSES THE DEATH OF MILLIONS OF JEWS AS CHRIST KILLERS, INCLUDING THOSE IN GAS CHAMBERS, WHILE THE UNLETTERED MAN LEAVES A BEAUTIFUL BOOK OF GOOD NEWS KNOWLEDGE AND GUIDANCE.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#152995 Oct 18, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Just like bmz of Singapore, you make it up as you go...
Don't give your opinions but answer them dear CATHOLIC butt-urd...
Hello CATHOLIC butt-urd!
Why don't you answer anything?
-What happened to the ear of the poor servant of the JEWISH priest in Matt..Mark and John? Did it get off the floor, moved back into position to heal itself?lol..
You pagan books are full of inconsistencies but I have no intention of pointing them out all in one go.
- can you point out he trinity or even jesus from the list i provided
- give us a DIRECT quote from Jesus claiming divinity
- why did BJ forgive the paralytic (Mark) but could not forgive others while he was on the tree/pole/cross? was his powers being drained away with the blood?
- CAN YOU see the inconsistency and sheer absurdity? He is able to "forgive" in Mark 2:5&2:10/Matt 9:2 & 9:6/Luke 5:20 & 5.24.....BUT pleads with GOD to forgive "them" in Luke 23:34!!!(Is he a minigod who is only allowed to forgive minor sinners and cripples or paralytic drunks? and only GOD can forgive the big baddies/jews/romans??)
- why was BJ ignorant/superstitious about paralysis? It has nothing to do with "sin"!! Why did BJ prove he could forgive sins by getting the paralytic to walk. Rumour has it that the paralytic was a DRUNK!
When the "evil spirit(alcohol)" finally left his body he got up and walked!!!
- Tell us about Peter's qualifications to be the first pope..slicing ear (butcher? I thought he was a fisherman)? unable to catch fish (or was he a butcher!) and needed Jesus to help him? lying about Jesus? Fleeing from Jesus? marriage?....or something else?
You haven't answered loads of others either.
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#152996 Oct 18, 2012
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>Just like bmz of Singapore, you make it up as you go...
A bunch of liars made it up..and i am quoting them:
Now respond using your non existent knowledge:

- CAN YOU see the inconsistency and sheer absurdity? He is able to "forgive" in Mark 2:5&2:10/Matt 9:2 & 9:6/Luke 5:20 & 5.24.....BUT pleads with GOD to forgive "them" in Luke 23:34!!!(Is he a minigod who is only allowed to forgive minor sinners and cripples or paralytic drunks? and only GOD can forgive the big baddies/jews/romans??)
- why was BJ ignorant/superstitious about paralysis? It has nothing to do with "sin"!! Why did BJ prove he could forgive sins by getting the paralytic to walk

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