I would rather say horse dung or manure, I'll have to work on that. Of course, it means the same thing. however, like violent video games, such things do have an affect on the observer. Now, getting back to the question.<quoted text>
It is all horse shit, NQ.
hahaha, and ROFL!! Again, reminding me of those far eastern or druggies like Carlos Castenada, if you've ever heard of him, a "professor" at some New Mexican college, I believe, who went to the Indians and took drugs to experience out of body experiences. Even IF they can swear and testify things like that happen, it is not from God.<quoted text>
Everyone has an out-of-the-body experience almost every night. It happens when a person dreams in his deep sleep. In the dream, one is already out of one's live body. That is all this junk and stuff is about.
All this nonsense was generated by philosophers, who helped establish the trinity, yogis, fakirs, sufis and monks, etc.
Once a monk told me, "When I bathe, I see myself standing on the edge of a cliff, looking at my own body washing itself."
I have been learning now about Pope Pius XII's involvement in the Vietnam War. He declared he had a "visit" from the Virgin Mary and proclaimed it to the masses, whilst observing a miracle of the sun. That got the faithful all excited, and ready to go to war against communism in Vietnam, which stoked the fires of many willing to kill in order to preserve Catholicism in that country. Now I am learning that some priests had private armies there. Can you imagine? But power of the devil or hoaxes are the same thing as flying nuns and priests and worse, but enough to be misleading. But in answer to Borg's question, or rather, assertion, as I looked at the cloud formation yesterday, I thought, who could make such beautiful things but God? Why are they so beautiful to our eyes? I believe there is a Creator, and I believe He can communicate with mankind. Are there doubts? I won't say I never have questions, fears, or doubts. But that is why I place such high value on the things I have learned from and about the Bible, valued bmz. I never thought I could give up smoking and other things that were death-dealing but addictive. But I did because of my study of the Bible and learning to have trust in God. Of course, that is MY experience, and I do thank God that I was able to do these things, I attribute such things to the help of God. I know some do these things without turning to God. I could not, and therefore I thank Him for this, among other things. I hope if for some reason we ever stop communicating, you will remember our conversations.:-)<quoted text>
These are all cock and bull stories. People, who engage in intellectual masturbation on MetaPhysics, are victims of this hallucination.
It is a hoax, well received by ignorant fools.