Winston Churchill on Islam:

Winston Churchill on Islam:

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passerby

San Francisco, CA

#1 Aug 3, 2007
Winston Churchill on Islam:

How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.

A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it.

No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.

-- Sir Winston Spencer Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).
Danetoo

Portsmouth, UK

#2 Aug 3, 2007
and more and more people are joining old winston in his opinions ..

he was right about the nazis .. and he is definitely also right about islam ...
passerby

San Francisco, CA

#3 Aug 3, 2007
Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it.

Those M.D. bombers a good example
Omar

Houston, TX

#4 Aug 3, 2007
oh that's rich.. a british leader criticizing the muslim world
Danetoo

UK

#5 Aug 3, 2007
Omar wrote:
oh that's rich.. a british leader criticizing the muslim world
Exactly what we feel when muslims living in the west ...(ring any bells?) are criticizing our way of life ...

Because when you live here, you are no longer "the muslim world" ... you should change to meet OUR requirements, and not us changing to meet yours ...

“yummy!!”

Since: Dec 06

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#6 Aug 3, 2007
Danetoo wrote:
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Exactly what we feel when muslims living in the west ...(ring any bells?) are criticizing our way of life ...
Because when you live here, you are no longer "the muslim world" ... you should change to meet OUR requirements, and not us changing to meet yours ...
Well said Danetoo.
Winston Churchill was a great man and our country could do with some more leaders of his type tooday.
Muslim

Ashgrove, Australia

#7 Aug 4, 2007
churchill, the same guy that bombed french allied ships due to strategic expediency.

What a bastion of morality!

ahahahaha

churchill was an imperialist dog, that resented Islam because it taught Muslims to fight british colonialism, and to resist oppression.
Muslim

Ashgrove, Australia

#8 Aug 4, 2007
"A quote from an 1899 book by Winston Churchill, "The River War", in which he describes Muslims he apparently observed during Kitchener's campaign in the Sudan"

Meanwhile, the worms have consumed the filthy churchill, as well as his bones. And he suffers agony in his fiery grave.

Since: Aug 07

Dubai, UAE

#9 Aug 4, 2007
2.111. And they say: "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."

112. Nay,-whoever submits His whole self to Allah and is a doer of good,- He will get his reward with his Lord; on such shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

113. The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught (To stand) upon." Yet they (Profess to) study the (same) Book. Like unto their word is what those say who know not; but Allah will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment.

2.177. It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness- to believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the Allah.fearing.

Islam is peace
Express

Pakistan

#10 Aug 4, 2007
Muslims turn to the Kibah when praying and to the Magrib(west ) for their other needs.Both directions are the favourites.
Danetoo

UK

#11 Aug 4, 2007
Muslim wrote:
"A quote from an 1899 book by Winston Churchill, "The River War", in which he describes Muslims he apparently observed during Kitchener's campaign in the Sudan"
Meanwhile, the worms have consumed the filthy churchill, as well as his bones. And he suffers agony in his fiery grave.
So why are you living in the decadent horrible west with descendants of the British???

You are nothing but a bastard result of arabs mating ...

And no, Churchill's bones may be rotting and disintegrating, but his spirit lives on in the British people ... the bulldog spirit that shall prevail over bastards such as you ... that only live for death ... worshipping death .. wishing for hell for others ...

“yummy!!”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#12 Aug 4, 2007
Danetoo wrote:
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So why are you living in the decadent horrible west with descendants of the British???
You are nothing but a bastard result of arabs mating ...
And no, Churchill's bones may be rotting and disintegrating, but his spirit lives on in the British people ... the bulldog spirit that shall prevail over bastards such as you ... that only live for death ... worshipping death .. wishing for hell for others ...
You're on good form today. Keep it up:)
mr Giblets

India

#13 Aug 4, 2007
Muslim wrote:
churchill, the same guy that bombed french allied ships due to strategic expediency.
What a bastion of morality!
ahahahaha
churchill was an imperialist dog, that resented Islam because it taught Muslims to fight british colonialism, and to resist oppression.
why do you live in Australia?
mr Giblets

India

#14 Aug 4, 2007
Express wrote:
Muslims turn to the Kibah when praying and to the Magrib(west ) for their other needs.Both directions are the favourites.
you can look up Uranus for all I care.
mr Giblets

India

#15 Aug 4, 2007
Omar wrote:
oh that's rich.. a british leader criticizing the muslim world
oh yes, a MOSLEM living in the USA criticising a western leader! Churchill is greatly honoured in the USA, and when you live in a non-islamic country, be careful not to insult the hosts.
Danetoo

UK

#16 Aug 4, 2007
annab3lla wrote:
<quoted text>You're on good form today. Keep it up:)
THanx Annabella .. AND you too !!... LOL

your comments are really good ... and sometimes fantastically funny too ... you have the british spirit that I so admire and like here ...
equality

London, UK

#17 Aug 4, 2007
Danetoo wrote:
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THanx Annabella .. AND you too !!... LOL
your comments are really good ... and sometimes fantastically funny too ... you have the british spirit that I so admire and like here ...
You call that british spirit, you people are just sick and clear racists. I was like that till i found islam. Wake up my fellow countrymen, get a purpose to your life.

Since: Aug 07

Dubai, UAE

#18 Aug 4, 2007
[O you who believe! Stand out for justice, as witnesses to Allah, and even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor.](An-Nisaa’ 4:134)

[O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety and fear Allah, for Allah is well acquainted with all that you do.](Al-Ma’idah 5:8)

[And thus We (Allah) made of you (O Muslims) a justly balanced community that you might bear witness (to the truth) to humankind and the Apostle might bear witness over you.](Al-Baqarah 2:143

Islam is peace

“yummy!!”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#19 Aug 4, 2007
equality wrote:
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You call that british spirit, you people are just sick and clear racists. I was like that till i found islam. Wake up my fellow countrymen, get a purpose to your life.
Actually I'm not racist. I have friends from lots of ethnic origin and I do charity work for people that include those that are not white english.
It is the Islamic goal of trying to bring the society in which I live into line with its own restrictive beliefs that I have a problem with.
If any one is racist here it is you with your intolerance and hatred for those that don't follow your Allah.
Templar

Chisinau, Moldova

#20 Aug 4, 2007
equality wrote:
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You call that british spirit, you people are just sick and clear racists. I was like that till i found islam. Wake up my fellow countrymen, get a purpose to your life.
Another John the ex-baptist on this forum???

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