American Judge: Muslims Allowed to Attack People for Insulting Mohammad

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LBer

Long Beach, CA

#1 Feb 24, 2012
Mind boggling! The most interesting part to me is that the judge is a Muslim convert...truly illustrating the ability of believers in Mohammed to delude themselves...take note, and beware...

Article:

http://news.yahoo.com/penn-judge-muslims-allo...

Jonathon Turley, a law professor at George Washington University, reports on a disturbing case in which a state judge in Pennsylvania threw out an assault case involving a Muslim attacking an atheist for insulting the Prophet Muhammad.

Judge Mark Martin, an Iraq war veteran and a convert to Islam, threw the case out in what appears to be an invocation of Sharia law.

The incident occurred at the Mechanicsburg, Pa., Halloween parade where Ernie Perce, an atheist activist, marched as a zombie Muhammad. Talaag Elbayomy, a Muslim, attacked Perce, and he was arrested by police.

Judge Martin threw the case out on the grounds that Elbayomy was obligated to attack Perce because of his culture and religion. Judge Martin stated that the First Amendment of the Constitution does not permit people to provoke other people. He also called Perce, the plaintiff in the case, a "doofus." In effect, Perce was the perpetrator of the assault, in Judge Martin's view, and Elbayomy the innocent. The Sharia law that the Muslim attacker followed trumped the First Amendment.

Words almost fail.

The Washington Post recently reported on an appeals court decision to maintain an injunction to stop the implementation of an amendment to the Oklahoma state constitution that bans the use of Sharia law in state courts. The excuse the court gave was that there was no documented case of Sharia law being invoked in an American court. Judge Martin would seem to have provided that example, which should provide fodder for the argument as the case goes through the federal courts.

The text of the First Amendment could not be clearer. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof-" It does not say "unless somebody, especially a Muslim, is angered." Indeed Judge Martin specifically decided to respect the establishment of a religion, in this case Islam.

That Judge Martin should be removed from the bench and severely sanctioned goes almost without saying. He clearly had no business hearing the case in the first place, since he seems to carry an emotional bias. He also needs to retake a constitutional law course. Otherwise, a real can of worms has been opened up, permitting violence against people exercising free speech.

It should be noted that another atheist, dressed as a Zombie Pope, was marching beside the Zombie Muhammad. No outraged Catholics attacked him.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#2 Feb 24, 2012
Call or email the politicians that are running the now disgraced state of Pennsylvania and show your disapproval for this travesty.

Contact the PA Governors office at:
Governor's Office
225 Main Capitol Building
Harrisburg, Pennsylvania 17120

Phone:(717) 787-2500
Fax:(717) 772-8284

For the email address:
http://www.governor.state.pa.us/portal/server...
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Contact the PA Attorney General:

Mailing Address:
Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General
16th Floor, Strawberry Square
Harrisburg, PA 17120
Phone:
717-787-3391

For the email address:
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/theoffice.aspx...
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House of Representatives
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/hom...

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State Senate
http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/hom...

“Alea iacta est!”

Since: Oct 06

Oh it's ON!

#4 Feb 24, 2012
'It should be noted that another atheist, dressed as a Zombie Pope, was marching beside the Zombie Muhammad. No outraged Catholics attacked him.'

roflmao..that's just funny.

Although this topic is NOT funny. Here is another example of what I've been trying to get Americans to understand, who are in the dark. The Justice system is our weakest link to undermining our constitution. Leftists, Liberals who believe our Constitution is 'flexible' have been slowly making their way into the Judiciary and slowly working towards redefining our Constitution as we know it.

“Alea iacta est!”

Since: Oct 06

Oh it's ON!

#5 Feb 25, 2012

“Proud Southerner”

Since: May 07

Israel, betach b'HaShem!

#6 Feb 25, 2012
That's sad.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#7 Feb 25, 2012
According to Judge Martin:

"'Islam is not just a religion, it’s their culture, their culture. It’s their very essence their very being ... what you have done is you have completely trashed their essence, their being. They find it very very very offensive. I’m a Muslim, I find it offensive. But you have that right, but you’re way outside your boundaries or first amendment rights."

How so, if the plaintiff does indeed have that right?

"'... In many Arabic speaking countries something like this is definitely against the law there. In their society in fact it can be punishable by death and it frequently is in their society.'"

However, in American society, portraying the Prophet Mohammad as a "zombie" is not punishable by death, or anything else under the First Amendment, nor is it even against the law in most English-speaking countries.

“Alea iacta est!”

Since: Oct 06

Oh it's ON!

#8 Feb 25, 2012
'To make matters worse, the judge is reportedly threatening Perce with contempt for posting the audio of the hearing.

The reference to the cultural motivations for assaulting Perce seems to raise a type of cultural defense. I have spent years discussing this issue with state and federal judges on the proper role of culture in criminal and civil cases. This is not a case where I would view that defense as properly raised. There are certainly constitutional (and yes cultural) norms that must be accepted when joining this Republic. One is a commitment to free speech. If culture could trump free speech, the country would become the amalgamation of all extrinsic cultures — protecting no one by protecting everyone’s impulses. Those countries referenced by the court took a different path — a path away from civil liberties and toward religious orthodoxy. It is a poor example to raise except as an example of what we are not. The fact that this man may have formed his views in such an oppressive environment does not excuse his forcing others to adhere to his religious sentiments.

Martin’s comments also heighten concerns over the growing trend toward criminalizing anti-religious speech in the use of such standards as the Brandenburg test, a position supported by the Obama Administration.

There are legitimate uses of the culture defense. However, when it comes to free speech, that is not just our controlling constitutional right but the touchstone of our culture.

I can understand the judge’s claims of conflicting testimony on the crime –though it seems to be that the officer’s testimony and the tape would resolve those doubts. However, I view this as an extremely troubling case that raises serious questions of judicial temperament, if not misconduct.'

http://jonathanturley.org/2012/02/24/pennsylv...

“Path to Knowledge & Salvation”

Since: Nov 11

Valdez, AK

#11 Feb 25, 2012
Thanks Almighty Allah, Subhanahu wa-ta'ala for showing the true path to wise american judges.

Subhanallah Alhamdulillah Allahuakbar

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Since: Sep 09

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#12 Feb 25, 2012
Word is, paperwork has been submitted to the PA gov. office by several in the legal community asking for his removal for violating the constitutional rights of the victim. The Gov is said to be seriously considering removing Martin from the bench.

“Proud Southerner”

Since: May 07

Israel, betach b'HaShem!

#13 Feb 25, 2012
True Americans should go against turning their country into another Muslim one. one day they'll beat american women for not going with Burqua! people should defend America against sharia law. Muhammad was a pedophile.!
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#14 Feb 25, 2012
There was a similar case, a judge said a man who had beaten his wife went unpunished because "that's their culture" the verdict was reversed, I wonder what happened to that judge.

I read on another site that at this location in PA a judge does not have to have a law degree. I thought that type of frontier oversight had been fixed in all US.

Maybe he'll have to go into hiding, like the guy who sold the old catholic convent to muslims. Maybe the atheist will have to go into hiding too.
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#15 Feb 25, 2012
Might wind up with half the country in hiding for something or other.

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Valdez, AK

#16 Feb 25, 2012
more truth wrote:

Maybe the atheist will have to go into hiding too.
Thanks Almighty Allah, Subhanahu wa-ta'ala for showing the true path to wise american judges.

Subhanallah Alhamdulillah Allahuakbar

http://www.google.nl/url ...

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Valdez, AK

#17 Feb 25, 2012
The use of violence in self-defence is allowed all over the world.
Violence is to be regarded as self-defence when it is in reaction to slander of the Faith or the Prophet (pbuh).
khan

South Africa

#18 Feb 25, 2012
Zusannah wrote:
The use of violence in self-defence is allowed all over the world.
Violence is to be regarded as self-defence when it is in reaction to slander of the Faith or the Prophet (pbuh).
Well said!!

“Alea iacta est!”

Since: Oct 06

Oh it's ON!

#19 Feb 25, 2012
And neither of you two Bozos understand anything about the US Constitution and the Rights of American citizens.

This judge will be taken down because his he did NOT uphold the Constitution, which he is obliged to do.

Zusie-the-Liar will never be able to take the Oath of Allegiance without lying. But a Muslim's word is not trustworthy, so no doubt he'd take the oath, all the while lying through his teeth.
khan

South Africa

#20 Feb 25, 2012
Trisha wrote:
And neither of you two Bozos understand anything about the US Constitution and the Rights of American citizens.
This judge will be taken down because his he did NOT uphold the Constitution, which he is obliged to do.
Zusie-the-Liar will never be able to take the Oath of Allegiance without lying. But a Muslim's word is not trustworthy, so no doubt he'd take the oath, all the while lying through his teeth.
who gives a damn about the american constitution and their rites and its not like you you understand us or want to or a give a crap about our rites.and you think a americans word is trustworthy get of your high horse pls!!
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#21 Feb 25, 2012
Now they're saying the judge is not a muslim. Apparently he said if he were a muslim...

Physically attacking someone because you are offended by what he said is not self defence.

Few years ago a muslim attacked some lesbians he thought were disgraceful looking. He said they had attacked him first by what they were wearing. He claimed self defence too.

Ah, the muslim logic defies all rationality...

“Alea iacta est!”

Since: Oct 06

Oh it's ON!

#22 Feb 25, 2012
khan wrote:
<quoted text>who gives a damn about the american constitution and their rites and its not like you you understand us or want to or a give a crap about our rites.and you think a americans word is trustworthy get of your high horse pls!!
Americans give a damn.

This case is about an American Judge not upholding his vow to protect the Constitution and the rights of Americans.

oh......Wait...I forgot.... you take the short bus.....

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Since: Nov 11

Valdez, AK

#23 Feb 25, 2012
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TRM...
Trisha wrote:
<quoted text>
All the hate on this thread that I posted ...
Trisha wrote:
""" But a Muslim's word is not trustworthy... """
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TS6...
.
.
LoL
Not just a particular muslim's word!
Nope!
All of the 1.5 billions muslims' word is not trustworthy!

LoLoLoLoooooL

Trisha the muslims-hater strikes again!

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