Christian heavily fined by Algerian court

There are 20 comments on the WorthyNews story from Feb 15, 2013, titled Christian heavily fined by Algerian court. In it, WorthyNews reports that:

Mohamed Ibaouene, a Christian convert from Islam, was fined 100,000 Algerian dinars for sharing his faith with former co-worker Abdelkrim Mansouri, who filed a complaint with the National Gendarmerie in Tindouf that Ibaouene had pressured him to abandon Islam.

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Since: Feb 12

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#42 Feb 16, 2013
animals against islam wrote:
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Where is the advantage to society or to the woman who has sex outside of marriage and gives birth to a BASTARD.
Sharia law protects the woman from this disgrace and subsequent poverty.
What is the advantage to being in a society where you are married to a BASTARD that thinks you are his property and you must obey his commands? NONE

What is the advantage to being in a society where if a BASTARD does not think you are covered enough he can rape you and it is justified? NONE

Seems to be a lot of bastards in your society.

Protecting women - all women should be protected from animals...no one has a right to violate someone because he gets excited from seeing her elbow.
Khaled

San Clemente, CA

#43 Feb 16, 2013
Samantha09 wrote:
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.....Protecting women ....from seeing her elbow.
Samantha.... this is not islamic... it's definitively christian...It was during Louis XIV reign I guess.
I try kissing my elbow ... I couldn't.... I guess this is the reason why the elbow was an erotic part of the body during the dark ages...

“Tell it as it is.”

Since: Jun 12

Australia

#44 Feb 16, 2013
Khaled wrote:
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This case does not highlight the bias of sharia law... there is no sharia court in Algeria ... for that you need to go to Saoudi Arabia or Iran...
Or England.
Don't muslims already have clandestine sharia courts in America?

“Tell it as it is.”

Since: Jun 12

Australia

#45 Feb 16, 2013
Khaled wrote:
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This is "Tindouf" where the story happened... a place in the middle of the Sahara desert... There is no Sharia law courts in Algeria...
You guys ...are talking through your arses the shills who just show up to bash Islam.... get the fck out of here you are not bringing anything to the discussion...just get the fck out... Trisha and ravenclaw just go to the Islam thread and spill your sionist bile... there is nothing you can contribute in the Algerian forums...
If the story is recent... there is more than what this newspaper article is bringing....No Algerian of any faith can be prosecuted for his belief.... there is no sharia law that govern the court in Algeria and the judge who let the Berber Christian leave with just a fine did the right thing...Tindouf is not as protected as cities of the north and the terrorists can hit the town at anytime...to defuse the situation between these two aholes who wanted to catch the headlines... the judge split the apple in two... for both sides feel that they won... the christian berber sentensed to pay a fine only (miserable amount) to give satisfaction to the moslem who brought the charges... The judge did not want that his small town be the focus of the terrorists activity... I believe in his ruling the judge did not take in consideration the religious component of the dispute... There was no bribe... mister big mouth who accuse the judicial system in Algeria without proof...
Thank you for that. I can sympathise with the judge and the situation if it as you describe.

You probably don't realise it, but you have actually verified that islam is far from friendly and tolerant.

As to leaving.
What you do in your countries is your business, but we are now seeing that your lot want to impose islam on the countries they immigrate to. This now involves us and we object.

Since: Feb 12

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#46 Feb 16, 2013
Khaled wrote:
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Samantha.... this is not islamic... it's definitively christian...It was during Louis XIV reign I guess.
I try kissing my elbow ... I couldn't.... I guess this is the reason why the elbow was an erotic part of the body during the dark ages...
No it is Islam- even Abba has stated that a woman must dress properly or a muslim will get turned on and have uncontrollable sex with her because his urge is to great to be stopped. I guess allah forgot one thing when he created his mini-muslims...where the brain should have gone...oops wrong head.
Khaled

San Clemente, CA

#47 Feb 16, 2013
Old Pom wrote:
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You probably don't realise it, but you have actually verified that islam is far from friendly and tolerant.
As to leaving.
What you do in your countries is your business, but we are now seeing that your lot want to impose islam on the countries they immigrate to. This now involves us and we object.
You are wrong saying that islam is far from friendly and tolerant...If I leave the interpretation of any text to an intolerant person... you will see an intolerant society emerge... If we take the example of the US... you will automatically say that it's the most tolerant country in the world... but if you analyse the US under the rule of the neo conservatives when they were in power... your conclusion will be that was the most intolerant society I ever seen... If you check the texts (constitution) it did not change ... but the interpretation changed... the experts interpreted the constitution to fit their view...
Islam is a text only.... it depends how your interpretation is... if it's evil you will create an evil society ...
the islamic civilisation created the most exquisite society in Cordoba, spain.... before bashing a religion why you don't study it... the emigrants who moved to the west have the right to worship their religion...their descendants have the right to change the society they live in to accomodate their belief... if you have a problem with it ... move to America... you will not be persecuted for your belief...

“Tell it as it is.”

Since: Jun 12

Australia

#48 Feb 16, 2013
Khaled wrote:
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You are wrong saying that islam is far from friendly and tolerant...If I leave the interpretation of any text to an intolerant person... you will see an intolerant society emerge... If we take the example of the US... you will automatically say that it's the most tolerant country in the world... but if you analyse the US under the rule of the neo conservatives when they were in power... your conclusion will be that was the most intolerant society I ever seen... If you check the texts (constitution) it did not change ... but the interpretation changed... the experts interpreted the constitution to fit their view...
Islam is a text only.... it depends how your interpretation is... if it's evil you will create an evil society ...
the islamic civilisation created the most exquisite society in Cordoba, spain.... before bashing a religion why you don't study it... the emigrants who moved to the west have the right to worship their religion...their descendants have the right to change the society they live in to accomodate their belief... if you have a problem with it ... move to America... you will not be persecuted for your belief...
I have read the koran along with some of the innumerable hadiths.
Roughly half of it concerns the fate of non believers, that muslims are allowed, even encouraged to kill. The level of violence demanded by the oath breaker in his climb to the top is abhorrent, certainly not compatible with an apostle of "god".

As to moving.. do a reality check. Your arrogance also makes a lie of any claim to tolerance. Perhaps christians, atheists, agnostics, buddhists, etc. should move to islamic countries and demand the freedoms your lot do in the west.

You are aware that the former professor of Islamic history at Al-Azhar University, Egypt's top university, declared islam is a fraud and fled to West.

http://www.ar abicb ible.com/testimoni als/egypt/1624-mar k-gabriel-testimon y.html
Khaled

San Clemente, CA

#49 Feb 16, 2013
Old Pom wrote:
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I have read the koran along with some of the innumerable hadiths.
Roughly half of it concerns the fate of non believers, that muslims are allowed, even encouraged to kill. The level of violence demanded by the oath breaker in his climb to the top is abhorrent, certainly not compatible with an apostle of "god".
As to moving.. do a reality check. Your arrogance also makes a lie of any claim to tolerance. Perhaps christians, atheists, agnostics, buddhists, etc. should move to islamic countries and demand the freedoms your lot do in the west.
You are aware that the former professor of Islamic history at Al-Azhar University, Egypt's top university, declared islam is a fraud and fled to West.
http://www.ar abicb ible.com/testimoni als/egypt/1624-mar k-gabriel-testimon y.html
You did not read the Coran... because you don't know arabic... you read an interpretation of the Coran in your own language and that's it...
Islam will be the only religion of humankind...that will be around for ever...You like it or not it does not matter... the one who embrace this religion don't have to prove its validity to you... your optic is biased and probably you will not achieve your life fulfillement ...Professors in El-Azhar come and go but Islam is there to stay forever.

“Tell it as it is.”

Since: Jun 12

Australia

#50 Feb 16, 2013
Khaled wrote:
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You did not read the Coran... because you don't know arabic... you read an interpretation of the Coran in your own language and that's it...
Shouldn't an omniscient, omnipotent god be able to make his message so clear, so unambiguous that it couldn't be misinterpreted?
A message that could be understood by all his/her/its creations, not just those conversant with one dialect?
A message which would not allow its followers to break into 70 plus sects, each calling the others apostate and determined to kill each other?
Khaled

San Clemente, CA

#51 Feb 16, 2013
Old Pom wrote:
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Shouldn't an omniscient, omnipotent god be able to make his message so clear, so unambiguous that it couldn't be misinterpreted?
A message that could be understood by all his/her/its creations, not just those conversant with one dialect?
A message which would not allow its followers to break into 70 plus sects, each calling the others apostate and determined to kill each other?
The message of God is clear... there is no ambiguity... but humans remain humans and only the enlighten one get the clarity of his message... The language with which the Coran is written does not matter... The message it convey is the essence of the divine...if humans decide to create different sects and kill each other... they are not doing it for God... they are just humans... when they turn to him and ask for guidance... God will know how to reach them... the Coran is their enlightment...

Since: Dec 07

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#52 Feb 16, 2013
Khaled wrote:
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This is "Tindouf" where the story happened... a place in the middle of the Sahara desert... There is no Sharia law courts in Algeria...
You guys ...are talking through your arses the shills who just show up to bash Islam.... get the fck out of here you are not bringing anything to the discussion...just get the fck out... Trisha and ravenclaw just go to the Islam thread and spill your sionist bile... there is nothing you can contribute in the Algerian forums...
If the story is recent... there is more than what this newspaper article is bringing....No Algerian of any faith can be prosecuted for his belief.... there is no sharia law that govern the court in Algeria and the judge who let the Berber Christian leave with just a fine did the right thing...Tindouf is not as protected as cities of the north and the terrorists can hit the town at anytime...to defuse the situation between these two aholes who wanted to catch the headlines... the judge split the apple in two... for both sides feel that they won... the christian berber sentensed to pay a fine only (miserable amount) to give satisfaction to the moslem who brought the charges... The judge did not want that his small town be the focus of the terrorists activity... I believe in his ruling the judge did not take in consideration the religious component of the dispute... There was no bribe... mister big mouth who accuse the judicial system in Algeria without proof...
Poor little dingleberry! I am in the islam forum. However, after such a lovely islamic invitation, I'll be sure to come over to the algeria forum to spread some cheer!

One would think you would figure it out, but I guess I was giving you more credit than you are due. You probably still get stuck in the revolving doors at the welfare office.

“Tell it as it is.”

Since: Jun 12

Australia

#53 Feb 16, 2013
Khaled wrote:
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The language with which the Coran is written does not matter...
Isn't this a direct contradiction of what you posted in #49??
Joker

Arlington, MA

#54 Feb 16, 2013
A typical Muslim man in the US is accurately depicted here
http://enquirerz.blogspot.com/2013/02/typical...
Khaled

San Clemente, CA

#55 Feb 16, 2013
Old Pom wrote:
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Isn't this a direct contradiction of what you posted in #49??
In post #49 I said you read the interpretation of the Coran because you read it in another language than arabic... I meant you did not read the Coran as the prophet Mohamed {pbuh} recieved it from Jabril... When you read the Coran you get the essence of it... the later will forge your faith... whatever nationality or culture you come from Islam will adapt to your environement...without changing the word of God...Go to any country in the world and you will hear the samr call to the prayer in Arabic....so I guess you understood what I was talking about and see I was not contradicting myself...If you want read the Coran ... read it in arabic...

“Freedom, NOT islam.”

Since: Feb 11

Birmingham UK

#56 Feb 17, 2013
animals against islam wrote:
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Where is the advantage to society or to the woman who has sex outside of marriage and gives birth to a BASTARD.
Sharia law protects the woman from this disgrace and subsequent poverty.
I thought you were just pretending to be an ignorand islamic pig. I realise now that there is no pretence at all.
There was a time, not all that long ago when the word 'bastard' was used as a general description of any person who's mother was not married when she got pregnant/gave birth. I can remember the issue being debated on tv too. And I recall thinking how completely pointless it was. People are people. Simply because a mother is unmarried, no disrespect is attached to her. Women have children. That is a fact. On this planet, among the dominant species,females/women are the only ones who are bio-logicaly able to conceive and give birth. A single mother is not a whore, or a tart, or a slag, or a disgrace to her family and her children are not 'bastards' by any stretch of the imagination. The only disgrace is when idiots with an attitude like yours try to convince those women and children that they are worthless. The only 'bastards' if you will, are those men who think its acceptable to beat women up, to rape them, and to control them through fear. Your views are not unique to you or to islam. There are still plenty of idiots in the world. But thankfully, the world has learned and grown. Well, MOST of it has anyway.....but in isolated pockets, islam being a prime example, ignorance is bliss.
Thank goodness it wont be for much lonmger!

“not that tom!”

Since: Sep 10

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#57 Feb 17, 2013
Khaled wrote:
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You did not read the Coran... because you don't know arabic... you read an interpretation of the Coran in your own language and that's it...
Islam will be the only religion of humankind...that will be around for ever...You like it or not it does not matter... the one who embrace this religion don't have to prove its validity to you... your optic is biased and probably you will not achieve your life fulfillement ...Professors in El-Azhar come and go but Islam is there to stay forever.
Islams downfall will be due to the backwardness of it's believers, inbreeding and it's ovbious lack of humanity.
Most of the Christian countries under Ottoman rule rejected islam in favour of their own culture and religon. The reluctance of muslims to accept translations of islam is a further blow it's spread!

Islam reduces non-muslims to the status of Dhimmis...second class citizens in their own countries - but is not too proud to accept money from the Dhimmi host country!
rio

Beckenham, UK

#58 Feb 17, 2013
tom_ wrote:
<quoted text> Islams downfall will be due to the backwardness of it's believers, inbreeding and it's ovbious lack of humanity.
Most of the Christian countries under Ottoman rule rejected islam in favour of their own culture and religon. The reluctance of muslims to accept translations of islam is a further blow it's spread!
Islam reduces non-muslims to the status of Dhimmis...second class citizens in their own countries - but is not too proud to accept money from the Dhimmi host country!
So, you have nothing to worry about?

Why being so defensive then ...
Khaled

San Clemente, CA

#59 Feb 17, 2013
tom_ wrote:
<quoted text> Islams downfall will be due to the backwardness of it's believers, inbreeding and it's ovbious lack of humanity.
Most of the Christian countries under Ottoman rule rejected islam in favour of their own culture and religon. The reluctance of muslims to accept translations of islam is a further blow it's spread!
Islam reduces non-muslims to the status of Dhimmis...second class citizens in their own countries - but is not too proud to accept money from the Dhimmi host country!
Your arguments are so deja vu... that I don't want debate anything with you.... Go back to school or read books... may be tonight I made you a favor ... I am in a good mood.

Since: Dec 07

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#60 Feb 17, 2013
Khaled wrote:
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Your arguments are so deja vu... that I don't want debate anything with you.... Go back to school or read books... may be tonight I made you a favor ... I am in a good mood.
Translation: Dammit, they aren't supposed to throw facts and logic at me. Now what do I do? I'll just avoid the whole discussion.

Since: Apr 11

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#61 Feb 17, 2013
Old Pom wrote:
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Or England.
Don't muslims already have clandestine sharia courts in America?
Yes!
And in communities where there are a large number of Muslims living there , there is a rise of in family rape, honor murder, and slave prostitution.

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