Islam and science: The road to renewal

Islam and science: The road to renewal

There are 21 comments on the The Economist story from Jan 24, 2013, titled Islam and science: The road to renewal. In it, The Economist reports that:

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Tallahassee, FL

#1 Jan 24, 2013
Fighting with science is a dead end. Some churches try that, too. Most do not. It is self defeating.

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#2 Jan 24, 2013
more truth wrote:
Fighting with science is a dead end. Some churches try that, too. Most do not. It is self defeating.
I don't see any church fighting against empirical science, but rather some politics involved in excluding alternative explanations while favoring another unfalsifiable worldview.
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Rowville, Australia

#3 Jan 24, 2013
REALITY: The Medic-Planet.com encyclopedia notes that leprosy "can survive three weeks or longer outside the human body, such as in dust or on clothing"

BIBLE: God commanded the Levitical priests to burn the garments of leprosy victims!(Leviticus 13:52)

The difference between the scientific knowledge that God revealled to the Israelites and the "scientific miracles" that 'Allah revealled in the Quran' is that the 'knowledge' in the Quran was no use to ancient men. It's like satan used his knowledge of science to defend himself.
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Rowville, Australia

#4 Jan 24, 2013
SCIENTIFIC FACTS IN THE BIBLE:
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/scientific_fa...

“M.A....Rise”

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#5 Jan 24, 2013
jesus is wrote:
SCIENTIFIC FACTS IN THE BIBLE:
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/scientific_fa...
Scientific facts of bible = birds have four legs

Islam is proven by many scientific aspects to be Religion of heaven

Watch how many scientists speak about islam and say ISLAM IS FROM GOD:



Say ALLAH AKBAR

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#6 Jan 24, 2013
jesus is wrote:
SCIENTIFIC FACTS IN THE BIBLE:
http://www.inplainsite.org/html/scientific_fa...
On the archaeology and paleontology: Your western scientists invented too many great lies which was its main purpose " Anti-islamic mission"

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#7 Jan 24, 2013
from The Economist:

"THE sleep has been long and deep. In 2005 Harvard University produced more scientific papers than 17 Arabic-speaking countries combined. The world’s 1.6 billion Muslims have produced only two Nobel laureates in chemistry and physics ... By contrast Jews, outnumbered 100 to one by Muslims, have won 79 ..."

The two Muslims Nobel laureates moved to the West.

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#8 Jan 24, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
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On the archaeology and paleontology: Your western scientists invented too many great lies which was its main purpose " Anti-islamic mission"
So, tell us how studying the ancient pharaohs is anti-Islamic????

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Rowville, Australia

#9 Jan 24, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
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Scientific facts of bible = birds have four legs
Islam is proven by many scientific aspects to be Religion of heaven
Watch how many scientists speak about islam and say ISLAM IS FROM GOD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =FUUPYs0gElUXX
Say ALLAH AKBAR
The reference to "fowl" in Leviticus is thought by some Skeptics to refer to birds, but the word used here is 'owph', which merely means a creature with wings -- it is the same word used in verse 21 (flying). The reference in both cases is to INSECTS.
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Rowville, Australia

#10 Jan 24, 2013
DO WINGED INSECTS HAVE "FOUR" LEGS?

The last pair of "legs" of many winged insects are specially designed for jumping or "lifting off" and therefore serve a differing function than the other four legs.
UK Soldier

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#11 Jan 25, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
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On the archaeology and paleontology: Your western scientists invented too many great lies which was its main purpose " Anti-islamic mission"
Fck off with that "Islamic Backs against the Wall" shit. Every time something is proven or disproven its automatically anti-islamic...simply because your beliefs are at risk of being proven false.

Science has brought more to the world then religion. Religion holds mankind back, and Islam brings making into reverse. If Islam took over we would all be living in ruins or caves.

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#12 Jan 25, 2013
jesus is wrote:
REALITY: The Medic-Planet.com encyclopedia notes that leprosy "can survive three weeks or longer outside the human body, such as in dust or on clothing"
BIBLE: God commanded the Levitical priests to burn the garments of leprosy victims!(Leviticus 13:52)
But did your "God" also command that the floor of the dwelling be scorched or dug up and the floor surface be removed for burial.
When a person has weeping ulcerative skin lesions and is prone to nose bleeds (blood left on clothing), it is no great leap of intelligence to destroy soiled clothing as you would for someone with dysentery.
A per-modern treatment for leprosy was chaulmoogra oil. The first injectable administration was given by the Egyptian Muslim doctor Tortoulis Bey, personal physician to the Sultan Hussein Kamel of Egypt.

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#13 Jan 25, 2013
Joe DeCaro wrote:
from The Economist:
"THE sleep has been long and deep. In 2005 Harvard University produced more scientific papers than 17 Arabic-speaking countries combined. The world’s 1.6 billion Muslims have produced only two Nobel laureates in chemistry and physics ... By contrast Jews, outnumbered 100 to one by Muslims, have won 79 ..."
The two Muslims Nobel laureates moved to the West.
You selectively chose to quote the introductory negative aspect of Islam from the article whilst ignoring the majority positive news.

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#14 Jan 25, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
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Scientific facts of bible = birds have four legs
Islam is proven by many scientific aspects to be Religion of heaven
Watch how many scientists speak about islam and say ISLAM IS FROM GOD:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =FUUPYs0gElUXX
Say ALLAH AKBAR
The "creature with wings" is describing a dragon which has wings and four legs.
However, to the modern world it is a fictional creature that the bible refers to.

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#15 Jan 27, 2013
This is what Christian schools teach:
"Dragons were totally real: "[Is] it possible that a fire-breathing animal really existed? Today some scientists are saying yes. They have found large chambers in certain dinosaur skulls…The large skull chambers could have contained special chemical-producing glands. When the animal forced the chemicals out of its mouth or nose, these substances may have combined and produced fire and smoke."—Life Science, 3rd ed., Bob Jones University Press, 2007"
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/0...
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Rowville, Australia

#16 Jan 27, 2013
animals against islam wrote:
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The "creature with wings" is describing a dragon which has wings and four legs.
However, to the modern world it is a fictional creature that the bible refers to.
"DRAGON" IS AN ENGLISH WORD!!!!!!!
and is what some English translators of the original Hebrew language chose.

The Hebrew word (pronounced)'TAN-NEEM', meaning monstrous (i.e. large), in referring to two different creatures, one that lived on land and another that lived in the water, and the Greek word is(pronounced)'DRAK-OWN'(hence the origin of the English word dragon), meaning a serpent-like creature.
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Rowville, Australia

#17 Jan 27, 2013
DINOSAURS?

The Bible mentions two creatures that seem remarkably similar to the dinosaurs, the leviathan and behemoth, in Job chapters 40-41. It is the view of creation scientists that all the “dragon” myths came from real contact between human beings and dinosaurs.

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#18 Jan 27, 2013
Jesus is wrote:
DINOSAURS?
The Bible mentions two creatures that seem remarkably similar to the dinosaurs, the leviathan and behemoth, in Job chapters 40-41. It is the view of creation scientists that all the “dragon” myths came from real contact between human beings and dinosaurs.
Dinosaurs and humans probably hung out: "Bible-believing Christians cannot accept any evolutionary interpretation. Dinosaurs and humans were definitely on the earth at the same time and may have even lived side by side within the past few thousand years."—Life Science, 3rd ed., Bob Jones University Press, 2007

Watch Theodore Rex:
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Rowville, Australia

#19 Jan 27, 2013
DID MAN AND DINOSAURS CO-EXIST?

http://www.6000years.org/frame.php...
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Rowville, Australia

#20 Jan 27, 2013
THE WORD 'DINOSAURIA' DIDN'T EXIST UNTIL 1842.

when it was first used by an English scientist, Dr. Richard Owens.

The Bible mentions the 'Tanniyn', the 'Behemoth' and the 'Leviathan' when describing three large, unidentifiable, probably now extint creatures.

If these creatures were fictional then the writers certainly tried hard to make their words unbelievable, which is not very likely.

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