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#1006 Feb 1, 2013
new muslim girl wrote:
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Right thinking? The sexualisation and objectification of women and children is right thinking?:) a society that breeds low self esteem, weak mentalitities and poverty is right thinking? I see.
I think you really have a problem, no one I know wants women or children to be used as slaves and the only society that I see,"breeds low self esteem, weak mentalitities and poverty is" islam.
New muslim girl

Stevenage, UK

#1007 Feb 1, 2013
Ravenclaw wrote:
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Considering that you live in a free Western country, you know that you are not being honest. You are using the typical islamic techniques called denial, distraction, and blatant lying. The regular posters here on onto that propaganda.
You are the one denying reality. Western countries aren't perfect, but they aren't the way you describe - and you are fully aware of that. You make statements and provide no evidence, no facts, no proof.
Oh really? Firstly, can i just remind you, i am a teenage girl and i know alot of teenage girls. I know how they think and i see what they do, i am more close to understanding them than you are.

Low Self Esteem :
Almost every teenage girl hates the way they look, a survey suggests. One in five is so unhappy they suffer from anorexia or bulimia.
The survey of 2,000 girls for Bliss magazine found six out of 10 would be happier if they lost weight.
Two out of three girls under the age of 13 said they had already been on a diet.
More than a quarter of 14 year olds said they had considered having plastic surgery or taking diet pills. Among those who were overweight, the figure rose to 42%.
http://www.empoweringparents.com/blog/adolesc...
In 2007 : On average, almost 3000 people commit suicide every day.
Worldwide, suicide rates have increased by 60% over the last 50 years, and the increase has been particularly marked in developing countries.( your precious west )
Well, generally speaking, people commit suicide because they feel there is no other solution, no hope left. The reasons could either be financial or personal (relationship problem, low self-esteem etc,) or due to a mood disorder. A lack of purpose in life also adds to a feeling of hopelessness.( Lack of Religion might i add ^^)
attempted suicide rates are usually 10-20 times higher than completed suicide rates. And more women attempt suicide than men.
Countries (highest suicide rates) do have the fewest number of happy people. Only 2 percent of Russians are happy, and no one from Belarus or Ukraine is happy. About 10 per cent of Lithunians are happy.
Are more people happy in countries in Group 4, with its low suicide rates? Well, there was no data from the Muslim countries, but the majority of those in the other countries seem happy. Not a high number really – 68 percent of those in Spain, 64 per cent of those in Italy, and 59 percent of those in Brazil and Argentina. Obviously, these people may not consider themselves happy, but not are certainly not depressed enough to feel like killing themselves.

http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/sui...

The media's portrayal of young women as sex objects harms girls' mental and physical health, US experts warn.

Sexualisation can lead to a lack of confidence with their bodies as well as depression and eating disorders.

Such images also have a negative effect on healthy sexual development in girls, the researchers said.

"We are a visually absorbed society - our views of people are dominated by how they look."

Women’s Forum Australia (Women’s Forum) is deeply concerned that young girls and women are objectified and sexualised. Public images of women heavily focus on women’s sexual features rather than other attributes such as intelligence or work capacity.

Women’s magazines tend to portray women in demeaning ways, depicting them as objects in positions of inferiority, subordination and low social power.i Women’s physical appearances – especially their sexual attributes – are portrayed as their most important assets. This is presented as liberating and empowering.

Previous studies have found that attractive people are more likely to be perceived as intelligent.( Judging by looks)

http://www.businessinsider.com/13-brands-that...
Notice how it's all women.

Some evidence for you. you are in denial.

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#1008 Feb 1, 2013
I hear stories about a new kind of toilet paper being sold.

There's a drawing of the prophet Mohammed on it and you get to colour him in!
abba wrote:
<quoted text>o shut ur face an start paying ur dhimmi taxes u stpad loud mouthd kafir scum.u better start watchng ur mouth
New muslim girl

Stevenage, UK

#1009 Feb 1, 2013
taffman wrote:
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I think you really have a problem, no one I know wants women or children to be used as slaves and the only society that I see,"breeds low self esteem, weak mentalitities and poverty is" islam.
Take a look at the post below. You are not actually serious are you? You obviously havent been watching Channel 4 when they show all the programs about kids with low self esteem or BBC Three when they talk about the growing suicide problem. Or even Pushy mums on Living TV where they talk about the 5 year old children that think they are fat and ugly. I am not saying they want women as slaves, sex slaves maybe yes. But you cant deny that it is happening maybe not on purpose, most of the evidence about the girls is from the BBC.

Since: Dec 07

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#1010 Feb 1, 2013
New muslim girl wrote:
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Oh really? Firstly, can i just remind you, i am a teenage girl and i know alot of teenage girls. I know how they think and i see what they do, i am more close to understanding them than you are.
Some evidence for you. you are in denial.
I don't doubt that YOU have those feelings of inadequecy, but surveying 2,000 girls doesn't accurately represent the entire population. I don't approve of the sexualization of females, however, the answer isn't wearing a tent or beating women for failing to wear the tent.

Most people do have things about themselves they desire to change. That's human nature, see something you like and desire to acquire it. Most of the youth I meet today are happy and comfortable in their own bodies.

Perhaps you should hang out with a different crowd of people. It sounds like the kids you do spend time with haven't been given the necessary skills to become happy, productive adults, based on how much time you spend lamenting it.
New muslim girl

Stevenage, UK

#1011 Feb 1, 2013
Ravenclaw wrote:
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I don't doubt that YOU have those feelings of inadequecy, but surveying 2,000 girls doesn't accurately represent the entire population. I don't approve of the sexualization of females, however, the answer isn't wearing a tent or beating women for failing to wear the tent.
Most people do have things about themselves they desire to change. That's human nature, see something you like and desire to acquire it. Most of the youth I meet today are happy and comfortable in their own bodies.
Perhaps you should hang out with a different crowd of people. It sounds like the kids you do spend time with haven't been given the necessary skills to become happy, productive adults, based on how much time you spend lamenting it.
You ask a teenage girl, any teenage girl, go out on the street and ask whether she is happy with herself and just see, you cant deny the truth. I am perfectly happy in myself. I always have been, it's the way ive been raised, and some girls are. But the majority arent. It's not in islam to beat women for not wearing hijab. I am talking about the next generation, my generation, hollistically. There is information out there with much larger samples than 2000 girls and it's not hard to see, you just want to reject the truth lol. I know that people have things they want to change, but as a child, your main concern should be playing and stuff and they're thinking about being models and how they are too fat and how they think they are ugly and how they are going to have boob jobs when they are older and how their role models are katie price. It's not right at all. That's not how the mentality of a child should be.

Since: Dec 07

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#1012 Feb 1, 2013
New muslim girl wrote:
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You ask a teenage girl, any teenage girl, go out on the street and ask whether she is happy with herself and just see, you cant deny the truth. I am perfectly happy in myself. I always have been, it's the way ive been raised, and some girls are. But the majority arent. It's not in islam to beat women for not wearing hijab. I am talking about the next generation, my generation, hollistically. There is information out there with much larger samples than 2000 girls and it's not hard to see, you just want to reject the truth lol. I know that people have things they want to change, but as a child, your main concern should be playing and stuff and they're thinking about being models and how they are too fat and how they think they are ugly and how they are going to have boob jobs when they are older and how their role models are katie price. It's not right at all. That's not how the mentality of a child should be.
I suspect you are being deliberately obtuse. Or you are just far more immature than I had thought. Regardless, you have entered the realm of rambling nonsense.
Hmmm

New York, NY

#1013 Feb 1, 2013
And no grown woman with any sense of her own worth would agree to follow a religion that views her as inferior to any man, including her own son. It's beyond delusional.

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#1014 Feb 1, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
And no grown woman with any sense of her own worth would agree to follow a religion that views her as inferior to any man, including her own son. It's beyond delusional.
Well said, thank you.
Mahmood

Schomberg, Canada

#1015 Feb 1, 2013
New muslim girl wrote:
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Cool.
You told me that you are going to show some evidence for Islam - I'm am still waiting.

Since: Oct 06

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#1016 Feb 1, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
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You told me that you are going to show some evidence for Islam - I'm am still waiting.
Excellent comment!
New muslim girl

Stevenage, UK

#1017 Feb 2, 2013
Ravenclaw wrote:
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I don't approve of the sexualization of females
I thought i was lying.
New muslim girl

Stevenage, UK

#1018 Feb 2, 2013
Ravenclaw wrote:
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I suspect you are being deliberately obtuse. Or you are just far more immature than I had thought. Regardless, you have entered the realm of rambling nonsense.
Do you think i am talking nonsense?=) It's because people like you don't acknowledge that people of today need help which is why they feel so alone and stuck that they think the only way out is to kill themselves.
Timesten

United States

#1019 Feb 2, 2013
abba wrote:
<quoted text>y dont u get a stright ticket 2 hellfire?oh u have 1 alraedy. fool patriot of cowards. if i wuold poop out a fat smely log it wuold still b better than u.haha
How about a hellfire up your whazoo, muzzy filth?
Timesten

United States

#1021 Feb 2, 2013
Timesten wrote:
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How about a hellfire up your whazoo too, filthy sow?
How about a hellfire up you lubed buttocks, Tom?

Since: Feb 12

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#1023 Feb 2, 2013
New muslim girl wrote:
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Do you think i am talking nonsense?=) It's because people like you don't acknowledge that people of today need help which is why they feel so alone and stuck that they think the only way out is to kill themselves.
you are either very young or you have a twisted view on life. yes many need help and many do commit suicide for the lack of and some times despite having said help. but the way you talk you could swear no muslim ever committed suicide.
Timesten

United States

#1025 Feb 2, 2013
Timesten wrote:
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You're either a piece of sh!t or a whole turd.
Both ways you need to be flushed.
A rodent comes out of his hole and tells how much winter we got left. You stick your head out of your hole and gopher droppings come rolling out of your mouth. When's summer coming muzzbutt?
Ahmed

Alexandria, Egypt

#1026 Feb 2, 2013
SWERTY,IN THIS WAY U WILL GO TO HELL,IGNORANT CHILDREN,OH AND WOULD U LIKE IF I TOLD U TO DO THAT WITH YOUR MOTHER OR FATHER?SHUT UP THIS PLACE IS NOT FOR CHILDRENS, IGNORANTS, PERVS,LAYABOUTS WHO GO AROUND,DIRTY GARBAGE U DISGUSTE HUMANITY,U DISGUST EVERYONE LOSER ZERO,U R THE SHAME OF HUMANITY BECAUSE YOUR IGNORANCE IS SOOOO HIGH,U R NOT BEHAVED U RAPRESENT THE STUPIDITY AND IGNORANCE OF PEOPLE U RAPRESENT THE NOTHING,U DONT HURT NEITHER GOD NOR ME U HURT ONLY YOURSELF,IF THE PROPHET WAS HERE HE WOULD SAY NICE THING THAT U EVEN WOULD FEEL SHAME FOREVER,U POOR ,U R POOR IN MIND AND HEART

“not that tom!”

Since: Sep 10

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#1027 Feb 2, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
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its your west whos reason for this fitna
Its your old british people who invented the islamic extremists who enjoy killing people from both sides
Britain would have put an end to violent extremists and repalced then with stabilty. Yet again muslims prove they cannot live with each other unless they have a very strong leader in charge of them!
Looking for excuses won't stop Islamic violence,,a change of religion probably would though!
Ahmed

Alexandria, Egypt

#1028 Feb 2, 2013
ISLAM IS AGAINST VIOLENCE
HERE R THE PROOFS:
THE PROPHET PACE BE UPON HIM SAID:"It is unworthy of a Mu’min [a person with faith] to injure people’s reputations; and it is unworthy to curse any one; and it is unworthy to abuse any one; and it is unworthy of a Mu’min to talk arrogantly".

"The proud will not enter Paradise, nor a violent speaker".

"Deal gently with the people, and be not harsh; cheer them and condemn them not."

Someone said to the Prophet,‘Pray to God against the idolaters and curse them.’ The Prophet replied,‘I have been sent to show mercy and have not been sent to curse.’

The principles of Islam are derived from two primary sources, i.e. The Holy Quran and The Sunnah of the Prophet. The Holy Quran is the word of Allah, sent to the Last and Final Messenger Muhammad through the angel Jibreel. The second source, Sunnah, is the way – sayings, doings and tacit approvals- of the Prophet. The aspects we will discuss about Islam in this article are based in fact these two primary sources.

Non-violence has no place in Islam. Allah says in the Holy Quran:“…Allah does not love those who do mischief…”[Sura Mai’dah 5:64]. The Arabic word used for “mischief” is fasad. It has got several meanings: Murder, Violence, Evil, Corruption, etc. So, it is clear that when Allah does not love those who do fasad on earth, how will he legislate violence as a part of His religion.

The Holy Quran uses such powerful language to denounce innocent killing, that it leaves no room for any further argument. Allah says:“…if any one kills a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed the whole humanity: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole humanity…”.[Sura Mai’dah 5:31]

Even in retaliation a Muslim is not allowed to murder innocent children, women and elderly people. In a Hadith, the Prophet said:“Go out in the name of Allah and by the help of Allah, following the way of the Messenger of Allah. Do not kill any old man, infant, child or woman… spread goodness and do good, for Allah loves those who do good.”(Abu Dawood). So, even in the thick of a battle Islam maintains a high standard of non-violence.

Islam gives an open choice to the entire mankind either to accept it or to reject it as their way of life and their religion. Allah says:“Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.”

Furthermore, there are numerous traditions of Prophet which teach Muslims to be tolerant and always put their trust in Allah, even if they are wronged.
"If anyone harms (others), Allah will harm him, and if anyone shows hostility to others, Allah will show hostility to him." (Abu Dawood)

THESE R PROOFS THAT SHOW THAT ISLAM IS AGAINST VIOLENCE AND MUSLIMS FOLLOW THE QURAN AND THE PROPHET SAYING BECAUSE THEY RAPRESENT ISLAM.PUT IN YOUR MIND THAT TERRORISTS RAPPRESENT TERRORISM AND QURAN AND THE PROPHET SAYING RAPRESENT ISLAM NOT TERRORISM

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