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“M.A....Rise”

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#492 Jan 21, 2013
Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Threatening rape and murder is generally considered impolite by normal human beings, you little twaaat.
and your evil wishes to see me killed and all muslims??? is very polite from you? drunk sharmouta

you lack all about manners, no wonder you the peasant of michigan who was raised with herds of pigs and cows hahahaaa

“M.A....Rise”

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#493 Jan 21, 2013
victoria wrote:
<quoted text>Funny that muself and my female freinds seem to get the majority of harassment from muslims one was a pedophile who used to go pretty girls whenever me and a friend was around there have been instance where i have been followed by muslim men propostioned by men ols enough to be my father even though i mentioned i was fifteen at the time he said how about just as friends.Yet and still they bother me i heve been abused it the street by a muslim man because i saw him quote often and he always looked at me i once asked him if i could do something for heim and he started swearing and cussing at me and i had to go to court once because a male friend was attacked because this muslim guy accused him off staring at him so hos friend punched him in theye and it started bleeding and had to go to hospital.And you wonder why we dont like muslims and though i may admit there are some decent ones around most of then aren't
victoria the bird

there are some bad muslims, not all muslims follow islamic manners and teachings

a true muslim would never bother or harm you

but how did you know they were muslims??? did they leave tattoo on their forehead saying they are muslims? lol
Hmmm

Conklin, NY

#494 Jan 21, 2013
Pigs are much nicer to be around than you are.

“M.A....Rise”

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#495 Jan 21, 2013
new muslim girl wrote:
<quoted text>
We aren't all like that, but at the same time how would you know he was a Muslim?
hows the little muslim girl?

did you start wearing hijab?

becareful lot of extremist english morons attack girls who wear hijab

“M.A....Rise”

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#496 Jan 21, 2013
Bombardier wrote:
<quoted text>
You pointed the finger at Hindu people. Some westerners are perverts, so you say all westerners are perverts. Let's apply that to Muslims, and you wouldn't like it. Guess what? We don't like it either. You reap what you sow my friend.
did i say all wsterners are perverts?

i said " many western people are"

if i generalized before, well i appologize
Mahmood

Mississauga, Canada

#497 Jan 21, 2013
new muslim girl wrote:
<quoted text>
I researched enough to know I wanted to be a Muslim and I researched other religions as well as Islam. I've been to retreats, i listen to lectures, i joined an academy to teach me about Islam as in Qur'an and Sunnah. I haven't been brainwashed, i simply love the religion other overs and yet people tell me that's impossible. I am not the only revert that thinks like me and there's a reason Islam is growing incredibly fast, it actually is a beautiful religion but it has a bad reputation because of bad actions of people that say they are Muslims. I don't know if they are or they aren't, for me they are the brainwashed ones. You dont know what i have and haven't researched so do not make assumptions. For me, if something doesn't sound right then i will research it myself or i have a few Shayks to ask but i dont just follow something without looking into it and that also applies to the lectures that i watch and listen to and the retreats that i go to.
You went to lectures and listened to spurious and sketchy Islamic history and traditions and in the process learnt one aspect of Islam.

Did you ever ask those lecturers as to what happened to orignal manuscripts of the Koran?

Did you ever care to think that the Koran we have today may not have been all written by Mohammad due absence of evidence and could a product of a later time?

Did you ask what irrefutable evidence is there that proves that Mohammad was actually a prophet and the Koran the immutable word of god?

Islam maybe growing at a rapid pace due to procreation and mass migration, but growth of a particular religion does not prove anything.

By the way, the actions of those few muslims are derived from the teachings of the Koran. They are victims of Islam.

“M.A....Rise”

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#498 Jan 21, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
Pigs are much nicer to be around than you are.
r u an ape?
New muslim girl

Stevenage, UK

#499 Jan 21, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
<quoted text> hows the little muslim girl?
did you start wearing hijab?
becareful lot of extremist english morons attack girls who wear hijab
I have not been attacked yet =) just some comments but thanks for asking and yes i have worn hijab for 5 months now and i am muslim since the start of last ramadan =) The first day i wore hijab was really funny actually, because i didnt tell anyone i just went in to school with it on and no one wanted to say anything, everyone was making really awkward conversation with me and there faces were just priceless.
New muslim girl

Stevenage, UK

#500 Jan 21, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
You went to lectures and listened to spurious and sketchy Islamic history and traditions and in the process learnt one aspect of Islam.
Did you ever ask those lecturers as to what happened to orignal manuscripts of the Koran?
Did you ever care to think that the Koran we have today may not have been all written by Mohammad due absence of evidence and could a product of a later time?
Did you ask what irrefutable evidence is there that proves that Mohammad was actually a prophet and the Koran the immutable word of god?
Islam maybe growing at a rapid pace due to procreation and mass migration, but growth of a particular religion does not prove anything.
By the way, the actions of those few muslims are derived from the teachings of the Koran. They are victims of Islam.
Why would i need to ask when there are whole lectures based on it? and those are not actions of muslims.

“M.A....Rise”

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#501 Jan 21, 2013
Hmmm wrote:
<quoted text>
No kidding. I resent the implication that because I am an American woman, I'm supposed to be a slut, when nothing could be further from the truth. I'm completely independent. That doesn't make me a whore, but you don't seem to have any problem saying it anyway.
every western american woman " i'm fully independent"

do they have schizophrenia? LOL

its nt only americans but canadians too

i have canadian friend who always keep talking about how shes strong and independent too

with islam:

No independence with your man, Your man is your ruler and your lord

you must down to his power

“M.A....Rise”

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#502 Jan 21, 2013
Faith famous words:

I'm beautiful.....i'm queen,you would dream to touch me

hmmm bomb:

i'm completely independent

[email protected] manly women

“M.A....Rise”

Since: Jan 12

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#503 Jan 21, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
You went to lectures and listened to spurious and sketchy Islamic history and traditions and in the process learnt one aspect of Islam.
Did you ever ask those lecturers as to what happened to orignal manuscripts of the Koran?
Did you ever care to think that the Koran we have today may not have been all written by Mohammad due absence of evidence and could a product of a later time?
Did you ask what irrefutable evidence is there that proves that Mohammad was actually a prophet and the Koran the immutable word of god?
Islam maybe growing at a rapid pace due to procreation and mass migration, but growth of a particular religion does not prove anything.
By the way, the actions of those few muslims are derived from the teachings of the Koran. They are victims of Islam.
You are loser!

there is no doubt in islam, Islam is the absolute truth

Studying the bible and compare it to holy koran, its enough for you xtians

Your priests ignore the barnabas gospel because it confirms the islam

Die live as muslim,this is the way to heaven
New muslim girl

Stevenage, UK

#504 Jan 21, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
<quoted text>
every western american woman " i'm fully independent"
do they have schizophrenia? LOL
its nt only americans but canadians too
i have canadian friend who always keep talking about how shes strong and independent too
with islam:
No independence with your man, Your man is your ruler and your lord
you must down to his power
Well it's not like that, Yes you have to obey him but not if he's asking you to do haram things, women are allowed to have a voice in islam and we must be treated with respect. We dont have to listen to a bad husband and our husbands have to give us our rights. he is not our Lord, Allah is our only Lord and he is powerless in comparison, let's not encourage shirk o.o!

Since: Sep 09

Hollywood, FL

#505 Jan 21, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
<quoted text> hows the little muslim girl?
did you start wearing hijab?
becareful lot of extremist english morons attack girls who wear hijab
many Muslim women dress in normal clothes and do not wer a hijab...the queen of Jordan...dresses like everyone else wears lovely clothes and makeup, no hijab...many Muslim women know it is not REALLY required....

Since: Sep 09

Hollywood, FL

#506 Jan 21, 2013
WASHINGTON: A leading Arab Islamic scholar has said that neither the Qur’an nor the authentic Sunnah demand that women wear the hijab or cover their hair.
“There is no specific verse that obliges women to wear headscarves, but you find verses setting the broad lines for public modesty or decency,” according to Gamal El-Banna, brother of Hasan El-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
Writing in the magazine Egypt Today, El-Banna lays to rest the controversy over the increasing use of hijab by explaining that there is no Quranic authority or injunction for donning the hijab. He writes,“The Qur’an states:‘And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent and to draw their veils over the bosoms (24:31).’ If the Qur’an wanted to oblige women to cover their hair, it would have stated it very clearly. Why would the Qur’an resort to expressions that have a variety of interpretations? The fact is that the Qur’an can be understood directly without resorting to interpretation if it couldn’t, we would have clergy to lead us.”
In his book al-Hijab, El-Banna declares that the veil is not an Islamic tradition, but a pre-Islamic one. He bases this view on the research he has completed on the Arab world prior to the advent of the Holy Prophet (PBUH). In those days, he says, Arab women covered their heads and left the upper parts of their chest uncovered. He concludes that the Quranic verse commands women to cover their chests, not their heads.
According to El-Banna, the Prophet (PBUH) improved the status of women as much as he could given his cultural milieu. He also opened the door for further aspects of emancipation. However, the Arab society was reluctant to tolerate this new reality, so many of them started to make up ahadith that would maintain the status quo. Similarly, El-Banna says, there is no religious foundation that prevents women running for any elected office, including the presidency.
El-Banna dismisses accusations that he is calling on the faithful to abandon the Sunnah, but insists that the orally transmitted traditions of the Prophet (PBUH) are less binding on Muslims than the Qur’an itself.“We cannot deny the Sunnah, even though it has been proven that most of the sayings attributed to the Prophet (PBUH) have been made up, were narrated in other people’s words or were transmitted inaccurately. This does not mean that there are no true sayings that set many Islamic fundamental principles; what it does mean is that it’s high time to study the Sunnah in a different way,” El-Banna says.
abba

Mesquite, NV

#507 Jan 21, 2013
Mi_nina wrote:
<quoted text>many Muslim women dress in normal clothes and do not wer a hijab...the queen of Jordan...dresses like everyone else wears lovely clothes and makeup, no hijab...many Muslim women know it is not REALLY required....
allah(swa) specaficaly addreses women when he asks them not to show off their adorniment except that which is apparent and draw their viels over their bodys. in beautfal qur'an

Since: Sep 09

Hollywood, FL

#508 Jan 21, 2013
Read the remarks from the Islamic scholar I posted in the above post...the Koran says to cover the chest...not the head.
Anonymous

Stevenage, UK

#509 Jan 21, 2013
Mi_nina wrote:
<quoted text>many Muslim women dress in normal clothes and do not wer a hijab...the queen of Jordan...dresses like everyone else wears lovely clothes and makeup, no hijab...many Muslim women know it is not REALLY required....
To be a muslim means : "To completely submit your self to Allah"

That is what Muslim means it means submission.
Allah has asked us to wear hijab. If he says it is necessary then it is necessary, the fact that they dont wear hijab is part of there culture and it is not a matter to ponder on in islam. Allah says wear it, so you wear it. If not then you are disobeying him.
Disobedience is not complete submission. Are they muslims? Who knows =) only Allah. But there are many benefits of Hijab and if all women of the world today were covered society would not be over sexualised with 10 year olds having unprotected sex and people singing about it and rape cases rising and Homosexuality, as people might actually be able to suppress there sexual desires because women aren't waving sex and their bodies in their faces all the time =)!
They did studies to show what happens in the brain when men see the skin of a lady and it showed that the area of the brain that they use to deal with cars and games and other materialistic objects turns on and is more active and the side that they use to deal with empathy and feelings becomes less active. Men these days are too over exposed to women and their bodies which is why they subconsciously begin to see us as objects and things for their pleasure the same way they look at cars. It is no wonder that so many women get used for sex and because women naturally like attention, especially male attention and we like to feel "loved" there are some women that will just go along with that. This brings out many problems in male and female relationships. Then women demand respect from men and all the other protests that they do, when we dont even have respect for ourselfs. Women nowadays are portrayed just for our bodies, For example the Loreal advert "your worth it" they define a woman's worth by her hair, we are only worthy if we have nice hair. If you want to be worthy change your hair. These are the things that, allthough we dont realise it, are encouraged in society these days. Then when little girls are at the age of 6 and all they care about is their appearance and they think they are fat and the only way they can get boys when their older is to wear make up and show off their bodies and get boob jobs, it is frowned upon. People don't realise it is society that has made them that way because they don't realise the effect the small things have on people. Things such as porn are going to be the fall of humans and we are already 3/4 way into self destruction.

“M.A....Rise”

Since: Jan 12

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#510 Jan 21, 2013
New muslim girl wrote:
<quoted text>
I have not been attacked yet =) just some comments but thanks for asking and yes i have worn hijab for 5 months now and i am muslim since the start of last ramadan =) The first day i wore hijab was really funny actually, because i didnt tell anyone i just went in to school with it on and no one wanted to say anything, everyone was making really awkward conversation with me and there faces were just priceless.
Mashallah, May ALLAH settle your heart on islam little sis :)

anyway faith in heart is more important than looking

“M.A....Rise”

Since: Jan 12

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#511 Jan 21, 2013
Mi_nina wrote:
WASHINGTON: A leading Arab Islamic scholar has said that neither the Qur’an nor the authentic Sunnah demand that women wear the hijab or cover their hair.
“There is no specific verse that obliges women to wear headscarves, but you find verses setting the broad lines for public modesty or decency,” according to Gamal El-Banna, brother of Hasan El-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
Writing in the magazine Egypt Today, El-Banna lays to rest the controversy over the increasing use of hijab by explaining that there is no Quranic authority or injunction for donning the hijab. He writes,“The Qur’an states:‘And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent and to draw their veils over the bosoms (24:31).’ If the Qur’an wanted to oblige women to cover their hair, it would have stated it very clearly. Why would the Qur’an resort to expressions that have a variety of interpretations? The fact is that the Qur’an can be understood directly without resorting to interpretation if it couldn’t, we would have clergy to lead us.”
In his book al-Hijab, El-Banna declares that the veil is not an Islamic tradition, but a pre-Islamic one. He bases this view on the research he has completed on the Arab world prior to the advent of the Holy Prophet (PBUH). In those days, he says, Arab women covered their heads and left the upper parts of their chest uncovered. He concludes that the Quranic verse commands women to cover their chests, not their heads.
According to El-Banna, the Prophet (PBUH) improved the status of women as much as he could given his cultural milieu. He also opened the door for further aspects of emancipation. However, the Arab society was reluctant to tolerate this new reality, so many of them started to make up ahadith that would maintain the status quo. Similarly, El-Banna says, there is no religious foundation that prevents women running for any elected office, including the presidency.
El-Banna dismisses accusations that he is calling on the faithful to abandon the Sunnah, but insists that the orally transmitted traditions of the Prophet (PBUH) are less binding on Muslims than the Qur’an itself.“We cannot deny the Sunnah, even though it has been proven that most of the sayings attributed to the Prophet (PBUH) have been made up, were narrated in other people’s words or were transmitted inaccurately. This does not mean that there are no true sayings that set many Islamic fundamental principles; what it does mean is that it’s high time to study the Sunnah in a different way,” El-Banna says.
Gamal el banna is sicko LOL but i agree with him on some points

I don't really like the salafie way, its so strict and they contradict islam in some aspects

They go so stubbron on some hadiths and ignore the rest

for example: according to some salafie " burkha is must on women" while many hadiths say" women didnt wear burkha on prophet times.

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