9_11 predicted in The Quran.

[Amp man]

Alen wrote:

<quoted text>They weren't? Are you sure?

I know you are a muzz with limited brain power
but I will try to help.Fortified towers mean towers for warfare.The Twin towers were for business.Until you islamic savage murdering evil beasts rammed large planes into them.

[Jules in the UK]

Alen wrote:

<quoted text>Nope. Bush and his father and CIA attacked USA on September 11th, 2001.

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Alen.
Its very strange you should say that becuase (may God forgive me) that was my first instinct too.
I do not condone what happened on 9/11. It was not right that all those people were killed and it is not the fault of the great people of America. 9/11 was an act of pure evil, committed by an insane extremist. Here and now, today, so many years on, I dont know what to think. But on that day, at that time, I seriously thought that George Bush junior was responsible. My main reason being:
I have travelled to, and even lived in Muslim and Islamic countries. One thing that the natives have in common is a gift of Languages. Almost everyone I met told me not to worry if I didnt pick up too much of the language, they spoke many.
The uk news reported that the CIA(or maybe the FBI) found an abandoned hire car. This car had been hired to someone from an Arabic nation.
Inside the hire car, they found a flight manual - written in ARABIC (???). This seemed like a classic 'Scooby Doo' clue to me.
Again. I do not condone the act of evil that took place on 9/11. I am sorry for all those who lost thier lives and for their families.
I just feel that anyone who is capable of organising somthing like that is unlikely to leave behind clues that stick out like sore thumbs and point in one specific direction.
It would have been just as easy for someone to have set up the Soviets with an abandoned car and a flight manual in Russian.
I dont recall too many US Presidents. I liked Clinton and I like Obama (not that I know much about them). I never liked George Bush senior, and his son seemed just as stupid.
It wouldnt surprise me if they were responsible for 9/11.

[Buford Hayse]

Jules in the UK wrote:

<quoted text>#
Alen.
Its very strange you should say that becuase (may God forgive me) that was my first instinct too.
I do not condone what happened on 9/11. It was not right that all those people were killed and it is not the fault of the great people of America. 9/11 was an act of pure evil, committed by an insane extremist. Here and now, today, so many years on, I dont know what to think. But on that day, at that time, I seriously thought that George Bush junior was responsible. My main reason being:
I have travelled to, and even lived in Muslim and Islamic countries. One thing that the natives have in common is a gift of Languages. Almost everyone I met told me not to worry if I didnt pick up too much of the language, they spoke many.
The uk news reported that the CIA(or maybe the FBI) found an abandoned hire car. This car had been hired to someone from an Arabic nation.
Inside the hire car, they found a flight manual - written in ARABIC (???). This seemed like a classic 'Scooby Doo' clue to me.
Again. I do not condone the act of evil that took place on 9/11. I am sorry for all those who lost thier lives and for their families.
I just feel that anyone who is capable of organising somthing like that is unlikely to leave behind clues that stick out like sore thumbs and point in one specific direction.
It would have been just as easy for someone to have set up the Soviets with an abandoned car and a flight manual in Russian.
I dont recall too many US Presidents. I liked Clinton and I like Obama (not that I know much about them). I never liked George Bush senior, and his son seemed just as stupid.
It wouldnt surprise me if they were responsible for 9/11.

The Top 9/11 Conspiracy Theories: http://www.america.gov/st/webchat-english/200...

[Alen]

Jules in the UK wrote:

<quoted text>#
Alen.
Its very strange you should say that becuase (may God forgive me) that was my first instinct too.
I do not condone what happened on 9/11. It was not right that all those people were killed and it is not the fault of the great people of America. 9/11 was an act of pure evil, committed by an insane extremist. Here and now, today, so many years on, I dont know what to think. But on that day, at that time, I seriously thought that George Bush junior was responsible. My main reason being:
I have travelled to, and even lived in Muslim and Islamic countries. One thing that the natives have in common is a gift of Languages. Almost everyone I met told me not to worry if I didnt pick up too much of the language, they spoke many.
The uk news reported that the CIA(or maybe the FBI) found an abandoned hire car. This car had been hired to someone from an Arabic nation.
Inside the hire car, they found a flight manual - written in ARABIC (???). This seemed like a classic 'Scooby Doo' clue to me.
Again. I do not condone the act of evil that took place on 9/11. I am sorry for all those who lost thier lives and for their families.
I just feel that anyone who is capable of organising somthing like that is unlikely to leave behind clues that stick out like sore thumbs and point in one specific direction.
It would have been just as easy for someone to have set up the Soviets with an abandoned car and a flight manual in Russian.
I dont recall too many US Presidents. I liked Clinton and I like Obama (not that I know much about them). I never liked George Bush senior, and his son seemed just as stupid.
It wouldnt surprise me if they were responsible for 9/11.

Same here, bro. I like USA, i love USA, my fioncee lives there and i'm a Muslim and i also like Clinton and Obama among some other US good presidents and i think that Bush did 9_11 or if he didn't do it, was somehow involved because there are too many weird stuff that happened on that horrible day.

I am horrified that someone would use my Faith to do such an act, i feel sorry for the families who lost their loved ones in 9_11 and i hope that God grants them Mercy and paradise.

Whoever did 9_11, is not normal, is definetely not a Believer, he is not a Muslim, not a Christian nor a Jew, thes epeople that did this are cold-hearted opportunists that want to sell guns and to do that you need a war and to start a war, you need a target.

[Alen]

I also believe that CIA and the White House created Al-Qaeda in the 80s and i'm sure you know that USA actually coopearted with taliban against the Russian during their invasion on Afghanistan.

I believe that CIA invented Obama bin Laden and hired some guy to portray this big time terrorist whacko and then had him in some room.

The best way to hunt a terrorist, is, if you create one and show him only when you capture him.

I think Bush wants to be recognised as a hero, so he sacrifised all those INNOCENT AMERICANS and of course INNOCENT IRAQIS to invade Iraq some more, after his father, steal oil and become a hero.

We need to reanalyze 9_11 and put Bush on the lie detector test.

[Native]

Alen
the quran is NOT part of any thing it is an ADDED book that God said NOT to add in revelation 22 at the end of the bible he said DO NOT ADD TO THIS BOOK OR TAKE AWAY FROM IT.
The old testament was to the JEWS and the NEW testament was given to the christians THERE ARE NO OTHER BOOKS the muslims invented their own book and they want others to follow it and we will NEVER follow it because its NOT from God.
The quran does NOT confirm the bible in fact the quran LIES about the bible because the bible says Jesus died on the cross and that he rose again and that he died for the sins of the world and the quran says Jesus did not die so it contradicts the Bible so it cannot be from God.

Alen wrote:

<quoted text>I'm saying that The Bible is from The Exalted God as well as Abraham's Pages and Torah given to Moses and The Quran given to Muhammad.
But, Torah was given to the chosen people - Jews and Gospel was given to People of The Book - Christians.
The Quran - being the Last testament - confirms all The Books prior it and revives what has been corrupted, hidden, destroyed or forgotten.
You will notice that The Quran and The Buible have many similarities, right?

[Native]

ALEN
now prove all your accusations and what happens if bush passes the lie detective test? what if he is NOT lying? will you apologize?

Alen wrote:

I also believe that CIA and the White House created Al-Qaeda in the 80s and i'm sure you know that USA actually coopearted with taliban against the Russian during their invasion on Afghanistan.
I believe that CIA invented Obama bin Laden and hired some guy to portray this big time terrorist whacko and then had him in some room.
The best way to hunt a terrorist, is, if you create one and show him only when you capture him.
I think Bush wants to be recognised as a hero, so he sacrifised all those INNOCENT AMERICANS and of course INNOCENT IRAQIS to invade Iraq some more, after his father, steal oil and become a hero.
We need to reanalyze 9_11 and put Bush on the lie detector test.

[Native]

Alen
the word CHRISTian means CHRIST FOLLOWER you really should learn before you say some things Jesus talked about the trinity in matthew 28 verse 19 when he said to baptize in the name of the father, son, holy spirit.

Alen wrote:

<quoted text>Because jews use to be Monotheists like Muslims and they followed ONLY The Torah. Later generations added mishna and gemarah to it, just like Muslims added sunna and hadith to The Quran.
Jews made an exit from Judaism and became zionists and Muslims made an exit from islam and became sunnis, shias, wahabis,...whatever.
People of The Book also made an exit from Christianity and added trinity to The Bible and chose a new name: Christians, then those split into more groups: catholics, protestants, episcopalians, mormons, jehowas witnesses,....

[Alen]

Native wrote:

Alen
the quran is NOT part of any thing it is an ADDED book that God said NOT to add in revelation 22 at the end of the bible he said DO NOT ADD TO THIS BOOK OR TAKE AWAY FROM IT.
The old testament was to the JEWS and the NEW testament was given to the christians THERE ARE NO OTHER BOOKS the muslims invented their own book and they want others to follow it and we will NEVER follow it because its NOT from God.
The quran does NOT confirm the bible in fact the quran LIES about the bible because the bible says Jesus died on the cross and that he rose again and that he died for the sins of the world and the quran says Jesus did not die so it contradicts the Bible so it cannot be from God.
<quoted text>

But then how come The Quran DOES confirm some stuff from The Bible? Why would they copy part of The Bible and then lie regarding the crucifixion? Why?
Who would benefit from it, who had such a power to do that and how come God didn't interfere? Or did He?

[Alen]

Native wrote:

ALEN
now prove all your accusations and what happens if bush passes the lie detective test? what if he is NOT lying? will you apologize?
<quoted text>

Well, we must first see Bush in court and on live TV on the lie detector test, tlaking and looking camera in the lenses. When i see THAT proof, then we'll tlak further. God willing.

[Alen]

Native wrote:

Alen
the word CHRISTian means CHRIST FOLLOWER you really should learn before you say some things Jesus talked about the trinity in matthew 28 verse 19 when he said to baptize in the name of the father, son, holy spirit.
<quoted text>

I know he tlaked about the father, the son and the holy spirit, but did he or anyone else use the word trinity?

[Native]

Alen
It does not confirm anything but the virgin birth of CHRIST. Why would they lie? Satan does not want people to believe the truth because if you believe the truth then satan loses you and he hates Christ and he had mohammed lie about the crucifixion because CHRIST did die on the cross and he did rise again 3 days later and he is coming back as SAVIOR and if satan can keep you in these lies then he will have won you.
SATAN would benefit from it thats who would. The more who believe Christ did not die are the more he wins on his side into hell because the bible says those who deny Jesus death and resurrection will see hell fire. God is not going to stop you from believing lies he will show you truth if you are open to it and by the way I am not sure if you know this but I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN I was raised agnostic and its only been in the last several months I been searching and I am finding the answers in the Bible and I asked God to show me and he is. Satan HATES God and he will take as many people to hell as he can and I pray you wake up before its to late like I HAVE been waking up.See satan knows that taking people to hell hurts God because GOD LOVES YOU AND ME he does not want us in hell but if we fall for the lies of satan he cannot make us change but he will give us a way out if we are open to it.

Alen wrote:

<quoted text>But then how come The Quran DOES confirm some stuff from The Bible? Why would they copy part of The Bible and then lie regarding the crucifixion? Why?
Who would benefit from it, who had such a power to do that and how come God didn't interfere? Or did He?

[Native]

Alen
the actual word trinity is NOT in the Bible but the concept of it is. In other words trinity means TRIUNE. A triangle is TRUINE it has 3 points but makes ONE triangle all the points meet together. Same thing with God there is only ONE God but there are 3 attributes to God the father, son, and holy SPirit. Jesus never came out and used certain words that people are alot of times looking for and they think because he did not that they are not true but if you go back and start reading the new testament you will find alot of times Jesus talked this way because he knew that HIS followers would understand these things and he even said in John 14 that the UNGODLY will not accept him or understand

15-17"If you love me, show it by doing what I've told you. I will talk to the Father, and he'll provide you another Friend so that you will always have someone with you. This Friend is the Spirit of Truth. The godless world can't take him in because it doesn't have eyes to see him, doesn't know what to look for. But you know him already because he has been staying with you, and will even be in you!

Alen these are the verses the muslims like to take and put muhammed in and say muhammed was the COMFORTER but yet Jesus plainly says he is sending the HOLY SPIRIT not muhammed. Jesus never sent muhammed and neither did God. Muhammed came on his own and he was the false prophet that Jesus warned about in Matthew 24 which I will also post for you.
Here is the verse that Jesus himself says who he is sending

25-27"I'm telling you these things while I'm still living with you. The Friend, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send at my request, will make everything plain to you. He will remind you of all the things I have told you. I'm leaving you well and whole. That's my parting gift to you. Peace. I don't leave you the way you're used to being left—feeling abandoned, bereft. So don't be upset. Don't be distraught.

NOW here is the verse also for the FALSE PROPHETS THAT WILL COME AND JESUS WARNED US ABOUT THEM

24For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

[enough42]

Alen wrote:

4:78 Wherever you may be, death will find you, even if you are in fortified towers. If any good befalls them, they say:“This is from God,” and if any bad befalls them, they say:“This is from you!” Say:“All is from God;” what is wrong with these people, they barely understand anything said!

according to this verse: Say:“All is from God;” then allen you are saying that allah ordered the destruction of 9/11

[Alen]

I believe in messenger Jesus to be a human and not the son of God, i believ ein all the messengers and all the prophets from God and i believe in the Messages they were sent with.

I disagree with Jews and Christians regarding the crucifixion and soem other stuff but i respect them all.

I also know that many false prophets and messengers came after Jesus and even today. Tha latest is Rashad Khalifa, US citizen, killed in Tucson, Arizona. He's got many followers even among us Muslims and you can find out more on the free midns forum.

I believe that many of these false prophets and messengers wanted to be THE LAST so that they can have the upper hand and abuse the power and use the people, but when you look at the biography of messenger Muhammad in The Quran, you will notice - God willing - that Muhamamd was merciful, compassionate and kind, he was not sinister or arrogant as portrayed in the sahih bukhary and sahih muslim, which are lies against him.

By the way, enough42, God did not order 9_11, satan mislead them.

[george whyte]

Alen wrote:

I believe in messenger Jesus to be a human and not the son of God, i believ ein all the messengers and all the prophets from God and i believe in the Messages they were sent with.
I disagree with Jews and Christians regarding the crucifixion and soem other stuff but i respect them all.
I also know that many false prophets and messengers came after Jesus and even today. Tha latest is Rashad Khalifa, US citizen, killed in Tucson, Arizona. He's got many followers even among us Muslims and you can find out more on the free midns forum.
I believe that many of these false prophets and messengers wanted to be THE LAST so that they can have the upper hand and abuse the power and use the people, but when you look at the biography of messenger Muhammad in The Quran, you will notice - God willing - that Muhamamd was merciful, compassionate and kind, he was not sinister or arrogant as portrayed in the sahih bukhary and sahih muslim, which are lies against him.
By the way, enough42, God did not order 9_11, satan mislead them.

brain washed fool...

064.014
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Truly, among your wives and your children are (some that are) enemies to yourselves: so beware of them! But if ye forgive and overlook, and cover up (their faults), verily Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Lo! among your wives and your children there are enemies for you, therefor beware of them. And if ye efface and overlook and forgive, then lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
SHAKIR: O you who believe! surely from among your wives and your children there is an enemy to you; therefore beware of them; and if you pardon and forbear and forgive, then surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[george whyte]

Qur'an 64:14 "Believers, truly, among your wives and your children there are enemies for you: so beware of them!... Your wealth and your children are only a trial."

Qur'an 8:28 "And know that your property and your children are just a temptation."

Qur'an 4:135 "Believers, stand out for justice as witnesses for Allah even against yourselves, your parents, your family, and relatives whether it be against rich or poor."

Qur'an 9:23 "Believers, take not for friends your fathers and your brothers if they love disbelief above belief. If you do, you do wrong. Say: If your fathers, your sons, your families, your wives, relatives and property which you have acquired, and the slackness of trade which you fear and dwellings which you like, are dearer to you than Allah and His Messenger and striving hard, fighting in His Cause, then wait till Allah brings about His torment."

[Simon]

Muslims should take credit for all the violence in the Koran. 9/11, 7/7, Spain, Bahli, France burning, China violence. You know it's in the koran.

[Native]

Alen
let me ask you something because I am NOT a christian either and I do believe Jesus died on the cross. What if you die and find out you been lied to and Jesus did die on the cross?

Alen wrote:

I believe in messenger Jesus to be a human and not the son of God, i believ ein all the messengers and all the prophets from God and i believe in the Messages they were sent with.
I disagree with Jews and Christians regarding the crucifixion and soem other stuff but i respect them all.
I also know that many false prophets and messengers came after Jesus and even today. Tha latest is Rashad Khalifa, US citizen, killed in Tucson, Arizona. He's got many followers even among us Muslims and you can find out more on the free midns forum.
I believe that many of these false prophets and messengers wanted to be THE LAST so that they can have the upper hand and abuse the power and use the people, but when you look at the biography of messenger Muhammad in The Quran, you will notice - God willing - that Muhamamd was merciful, compassionate and kind, he was not sinister or arrogant as portrayed in the sahih bukhary and sahih muslim, which are lies against him.
By the way, enough42, God did not order 9_11, satan mislead them.

[Alen]

Native wrote:

Alen
let me ask you something because I am NOT a christian either and I do believe Jesus died on the cross. What if you die and find out you been lied to and Jesus did die on the cross?
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If? That's the problem. I hope and pray and ask God to Guide me. I'm working towards betterment of my soul. I believ ethat i am on the Straight Path but only God knows Best, right?
Everyone should ask God for guidance. I ask God for guidance.

To answer you: what would i be able to do before God? Would i be able to protect myself?

But let me ask you this: what if you discovered before God that i was right and that you were wrong?
With all due respect.