Muslims say, "Islam forbids"

[KAOSKTRL]

Islam forbids the killing of innocent people"
Please provide scripture to proves unequivocally non muslims are innocent
Shirk is worse than Killing



Since Jihad involves killing and shedding the blood of men, Allah indicated that these men are committing disbelief in Allah, associating with Him (in the worship) and hindering from His path, and this is a much greater evil and more disastrous than killing. Abu Malik commented about what Allah said:

(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) Meaning what you (disbelievers) are committing is much worse than killing.'' Abu Al-`Aliyah, Mujahid, Sa`id bin Jubayr,`Ikrimah, Al-Hasan, Qatadah, Ad-Dahhak and Ar-Rabi` bin Anas said that what Allah said:
(And Al-Fitnah is worse than killing.) "Shirk (polytheism) is worse than killing.''

2:191.
And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah[] is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Harâm (the sanctuary at Makkah),[] unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.
2:192.
But if they cease, then Allâh is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
2:193.
And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allâh) and (all and every kind of) worship is for Allâh (Alone).[] But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zâlimûn (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)
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2:194.
The sacred month is for the sacred month, and for the prohibited things, there is the Law of Equality (Qisâs). Then whoever transgresses the prohibition against you, you transgress likewise against him. And fear Allâh, and know that Allâh is with Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2).
2:195.
And spend in the Cause of Allâh (i.e. Jihâd of all kinds, etc.) and do not throw yourselves into destruction (by not spending your wealth in the Cause of Allâh), and do good. Truly, Allâh loves Al-Muhsinûn[](the good-doers).

[KAOSKTRL]

What the hell?
I was sure the believers would be happy to explain this?

[KAOSKTRL]

Um... Islam still says "killing innocent people is forbidden in Islam"

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[KAOSKTRL]

Im thinking the believers will come here after a night at the bomb factory and they will come through

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[KAOSKTRL]

Muslims like to say "Islam forbids the killing of innocent people"
Please provide scripture to proves unequivocally non muslims are innocent
Shirk is worse than Killing

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[Ha Ha]

KAOSKTRL wrote:

Muslims like to say "Islam forbids the killing of innocent people"
Please provide scripture to proves unequivocally non muslims are innocent
Shirk is worse than Killing
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"A woman (was made to) enter (Hell) Fire because of a cat which she tied, neither giving it food nor setting it free to eat from the vermin of the earth." (Reported by Al-Bukhari)

If such is Islamic ruling concerning aggressive acts against animals, then, with greater reason, the punishment is bond to be severe when human being happens to be the victim of aggression, torture and terrorism.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite...

Please read the link. It is uop to you whether you want to accept or reject for there is no compulsion in religion as the truth stands distinct from error

[Easter Bunny]

Ha Ha wrote:

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"A woman (was made to) enter (Hell) Fire because of a cat which she tied, neither giving it food nor setting it free to eat from the vermin of the earth." (Reported by Al-Bukhari)
If such is Islamic ruling concerning aggressive acts against animals, then, with greater reason, the punishment is bond to be severe when human being happens to be the victim of aggression, torture and terrorism.
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite...
Please read the link. It is uop to you whether you want to accept or reject for there is no compulsion in religion as the truth stands distinct from error

Again, you have not even tried to PRETEND to answer the question.

[zap]

They kicked Ha Ha out of Hell they DON'T want him there! EVER!!! that's why we are stuck with him.

[Watching in the Wings]

Ha Ha wrote:

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"A woman (was made to) enter (Hell) Fire because of a cat which she tied, neither giving it food nor setting it free to eat from the vermin of the earth." (Reported by Al-Bukhari)
If such is Islamic ruling concerning aggressive acts against animals, then, with greater reason, the punishment is bond to be severe when human being happens to be the victim of aggression, torture and terrorism.
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite...
Please read the link. It is uop to you whether you want to accept or reject for there is no compulsion in religion as the truth stands distinct from error

So where does this leave Muhammed who WAS aggressive against people who insulted him and despised his new religion?

And the cat story is not about aggression, it is about neglect. The woman was neglecting God's creature and causing it to suffer. Aggression would be along the lines of severing its head, like Muhammed revealed he would do for Allah.

Allah obviously was a bit schizo because he said that it was ok to Kill in the Quran and then said it was wrong.

Allah is NOT the God of Abraham, Allah is a different entity altogether.

[KAOSKTRL]

He said is was not ok to kill muslims and the POB everyone else is fair game, they decided the POB had to go too.
The order of things matters

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[KAOSKTRL]

Islam forbids the killing of innocent people"
Please provide scripture to proves unequivocally non muslims are innocent

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[KAOSKTRL]

Islam forbids the killing of ":innocent people"
Please provide scripture to proves unequivocally non muslims are innocent

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[Just Me]

KAOSKTRL wrote:

Islam forbids the killing of ":innocent people"
Please provide scripture to proves unequivocally non muslims are innocent
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Be careful... they might actually NOT find it...

[KAOSKTRL]

Yes God teaches it is what comes out of a mans mouth that harms him not what goes into it, Though I dont remember Chapter and verse.

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[Just Me]

KAOSKTRL wrote:

Yes God teaches it is what comes out of a mans mouth that harms him not what goes into it, Though I dont remember Chapter and verse.
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somewhere in James

[KAOSKTRL]

Just Me wrote:

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somewhere in James

But where in the Quran does it say non believers are innocent?
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[Ha Ha]

Kaosktrl, Pls read thru this. This is the tafsir Ibn Kathir regarding your question

http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php...

[Ha Ha]

“It is WE who have sent down the reminder (The Quran) and WE will preserve it “(15:9).

This is the exalted Book (the Qur'an), in which there is no place for doubt; a guidance for the PIOUS(Mutaqeen).[2:2]

[KAOSKTRL]

Ha Ha wrote:

Kaosktrl, Pls read thru this. This is the tafsir Ibn Kathir regarding your question
http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php...

Shirk is worse than Killing
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp... the Jews and Christians is legislated because They are Idolators and Disbelievers
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp...
Paying Jizyah is a Sign of Kufr and Disgrace
http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp...

Please provide scripture that abrogates or cancels these concepts ,they appear to be open ended and for all time.

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[KAOSKTRL]

I guess its not so funny now is it?
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