8-year-old Yemeni child dies at hands...

8-year-old Yemeni child dies at hands of 40-year-old husband

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Atheist Silurist

Gloucester, UK

#1 Sep 9, 2013
An eight year old child bride died in Yemen on her wedding night after suffering internal injuries due to sexual trauma. Human rights organizations are calling for the arrest of her husband who was five times her age.

The death occurred in the tribal area of Hardh in northwestern Yemen, which borders Saudi Arabia. This brings even more attention to the already existing issue of forced child marriages in the Middle Eastern region.

http://www.albawaba.com/editorchoice/yemen-ch...
Atheist Silurist

Gloucester, UK

#2 Sep 9, 2013
In February 2009, a law was created that set the minimum age for marriage at 17. Unfortunately, it was repealed after more conservative lawmakers called it un-Islamic.

They are right about it being un-Islamic.

Empathy,morality,compassion all seem to be un-Islamic,along with basic human rights for women and girls.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#3 Sep 9, 2013
This is what islam has to offer the world: child mutilation, child torture, child rape, child murder.

The so called 'moderate' muslims will lie and deny that these atrocities run rampant in their communities and countries.

The internet has put the truth to islamic intent. They can't get away with the lies anymore.
Hello

College Point, NY

#4 Sep 10, 2013
And quick divorces- these Pervs are going around marrying underage girls to have sex in temporary marriages.

Then all they have to do to divorce is say "divorce" 3 times!

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#6 Sep 10, 2013
Hello wrote:
And quick divorces- these Pervs are going around marrying underage girls to have sex in temporary marriages.
Then all they have to do to divorce is say "divorce" 3 times!
Temporary marriage? That's not marriage. That's prostitution.
george whyte

Immingham, UK

#7 Sep 11, 2013
Why did this little girl die? Because of something that is sanctioned by Islamic law. But to oppose this practice and say it should be stopped is "un-Islamic." So more girls will die. Better dead than "Islamophobic."

Few things are more abundantly attested in Islamic law than the permissibility of child marriage. Islamic tradition records that Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was six when Muhammad wedded her and nine when he consummated the marriage:

“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)”(Bukhari 7.62.88).
Another tradition has Aisha herself recount the scene:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said,“Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.(Bukhari 5.58.234).
Muhammad was at this time fifty-four years old.

Marrying young girls was not all that unusual for its time, but because in Islam Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur’an 33:21), he is considered exemplary in this unto today. And so in April 2011, the Bangladesh Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini declared that those trying to pass a law banning child marriage in that country were putting Muhammad in a bad light:“Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam…[putting] the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.” He added a threat:“Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.” The Mufti said that 200,000 jihadists were ready to sacrifice their lives for any law restricting child marriage.

Likewise the influential website Islamonline.com in December 2010 justified child marriage by invoking not only Muhammad’s example, but the Qur’an as well:

The Noble Qur’an has also mentioned the waiting period [i.e. for a divorced wife to remarry] for the wife who has not yet menstruated, saying:“And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women—if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated”[Qur’an 65:4]. Since this is not negated later, we can take from this verse that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl. The Qur’an is not like the books of jurisprudence which mention what the implications of things are, even if they are prohibited. It is true that the prophet entered into a marriage contract with A’isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old, according to al-Bukhari.
Hello

College Point, NY

#8 Sep 11, 2013
george whyte wrote:
Why did this little girl die? Because of something that is sanctioned by Islamic law. But to oppose this practice and say it should be stopped is "un-Islamic." So more girls will die. Better dead than "Islamophobic."
Few things are more abundantly attested in Islamic law than the permissibility of child marriage. Islamic tradition records that Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was six when Muhammad wedded her and nine when he consummated the marriage:
“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)”(Bukhari 7.62.88).
Another tradition has Aisha herself recount the scene:
The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said,“Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.(Bukhari 5.58.234).
Muhammad was at this time fifty-four years old.
Marrying young girls was not all that unusual for its time, but because in Islam Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur’an 33:21), he is considered exemplary in this unto today. And so in April 2011, the Bangladesh Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini declared that those trying to pass a law banning child marriage in that country were putting Muhammad in a bad light:“Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam…[putting] the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.” He added a threat:“Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.” The Mufti said that 200,000 jihadists were ready to sacrifice their lives for any law restricting child marriage.
Likewise the influential website Islamonline.com in December 2010 justified child marriage by invoking not only Muhammad’s example, but the Qur’an as well:
The Noble Qur’an has also mentioned the waiting period [i.e. for a divorced wife to remarry] for the wife who has not yet menstruated, saying:“And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women—if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated”[Qur’an 65:4]. Since this is not negated later, we can take from this verse that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl. The Qur’an is not like the books of jurisprudence which mention what the implications of things are, even if they are prohibited. It is true that the prophet entered into a marriage contract with A’isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old, according to al-Bukhari.
Of course -- not to mention banning anyone from criticizing Mohammad or the Quran. Islamic censorship is what we have to fear the most.

Freedom of speech must in no way be curtailed -- this protects nonmuslims from Islamic propaganda.

Mohammad was a sick guy with a sick religion.
victoria

High Wycombe, UK

#9 Sep 11, 2013
First off mohammed was a prophet so surely him marrying a child is different to a normal man marrying a child.Also although you can be married to a girl whilst shes still a very young child i believe that the child dosen't have to live and consumate the marriage till ahe is at least 14 not ideal but less likely to cause internal injuries.Unfotunately islam gives pedophiles the right to marry these little girls to lets face it pedophiles otherwise why couldnt they marry adult women there are muslim men who actually prefer to marry adult women because they are attracted to the adult female form instead of the infant body of a child that is not supposed to be found as sexy if you do find it sexy then there is something wrong with you it is not normal.And eight is not the right age to become a wife.Yo should wait even if the girl dosen't have entire right to who she marrys they can at the very least marry her to someone who isn't old enough to be her grandad and ensure she live with you untill she is consdiered old enough to be sexually active with her husband some men even wait longer so she dosent get pregnant while shes studying at school it is not neccesary that you have to consumate the marraige immediately.
Atheist Silurist

Gloucester, UK

#10 Sep 11, 2013
victoria wrote:
First off mohammed was a prophet so surely him marrying a child is different to a normal man marrying a child.Also although you can be married to a girl whilst shes still a very young child i believe that the child dosen't have to live and consumate the marriage till ahe is at least 14 not ideal but less likely to cause internal injuries.Unfotunately islam gives pedophiles the right to marry these little girls to lets face it pedophiles otherwise why couldnt they marry adult women there are muslim men who actually prefer to marry adult women because they are attracted to the adult female form instead of the infant body of a child that is not supposed to be found as sexy if you do find it sexy then there is something wrong with you it is not normal.And eight is not the right age to become a wife.Yo should wait even if the girl dosen't have entire right to who she marrys they can at the very least marry her to someone who isn't old enough to be her grandad and ensure she live with you untill she is consdiered old enough to be sexually active with her husband some men even wait longer so she dosent get pregnant while shes studying at school it is not neccesary that you have to consumate the marraige immediately.
There is no way of dressing this thing up. It is a repugnant act,sanctioned by repugnant men,in the name of a repugnant religion.
Passing a law that would set a minimum age on marriage to stop the rape and torture of little girls. Un-islamic? I think that says it all. If it's un-islamic, it is the best rallying call for any moral person to be un-islamic.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#11 Sep 12, 2013
victoria wrote:
First off mohammed was a prophet so surely him marrying a child is different to a normal man marrying a child ...
Jim Jones was also a "prophet" who also took sexual liberties with his flock of followers, but how does that justify what eventually happend to hundreds of them at Jonestown, Guyana?
victoria

High Wycombe, UK

#12 Sep 12, 2013
Atheist Silurist wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no way of dressing this thing up. It is a repugnant act,sanctioned by repugnant men,in the name of a repugnant religion.
Passing a law that would set a minimum age on marriage to stop the rape and torture of little girls. Un-islamic? I think that says it all. If it's un-islamic, it is the best rallying call for any moral person to be un-islamic.
I am not dressing it up in any way i hate islam and all it stands for and although i have met perfectly nice decent muslims i still think they are misguided it's not their fault if it's been drummed in to them from babyhood dont question islam just do what the imam tells you.But i dont think marrying little children is unaccepatable ithink what can happen to little girls and grown women in the name of following their silly evil sick misoginistic relegion is deplorable.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#13 Sep 13, 2013
victoria wrote:
First off mohammed was a prophet so surely him marrying a child is different to a normal man marrying a child.Also although you can be married to a girl whilst shes still a very young child i believe that the child dosen't have to live and consumate the marriage till ahe is at least 14 not ideal but less likely to cause internal injuries.Unfotunately islam gives pedophiles the right to marry these little girls to lets face it pedophiles otherwise why couldnt they marry adult women there are muslim men who actually prefer to marry adult women because they are attracted to the adult female form instead of the infant body of a child that is not supposed to be found as sexy if you do find it sexy then there is something wrong with you it is not normal.And eight is not the right age to become a wife.Yo should wait even if the girl dosen't have entire right to who she marrys they can at the very least marry her to someone who isn't old enough to be her grandad and ensure she live with you untill she is consdiered old enough to be sexually active with her husband some men even wait longer so she dosent get pregnant while shes studying at school it is not neccesary that you have to consumate the marraige immediately.
No, he wasn't a prophet. That's just how muslims justify their continued abuse of children. If anything, calling him a prophet makes his abuses even worse than that of a typical person. He should be held to a higher standard. Instead, he raped, murdered and pillaged his way through life and changed the rules to suit himself.

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