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Will children who die young go to Paradise or Hell?

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ashkarlives4ALLA H

Yemen

#1 Dec 16, 2012
Will ALL children that died before the age of account go to jena OR will only the children of the muslim parents?

Praise be to Allaah.

We may divide this issue, in sha Allaah, into two parts:

Firstly: the fate of the children of the Muslims.

Secondly: the fate of the children of the kuffaar.

With regard to the first part, the fate of the children of the Muslims:

Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: With regard to the children of the believers, there is no dispute among the scholars. Al-Qaadi Abu Ya’laa ibn al-Farraa’ al-Hanbali narrated that Imaam Ahmad said: there is no dispute concerning the fact that they will be among the people of Paradise. This is what is well known among people (i.e., the majority of scholars) and this is what we are definitely sure about, in sha Allaah.(Tafseer al-Qur’aan al-‘Azeem, 3/33).

Imaam Ahmad (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: who has any doubts that the children of the Muslims will be in Paradise?!

He also said: there is no difference among them on this matter.(Haashiyat Ibn al-Qayyim ‘ala Sunan Abi Dawood, 7/83).

Imaam al-Nawawi said: the reliable Muslim scholars agreed that any Muslim child who dies will be among the people of Paradise, because he was not responsible (i.e., had not yet reached the age of account).(Sharh Muslim, 16/207).

Al-Qurtubi said: the view that they will be in Paradise is the view of the majority. And he said: some scholars denounced any dispute concerning them.(al-Tadhkirah, 2/328).

With regard to the second part, the fate of the children of the kuffaar:

The scholars differed concerning this matter, and there are several views:

That they will be in Paradise. Some of them said, they will be in al-A’raaf [a place between Paradise and Hell]. And the reason why it was said that they will be in Paradise is because this is the ultimate destiny of the people of al-A’raaf. This is the view of the majority of scholars, as reported from them by Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr in al-Tamheed, 18/96.
ashkarlives4ALLA H

Yemen

#2 Dec 16, 2012
Their evidence (daleel):

The hadeeth of Samurah (may Allaah be pleased with him), that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw the children of the Muslims and the children of the Mushrikeen with Ibraaheem (peace be upon him). Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6640.

Hasnaa’ bint Mu’aawiyyah from Bani Suraym said: my paternal uncle told me: I said, O Messenger of Allaah, who will be in Paradise? He said: Prophets will be in Paradise, martyrs will be in Paradise, infants will be in Paradise and baby girls who were buried alive will be in Paradise. Narrated by Imaam Ahmad, 5/409; classed as da’eef by al-Albaani in Da’eef al-Jaami’, 5997.

That they will be with their parents in Hell. Al-Qaadi Abu Ya’laa attributed this view to Ahmad! But Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) pointed out that this was a grave error. See Haashiyat Ibn al-Qayyim ‘ala Sunan Abi Dawood, 7/87.

Their evidence (daleel):

Salamah ibn Qays al-Ashja’i said: my brother and I came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said that our mother had died during the Jaahiliyyah, and that she had honoured her guests and upheld the ties of kinship, but that she had buried alive a sister of ours during the Jaahiliyyah who had not reached the age of puberty. He said: the one who was buried and the one who buried her are in Hell, unless Islam reached the one who buried the child alive and she became Muslim.

The hadeeth was classed as hasan by Ibn Katheer in al-Tafseer, 3/33, and before him by Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr in al-Tamheed, 18/120.

There are other ahaadeeth, but they are da’eef (weak).

Not giving any opinion on this matter. This is the view of Hammaad ibn Zayd, Hammaad ibn Salamah, Ibn al-Mubaarak and Ishaaq ibn Raahawayh.

Their evidence (daleel):

According to Ibn ‘Abbaas, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was asked about the children of the mushrikeen, and he said,“Allaah knows best what they would have done.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1383, and Muslim, 2660.

There is a similar hadeeth narrated by Abu Hurayrah. Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1384, and Muslim, 2659.

Some scholars say that they (the children of the mushrikeen) will be the servants of the people of Paradise.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: there is no basis for this view.(Majmoo’ al-Fataawaa, 4/279)
ashkarlives4ALLA H

Yemen

#4 Dec 16, 2012
The phrase “Allaah knows best what they would have done” indicates that Allaah knows what they would have done if they had lived. The ones who obey Him at the time of the test are the ones who would have obeyed Him if they had lived in this world, and those ones who disobey Him at that time are the ones who would have disobeyed Him if they had lived in this world. This indicates that He knows about what does not happen and how it would have been if it had happened. And Allaah knows best.(Haashiyat Ibn al-Qayyim ‘ala Sunan Abi Dawood, 7/87).

The ahaadeeth quoted above stating that they will either be in Paradise or in Hell do not contradict what we believe is more likely to be correct. Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: the ahaadeeth about them being tested is more specific. Whoever Allaah knows will obey Him, He puts his soul in al-Barzakh with Ibraaheem and the children of the Muslims who died in a state of Fitrah, and whoever He knows will not obey Him Him, his case rests with Allaah, and on the Day of Resurrection he will be in Hell, as is indicated in the ahaadeeth about the test and as reported by al-Ash’ari from the scholars of Sunnah. Al-Tafseer, 3/33.

The phrase “Allaah knows best what they would have done” does not mean that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was not giving an opinion.

Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The evidence used by this group needs further examination. The answer of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) does not mean that he did not want to give an opinion; rather, he was attributing the knowledge of what they would have done if they had lived to Allaah. This was the answer to the question of how they could be with their fathers when they had no deeds in their records – which is part of the hadeeth. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) attributed the knowledge of what they would have done to Allaah; he did not say, Allaah knows best where they will be. This evidence does not support the opinion of this group. And Allaah knows best.
ashkarlives4ALLA H

Yemen

#5 Dec 16, 2012
First of all, I would like you to extend my condolence to your friend and give her glad tidings that this girl will be a protection for her on the Day of Judgment. This is what the Prophet (peace be pong him) told us in his hadith that the children of believers will intercede for their parents on the Day of Judgment (Muslim).

As per the question you gave, I would like to clarify matters for you, that according to the Qur’an and the hadiths of the Prophet (peace be upon him) children who die before reaching the age of puberty will follow the parent with the most honored religion. Therefore, the children of believers will end in Paradise. This is proven in the verse that says what means:

*{And they who believe and whose seed follow them in faith, We cause their seed to join them (there)…}*(At-Tur 52:21)

Also, it is reported that a man approached Abu Hurairah and told him that he has just lost his two sons. The man further asked Abu Hurairah to tell him a hadith or something regarding his case so that his sadness may decrease. Abu Hurairah said: "I heard the Prophet peace be upon him saying that the children are the da`amees (small fish) of Paradise. Each of them will meet his father or his parents and take him by his cloth- or by his hand- and never stop until Allah permits both of them into Paradise" (Muslim.)

One important thing that may come to your mind is what is the destiny of the children of non-Muslims? The answer is very simple. The most accurate opinion goes that the destiny of the children of non-Muslims is also Paradise. This is proven also by the hadith of the Prophet when he saw in a dream a garden wherein there is a man surrounded by many children, the man was Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) and children are all children who die before the age of puberty. Commenting on this, the Companions inquired,“Including the children of polytheists?” and the Prophet (peace be upon him) replied,“Yes, including the children of polytheists.”(Al Bukhari)

In addition, we can simply say that Allah’s justice and mercy are beyond description. It is by His justice that He saves the kids of unbelievers from the Hellfire because they are originally born on fitrah (innate or pure nature) which is Islam. Of course, those children have no hand in what their fathers are. They are not to be blamed for the sins of their fathers because it is recorded in the Qur’an that each person shall be held accountable for what he or she has committed.
ashkarlives4ALLA H

Yemen

#6 Dec 16, 2012
The message here is so clear and we can read it in another way. Allah wants all people to enter Paradise but it is by their own ignorance and handiwork that people choose the other option. In fact, He wants all of us to be blessed, and He closes all the chances for punishment. Even when a child dies before he reaches the age of legal responsibility, he is not reckoned for what his parents are, because it is not his own handiwork to be born to a non-Muslim family.

Besides, if the father or the mother are Muslims, and lose their children in infancy, Allah Almighty makes this child an interceder for his parents on the Day of Judgment and thus saving more people from the punishment of Allah. Allah’s mercy embraces everything and encompasses every aspect of life. Allah says in the Qur'an what means:

*{…My mercy embraceth all things…}*(Al-A`raf 7:156)

The patience these parents show for losing a child, and the agony they go through cannot be left without compensation. The compensation is really magnificent. The one you think you lose when taken by death in this world will be the same one bringing salvation to you in the afterlife. Moreover, the Prophet (peace and be upon him) said: "If a child passes away, Allah says to His Angels,'Did you take the soul of My servant's child?' And the Angels would say,'Yes'. Thereupon Allah would say to them,'Did you take away the apple of his/her heart?''Yes,' the angels would reply. Then Allah asks them,'And what did my servant say?' And the Angels would say:'He/she has thanked You and committed all his/her affairs to You.' Then Allah would say:'Then build a house in Paradise for My servant and name it the "House of Thankfulness." (At-Tirmidhi)

So, the apparent loss shows to be infinite gain in the end. It is only because of our limitedness that we cannot see this bright aspect.
Lena

Wanniassa, Australia

#7 Dec 16, 2012
all children go to heaven ashkar, they are all innocent of sin

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#8 Dec 17, 2012
Lena wrote:
all children go to heaven ashkar, they are all innocent of sin
Indeed.

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#9 Dec 17, 2012
Lena wrote:
all children go to heaven ashkar, they are all innocent of sin
but evil child like you will not go to heaven lol
Lena

Wanniassa, Australia

#10 Dec 17, 2012
Egyptian_lad wrote:
<quoted text> but evil child like you will not go to heaven lol
so if im evil what are u???

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#11 Dec 17, 2012
Lena wrote:
<quoted text>
so if im evil what are u???
angelic ya habla

u became regular on islam forum...wannabe muslim? huh?
Lena

Wanniassa, Australia

#12 Dec 17, 2012
Egyptian_lad wrote:
<quoted text> angelic ya habla
u became regular on islam forum...wannabe muslim? huh?
wannabe muslim?? naaaahh don't think so, and why does my presence here bother you?

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#13 Dec 17, 2012
Lena wrote:
<quoted text>
wannabe muslim?? naaaahh don't think so, and why does my presence here bother you?
it doesnt...why u think so?
Lena

Wanniassa, Australia

#14 Dec 17, 2012
Egyptian_lad wrote:
<quoted text>it doesnt...why u think so?
because u keep mentioning it, that's why, seems it bothers us for some reason

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#15 Dec 17, 2012
Lena wrote:
<quoted text>
because u keep mentioning it, that's why, seems it bothers us for some reason
worry for urself only greek

i just noticed you come on this forum alot thats all,supposedly people who join here have interest in religions but u only look for joke and sharmouta talk lol
Lena

Wanniassa, Australia

#16 Dec 17, 2012
Egyptian_lad wrote:
<quoted text> worry for urself only greek
i just noticed you come on this forum alot thats all,supposedly people who join here have interest in religions but u only look for joke and sharmouta talk lol
and why are u here? to convert the women? LOL

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#17 Dec 17, 2012
Lena wrote:
<quoted text>
and why are u here? to convert the women? LOL
im religious thats why im here.....i dont convert,you lost by anti-islamic people
ashkarlives4ALLA H

Yemen

#18 Dec 17, 2012
Lena wrote:
all children go to heaven ashkar, they are all innocent of sin
yes.
Lena

Wanniassa, Australia

#19 Dec 17, 2012
ashkarlives4ALLAH wrote:
<quoted text>yes.
his ashkar hope u well
Lena

Wanniassa, Australia

#20 Dec 17, 2012
Egyptian_lad wrote:
<quoted text> im religious thats why im here.....i dont convert,you lost by anti-islamic people
im not anti-Islamic, u have yr religion and I have mine:D
ashkarlives4ALLA H

Yemen

#21 Dec 17, 2012
Egyptian_lad wrote:
<quoted text> but evil child like you will not go to heaven lol
y bro u hate her eleni really good girl?.

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