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are u open for a rishta ?
Kiddon de rishta? Mangni to hogey.=)Eid Mubarak!

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No its just that I remember you saying sometime earlier that you and your significant other were both Muslims, and considering the propensity Sikh girls (no offense) have going for Paki Muslims- I was just curious.
I'll tell me mine if you tell me yours?:)
It's alright. I am not interested to know yours. Whatever that is.

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<quoted text>that so good i wish all sunah countries do the same [do u want from them spread their evil beliefs] i love Malaysia and malaysian so kind i wish 2 visit malaysia.peace and eid mubarak
I think Malaysian muslims are guilty of inventing a lot of things in the name of the Prophet and Allah. They have talks by imams on how a wife must be submissive and how to satisfy her husband's nafs. Really good sunnah country huh?
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Kiddon de rishta? Mangni to hogey.=)Eid Mubarak!
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Well, he's punjabi muslim, but in ur books, that would make his entire family pakistanis. Whcih is why i know this. They actually think, aside from the Quran, the arabic language is uncouth and vulgar. I dunno about sindhis, but i know this for sure. The Pathans are proud of their afghan roots and the Punjabis (or rather the Jatts) are proud of their roots.
And by the way, i've had bangladeshi co-workers previously. They retch at the idea of being affliated with hindu bengalis (or hindus period though Durga's birthday is a holiday in Bangladesh..go figure). They'd rather be associated with pakistanis which is odd, considering how pakistan massacred the bangladeshis.
Sullahs can be proud of being Mexican for all I care, the fact is that they will be braindead knobs as long as they believe in Islam.

The Bangla love for the Pakis is just idiocy going back to the "unbreakable bond of the ummah" which simply doesn't exist.

Its amusing to see how retarded the inbreeds can be. LOL.
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Aug 21, 2012
 
Muslim Misgivings about the Christian Faith
Christians Worship Three Gods
How can 1 + 1 + 1 = 1?
Muslims perceive that Christians do not accept their primary belief that there is one God. Muslims think that Christians worship three gods. So Muslims do not understand the New Testament view of how the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are ONE. To Christians, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are best understood as three persons intimately knit together as one. Please let me explain.
To begin, some Muslims ask how can Christians calculate that 1 + 1 + 1 = 1? Muslims may be surprised to learn that the Qur'an supports the idea that 1 + 1 + 1 = 1. The easiest way to explain this idea is by studying a human's physical body and how it is ONE with the human soul. Although the body and the soul are unique, they are intimately knit together as one. Muslims scholars agree that humans have both a body and a soul.
According to the Qur'an, when the human body dies, the soul departs. So the body and soul reside together on earth until the body dies. During our life on earth, the body and the soul are together as ONE entity.
But the Qur'an also teaches about the human body will rise again (The Resurrection). When the body is resurrected, the soul will reunite with the body. Once again, the body and the soul of the human become knit together as ONE. Muslims believe that this will be the eternal state. Below are Qur'anic verses on the human soul and body.
The Qur'an on the Soul
"It is Allah who creates you and takes your souls at death; and of you there are some who are sent back to a feeble age, so that they know nothing after having known (much): for Allah is All-Knowing, All-Powerful" (Surah 16:70).
Three more Qur'anic verses about the human soul are available in the quick pop-ups to the right.
The Soul in the Qur'an:
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Surah 56:83
Surah 10:104
Surah 79:1
The Qur'an on the Resurrected Body
The Body Reunites with the Soul to become One:
"... when we are reduced to bones and dust, should we really be raised up (to be) a new creation" (Surah 17:49)?
Three more Qur'anic verses about the human body resurrected are available in the quick pop-ups to the right.
The Body Resurrected in the Qur'an:
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Surah 56:47-49
Surah 23:16
Surah 29:15
I found many more Qur'anic verses about the human soul and body. The body is distinct from the soul. The soul is eternal. The body is mortal and dies. However, at the resurrection, the body is rejuvenated and the soul joins with it again to become a unit (one). So the Qur'an teaches that two are one, which is the same as defining 1 + 1 = 1.
Muslim Scholars Teach about
the Body and Soul Reuniting to Become One
Muslim scholar Syed Maududi takes this view on the reuniting of the soul and body as taught by the Qur'an. Mr. Maududi's comments are about Surah 81 as follows:
" ... the second stage has been described when the souls will be reunited with the bodies, the records will be laid open, the people will be called to account for their crimes (sins), the heavens will be unveiled, and Hell and Heaven will be brought into full view."
So even Muslim scholars teach that the body and soul become ONE (by definition: 1 body + 1 soul = 1 human being: based on the Qur'an). Muslims truly have no way of taking a position against the idea that humans have both a body and a soul that are intimately knit together as ONE. Otherwise, Muslims do not believe the Qur'an.
So how do the body and the soul of a human being relate to the Christian concept of God being Three in One?
To begin, it is important to understand that almost all religions teach that humans have both a body and a soul. The commonality of this belief (or teaching) is based on death. What happens to a human when they die?
Is it possible that humans with a body and soul are created as a mirror reflection of God?
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#253
Aug 21, 2012
 
Muslim Misgivings about the Christian Faith
Christians Worship Three Gods
How can 1 + 1 + 1 = 1?
Continued:

The creation story in the book of Genesis takes this viewpoint. Humans are created in the image of God.

"Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness,.... So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them" (Genesis 1:26-27).

So the creation story in the book of Genesis teaches that man is made in the image of God. Both the Islamic and Christian faiths believe and teach that humans have both a body and a soul, which are intimately knit together as ONE. Based on the Genesis story, we must ask, "Does God have distinct parts that are intimately knit together as one?"

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lol!
Tuhadi ki haal hai, bmzji?

Sorry, just practising.:P
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The New Testament teaches that humans can have a third part called the spirit. The New Testament teaches that man is a created trinity consisting of the soul, the body, and the spirit. Humans are a “three in one” created trinity as follows.

"May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body [three distinct parts that are one: emphasis mine] be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ" (I Thessalonians 5:23).

Based on the above verse, humans consist of the spirit, soul, and body. Three unique parts are intimately knit together as one to make up a human being. This is defined as 1 + 1 + 1 = 1.

The New Testament teaches that God is Three Persons intimately knit together as ONE (the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit). The link between God's nature as "Three in One" to humanity's nature as "three in one" is the creation story in the book of Genesis.

The following table is an attempt to show the nature of God and the nature of human beings as taught in the New Testament and the book of Genesis. In addition, the last row gives the Qur'anic view of the nature of man, which is the body and the soul, two distinct parts intimately knit together as one.

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Distinct Being

Distinct Being

Distinct Being

Intimate Single Reality

Matt 28:17-19

the Father

the Son

the Holy Spirit

God, Three in One

I Thess. 5:23

the Soul

the Body

the Spirit

Human Being: Three in One

Surah 17:49

the Soul

the Body

no spirit in the Qur'an

Human Being: Two in One

What is the "spirit" of a human as taught by the New Testament? I will address this idea of the human spirit deeper into the website unless you want to know more right now. How to be Born of the Spirit through Messiah.

Is the idea of God being Three in One only found in the New Testament?

Old Testament Support for the Trinity
(God is the Messiah)

The Einstein Method concludes at a high level of confidence that God has given spiritual truth to the human race. Gabriel gave to Daniel words that foretold of the coming Messiah. The Christian faith is highly credible. But did the Old Testament foretell that the Messiah would be God, who becomes a human being?
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Is the idea of God being Three in One only found in the New Testament?

Old Testament Support for the Trinity
(God is the Messiah)

The Einstein Method concludes at a high level of confidence that God has given spiritual truth to the human race. Gabriel gave to Daniel words that foretold of the coming Messiah. The Christian faith is highly credible. But did the Old Testament foretell that the Messiah would be God, who becomes a human being?

At the Dead Sea Scrolls site, all the Old Testament books (except for Esther) were found. All Old Testament manuscripts predate the Christian faith. This is very important. Since we have high confidence that God has revealed spiritual truth to the human race, you should not be surprised that the teachings of the Christian faith are found in books that predate the Christian faith.

I have selected prophetic verses found in the Dead Sea Scrolls biblical manuscripts that foretell that God is the Messiah. The very concept of God being Three in One is found within the prophetic verses of the Old Testament.

Messiah as the Son of David
(Jehovah is the Messiah)

"The days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King (the Messiah, emphasis mine) who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land. In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name (of the Messiah, emphasis mine) by which he will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness" (Jeremiah 23:5-6).

According to Jeremiah, the Messiah's name is The LORD Our Righteousness. Who is The LORD Our Righteousness? The original word in Hebrew that is translated as "LORD" [Search on the referenced site to find Hebrew Word number "3068"] is the name of God most often refered to as Jehovah or Yahweh. So holy is this name according to Jewish people, they will not even pronounce the name and prefer to write it as LORD. According to Jeremiah, the name of the Messiah is Jehovah, who gives His righteousness to those who believe in Him. This verse shows that righteousness comes from the Messiah, who takes away the sins of the world. Jeremiah's words relate directly back to Daniel 9:24,26a where the Messiah gives his life to redeem humans. The New Testament mirrors these prophetic utterances from outside time-space over and over again.

Messiah as a Child
(Who is called Mighty God)

"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called ... Mighty God" (Isaiah 9:6).

The prophet Isaiah reveals the Messiah will be the Almighty. The original word in Hebrew that is translated as "God" [Search on the referenced site to find Hebrew Word number "410"] is the Hebrew word "El".

Messiah as David's Son to be Born in Bethlehem
(Who comes from the Days of Eternity)

"But you, Bethlehem ... out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from the days of eternity" (Micah 5:2).

The prophet Micah pinpoints where the Messiah will be born. But just as important, Micah reveals that the Messiah existed long before the creation. The original word in Hebrew that is translated as "eternity" [Search on the referenced site to find Hebrew Word number "5769"] is the Hebrew word "Olam".

Messiah as the Son of God
(Who comes down to Earth)

"Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has gathered up the wind in the hollow of his hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and the name of his son? Tell me if you know" (Proverbs 30:4).

Words written by Solomon, the son of David, about the Messiah. Is it any wonder that the New Testament teaches that Jesus is the Son of God. The original word in Hebrew that is translated as "son" [Search on the referenced site to find Hebrew Word number "1121"] is the Hebrew word "ben".

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Sullahs can be proud of being Mexican for all I care, the fact is that they will be braindead knobs as long as they believe in Islam.
The Bangla love for the Pakis is just idiocy going back to the "unbreakable bond of the ummah" which simply doesn't exist.
Its amusing to see how retarded the inbreeds can be. LOL.
It's got nothing to do with the unbreakable bond of the ummah. The idea of the ummah is not conceivable in this day and age. I mean just look at ashkar.

U know what. The singaporean penal code, before it was revised, was almost an exact replica of the indian penal code. Just that one section is included in the Singaporean penal code, which is missing in Indian's copy. A section on incest. Nice of you to be talking bout inbreeding when indian men themselves can't seem to keep their weed whackers out of their female relatives.

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It's got nothing to do with the unbreakable bond of the ummah. The idea of the ummah is not conceivable in this day and age. I mean just look at ashkar.
U know what. The singaporean penal code, before it was revised, was almost an exact replica of the indian penal code. Just that one section is included in the Singaporean penal code, which is missing in Indian's copy. A section on incest. Nice of you to be talking bout inbreeding when indian men themselves can't seem to keep their weed whackers out of their female relatives.
So you agree that the ummah concept is farce?? Good to know there's at least one sane Muslim in this world...

What do Singaporean laws have to do with India or Islam? The fact is that recent studies showed that more than 50% of the Muslims in this world are inbred (including more than 70% in Pakshitstain). Thus, its fair to call sullahs as inbreeds.

That same stat does not seem to apply to any other religious demographic, I wonder why?

You live in Singapore? LOL what a boring country. Your life must've been awfully dull even before becoming a Muslimah....

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So you agree that the ummah concept is farce?? Good to know there's at least one sane Muslim in this world...
What do Singaporean laws have to do with India or Islam? The fact is that recent studies showed that more than 50% of the Muslims in this world are inbred (including more than 70% in Pakshitstain). Thus, its fair to call sullahs as inbreeds.
That same stat does not seem to apply to any other religious demographic, I wonder why?
You live in Singapore? LOL what a boring country. Your life must've been awfully dull even before becoming a Muslimah....
The concept of the Ummah is irrelevant.

Inbreeding only occurs, genetically if a baby results from a sibling relationship or a parent and child relationship. I personally think it's gross but marrying cousins was thought of as something common even among sikhs as long as the gotras of the two individuals were different. As the muslim population gets wider, this trend will die down. Another factor is cultural preference. No doubt there are plenty of muslims in the UK, arabs, turks, malays, indonesians, cultural similarities between the pakistanis mean that they'd prefer to stick to their own kind. Which kinda blows ur theory that pakistanis want to be 'arabcized" a bit, doesn't it? Times are changing, and even in my bf's family, his BIL is a southern indian. He's accepted cos he's a muslim.

I dun understand why the fun index of my life would be such a concern to anyone. It's sad u actually need external factors to excite you. Must be an extrovert. As an INTP, i loathe extroverts. Annoying bunch.
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fcktard...it is not about the practice dying down as the moftard population increases. but it is about the sheer FACT that filthy fcking bastard mohammad the messenger of his filthy no nothing moron allah practice it.

f. islam.

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The concept of the Ummah is irrelevant.
Inbreeding only occurs, genetically if a baby results from a sibling relationship or a parent and child relationship. I personally think it's gross but marrying cousins was thought of as something common even among sikhs as long as the gotras of the two individuals were different. As the muslim population gets wider, this trend will die down. Another factor is cultural preference. No doubt there are plenty of muslims in the UK, arabs, turks, malays, indonesians, cultural similarities between the pakistanis mean that they'd prefer to stick to their own kind. Which kinda blows ur theory that pakistanis want to be 'arabcized" a bit, doesn't it? Times are changing, and even in my bf's family, his BIL is a southern indian. He's accepted cos he's a muslim.
I dun understand why the fun index of my life would be such a concern to anyone. It's sad u actually need external factors to excite you. Must be an extrovert. As an INTP, i loathe extroverts. Annoying bunch.
Of course the concept of ummah is irrelevant- because it is non-existent.

Are 70%+ of Sikh families inbred? Is cousin marriage a prevalent phenomenon til date in their society? Get back to me on that one Muslimah...

The trend of sullahs inbreeding will be stopped? What are you, clairvoyant now? Such depravity will be ever present in your cult for as long as you people continue to breathe, that is a fact. Even in your chinky paradise of Singapore there was a case of a Muslim man raping his ten daughters a few years back, two of em got pregnant, before he was finally reported to the police- you hear about that one? Or maybe the UP sullah getting assaulted by his wife because he tried to bed his teenage daughter, enjoy that one did ya?

Pakishitstani sullahs don't wanna be Arabic in culture, I already explained this to you cairene. They want to believe they have Arab origins to think that their ancestors were the "Mughal Ghazis" rather than those who were f*cked into Pisslam by Ghazni and Aurangzeb- while at the same time, they exemplify their "Desi" culture that they've grown up in.

They are really in a dilemma trying to have their cake and eat it too- not even Charlie Sheen can help them win.

Where's this brother-in-law from in the South? Of course, his acceptance would be determined by how well he raises his ass and holds in farts at different times of the day in a unique tradition called "Salah", or his acceptance of a stinking pedophile from the desert as the apostle of god. What wonderful criterion. LMAO.

Singapore is dull. I'm sure the folks really enjoy the nightlife of ferris wheels at Sentosa.....

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It's got nothing to do with the unbreakable bond of the ummah. The idea of the ummah is not conceivable in this day and age. I mean just look at ashkar.
What do you mean about Ashkar?

I see him voicing views that will continue to divide Muslims, but that is the way it's been since Mohammed.

I also see Timesten supporting everything he says, just because he's found a way to manipulate him.

Fascinating.

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What do you mean about Ashkar?
I see him voicing views that will continue to divide Muslims, but that is the way it's been since Mohammed.
I also see Timesten supporting everything he says, just because he's found a way to manipulate him.
Fascinating.
Muslims are a very interesting species. I'm hoping that in the coming decades, western universities can implement programs to study them better via graduate level psychology courses.
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Muslims are a very interesting species. I'm hoping that in the coming decades, western universities can implement programs to study them better via graduate level psychology courses.
That's bad and funny at the same time.

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