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Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#183 Mar 20, 2013
Salaamz O believers. Jesus(pbuh) is NOT a GOD! LOL! how often do the pretenders rave "Jesus-Is-God!"...Je sus-Is-God!" all the while Jesus(pbuh) is Laughing Histerically as to what depths the pretenders go to distract men from the path of rightousness.LOL! And ALLAH(that,s god to you hethenz) is right there laughing with Him! How often in the annals of history have men propt-up other men as gods,and utterly failed.May ALLAH have mercy upon them. CheerZ
Danny

Colorado Springs, CO

#184 Mar 20, 2013
181 WOW..

Hmm we know Jesus did and said only what the Father said and did. So everything JEsus said and did it was the Father talking. So didnt I say you are gods..it was the Father saying it for Jesus said I say nothing of my self but only. In Rev we read that Alpha and Omaga that looked like the son of man. Son of man.. heard that OLD and NEW.

I think the real question should be is John 3:16. What son was Jesus talking about for it was the Father really talking. Who died for all.. seems really easy.

What you do not see is right before you. He is.. always has been a God of faith. You have to believe. Also its written that everything Jesus said and did was not written.Like it or not makes no difference. Believe it or not does not make it less ture. I have seen blind see deaf hear and so on and with only by ONE name Jesus.

He is real just talk to Him.. ask Him.. He does not hide. Mean it with your heart and He will be there. Everlasting life comes from just believing the Father sent him ..His only son.. who? hehe Died for the worlds sins. If I was to believe only because of what I read.. I would quit. Oh He is real..so real.. you have no idea the LOVE He has for you. Man will tell you all kind of things about Him.. seek Him 1st..
Lily

Bristol, UK

#186 Mar 30, 2013
Danny wrote:
181 WOW..
Hmm we know Jesus did and said only what the Father said and did. So everything JEsus said and did it was the Father talking. So didnt I say you are gods..it was the Father saying it for Jesus said I say nothing of my self but only. In Rev we read that Alpha and Omaga that looked like the son of man. Son of man.. heard that OLD and NEW.
I think the real question should be is John 3:16. What son was Jesus talking about for it was the Father really talking. Who died for all.. seems really easy.
What you do not see is right before you. He is.. always has been a God of faith. You have to believe. Also its written that everything Jesus said and did was not written.Like it or not makes no difference. Believe it or not does not make it less ture. I have seen blind see deaf hear and so on and with only by ONE name Jesus.
He is real just talk to Him.. ask Him.. He does not hide. Mean it with your heart and He will be there. Everlasting life comes from just believing the Father sent him ..His only son.. who? hehe Died for the worlds sins. If I was to believe only because of what I read.. I would quit. Oh He is real..so real.. you have no idea the LOVE He has for you. Man will tell you all kind of things about Him.. seek Him 1st..
On John 3:34: The man whom God has sent speaks God's message. After all, God gives him the Spirit without limit.
Hisham

Morocco

#188 Apr 3, 2013
Christianity is filled with lies, errors, and man-made doctrines. Jesus is a man. God is not a man. Therefore, Jesus is not God.

When we listen to what the Scriptures are saying they are very clear. The Bible doesn't not even teach the incomprehensible doctrine of the trinity! Nor did Jesus (pbuh) ever claim to be God or to be worshiped. It's all lies. The fact that Jesus is not God almighty is a very clear and explicit teaching in the Bible. The Bible speaks of Jesus having a God over him at least 17 times even after he returned to heaven!(Mic.5:4; Jn.20:17; Rom.15:6; Heb.1:9; 1Pt.1:3; Rev.1:6; 3:2,12). Christians need to actually read their central religious text to understand the true message.

Islam is the Truth.
John

Mississauga, Canada

#189 Apr 3, 2013
Hisham wrote:
Christianity is filled with lies, errors, and man-made doctrines. Jesus is a man. God is not a man. Therefore, Jesus is not God.
When we listen to what the Scriptures are saying they are very clear. The Bible doesn't not even teach the incomprehensible doctrine of the trinity! Nor did Jesus (pbuh) ever claim to be God or to be worshiped. It's all lies. The fact that Jesus is not God almighty is a very clear and explicit teaching in the Bible. The Bible speaks of Jesus having a God over him at least 17 times even after he returned to heaven!(Mic.5:4; Jn.20:17; Rom.15:6; Heb.1:9; 1Pt.1:3; Rev.1:6; 3:2,12). Christians need to actually read their central religious text to understand the true message.
Islam is the Truth.
One question for Hisham: What proof that Allah is god?(except from your Koran,which as per all non muslims are lies,errors and from man made doctrines.
Lily

Bristol, UK

#190 Apr 14, 2013
@John:
Can you prove that Quran is not word of God in the light of Quran? I can prove that Jesus(Peace be Upon Him) is not God in the light of Bible? Do you accept this challenge?
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#191 Apr 16, 2013
Lily wrote:
@John:
Can you prove that Quran is not word of God in the light of Quran? I can prove that Jesus(Peace be Upon Him) is not God in the light of Bible? Do you accept this challenge?
Salaamz L & Salutations! You Go girl! Take that bag of snakes and lay em out straight!LOL! Cheerz
Amnesty

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#192 Apr 17, 2013
Lily wrote:
Jesus never claimed himself as a GOD. Here are the proof from Bible:
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Mark 12:29 did Jesus say, "Here, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord." The words "our God" indicate that Jesus had a higher God over him, a stronger God than him. Jesus didn't say "Your God". He said "our God" which includes Jesus as the creation of GOD.
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 20:17 did Jesus say, "I ascend to my God and your God? This tells us that we and Jesus have a common GOD.
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 8:28 did Jesus say, "I do nothing of myself"? Can't GOD do anything he wills?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 14:28 did Jesus say, "My Father (GOD) is greater than I"?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Luke 23:46 did Jesus say, "Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit"?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 19:16 did Jesus say, "Why call me good, there is none good but One, that is GOD"?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39 did Jesus beg his GOD to have mercy on him and to pass the cup to death (kill Jesus in another words) before Jesus goes through the pain of crucifixion? Also see: Jesus's crucifixion in Islam.
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 18:38 didn't he reply when he was asked about the truth.
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 24:36 did Jesus tell his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Isaiah 11:2-3 did GOD put the spirit of fearing GOD in Jesus?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:31 did Jesus tell his followers that if he (Jesus) bears witness of himself, then his record is not true?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:30 did Jesus tell his followers that he can't do a single thing of his own initiative?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:36 did Jesus say that GOD had assigned him (Jesus) work and GOD is a witness on Jesus?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in John 5:32 did Jesus tell his followers that they have never seen GOD at anytime nor ever heard his voice?
If Jesus was GOD, then why did he pray to his GOD in Luke 5:16?
If Jesus was GOD, then why in Matthew 26:39 did Jesus fall on his face and prayed to his GOD?
Here are so many proofs in Bible in which he claimed that he is not GOD. I found this heart touching video on youtube in which a great preacher explained the misconception about Jesus. I love Jesus, and I follow his commandment very strictly. If Jesus never claim himself God, why should I go against him and called him a God. If Jesus never drink alcohol they why should I drink alcohol. Think about it!!!!
youtube watch?v=MH2RZfNXGdA
Very True.
Lily

Bristol, UK

#193 Apr 18, 2013
I) Position of Jesus (pbuh) in Islam:

(i)Islam is the only non-Christian faith, which makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus (pbuh). No Muslim is a Muslim if he does not believe in Jesus (pbuh).

(ii) We believe that he was one of the mightiest Messengers of Allah (swt).

(iii) We believe that he was born miraculously, without any male intervention, which many modern day Christians do not believe.

(iv) We believe he was the Messiah translated Christ (pbuh).

(v) We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s permission.

(iv) We believe that he healed those born blind, and the lepers with God’s permission.

II) Concept of God in Christianity:

1. Jesus Christ (pbuh) never claimed Divinity

One may ask, if both Muslims and Christians love and respect Jesus (pbuh), where exactly is the parting of ways? The major difference between Islam and Christianity is the Christians’ insistence on the supposed divinity of Christ (pbuh). A study of the Christian scriptures reveals that Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity. In fact there is not a single unequivocal statement in the entire Bible where Jesus (pbuh) himself says, "I am God" or where he says, "worship me". In fact the Bible contains statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in which he preached quite the contrary. The following statements in the Bible are attributed to Jesus Christ (pbuh):
(i) "My Father is greater than I."
[The Bible, John 14:28]

(ii) "My Father is greater than all."
[The Bible, John 10:29]

(iii) "…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God…."
[The Bible, Mathew 12:28]

(iv) "…I with the finger of God cast out devils…."
[The Bible, Luke 11:20]

(v) "I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me."
[The Bible, John 5:30]


2. The Mission of Jesus Christ (pbuh)– to Fulfill the Law

Jesus (pbuh) never claimed divinity for himself. He clearly announced the nature of his mission. Jesus (pbuh) was sent by God to confirm the previous Judaic law. This is clearly evident in the following statements attributed to Jesus (pbuh) in the Gospel of Mathew:

"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

"Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven; but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

"For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."
[The Bible, Mathew 5:17-20]


3. God Sent Jesus'(pbuh)

The Bible mentions the prophetic nature of Jesus (pbuh) mission in the following verses:

(i)"… and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me."
[The Bible, John 14:24]

(ii)"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou has sent."
[The Bible, John 17:3]
Lily

Bristol, UK

#194 Apr 18, 2013
4. Jesus Refuted even the Remotest Suggestion of his Divinity

Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:

"And behold, one came and said unto him,‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’

And he said unto him,‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ "
[The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]
Jesus (pbuh) did not say that to have the eternal life of paradise, man should believe in him as Almighty God or worship him as God, or believe that Jesus (pbuh) would die for his sins. On the contrary he said that the path to salvation was through keeping the commandments. It is indeed striking to note the difference between the words of Jesus Christ (pbuh) and the Christian dogma of salvation through the sacrifice of Jesus (pbuh).

5. Jesus (pbuh) of Nazareth – a Man Approved of God

The following statement from the Bible supports the Islamic belief that Jesus (pbuh) was a prophet of God.
"Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know."
[The Bible, Acts 2:22]


6. The First Commandment is that God is One

The Bible does not support the Christian belief in trinity at all. One of the scribes once asked Jesus (pbuh) as to which was the first commandment of all, to which Jesus (pbuh) merely repeated what Moses (pbuh) had said earlier:
"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad."

This is a Hebrew quotation, which means:

"Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord."
[The Bible, Mark 12:29]
It is striking that the basic teachings of the Church such as Trinity and vicarious atonement find no mention in the Bible. In fact, various verses of the Bible point to Jesus’(pbuh) actual mission, which was to fulfill the law revealed to Prophet Moses (pbuh). Indeed Jesus (pbuh) rejected any suggestions that attributed divinity to him, and explained his miracles as the power of the One True God.
Jesus (pbuh) thus reiterated the message of monotheism that was given by all earlier prophets of Almighty God.

NOTE: All quotations of the Bible are taken from the King James Version.

III) Concept of God in Old Testament:

1. God is One

The following verse from the book of Deuteronomy contains an exhortation from Moses (pbuh):

"Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhad".
It is a Hebrew quotation which means:
"Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord"
[The Bible, Deuteronomy 6:4]

2. Unity of God in the Book of Isaiah

The following verses are from the Book of Isaiah:

(i) "I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour."
[The Bible, Isaiah 43:11]

(ii) "I am Lord, and there is none else, there is no God besides me."
[The Bible, Isaiah 45:5]

(iii) "I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me."
[The Bible, Isaiah 46:9]

3. Old Testament condemns idol worship

(i) Old Testament condemns idol worship in the following verses:

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"

"Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God."
[The Bible, Exodus 20:3-5]

(ii) A similar message is repeated in the book of Deuteronomy:

"Thou shalt have none other gods before me."

"Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that in the earth beneath, or that is in the water beneath the earth."

"Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God."
[The Bible, Deuteronomy 5:7-9]
Lily

Bristol, UK

#195 Apr 18, 2013
Tauheed: Monotheism

A. La ilaha ilallahu, Muhammad-ur-Rasoolullah

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 2, Number 7:

Narrated Ibn 'Umar:

Allah's Apostle said: Islam is based on (the following) five (principles):

1. To testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and Muhammad is Allah's Apostle.
2. To offer the (compulsory congregational) prayers dutifully and perfectly.
3. To pay Zakat (i.e. obligatory charity).
4. To perform Hajj.(i.e. Pilgrimage to Mecca)
5. To observe fast during the month of Ramadan.

B. Believe in Allah and the Last Day, and the Angels and the Book and the Messengers.

Al-Qur'an 2:177
"Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah , the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the prophets and gives wealth, in spite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves; [and who] establishes prayer and gives zakah; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous."

C. Come to common terms — Worship of one God

Al-Qur'an 3:64
Say, "O People of the Scripture, come to a word that is equitable between us and you - that we will not worship except Allah and not associate anything with Him and not take one another as lords instead of Allah ." But if they turn away, then say, "Bear witness that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]."

D. Concept of God

The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses of Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur’an:
"Say: He is Allah,
The One and Only.
"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute.
"He begets not, nor is He begotten.
And there is none like unto Him."
[Al-Qur’an 112:1-4]

Deuteronomy 6:4
“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!"

Mark 12:29
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, "Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord"

E. Shirk – Biggest Sin

Al-Qur'an 4:48
"Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin."

Al-Qur'an 4:116
"Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly gone far astray."

Exodus 20:2-5
2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery.
3 “You shall have no other gods before me.
4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
5 "You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me,

Deuteronomy 5:7-9
7 Thou shalt have none other gods before me.
8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
Lily

Bristol, UK

#196 Apr 18, 2013
F. Jesus (pbuh) not God. He never claimed Divinity

Al-Qur'an 5:72
They have certainly disbelieved who say, " Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary" while the Messiah has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord." Indeed, he who associates others with Allah - Allah has forbidden him Paradise, and his refuge is the Fire. And there are not for the wrongdoers any helpers.

John 14:28
You have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If you loved me, you would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

John 10:29
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Mathew 12:28
But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

Luke 11:20
But if I force out demons with the help of God's power, then the kingdom of God has come to you.

John 5:30
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

Acts 2:21
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

G. 99 Attributes of Almighty God

Al-Qur'an 17:110
Say, "Call upon Allah or call upon the Most Merciful. Whichever [name] you call - to Him belong the best names." And do not recite [too] loudly in your prayer or [too] quietly but seek between that an [intermediate] way.

H. Prefer using name ‘Allah’ rather than the word ‘God’ as the word ‘God’ can be played around with. Allah in the Bible – Eli, Eli, Lama Sabachthani

Mark 15:34
And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Mathew 27:46
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Mohammad ashraf

Edinburgh, UK

#197 Apr 29, 2013
Thats true but u keep forgetting that he just came for the lost sheep of israel. And u have to agree if he jesus is special then his father must be superior then jesus jest like ur father is superior then u cuz he made u ! And we muslims Worship the Creator (our maker) not his creation like u peopledo its u guys who have serious problems cuz u read and understand from the bible with closed eyes and ears. Open them up to receive true guidance.

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#198 May 1, 2013
Hisham wrote:
Christianity is filled with lies, errors, and man-made doctrines. Jesus is a man. God is not a man. Therefore, Jesus is not God.
When we listen to what the Scriptures are saying they are very clear. The Bible doesn't not even teach the incomprehensible doctrine of the trinity! Nor did Jesus (pbuh) ever claim to be God or to be worshiped. It's all lies. The fact that Jesus is not God almighty is a very clear and explicit teaching in the Bible. The Bible speaks of Jesus having a God over him at least 17 times even after he returned to heaven!(Mic.5:4; Jn.20:17; Rom.15:6; Heb.1:9; 1Pt.1:3; Rev.1:6; 3:2,12). Christians need to actually read their central religious text to understand the true message.
Islam is the Truth.
Allah - the Moon God

The Archaeology of the Middle East
The religion of Islam has as its focus of worship a deity by the name of "Allah." The Muslims claim that Allah in pre-Islamic times was the biblical God of the Patriarchs, prophets, and apostles. The issue is thus one of continuity.

Was "Allah" the biblical God or a pagan god in Arabia during pre-Islamic times? The Muslim's claim of continuity is essential to their attempt to convert Jews and Christians for if "Allah" is part of the flow of divine revelation in Scripture, then it is the next step in biblical religion.
Thus we should all become Muslims.

But, on the other hand, if Allah was a pre-Islamic pagan deity, then its core claim is refuted. Religious claims often fall before the results of hard sciences such as archeology.

We can endlessly speculate about the past or go and dig it up and see what the evidence reveals.
This is the only way to find out the truth concerning the origins of Allah.

As we shall see, the hard evidence demonstrates that the god Allah was a pagan deity.

In fact, he was the Moon-god who was married to the sun goddess and the stars were his daughters.
Amnesty

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#199 May 2, 2013
Hisham wrote:
Christianity is filled with lies, errors, and man-made doctrines. Jesus is a man. God is not a man. Therefore, Jesus is not God.
When we listen to what the Scriptures are saying they are very clear. The Bible doesn't not even teach the incomprehensible doctrine of the trinity! Nor did Jesus (pbuh) ever claim to be God or to be worshiped. It's all lies. The fact that Jesus is not God almighty is a very clear and explicit teaching in the Bible. The Bible speaks of Jesus having a God over him at least 17 times even after he returned to heaven!(Mic.5:4; Jn.20:17; Rom.15:6; Heb.1:9; 1Pt.1:3; Rev.1:6; 3:2,12). Christians need to actually read their central religious text to understand the true message.
Islam is the Truth.
Yes it is very crystal clear that Jesus (pbuh) is not God. He always attributed worship to God alone, not himself.
Not just Jesus isn't God but Jesus and God are not the same person, for God was greater than Jesus, according to what Jesus himself explicitly said.

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