Are all Muslims bad?
The Lobo

New York, NY

#97 May 5, 2013
Okay, this disgusts me.

People are always talking about muslims as if they are connected to terrorists, but this is only a tiny minority of the muslim population. Most of them are peace-loving and do not support the terrorists at all. Jihadists are a tiny extremest branch of a vast religion, and all muslims should not be persecuted for their beliefs. Besides, everyone brings such huge attention to muslim terrorists, but they seem to forget about all the serial killers and rapists out there. Most of those people are not muslims, and their religion isn't persecuted for what they do! It is just a huge amount of bigotry in the US that makes people always notice when a muslim does something bad but makes them overlook when a christian or Jew does.

About the references to war in the Quran, I cannot deny that they are there. Yet, that book was written 1500 years ago, and the belief of the times was that religious persecution of other religions was alright. In EVERY religion (except maybe Buddhism), they have references to violence and war and killing, and you can find it all over the bible. Speaking of the bible, what about the Crusades? This was an example of Christians invading muslim land and killing huge numbers of people because of their religion. Why don't people talk about that?

By the way, for anyone who is wondering, I am not a Muslim. I am merely a non-bigoted person
Proud American

Indianapolis, IN

#98 May 5, 2013
The Crusades? Going back a ways there, aren't you? Anything say from this century? All the "serial killers and rapists" are evil people of course. But the aren't killing and raping in the name of religion. Only muslims do that. Is there anyone who didn't KNOW the Boston bombers would turn out to be muslims? How did we know that?

“Freedom, NOT islam.”

Since: Feb 11

Birmingham UK

#99 May 6, 2013
Dunno what the rest of you think, but this is my own view.
NO, taken individually, not all muslims are bad. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the overwhelming majority are good and decent people.
The 'flip side' if you will, is that while they may be great as individuals, get them into a group and you often see the same mentality displayed by soccer hooligans.
Mob mentality its a shame, but its still a fact. Its the same mentality that can be seen at an islamic/sharia hand chopping or stoning. The crowd gets worked up to fever pitch, and acting as a mob, the pelt stones furiously.
Its hard to believe that those same people who were screaming and chanting for blood, for death and in their own view, justice, will later go to mosque and pray to allah, actually believing themselves to be decent people.
Its a great pity we cant get allah to post his own view on this forum. I think muslims might be very surprised by what he had to say!

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#100 May 6, 2013
Mujadean wrote:
In Islam the are rules which are placed to prevent crimes, for example in UK for a rape you will receive 5- 8 years prison sentence, what make you think when the convict is free he will not commit the same crime. In Islamic law have death sentence will make everyone think twice before committing.
You have individual fighting in the own country (freedom fighters) just because the media and international government may label them terrorist does not really mean they are, we are leaving in a system to think they are terrorist!
They are Muslims and they are terrorist.
Pork Chop

Perryton, TX

#102 May 19, 2013
bipasha malik wrote:
Islam is a non killing religion but some people like osama and his annoying gang do kill people and it is wrong!!! i hate those terrorists
liar liar pants on fire
Pork Chop

Perryton, TX

#103 May 19, 2013
bipasha malik wrote:
Dont u dare call the quran a sick book!!! How could you be so stupid u have no respect!! And no he will not!! allah is the most forgiveing he still loves the non believers but only the ones who are dirty and do bad things he is not happy with them how the hell do u no? do u think you no my religion better than me if u got it from the computer yeah let me tell u the computer is NOT always right!! and no my friend it did not come from mohammad (may peace be upon him) it came from god he wrote it the real quran that he wrote is in a special place okay dont act like u no about islam! when u no nothing! I am sorry if this sounded a bit mean to you i am trying to control myself okay and if you no that what ever u say will hurt my feelings about islam please thing twice.
quran is a book of lies use it to wipe your ass
Malar

Europe

#104 May 28, 2013
Islam is being followed by many countries. But the people from Arabia,Middle East, Pakistan, Bangaladesh and chechanya(arab root people)are more rude and liars. These people only killing innocents, spreading lie about koran contents in the name of god (Allah). They are doing this because if they blame god for their every such ruthless actions because they want support from their own people and want to be treated as heros (coz, they are doing the things what god likes as they think).

Muslims from Malaysia, Japan, Indonesia, China and other countries are not like above counties Men and Women. They are reading Qoran and worshipping god and make their life comfortable with peace. Not over acting like the Arabs. Always praying but that prayers for other fellow muslims. Thats all.

They are not truly praying to god. They are doing all these thing for other fellow muslims whom they want to hail them. Irritating when i see arab like faces. Thinking why god letting them alive along with good people :-(.

If no Petrol in arab countries no will prefer to go there. Since they are the second most population in the world , they haven't invented anything like christians and jews but only terrorism and always allah, allah, allah.

we can pray god 24hrs in life time if there is no hunger, thirst and other desires.

Please ask Allah to give all these, so that you can do baby sitting in dargah with out working.
ThatOnePerson

Basingstoke, UK

#105 Jun 11, 2013
Islam is not a bad religion. Our God is no different than any other God, He just has a different name. It is extremists that take Islam too far that have caused all of this.
Onelawforall

London, UK

#106 Jun 11, 2013
ThatOnePerson wrote:
Islam is not a bad religion. Our God is no different than any other God, He just has a different name. It is extremists that take Islam too far that have caused all of this.
Your god demands adulterers tio be flogged, thieves to have their hands chopped off, non muslims to be persecuted, apostyates to be killed and pagans to be slaughterd. Your god is a barbaric god. There is no other god who is so vicious.
fake islam

Laurinburg, NC

#108 Jun 11, 2013
CalypsoTheBrave wrote:
Ok at first when I joined this place I was like great I get to diss muslims without feeling like a persecutor or bigot since I've had a number of muslims do the same thing to me. I get so sick and tired of forums where it's alright for a muslim to hate on every other religious/non-religious group but it's not alright for us. Well to make a long story short I met a couple of very nice muslim women. Most of the muslims I've encountered were assholes especially the men. Needless to say I was invited to their homes and impressed by their manners and their polite children. Now I cringe everytime someone says something like "Kill all muslims." or all muslims deserve to die. I don't know but I think perhaps some people don't have a choice to leave their religions when their born into families that persecute them for being individual thinkers or people who do not comply with their rigid rules.
I was just curious about your thoughts.
the strict ones you see are a product of teachings by a bunch of currupt extremist clerics that dont even follow true islam. i lived in saudi arabia until i came to this country. there are so many things they kept from me about islam i only learned until i came here. so if they seem extreme to you its most likely because they grew up reading tainted text. they leave out ALOT of things to serve there own goals.
Onelawforall

London, UK

#109 Jun 11, 2013
fake islam wrote:
<quoted text> the strict ones you see are a product of teachings by a bunch of currupt extremist clerics that dont even follow true islam. i lived in saudi arabia until i came to this country. there are so many things they kept from me about islam i only learned until i came here. so if they seem extreme to you its most likely because they grew up reading tainted text. they leave out ALOT of things to serve there own goals.
That is the teaching of the Quran. Muslims are taught to follow the life of Muhammad as he is their moral example. This is a man who was responisble for a women being tied between two camels and being ripped apart, for setting fire to the chest of a man to make him reveal where he had hidden his money, of ripping out the eyes and limbs of 3 people and leaving them to die in agony, of murdering 800 unarmed Banu Qurayza and enslaving their women and chilren.

This is not a corruption of Islam but comes directly from your holy books and written by devout muslims. Go and read your hadiths & history abd stop spreading taqiyya.
ThatOnePerson

Liss, UK

#110 Jun 11, 2013
Onelawforall wrote:
<quoted text>
Your god demands adulterers tio be flogged, thieves to have their hands chopped off, non muslims to be persecuted, apostates to be killed and pagans to be slaughterd. Your god is a barbaric god. There is no other god who is so vicious.
So, firstly, I would like to say that I don't want to get into a heated argument about this. You have your opinions, I have mine. We don't know each other, and I doubt we ever will.
Thieves having their hands cut off? That does go way back into the medieval times of Britain, and most of the world. Times have changed now, and while some of these texts may seem barbaric now, they made almost complete sense to Muslims back then.
I won't deny that there is a lot of violence in the Qur'an, but we can trace back violence in almost every single religious text around today. We have knowledge of the Crusades, where Christians slaughtered Muslims for power. But, again, times have changed. There are many extremists out there that take religion too far. Allah is as just as any other God. They are one and the same, just like human beings. Don't treat us differently because of our religion. Treat the ones who committed the crime badly.
Hello

New York, NY

#111 Jun 11, 2013
Verdict:

Anyone who KNOWINGLY follows a so called prophet who is a pedophile, a murderer and serial rapist who taught his men to kill and rape is evil.

People who aid and abet a criminal, which Muslims do by promoting this evil person and by promoting a religion that comes out from such a person, is evil.

Any questions?
LBer

Long Beach, CA

#112 Jun 11, 2013
I would say a huge majority of Muslims born and raised in the Middle East are...nuts, barbaric, backward, cruel, ignorant, mean, parasites, etc.

As to those raised in a family that assimilated into American 'Western' type culture, such as most places in America - I would say the majority of them seem like reasonable people.

I am only speaking from my own experience of course, but they seem to be very Muslim "light", and not too focused on their religion. They ignore the bad in the Koran (which means they ignore most of it) and focus on the neutral if they focus at all.

Those in Muslim strongholds in America, still seem to retain their A-holeness, keep down their women, and try to impose upon others constantly.

Check out this article, explaining statistically, how various concentrations of Muslims behave.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/05/28/isl...
no way

Laurinburg, NC

#113 Jun 11, 2013
CalypsoTheBrave wrote:
Ok at first when I joined this place I was like great I get to diss muslims without feeling like a persecutor or bigot since I've had a number of muslims do the same thing to me. I get so sick and tired of forums where it's alright for a muslim to hate on every other religious/non-religious group but it's not alright for us. Well to make a long story short I met a couple of very nice muslim women. Most of the muslims I've encountered were assholes especially the men. Needless to say I was invited to their homes and impressed by their manners and their polite children. Now I cringe everytime someone says something like "Kill all muslims." or all muslims deserve to die. I don't know but I think perhaps some people don't have a choice to leave their religions when their born into families that persecute them for being individual thinkers or people who do not comply with their rigid rules.
I was just curious about your thoughts.
of course not all muslims are bad. only bigots think that.
no way

Laurinburg, NC

#114 Jun 11, 2013
Pork Chop wrote:
<quoted text> quran is a book of lies use it to wipe your ass
take this man for example. class A bigot with the low intel to boot. his kind is dying in the west but you know what they say about cornered animals.
no way

Laurinburg, NC

#115 Jun 11, 2013
correct myself. bigots AND conservatives. not that there different.
Onelawforall

London, UK

#116 Jun 12, 2013
ThatOnePerson wrote:
<quoted text>
So, firstly, I would like to say that I don't want to get into a heated argument about this. You have your opinions, I have mine. We don't know each other, and I doubt we ever will.
Thieves having their hands cut off? That does go way back into the medieval times of Britain, and most of the world. Times have changed now, and while some of these texts may seem barbaric now, they made almost complete sense to Muslims back then.
I won't deny that there is a lot of violence in the Qur'an, but we can trace back violence in almost every single religious text around today. We have knowledge of the Crusades, where Christians slaughtered Muslims for power. But, again, times have changed. There are many extremists out there that take religion too far. Allah is as just as any other God. They are one and the same, just like human beings. Don't treat us differently because of our religion. Treat the ones who committed the crime badly.
But ancient people never claimed it was a commandment of God. They have changed with the times. Muslims claim that the Quran is the eternal word of God and is for all time. Nowhere in the Quran does it say "Chop off hands today but tomorrow stop doing it".
The so called extremists are following the Quran because it is the literal word of God.
If you are a muslim do you believe the Quran is the literal word of God? If you do not then you cannot be a muslim.(Unless you are a certain type of Sufi).
ThatOnePerson

Liss, UK

#117 Jun 12, 2013
Onelawforall wrote:
<quoted text>
But ancient people never claimed it was a commandment of God. They have changed with the times. Muslims claim that the Quran is the eternal word of God and is for all time. Nowhere in the Quran does it say "Chop off hands today but tomorrow stop doing it".
The so called extremists are following the Quran because it is the literal word of God.
If you are a muslim do you believe the Quran is the literal word of God? If you do not then you cannot be a muslim.(Unless you are a certain type of Sufi).
Thank you for no kind of flaming or just plain disrespect.(:
I have to say, I agree with you. I am definitely not the strictest Muslim around. I will follow the basic rules of the Quran, definitely, but of course there are some parts I disagree with. Just like the Bible, I believe that the Quran could have been altered and edited by many different people, making the true word of God a little watered down, to say the least. About whether or not it is the word of God, when it comes down to it, it is a simple matter of faith.
Elina Ahmed

Sidcup, UK

#118 Jun 24, 2013
Okay, i just want to get my view out here. Islam is a peaceful religion. It's just that these people on the news; they have warped and twisted the idea of Islam, and have ruined the reputation Muslims have built. No religion order's its believers to go and murder the non-believers - okay, maybe some cults do that, but main, big religions don't. No where in the Qur'an does it say to kill one another. Allah has said that no Muslim should one another, and that they should treat the non-believers as if they were family. The only time Allah has said it's okay to kill someone is if you're family, village or country is being attacked, but even then Allah has told us to try and not kill anyone - more of injure them so that they no longer threaten you. Allah has also told us NOT TO COMMIT SUICIDE. The suicide bombers in the news that are Muslims don't deserve to call themselves Muslims... I mean, how can they be when they defy the direct orders of their god?! The guy who killed the British soldier, Lee Rigby, was a convert - he wasn't Muslim at birth. He could have taken Islam and misinterpreted what the Qur'an says - it is, after all, originally written in a different language. Allah is merciful - he doesn't mind that people are Sikh, Christian, Jewish, Hindu or Buddhist. He forgives all, and said that it doesn't matter if you are part of any other religion but Islam - he said that the other religions are a more indirect way of being in Islam. He also said that if you are an atheist who has lived their life peacefully, then Allah also forgives them. The only people who Allah WILL NOT forgive is the people who disgrace Islam and who murder and abuse for pleasure...
One last thing I want to say. You know the 9/11... well, my great-uncle almost died in the Twin Towers. And he's a Muslim. So what does that tell you? That the group, Al-Qaeda, even risk the lives of people in their own religion to achieve their evil and twisted ideals. They didn't even do it for Islam - they did it for political reasons. Confused? Let me explain. They attacked some of the most important POLITICAL buildings in the US - The Pentagon and the Twin Towers (the USA symbol of financial strength)... That's not exactly the kind of move a group who's fanatical about their religion (which they've know disgraced) would make, oh no, this is the move of a bunch of people who just did it all for their own selfish needs.
I just thought I'd put that out there... my whole family is Muslim - none of us want to kill anyone or blow up buildings or whatever!! We want to live our lives and be proud of our religion and culture, but, you know what, these idiots and retards on the internet and news have made that pretty damn hard now!!
Sorry about that rant... I tried to keep it as short as possible...(lol, ASAP). I hope I didn't offend anyone, and if I did, sorry - it wasn't intentional.

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