Muslims hate women
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Kansasdemo

Eudora, KS

#1 Jan 27, 2008
In Africa Muslims take young girls and cut out their clitoris so that when they marry the man may enjoy sex but not them. It also means the man does not have to 'bother' with trying to please her or care about the mutual act of love.
Muslim men care about women as they might a cow or dog or maybe a pet monkey. They have no respect, love or admiration for women. They are a piece of meat to be used when needed and put away behind thier masks when not in use. I hate Muslims! do not make even one excuse for thier presence on this earth.
Rayn

Richardson, TX

#2 Jan 27, 2008
Clitoris mutilation is not a part of Islam! Please prove me wrong by posting any evidence from the Quran or hadiths of this barbaric practice.

Thanks

Since: Dec 07

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#3 Jan 27, 2008
Rayn wrote:
Clitoris mutilation is not a part of Islam! Please prove me wrong by posting any evidence from the Quran or hadiths of this barbaric practice.
Thanks
really......

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Since: Jan 08

Berdoo

#4 Jan 27, 2008
Rayn wrote:
Clitoris mutilation is not a part of Islam! Please prove me wrong by posting any evidence from the Quran or hadiths of this barbaric practice.
Thanks
Orly?
Scooter-girl

Portland, OR

#5 Jan 27, 2008
Rayn wrote:
Clitoris mutilation is not a part of Islam! Please prove me wrong by posting any evidence from the Quran or hadiths of this barbaric practice.
Thanks
Sunan Abu Dawood,
Book 41, Number 5251:
Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah:

A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadi...

The saying of the Messenger (SAW) in the Hadith of Umm ‘Atiyyah to a female circumcision:

"When you circumcise then do not cut severely, since that is better for her and more pleasing to the husband." (Reported by Abu Dawud and Al-Baihaqee and declared Hasan by Shaikh Al-Albani)

http://www.themuslimwoman.com/hygiene/femalec...

As for the Shari`ah stance on female circumcision, it’s a controversial issue among the Muslim scholars and even doctors.

In response to the question, the eminent Muslim scholar, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, states:

Actually, this is a controversial issue among jurists and even among doctors. It has sparked off fierce debate in Egypt whereby scholars and doctors are split into proponents and opponents.

However, the most moderate opinion and the most likely one to be correct is in favor of practicing circumcision in the moderate Islamic way indicated in some of the Prophet's hadiths – even though such hadiths are not confirmed to be authentic. It is reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said to a midwife: "Reduce the size of the clitoris but do not exceed the limit, for that is better for her health and is preferred by husbands". The hadith indicates that circumcision is better for a woman's health and it enhances her conjugal relation with her husband. It’s noteworthy that the Prophet's saying "do not exceed the limit" means do not totally remove the clitoris.

Actually, Muslim countries differ over the issue of female circumcision; some countries sanction it whereas others do not. Anyhow, it is not obligatory, whoever finds it serving the interest of his daughters should do it, and I personally support this under the current circumstances in the modern world.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite...

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#6 Jan 28, 2008
Scooter-girl wrote:
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Sunan Abu Dawood,
Book 41, Number 5251:
Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah:
A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadi...
The saying of the Messenger (SAW) in the Hadith of Umm ‘Atiyyah to a female circumcision:
"When you circumcise then do not cut severely, since that is better for her and more pleasing to the husband." (Reported by Abu Dawud and Al-Baihaqee and declared Hasan by Shaikh Al-Albani)
http://www.themuslimwoman.com/hygiene/femalec...
As for the Shari`ah stance on female circumcision, it’s a controversial issue among the Muslim scholars and even doctors.
In response to the question, the eminent Muslim scholar, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, states:
Actually, this is a controversial issue among jurists and even among doctors. It has sparked off fierce debate in Egypt whereby scholars and doctors are split into proponents and opponents.
However, the most moderate opinion and the most likely one to be correct is in favor of practicing circumcision in the moderate Islamic way indicated in some of the Prophet's hadiths – even though such hadiths are not confirmed to be authentic. It is reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said to a midwife: "Reduce the size of the clitoris but do not exceed the limit, for that is better for her health and is preferred by husbands". The hadith indicates that circumcision is better for a woman's health and it enhances her conjugal relation with her husband. It’s noteworthy that the Prophet's saying "do not exceed the limit" means do not totally remove the clitoris.
Actually, Muslim countries differ over the issue of female circumcision; some countries sanction it whereas others do not. Anyhow, it is not obligatory, whoever finds it serving the interest of his daughters should do it, and I personally support this under the current circumstances in the modern world.
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite...
I have never heard of female circumcision in the Muslim world
VIOLET

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#7 Jan 28, 2008
Gainsborough wrote:
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I have never heard of female circumcision in the Muslim world
me 2
and i live in a muslims country

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Since: Jan 08

Berdoo

#8 Jan 28, 2008
Gainsborough wrote:
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I have never heard of female circumcision in the Muslim world
I believe it is a tribal belief primarily.

Since: Dec 07

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#9 Jan 28, 2008
Vixen13 wrote:
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I believe it is a tribal belief primarily.
thats what I thought
eris

Haverhill, UK

#10 Jan 28, 2008
Gainsborough wrote:
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I have never heard of female circumcision in the Muslim world
You are definitely wrong. It may not be the policy of the govt but female circumcision is definitely carried out in the muslim world. In fact it is prevalent in the Middle East, Africa and parts of Asia.
Scooter-girl

United States

#11 Jan 28, 2008
Vixen13 wrote:
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I believe it is a tribal belief primarily.
It's tribal, but can easily be justified through Islamic scholars, as the one I posted above. That particular scholar is well known and highly respected--he just received the "ok" to teach at mosques in Britain.
Rayn

Richardson, TX

#12 Jan 28, 2008
Scooter-girl wrote:
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Sunan Abu Dawood,
Book 41, Number 5251:
Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah:
A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said to her: Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.
http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadi...
The saying of the Messenger (SAW) in the Hadith of Umm ‘Atiyyah to a female circumcision:
"When you circumcise then do not cut severely, since that is better for her and more pleasing to the husband." (Reported by Abu Dawud and Al-Baihaqee and declared Hasan by Shaikh Al-Albani)
http://www.themuslimwoman.com/hygiene/femalec...
As for the Shari`ah stance on female circumcision, it’s a controversial issue among the Muslim scholars and even doctors.
In response to the question, the eminent Muslim scholar, Sheikh Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, states:
Actually, this is a controversial issue among jurists and even among doctors. It has sparked off fierce debate in Egypt whereby scholars and doctors are split into proponents and opponents.
However, the most moderate opinion and the most likely one to be correct is in favor of practicing circumcision in the moderate Islamic way indicated in some of the Prophet's hadiths – even though such hadiths are not confirmed to be authentic. It is reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said to a midwife: "Reduce the size of the clitoris but do not exceed the limit, for that is better for her health and is preferred by husbands". The hadith indicates that circumcision is better for a woman's health and it enhances her conjugal relation with her husband. It’s noteworthy that the Prophet's saying "do not exceed the limit" means do not totally remove the clitoris.
Actually, Muslim countries differ over the issue of female circumcision; some countries sanction it whereas others do not. Anyhow, it is not obligatory, whoever finds it serving the interest of his daughters should do it, and I personally support this under the current circumstances in the modern world.
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite...
The author these hadiths admitted that some passages were not authentic...

"Abu Da'ud declared some of Hadiths in his book to be unauthentic, which makes his book different from Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim."
-wikipedia
Scooter-girl

United States

#13 Jan 28, 2008
Rayn wrote:
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The author these hadiths admitted that some passages were not authentic...
"Abu Da'ud declared some of Hadiths in his book to be unauthentic, which makes his book different from Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim."
-wikipedia
Yeah, I don't usually quote from anything other than Sahih. HOWEVER, Sunan isn't always false, only weak. And a Muslim can take that scholar's words and follow them and not be considered un-Islamic.

"Anyhow, it is not obligatory, whoever finds it serving the interest of his daughters should do it, and I personally support this under the current circumstances in the modern world."
Muslim01

Chicago, IL

#14 Jan 28, 2008
Kansasdemo wrote:
In Africa Muslims take young girls and cut out their clitoris so that when they marry the man may enjoy sex but not them. It also means the man does not have to 'bother' with trying to please her or care about the mutual act of love.
Muslim men care about women as they might a cow or dog or maybe a pet monkey. They have no respect, love or admiration for women. They are a piece of meat to be used when needed and put away behind thier masks when not in use. I hate Muslims! do not make even one excuse for thier presence on this earth.
African christians and others also practice this.

i don't get your point

“God loves to heal people”

Since: Nov 07

Oxford, UK

#15 Jan 28, 2008
Kansasdemo wrote:
In Africa Muslims take young girls and cut out their clitoris so that when they marry the man may enjoy sex but not them. It also means the man does not have to 'bother' with trying to please her or care about the mutual act of love.
Muslim men care about women as they might a cow or dog or maybe a pet monkey. They have no respect, love or admiration for women. They are a piece of meat to be used when needed and put away behind thier masks when not in use. I hate Muslims! do not make even one excuse for thier presence on this earth.
In the UK, they rip young babies from the arms of mothers in maternity wards and give them to rich old women who have left it too late (in their pursuit of a career) or to rich homosexual couples.

This is true. If you don't believe me, google the name "Fran Lyons" in and see what comes up.

To do this is just as vile as taking someone's clitoris away. Just as vile.
My Brother Bilo

Montréal, Canada

#17 Jan 28, 2008
When the clitoris is cut off, the men put it on top of their penis because it's bigger than the penis itself.

“Hello Dahling...”

Since: Jan 08

Berdoo

#18 Jan 28, 2008
Scooter-girl wrote:
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It's tribal, but can easily be justified through Islamic scholars, as the one I posted above. That particular scholar is well known and highly respected--he just received the "ok" to teach at mosques in Britain.
Yeah, I think I've heard of it with some muslims (within tribes) in Africa.
Scooter-girl

Portland, OR

#20 Jan 28, 2008
Vixen13 wrote:
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Hi there: Did you hear that some American banks like Citibank for instance are getting into Sharia banking? Several European banks are already well into it already and now American banks are jumping on the bandwagon.
So please keep your eyes and ears open to any bank who has adopted this type of banking and boycott them! Please spread the word. I know Citibank is definitely one of them!
Bank of America is as well. I don't think that a "boycott" would work in this instance.

What's actually happening with "Sharia Banking" is that instead of charging interest, there are other ways the bank can make money on the money they lend. It usually in the form of fees and monthly "maintenance charges" that they make it up.

It's really not truly Islamic banking, because when you look at the simple economics of it it can't work long-term.

I could be wrong about the Sharia Banking industry but that's what I've heard from some Muslims talking about it. If I am wrong, someone correct me.

“Hello Dahling...”

Since: Jan 08

Berdoo

#21 Jan 28, 2008
Scooter-girl wrote:
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Bank of America is as well. I don't think that a "boycott" would work in this instance.
What's actually happening with "Sharia Banking" is that instead of charging interest, there are other ways the bank can make money on the money they lend. It usually in the form of fees and monthly "maintenance charges" that they make it up.
It's really not truly Islamic banking, because when you look at the simple economics of it it can't work long-term.
I could be wrong about the Sharia Banking industry but that's what I've heard from some Muslims talking about it. If I am wrong, someone correct me.
Thanks for the information. Well, countries oftentimes are not conquered outright, but inch by inch, in increments. By the time you know what's going on, it's too late.
eris

Bury Saint Edmunds, UK

#22 Jan 29, 2008
Bank that have any form of Sharia banking should be boycotted as a matter of principle. It is creeping islamisation. Slowly, slowly catchee kafir.

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