I beleive that Jesus is...

Created by True Believer on Dec 1, 2013

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God's incarnation on earth

Son of God

Was crucified,died and resurrected

Equal and one with God

Have human and devine qualities

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Quadratus

United States

#1 Dec 1, 2013
The Son of God.
My Savior.
Trust is a Must

Kansas City, MO

#2 Dec 1, 2013
"""I beleive that Jesus is..."""

Where is the "...a pedophile, a pimp and a drugs addict and peddler" option?

Luckily this pervert criminal was sentenced to death by a Court of Law and executed!
Tony

Keswick, Canada

#3 Dec 1, 2013
Trust is a Must wrote:
"""I beleive that Jesus is..."""
Where is the "...a pedophile, a pimp and a drugs addict and peddler" option?
Luckily this pervert criminal was sentenced to death by a Court of Law and executed!
You have mistaken - this poll is not concerning your dad -to whom all the above attributes fits.- it is about that sinless devine person called JESUS, who is God incarnate, who came into this world as a human being for a purpose.
Trust is a Must

Kansas City, MO

#4 Dec 1, 2013
Tony wrote:
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You have mistaken - this poll is not concerning your dad -to whom all the above attributes fits.- it is about that sinless devine person called JESUS, who is God incarnate, who came into this world as a human being for a purpose.
You sound like a pedophile too.

Have you molested children today?
Darth Yoda

Preston, UK

#5 Dec 1, 2013
Quadratus wrote:
The Son of God.
My Savior.
Ho ho ho, Jingle bells, Batman Smells...

David is also God's Begotten Son in Psalms 2:7

I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me,“You are my Son; today I have begotten you.

Obadiah 21 Saviours

21  And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau

Try again Q.
warner

Ireland

#6 Dec 1, 2013
who="Darth Yoda"]<quoted text>
Ho ho ho, Jingle bells, Batman Smells...
David is also God's Begotten Son in Psalms 2:7
I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me,“You are my Son; today I have begotten you.
Obadiah 21 Saviours
21  And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau
Try again Q.
The “Father-Son” Language. At least 100 times in the Gospels Jesus called God His Father. Is this just a general reverence to the spark of divinity in all people (for they too can refer to God as Father), or does it actually mean He was procreated in some way, or does it have a totally different meaning?
We have to link this terminology with the claims of Jesus Himself, namely, that He was sent to earth by the Father (John 14:24; John 5:26). Or the claims of those he taught, namely that he is the eternal God who created everything (John 1). And then there is also the hostile witness of his enemies: they sought to kill him because he made himself equal with God (John 5:17). From a human point of view, that is why he died: the charge was blasphemy. Or, study the parable of the vineyard: the owner sent his son to the vineyard, and they killed him (Matt. 21:33-46). Why? Because he was the son. In other words, there would have been no cross without Jesus’ claim to be equal with God the Father and heir of all things. And everyone, believer and unbeliever alike, acknowledges that Jesus was crucified. So the point of Jesus’ use of the “Father-Son” language was meant to teach that he was equal to the Father in nature but subordinated to the Father for the mission.
2. The “Only Begotten Son” Language. The second piece of evidence we must examine is the expression “only-begotten.” It is the Greek word “monogeneis.” This is not simply “begotten,” for that expression can be applied to all believers, those who have been begotten or born again by the Spirit. This is a unique expression for a unique person, the only-begotten Son of God. The expression appears in John 1:14, 4:18, 3:16, and 3:18. It would literally mean the “only generated one.” This is the key expression for the doctrine of “the eternal generation of the Son,” meaning, he always was the only begotten Son. The expression does not refer to the birth of Jesus in Bethlehem, because he is the Son from eternity past.
As copied from Bible.org
Yet again l say that the Gospels were written for Christians and not for Athiests or Muslims, as they were written for a people who already believed, instead of written in order to convince disbelievers.
warner

Ireland

#7 Dec 1, 2013
Divine Messiah predicted in the Old Testament
Isaiah 7:14:“Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.”1

“Immanuel” literally means:“God with us.” See also Matthew 1:23; Jesus was “God with us.”

This Messiah would be born a human son, but have a higher nature
Isaiah 9:6:“For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And He will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”

This was a radical statement coming from a monotheistic Jewish prophet -- especially calling a human being “Mighty God”; but one that God fulfilled centuries later in Christ.

A couple hundred years later, but still more than half a millennium before Jesus walked the earth, more was predicted about the Messiah’s divine nature
Daniel 7:13-14:“There before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven ... He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.”

“Son of Man” was the primary title Jesus used for Himself -- and this passage shows that this was a clear and strong claim of deity. And in Mark, the earliest of the four Gospels, He also included the unmistakable phrase,“coming on the clouds of heaven” and applied it to Himself (Mark 14:62). His listeners got the point, refused to believe it, and added it to their reasons to try to kill Him.
Jesus is God – His Earthly Ministry
The baby Jesus worshiped by the Magi
Matthew 2:11:“On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him.”

Along with being led to the site where Jesus was born, these Magi were apparently informed by God about Jesus’ divine identity, and so they responded appropriately by worshiping Him.

Jesus accepted worship from His disciples
Matthew 14:32-33:“And when they climbed into the boat, the wind died down. Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying,‘Truly you are the Son of God.’”

In a Jewish culture, only the one true God can be worshiped; their actions show that they acknowledged Jesus as being divine. And Jesus didn’t correct them or say,“Don’t you realize that I’m just a mortal prophet? Stop worshiping me!” Rather, He accepted their worship, knowing He really was God in human flesh.

Jesus’ claim about Himself
John 8:58-59: "‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus answered,‘before Abraham was born, I am!’ At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.”

This is a powerful double claim from Jesus: first, that He pre-existed His human birth and was actually alive and present (as God) before Abraham; second, that His title was “I am”-- which was the same title used for Jehovah God in Exodus 3:14. His listeners again got the point, and picked up stones to execute Him!
Frank

Keswick, Canada

#8 Dec 1, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>The “Father-Son” Language. At least 100 times in the Gospels Jesus called God His Father. Is this just a general ......
Yet again l say that the Gospels were written for Christians and not for Athiests or Muslims, as they were written for a people who already believed, instead of written in order to convince disbelievers.

Brother warner- I think such valuable thoughts are wasted on that hard rock who is worse than the Satan himself in this forum. Holy bible aptly terms advices to such people as-" Casting Pearls before swine" and "casting pearls" refer to a quotation from Matthew 7:6 in Jesus's Sermon on the Mount, implying that you should not put what is valuable in front of those who will reject the notion that it has value and furthermore that they will seek to diminish or destroy what you offer.

"Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces"
Darth Yoda

Preston, UK

#9 Dec 1, 2013
John 3:16:

The most widely translated sentence on earth is said to be Jesus' statement of John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son..." While Christians wish to say that the word "only-begotten" gives Jesus special status among all the "sons of God", again there is a problem if ambiguity. The same word translated as "only-begotten" is found at Hebrews 11:17. In this verse the word refers to Isaac. The Bible itself shows that Isaac's older brother Ishmael outlived his father (Genesis 25:9). Therefore, at no time was Isaac, strictly speaking, the only-begotten son of Abraham. Recognizing this, Christian scholars qualify the meaning of the word in this case and give it a less than literal interpretation. But if the meaning is subject to interpretation here, why not also in the passage of John 3:16? Once more the possibility of ambiguity means that John 3:16 is inconclusive evidence.
Darth Yoda

Preston, UK

#10 Dec 1, 2013
warner
If Jesus wanted to claim pre-human existence a better statement would be "Before Adam..." why stop at Abraham - angels were created before Abraham too.

There is a quotation that should be mentioned here also. At John 8:58 it is reported that Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I am". Even if Jesus meant to claim by these words that he was alive before Abraham was, is this sufficient ground to say that he was divine? If Jesus lived in heaven then came to earth it might mean something remarkable, but it would not be enough to establish him as God incarnate. Additionally, it should be noted that these words are open to other interpretation. Christians do not imagine that the prophet Jeremiah had a pre-human existence and so they find a suitable way of interpreting the words of Jeremiah 1:5 which portray such a situation, if taken literally, Why not apply a similar understanding in the case of John 8:58?
Darth Yoda

Preston, UK

#11 Dec 1, 2013
John 8:58

Ambiguous Evidence

Some scholars have insisted that in this statement of Jesus just discussed, he appropriated for himself a divine title. In Exodus chapter 3, it is reported that God told Moses "I am what I am," as most English Bibles translate the Hebrew text. At John 8:58 Jesus says, "before Abraham was, I am," as most English Bibles translate the Greek text. But here is the key to another deception. The original of the first text is in Hebrew while the original of the second is in Greek. All but a few of Jesus' words were recorded in Greek. For two hundred years before the time of Jesus the Jews used a Greek translation of their Hebrew scriptures, the Septuagint. This work translated the key phrase "I am" of Exodus as HO ON. However, the words of Jesus, "I am", have been given to us in Greek as EGO EIMI. If the gospel writer of John 8:58 wanted to tell his Greek-speaking audience that Jesus had imitated God he would have used the familiar words of the Septuagint, otherwise the point would be lost. The evidence of John 8:58 is far from conclusive.
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#12 Dec 2, 2013
Salaamz & Merry Cross-Mess! LOL! The Beloved messenger Jesus(pbuh) was Never Ever possessed by any divine or demonic entity that claimed to be God Almighty inhabiting the black skinned and beautiful soul of the Messenger Jesus.The huge( H U G E !) Lie was orchestrated by the ancient & unholy church whos sole purpose was to engulf man in dogmatic idiomz just to keep him permanently confused and as far away from the divine as humanly possible. CheerZ
warner

Herne Bay, UK

#13 Dec 2, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>
Brother warner- I think such valuable thoughts are wasted on that hard rock who is worse than the Satan himself in this forum. Holy bible aptly terms advices to such people as-" Casting Pearls before swine" and "casting pearls" refer to a quotation from Matthew 7:6 in Jesus's Sermon on the Mount, implying that you should not put what is valuable in front of those who will reject the notion that it has value and furthermore that they will seek to diminish or destroy what you offer.
"Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces"
I agree with you Frank! Yet, we fight against them with the sword of truth as we are directed to do, but you are right that they are swine trampling over pearls! We are not achieving anything in trying to stand against them on this forum, but when l read their lies, l feel compelled to fight against their lies and ignorance. What can we achieve with people who are the Followers of Satan but who genuinely seem to think that they serve the true God? You know that Jesus said that in the end times that his enemy would slaughter his sheep and think that they are doing it in his name, the name of God! We have come to these Times, and the signs are there to indicate that the false Jesus will probably make his appearance in about 20 years!

Islam was always an Evil that has its directives to take over the World, and it was difficult to keep it at bay without the governments allowing it to settle in our Christian Lands! Now that it is within, l believe that it is only a matter of time, and they know that too! Any triumph of Islam over previously Christian Lands is not down to Islamic action but down to the secular mentality that allowed them in to our countries. Political Correctness was created deliberately, l think, to allow it to flourish! Islam is not going to disappear and all the wishful thinking will not make it so! You do know that they will take over our Lands and burn all the Bibles, and promote Mohammad as the Truth of God. We await the return now of the true Jesus, and l am frustrated with Him for saying that he will do it at the last trumpet call, and our only comfort is that when they kill us is that God will put us under his alter in Heaven, until he gathers over time the rest of his saints, and comes back to deal with the False Prophet and the Beast!
warner

Herne Bay, UK

#14 Dec 2, 2013
who="Darth Yoda"]warner
If Jesus wanted to claim pre-human existence a better statement would be "Before Adam..." why stop at Abraham - angels were created before Abraham too.
There is a quotation that should be mentioned here also. At John 8:58 it is reported that Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I am". Even if Jesus meant to claim by these words that he was alive before Abraham was, is this sufficient ground to say that he was divine? If Jesus lived in heaven then came to earth it might mean something remarkable, but it would not be enough to establish him as God incarnate. Additionally, it should be noted that these words are open to other interpretation. Christians do not imagine that the prophet Jeremiah had a pre-human existence and so they find a suitable way of interpreting the words of Jeremiah 1:5 which portray such a situation, if taken literally, Why not apply a similar understanding in the case of John 8:58?
Before Abraham was, I am". Even if Jesus meant to claim by these words that he was alive before Abraham was, is this sufficient ground to say that he was divine? Yes, it is on that alone, and we have the right to believe it. So Buzz off!
warner

Herne Bay, UK

#15 Dec 2, 2013
Darth Yoda wrote:
John 8:58
Ambiguous Evidence
Some scholars have insisted that in this statement of Jesus just discussed, he appropriated for himself a divine title. In Exodus chapter 3, it is reported that God told Moses "I am what I am," as most English Bibles translate the Hebrew text. At John 8:58 Jesus says, "before Abraham was, I am," as most English Bibles translate the Greek text. But here is the key to another deception. The original of the first text is in Hebrew while the original of the second is in Greek. All but a few of Jesus' words were recorded in Greek. For two hundred years before the time of Jesus the Jews used a Greek translation of their Hebrew scriptures, the Septuagint. This work translated the key phrase "I am" of Exodus as HO ON. However, the words of Jesus, "I am", have been given to us in Greek as EGO EIMI. If the gospel writer of John 8:58 wanted to tell his Greek-speaking audience that Jesus had imitated God he would have used the familiar words of the Septuagint, otherwise the point would be lost. The evidence of John 8:58 is far from conclusive.
The evidence that Mohammad was a prophet of Satan is conclusive and every time his followers open their mouths and use arrogance and blasphemy against Yahweh, it shows the Satanic Religion called Islam that it is the religion of Satan!
warner

Dublin, Ireland

#16 Dec 2, 2013
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
Salaamz & Merry Cross-Mess! LOL! The Beloved messenger Jesus(pbuh) was Never Ever possessed by any divine or demonic entity that claimed to be God Almighty inhabiting the black skinned and beautiful soul of the Messenger Jesus.The huge( H U G E !) Lie was orchestrated by the ancient & unholy church whos sole purpose was to engulf man in dogmatic idiomz just to keep him permanently confused and as far away from the divine as humanly possible. CheerZ
You just stick to your fantasies of being in sexual intimacy with your hero, Mohammad, the paedophile and thief and liar and warrior/mass murderer, and slave master! Mohammad has enslaved you and you can see who he really is in the future when you go to Hell, and who knows, he will probably have a domain there with his slaves of allah, suffering under the one that they mistakenly and sinfully adored!
Farwa

Europe

#17 Dec 2, 2013
I love Jesus(Hazrat Isaa) prophet of Allah
Robotroller

Secaucus, NJ

#18 Dec 2, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>You just stick to your fantasies of being in sexual intimacy with your hero, Mohammad, the paedophile and thief and liar and warrior/mass murderer, and slave master! Mohammad has enslaved you and you can see who he really is in the future when you go to Hell, and who knows, he will probably have a domain there with his slaves of allah, suffering under the one that they mistakenly and sinfully adored!
Your jesus was a pedophile, a pimp, a drugs addict and drugs peddler.

For all those crimes he was justly and lawfully sentenced to death and executed.
Frank

Keswick, Canada

#19 Dec 2, 2013
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
Salaamz & Merry Cross-Mess! LOL! The Beloved messenger Jesus(pbuh) was Never Ever possessed by any divine or demonic entity that claimed to be God Almighty inhabiting the black skinned and beautiful soul of the Messenger Jesus.The huge( H U G E !) Lie was orchestrated by the ancient & unholy church whos sole purpose was to engulf man in dogmatic idiomz just to keep him permanently confused and as far away from the divine as humanly possible. CheerZ
Salt lake parasite Rabbeen-you base your argument on that all time fable book, coined by Mohamed, who wanted to somehow steal the halo of Lord Jesus to himself , by concocting the bible stories in his favour. Don't ever try to educate us about lord Jesus-he is not a messenger-as you filthily say, but LORD OF LORDS AND LIGHT OF LIGT. "Every knee shall bend (including you filthy one),and every tongue will confess Jesus is Lord" Amen.
Frank

Keswick, Canada

#20 Dec 2, 2013
warner wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with you Frank! Yet, we fight against them with the sword of truth as we are directed to do, but you are right that they are swine trampling over pearls! We are not achieving anything in trying to stand against them on this forum, but when l read their lies, l feel compelled to fight against their lies and ignorance.
Very true Brother. On second thoughts after going through your comments above,,I have come to the conclusion that you are doing the right thing. What you have written may not touch the heart of the person intended- but may reach out to thousands of other readers whom true god reveals himself. I invite you to look into the life of this fierce fanatic Muslim propagator, who has given thousands of lectures against Christianity at all western plat forms. Now, he renounced Islam once for all openly....I am talking about Farhan quireshi. Some of his argument speeches against Christianity are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Famous Muslim Debater left Islam...Why ?..see this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Lord works in mysterious ways.

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