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#148 Mar 10, 2013
Trisha wrote:
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Three months ago he was writing anti islam comments encouraging all to embrace atheism.
Show me the link where he states he all of the sudden married a muslim willing to marry an islam hater?
Don't you worry about him to me. He was with you and criticising Islam and after 3 month, he is supporting Islam it's normal attitude.

I think I got that from information given to me by ravenclaw may be I misunderstood but it's not really matter he is a free man like you.

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#149 Mar 10, 2013
Ravenclaw wrote:
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Good, you are one of 2 muslims here that condemns the atrocity committed by other muslims. Most of them laugh and call for more violence.
You are right, these attacks shouldn't keep happening...but they will. They are a regular occurance. It doesn't matter if all of pakistan is against it, since it keeps happening every few weeks. It's up to the muslims to police themselves, and stop these atrocities. Sadly, muslims have proven time and again that they have no intention of stopping. In fact, every day we see more islamic support for the violence and atrocity. We see muslims rioting and murdering innocent people over words. We have seen repeatedly that muslims have no respect for human life.
Based on your refusal to acknowledge the staggering human rights violations against muslim women in your own country, and your immediate acceptance of the animal that posts outrageous lies about non muslims, I have no hope that you are reasonable or moderate. You are happy to see anyone hating non muslims, and you don't care what else they say or do. Then you wonder why islam and muslims aren't respected.
I would say that then there is not big difference between you and those few muslim out of billion muslim who are doing wrong. You are the one who condemning to all muslim by WORDS and they are the few muslim who are providing you ammunition for your words so you do the same thing in words to muslim.

Second I am not agree that 2 muslim condemn the attack, you better observe pakistani media across pakistan its full of condemnation and against the action. And as I said that whole pakistan suffering in this war last 15 years.

And you are saying about animal against islam that I accept his post and you did too over long period of time when he was against muslim, I only know him since last week and I will say that he tried to bring your attention about your back and front yard with few websites references, so what you think I should condemned him to bring facts to you. But I will condemn if find some thing not write.

And please quote where I refuse that women are not suffering in my country, I always condemn growing suffering of women in Paksitan and this is the reason I wrote that article I posted on Islam forum and it's only for muslim women but i decide to share with international women.

I always try to compare two things or societies like Muslim society for women and western society for women.

For example in western society despite the prosperity women are suffering as I pass URL to you or trisha last week from "animal against Islam" and internet is full of those problem women are facing.

For example in Msulim society despite the best Ideology but poverty or poor system women are suffering, but it's not mean that man are having good life they are suffering too and responsibility to bring income to their family is not as easy, as in western countries but majorities have no family in western countries you have to consider that too.

Please try to compare society and then people who live in the society and then provide solution accordingly then criticism but only criticism don't work itself and if you belong to first world then also force to your politician to distribute prosperity evenly to tackle poverty around the world and reasons are behind in unfair economy.

As on this forum we all trying to force words in other mouth really don't work, especially if some one hungry and poor. As I already try to pass my message to Master, If we got the right or good master will help.

Again please quote that where I talked against non muslim and as "animal against Islam" I know him only last week and you know him a lot longer than that must be supportive as well.
Also see my post about india and indian muslim and I am really multicultural oriented person. I never talk against other religion because it is against Islam.

I hop and pray that world would be better palce ammeen.

“Alea iacta est!”

Since: Oct 06

Oh it's ON!

#150 Mar 10, 2013
Jabbar Abdul wrote:
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Don't you worry about him to me. He was with you and criticising Islam and after 3 month, he is supporting Islam it's normal attitude.
I think I got that from information given to me by ravenclaw may be I misunderstood but it's not really matter he is a free man like you.
I'm not sure if you're using a translator but your post isn't clear in it's meaning.

'it's a normal attitude'?

Only a few months ago he was posting links to sites for others to learn from which are atheist.

Only a few months ago he condemned Islam and Muslims.

I was informing you a clarification because you seem confused. I don't have to convince you of anything. I'm not really interested in what you think of Animal.

It's clear to me from his own posts, he's just a dishonest troll.

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#151 Mar 11, 2013
Jabbar Abdul wrote:
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Don't you worry about him to me. He was with you and criticising Islam and after 3 month, he is supporting Islam it's normal attitude.
I think I got that from information given to me by ravenclaw may be I misunderstood but it's not really matter he is a free man like you.
I never said that.

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#152 Mar 11, 2013
jabber, your other post has nothing on it worth responding to. You started this thread with the intent of lying to people about islam giving rights to women, when in fact islam oppresses and tortures women. I have more than proved your words are a lie.

Deal with that or don't. It's your problem. Facts are facts, and that is what I deal with, not your fantasies of how things 'ought' to be.

Since: Dec 07

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#153 Mar 11, 2013
Jabbar Abdul wrote:
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Don't you worry about him to me. He was with you and criticising Islam and after 3 month, he is supporting Islam it's normal attitude.
I think I got that from information given to me by ravenclaw may be I misunderstood but it's not really matter he is a free man like you.
By the way, I am female and I don't appreciate you calling me a male the way the other muslime trolls here do.
Nandrelle

Saint Louis, MO

#155 Mar 18, 2013
victoria wrote:
<quoted text>The motivation of the muslim terrosrists is relegion.Not evry muslim is a terrorists but the ones that are do it in the name of relegion.In the past couple of decades there has been this relegious revival and now the muslims have gone power mad now evrything has to be changed for them piggybanks are offensive the three little pigs being told at nursery scholl is offensive hot cross buns are offenive tha first six letters of christman are offensive we should change the name to winterfest your girls dress like sluts which we find offensive and therefore are asking to be raped all western men are drunks we arent british were just muslim living in britain this is what i haer from muslim constantly.And as for women F.G.M. PUBLIC WHIPPING FOR BEING RAPED NEEDING FOUR WITNESSES TO THE RAPE BEING FORCED TO MARRY RAPISTS OR BEING PUT IN PRIDON FAMILY MEMBERS MURDERING TO REGAIN FAMILY HONOUR i.e. HONOUR KILLING I COULD GO ON BUT IT WOULD TAKE TOO LONG.And all this they do in then namr of relegion everytime thayndo something its islam so relegion is to blame in this instance
You babbling to me about how about religion is yet you as a 'Christian' society arent any better in those things! There are still rapes,murdering and child molestation in the Christian society! Be it doesnt matter if it is religion or not,humanity is still to blame for majority of the things on the planet! But according to you Islam is the only one responsible for it!
Kazim

Pakistan

#156 Mar 18, 2013
Women are cool.
victoria

Slough, UK

#157 Mar 19, 2013
Nandrelle wrote:
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You babbling to me about how about religion is yet you as a 'Christian' society arent any better in those things! There are still rapes,murdering and child molestation in the Christian society! Be it doesnt matter if it is religion or not,humanity is still to blame for majority of the things on the planet! But according to you Islam is the only one responsible for it!
Im not saying the rest of the world is perfect far from it there are horrible things happening in all socities.But i do beliveve that silam promoted bad things then uses their relegion as a reason to do these things it's like it's o.k. to murder somwone because they used the word mohammed in a book i have read the satanic verses it's used once it isnt imsulting yet salman rushdie has a price on his head dont tell me thats rational behesding over some silly cartoons.TERIIBLE PUNISHMENTS ONR THAT STICKS IN MY HEAD IS THE WOMENS ROOM YOU ARE TRAPPED IN ROOM THE WINDOWS ARE BRICKED UP THE DOOR IS CLOSED YOU GET FOOD BUT YOU DONT SEE ANYONE AND YOU ARE KEPT IN THEIR IN THE DARKNESS WITH NOTHING TO KEEP YPU COMPANY UNTILL YOU GO MAD AND DIE.And you think those are the actions of normal people islam is warped it is seriously evil especially to women and all the ills wouldn't be solved if we got rid of islam but a whole lot of them would be better.In islam man rules and it dosent matter what he does he often gets away with it while the woman suffers what kind of relegion is that.

“Mad as Hell”

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#158 Mar 19, 2013
victoria wrote:
<quoted text>TERIIBLE PUNISHMENTS ONR THAT STICKS IN MY HEAD IS THE WOMENS ROOM YOU ARE TRAPPED IN ROOM THE WINDOWS ARE BRICKED UP THE DOOR IS CLOSED YOU GET FOOD BUT YOU DONT SEE ANYONE AND YOU ARE KEPT IN THEIR IN THE DARKNESS WITH NOTHING TO KEEP YPU COMPANY UNTILL YOU GO MAD AND DIE.
You poor little thing.
Looks like you were locked in a small dark cupboard as a little girl and when you came out UNSPEAKABLE things were done to your mind and body by a family member.
victoria

Slough, UK

#159 Mar 19, 2013
animals against islam wrote:
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You poor little thing.
Looks like you were locked in a small dark cupboard as a little girl and when you came out UNSPEAKABLE things were done to your mind and body by a family member.
No actually i read this in a book called princess where a saudi princess told a women in secret how it is.The girl in question he was subjected to this horrendous fate was an only daughter a rich saudi couple and was actually for a change a marriage of love.Anyway as an only child the father lavished her with love and attention and when she asked to be educated in america he sent her there.Unfortunately he died and her uncle ordered her home and arranged a marriage for her against her will.When her husband took her home ans found out she wasnt a virgin he tool her back to his uncle who then put her in the women room.Read the book i recommend then try and defend that.
abba

Mesquite, NV

#160 Mar 19, 2013
victoria wrote:
<quoted text>No actually i read this in a book called princess where a saudi princess told a women in secret how it is.The girl in question he was subjected to this horrendous fate was an only daughter a rich saudi couple and was actually for a change a marriage of love.Anyway as an only child the father lavished her with love and attention and when she asked to be educated in america he sent her there.Unfortunately he died and her uncle ordered her home and arranged a marriage for her against her will.When her husband took her home ans found out she wasnt a virgin he tool her back to his uncle who then put her in the women room.Read the book i recommend then try and defend that.
woman shuold b virgin.if u want 2 corupt tham juss send them 2 west an spend weekend with victoria.

Since: Feb 13

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#161 Mar 19, 2013
victoria wrote:
<quoted text>Im not saying the rest of the world is perfect far from it there are horrible things happening in all socities.But i do beliveve that silam promoted bad things then uses their relegion as a reason to do these things it's like it's o.k. to murder somwone because they used the word mohammed in a book i have read the satanic verses it's used once it isnt imsulting yet salman rushdie has a price on his head dont tell me thats rational behesding over some silly cartoons.TERIIBLE PUNISHMENTS ONR THAT STICKS IN MY HEAD IS THE WOMENS ROOM YOU ARE TRAPPED IN ROOM THE WINDOWS ARE BRICKED UP THE DOOR IS CLOSED YOU GET FOOD BUT YOU DONT SEE ANYONE AND YOU ARE KEPT IN THEIR IN THE DARKNESS WITH NOTHING TO KEEP YPU COMPANY UNTILL YOU GO MAD AND DIE.And you think those are the actions of normal people islam is warped it is seriously evil especially to women and all the ills wouldn't be solved if we got rid of islam but a whole lot of them would be better.In islam man rules and it dosent matter what he does he often gets away with it while the woman suffers what kind of relegion is that.
Please Victoria don't judge others from your window. Like every thing shine is not gold, like every diamond, you can not judge it until you shined it.
I really respect your concern about women and every one should do it and it is very important issue of the time.
Victoria as you know that around more than billion muslim in the world and such a incident possible especially countries have no system or poor system. I won't compare here with your system.
But I will advise you that instead you keep judging others from your window, why not you visit to muslim families in your country in UK and observe muslim women and muslim women thoughts about Islam and muslim women comments about islam because these msulim women not from Saudi Arabia or Pakistan they are from UK and born and bread in UK would help you.
george whyte

Lincoln, UK

#162 Mar 19, 2013
'I was forced to marry and become pregnant at 13... then my husband's family hired a hitman to kill me for 50 when I escaped: Incredible life story of schoolgirl given away to a stranger in Pakistan

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-229...
victoria

Slough, UK

#163 Mar 19, 2013
Jabbar Abdul wrote:
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Please Victoria don't judge others from your window. Like every thing shine is not gold, like every diamond, you can not judge it until you shined it.
I really respect your concern about women and every one should do it and it is very important issue of the time.
Victoria as you know that around more than billion muslim in the world and such a incident possible especially countries have no system or poor system. I won't compare here with your system.
But I will advise you that instead you keep judging others from your window, why not you visit to muslim families in your country in UK and observe muslim women and muslim women thoughts about Islam and muslim women comments about islam because these msulim women not from Saudi Arabia or Pakistan they are from UK and born and bread in UK would help you.
I have met muslims before there not an alien life form iv'e nevr encountered before i'd say half my classes when i was at school were muslim.Some of them were so bad at english some of the teaches actually went to trouble of trying to learn urdu. But as i have said i knew many muslims i even had a few muslim freinds i mean yes a friends father made mr cry when i was nine by telling me my knee lenght school skirt was too short and my friend was attacked by a muslim and i had a muslim man verbally attack me and if a muslim man sees any woman or women especially if there young he follows them usually middle aged men do it i dont know what makes them think this is accetable behaviour so i have faced animosity from british muslim.I can accept that not evrey muslim should be represented by these people but when muslim have a bad rep anyway they really should all try to be nice people then only thr really bad ones would be hated unfortunately we havt those radical muslims in england giving hate speeches what chance have we got when they are being brainwashed to hate eveything including people that arent muslim.See a problem there.
victoria

Slough, UK

#164 Mar 19, 2013
abba wrote:
<quoted text>woman shuold b virgin.if u want 2 corupt tham juss send them 2 west an spend weekend with victoria.
If women should be virgins then men should be too but as often in islam men have sex with prostitutes and then infect thir wives with aids.And they do have prostitution in islam lots of women whose husbands have died and cant find a husband because ther no longer virgins have to resort ot selling thme selves just to survuve because of your stupid mentatlity.Be honest the only reason you want a virgin is just in case she migh have had a good lover she can tell if your a crap lay you dont want a woman who can compare you to another men yet you can have up to 4 wives how is that fair men dont need sex wanting and needing are two diffrent things and cetainly not with 4 diffrent women of course there are ways around this let the women have 4 additional lover as well if she has more shildren so what she has to help look after the other wives children and maybe the men could put their wages clun together to pay for the wives and children unless of course the women are allowed to go out and work when the children are at school or one of the other mothers is a atay at home mum to mind the children.And abba you small minded little tosser yes my ameircan friends that mean he wanks men off.There are lots of women in the west who are virgins they have taken a pledge and givena ring even non -religious women i know what to wait for marriage but there is nothing wrong if two cosenting adult decide to show love for that person without marriage love is never wrong and you dont need marriage to enjoy thr man you chosen to be with at that time.And by the way usually when i go out with my girlfriends we dont have sex those are girls nights to have fum and chat about our boyfriends not run off and have sex with somone

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#165 Mar 20, 2013
victoria wrote:
<quoted text>I have met muslims before there not an alien life form iv'e nevr encountered before i'd say half my classes when i was at school were muslim.Some of them were so bad at english some of the teaches actually went to trouble of trying to learn urdu. But as i have said i knew many muslims i even had a few muslim freinds i mean yes a friends father made mr cry when i was nine by telling me my knee lenght school skirt was too short and my friend was attacked by a muslim and i had a muslim man verbally attack me and if a muslim man sees any woman or women especially if there young he follows them usually middle aged men do it i dont know what makes them think this is accetable behaviour so i have faced animosity from british muslim.I can accept that not evrey muslim should be represented by these people but when muslim have a bad rep anyway they really should all try to be nice people then only thr really bad ones would be hated unfortunately we havt those radical muslims in england giving hate speeches what chance have we got when they are being brainwashed to hate eveything including people that arent muslim.See a problem there.
Victoria thanks for your comments and your personal experience and express well from your window.
But how your muslim girl friends defend Islam and themselves and compare with your culture and life style. Please give some comments from your Muslim girls friends as well, would help me to understand thanks.
Nandrelle

Saint Louis, MO

#166 Mar 20, 2013
victoria wrote:
<quoted text>Im not saying the rest of the world is perfect far from it there are horrible things happening in all socities.But i do beliveve that silam promoted bad things then uses their relegion as a reason to do these things it's like it's o.k. to murder somwone because they used the word mohammed in a book i have read the satanic verses it's used once it isnt imsulting yet salman rushdie has a price on his head dont tell me thats rational behesding over some silly cartoons.TERIIBLE PUNISHMENTS ONR THAT STICKS IN MY HEAD IS THE WOMENS ROOM YOU ARE TRAPPED IN ROOM THE WINDOWS ARE BRICKED UP THE DOOR IS CLOSED YOU GET FOOD BUT YOU DONT SEE ANYONE AND YOU ARE KEPT IN THEIR IN THE DARKNESS WITH NOTHING TO KEEP YPU COMPANY UNTILL YOU GO MAD AND DIE.And you think those are the actions of normal people islam is warped it is seriously evil especially to women and all the ills wouldn't be solved if we got rid of islam but a whole lot of them would be better.In islam man rules and it dosent matter what he does he often gets away with it while the woman suffers what kind of relegion is that.
So in other words majority of the problems of this world is because of the Islamic religion according to you! This tells me that you are either stupid or you are just another babbling religious bafoon! If a person is muslim or not,he/she still has a choice to do right or wrong! At the end they are all human beings and its human nature for people to do bad things! You think if Islam didnt existed those kind of things wouldnt happen,of course they would happen. Why do some people take drugs or refuse to take them? It is very simple,its because of human nature..You think that religion or Christianity or even Islam is going to make that choice for you...Its us who make that choice...
It seems you are aware that not all societies are that great because still blame it mostly on Islam! Unlike you,i blame humanity for the problems on this planet! You make it sound like Islam is some person whose going around destroying humanity! Its humanity thats destroying itself not Islam or religion!

TERIIBLE PUNISHMENTS ONR THAT STICKS IN MY HEAD IS THE WOMENS ROOM YOU ARE TRAPPED IN ROOM THE WINDOWS ARE BRICKED UP THE DOOR IS CLOSED YOU GET FOOD BUT YOU DONT SEE ANYONE AND YOU ARE KEPT IN THEIR IN THE DARKNESS WITH NOTHING TO KEEP YPU COMPANY UNTILL YOU GO MAD AND DIE.

This sounds a lot like solitary confinement they have in prisons.Maybe those prison guards are muslims so they are doing that sort of thing...Use your brain!
victoria

Slough, UK

#167 Mar 20, 2013
Nandrelle wrote:
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So in other words majority of the problems of this world is because of the Islamic religion according to you! This tells me that you are either stupid or you are just another babbling religious bafoon! If a person is muslim or not,he/she still has a choice to do right or wrong! At the end they are all human beings and its human nature for people to do bad things! You think if Islam didnt existed those kind of things wouldnt happen,of course they would happen. Why do some people take drugs or refuse to take them? It is very simple,its because of human nature..You think that religion or Christianity or even Islam is going to make that choice for you...Its us who make that choice...
It seems you are aware that not all societies are that great because still blame it mostly on Islam! Unlike you,i blame humanity for the problems on this planet! You make it sound like Islam is some person whose going around destroying humanity! Its humanity thats destroying itself not Islam or religion!
TERIIBLE PUNISHMENTS ONR THAT STICKS IN MY HEAD IS THE WOMENS ROOM YOU ARE TRAPPED IN ROOM THE WINDOWS ARE BRICKED UP THE DOOR IS CLOSED YOU GET FOOD BUT YOU DONT SEE ANYONE AND YOU ARE KEPT IN THEIR IN THE DARKNESS WITH NOTHING TO KEEP YPU COMPANY UNTILL YOU GO MAD AND DIE.
This sounds a lot like solitary confinement they have in prisons.Maybe those prison guards are muslims so they are doing that sort of thing...Use your brain!
Firsp off i am not a christian.Im not of sny particular relegion although i was brought catholic i dont consider myself to be snyomore i dont go to church and i am agnostic.And of humanity is to blame for the bad things that happen but perfectly nice peopl can be turned by evil people to be evil themselves which is what happens in the islam relegion they pratice genocide and fly planes into buildings and they all cheer one muslim gets insulted and the 1.3 billion of them get annoyed.And solitary confinment insnt forever and they are actually in pridon for doing something wrong she didnt do anything wrong.Your thr kind of perso who would say dont blame hitler for the holocaust it was humanity dont hold him respeonsible
Nandrelle

Saint Louis, MO

#168 Mar 22, 2013
victoria wrote:
<quoted text>Firsp off i am not a christian.Im not of sny particular relegion although i was brought catholic i dont consider myself to be snyomore i dont go to church and i am agnostic.And of humanity is to blame for the bad things that happen but perfectly nice peopl can be turned by evil people to be evil themselves which is what happens in the islam relegion they pratice genocide and fly planes into buildings and they all cheer one muslim gets insulted and the 1.3 billion of them get annoyed.And solitary confinment insnt forever and they are actually in pridon for doing something wrong she didnt do anything wrong.Your thr kind of perso who would say dont blame hitler for the holocaust it was humanity dont hold him respeonsible
So in other words you are saying if a person is muslim,then they are to be blamed for the bad things that goes on around the world.I wonder if it would make a difference if the person is not practising Islam but still considers themselves a muslim? I suppose it wouldnt matter if they are or arent! It would remain the same!
Humanity is designed destroy each other whether religion exists or not! This has been going on for centuries even during the BC era! Where was Islam then?? It is all human nature..Human nature can be easily be corrupted by greed or lust for power...It has nothing to do with religion! Good people can at times turn evil,it all depends on the nature of the person! Just like Hitler..

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