Permissible kinds of lies in HOLY ISLAM
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#41 Oct 27, 2012
Ibn Abi Mulaika said: "I encountered thirty Companions of the Prophet (sas) every one of them fears hypocrisy for himself and Al-Hassan Al-Basri used to say about it: No one fears it but a believer and no one feels safe from it but a hypocrite." (Bukhari)
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#42 Oct 27, 2012
Another aspect of hypocrisy is to do apparently good deeds with wicked intentions. Allah said:{They set up a masjid for the purpose of harm, kufr, creating division among the Muslims and as an outpost for those making war against Allah and His Prophet before this and they will swear "We only intended good." And Allah bears witness that they are liars.} At-Tauba: 107
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#43 Oct 27, 2012
. Also: {Do not imagine that those who are joyful with what they have done and love to be praised for that which they did not do – do not imagine them to be safe from punishment – and theirs is a painful punishment.} Aal-Imraan: 188
george whyte

Brigg, UK

#44 Oct 27, 2012
Muslims are allowed to lie to unbelievers in order to defeat them. The two forms are:

Taqiyya - Saying something that isn't true.

Kitman - Lying by omission. An example would be when Muslim apologists quote only a fragment of verse 5:32 (that if anyone kills "it shall be as if he had killed all mankind") while neglecting to mention that the rest of the verse (and the next) mandate murder in undefined cases of "corruption" and "mischief."

read more.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/011-t...
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#45 Oct 27, 2012
. Consciousness will vary and this is not hypcrisy. The Prophet (sas) said to Handhala: "If you were to continue in the state which you achieved in my presence, the angels would greet you in your sittings and in the streets however, O Handhala, there are times and there are times."
george whyte

Brigg, UK

#46 Oct 27, 2012
Reliance of the Traveler (p. 746 - 8.2)- "Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible (N:i.e. when the purpose of lying is to circumvent someone who is preventing one from doing something permissible), and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory... it is religiously precautionary in all cases to employ words that give a misleading impression...

"One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie.
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#47 Oct 27, 2012
Lying. Al-Hassan Al-Basri said: "Nifaaq is the difference between the inner and the appearance, between statement and action and between entering and leaving and it used to be said that the foundation of nifaaq upon which it is built is lying."
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#48 Oct 27, 2012
Breaking Promises. This falls into two categories:

a) Making a promise with no intention of keeping it. Al-Awzaa’iy said that one who says "I will do such-and-such isha Allah" without intending to do it has committed both lying and breaking a promise.

b) Making a promise intending to keep it and then later deciding to break it.
Cohen

Guelph, Canada

#49 Oct 27, 2012
sick of it wrote:
what about all the lies you must tell yourself in order to remain a blissfully ignorant muslim? Are those lies permissible as well?
The most used LIES that Muslims use are:
1.Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.
2.Western Christians are standing in queu to join Islam.
3.Islam is the most peaceful religion.
4.Non-Muslims adhere to 'islamophobia'because they are jelous of Islam.
5.The principle of Al-Takeyya
The Arabic word, "Takeyya", means "to prevent," or guard against. The principle of Al Takeyya conveys the understanding that Muslims are permitted to lie as a preventive measure against anticipated harm to one's self or fellow Muslims. This principle gives Muslims the liberty to lie under circumstances that they perceive as life threatening. They can even deny the faith, if they do not mean it in their hearts. Al-Takeyya is based on the following Quranic verse:

"Let not the believers Take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution (prevention), that ye may Guard yourselves from them (prevent them from harming you.) But Allah cautions you (To remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah." Surah 3: 28

According to this verse a Muslim can pretend to befriend infidels (in violation of the teachings of Islam) and display adherence with their unbelief to prevent them from harming him.

Under the concept of Takeyya and short of killing another human being, if under the threat of force, it is legitimate for Muslims to act contrary to their faith. The following actions are acceptable:

*Drink wine, abandon prayers, and skip fasting during Ramadan.*Renounce belief in Allah.
*Kneel in homage to a deiy other than Allah
*Utter insincere oats(false promises)(which is used by Muslim men to attract Christian/Jewish women ,and to show them they are not at all a practicing Muslim - take them to bars,drink wine,dance with them,go to their churches-till they hook and marry these unsuspecting women. Then they will show their true colors to these poor victims by threatening him,and beating them)
These lies and deceptions are used against Kafairs(non-Muslims_even in business dealings,friendships,and immigration to a non muslim country.
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Haddah, Yemen

#50 Oct 27, 2012
There are three types of people whom Allah will neither talk to, nor look at, on the Day of Resurrection: A man who takes an oath falsely that he has been offered for his goods so much more than what he is given...[8]
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Haddah, Yemen

#51 Oct 27, 2012
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6. Lying when playing with children

* We must beware of lying when playing with children, because that will be written down (in the record of deeds of) the one who that. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned against doing that. It was narrated that �Abd-Allaah ibn �Aamir (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: �My mother called me one day when the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was sitting in our house. She said, �Come here, and I will give you (something).� The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, �What do you want to give him?� She said, �I will give him a date.� The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: �If you had not given him something, you would have been lying.��
* And it was narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: �The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: �Whoever says to a child, �Come here and take this,� then does not give him something, this is counted as a lie.��
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Haddah, Yemen

#52 Oct 27, 2012
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7. Lying to make people laugh
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It was narrated that Muaawiyah ibn Haydah said: I heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say:
Woe to the one who talks to make the people laugh and tells lies, woe to him, woe to him.
(narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 235. He said: this is a hasan hadeeth. Also narrated by Abu Dawood, 4990).

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ashkarlive4ALLAH

Haddah, Yemen

#53 Oct 27, 2012
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. Lying in jest

* Some people think that it is permissible to tell lies if it is in jest. This is the excuse that they use for telling lies on April 1st or on other days. This is wrong. There is no basis for this in the pure Shari'ah. Lying is haraam whether the one who does it is joking or is serious.
* Lying in jest is haraam just like other kinds of lies.
* It was narrated that Ibn �Umar said: �The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, �I joke, but I speak nothing but the truth.��
*(narrated by al-Tabarani in al-Mu�jam al-Kabeer, 12/391)
* This hadeeth was classed as hasan by al-Haythami in Majma� al-Zawaa�id, 8/89, and classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) in Saheeh al-Jami, 2494)
* It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah said: �They said, �O Messenger of Allaah, you joke with us.� He said, �But I only speak the truth.��
*(narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 1990)
* Abu �Eesa said: this is a saheeh hasan hadeeth.
* A similar hadeeth was narrated by al-Tabarani in al-Awsat (8/305) and classed as hasan by al-Haythami in Majma� al-Zawaa�id, 9/17
* �Abd al-Rahman ibn Abi Laylaa said: the companions of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told us that they were traveling with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). A man among them fell asleep and some of them went and took his arrows. When the man woke up, he got alarmed (because his arrows were missing) and the people laughed. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, �What are you laughing at?� They said, �Nothing, except that we took the arrows and he got alarmed.� The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: �It is not permissible for a Muslim to frighten another Muslim.�
*(Narrated by Abu Dawood, 5004; Ahmad, 22555 � this version narrated by Ahmad).
* This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jami�, 7658)
* It was narrated from �Abd-Allaah ibn al-Sa'ib ibn Yazeed from his father from his grandfather that he heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be
* This hadeeth was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jami�, 7658)
* It was narrated from �Abd-Allaah ibn al-Sa'ib ibn Yazeed from his father from his grandfather that he heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: �None of you should take the belongings of his brother, whether in jest or otherwise. Whoever has taken the stick of his brother, let him return it.�
*(Narrated by Abu Dawood, 5003; al-Tirmidhi, 2160 in brief)
* The hadeeth was classed as hasan by Shaykh al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jami�, 7578
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Haddah, Yemen

#54 Oct 27, 2012
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. The prohibition of speaking about everything that one hears
* It was narrated that Hafsa ibn �Aasim said: �The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: �It is sufficient lying for a man to speak of everything that he hears.��
*(Narrated by Muslim, 5)
* With regard to the meanings of the hadeeth and reports on this topic, they discourage speaking about everything that one hears. For usually a person will hear both true things and lies, so if he were to speak of everything that he hears, he would be lying, by telling of something that did not happen. We have stated above the view of the people of truth: that lying means telling of something in a manner other than the way it happened. It is not conditional upon it being done deliberately, but its being done deliberately is a condition of it being a sin. And Allaah knows best.�
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Haddah, Yemen

#55 Oct 27, 2012
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Lying in buying and selling.

* It was narrated from Abu Dharr (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: �There are three to whom Allaah will not speak on the Day of Resurrection and He will not look at them or praise them, and they will have a painful torment.� The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) repeated this three times. Abu Dharr said: �May they be doomed and lost, who are they, O Messenger of Allaah?� He said, �The one who lets his garment hang below his ankles, the one who reminds others of his favors, and the one who disposes of his goods by swearing a false oath.�
*(Narrated by Muslim, 106)
* It was narrated that Hakim ibn Hizaam (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: �The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: �The two parties involved in a transaction have the option [of canceling it] until they part. If they are honest and truthful, their transaction will be blessed for them and if they conceal something and tell lies, the blessing of their transaction will be wiped out.��
*(Narrated by al-Bukhari, 1973; Muslim, 532)
* Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymeeyah said:
* �Allaah has enjoined truthfulness and honesty, and He has forbidden lies and concealment with regard to matters which should be known and revealed to people, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said in a hadeeth whose authenticity is agreed upon: �The two parties involved in a transaction have the option [of canceling it] until they part. If they are honest and truthful, their transaction will be blessed for them and if they conceal something and tell lies, the blessing of their transaction will be wiped out.� And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
* �O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allaah as just witnesses; and let not the enmity and hatred of others make you avoid justice. Be just: that is nearer to piety�
*[al-Ma'idah 5:8].�
*(Minhaj al-Sunnah, 1/16)
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Haddah, Yemen

#56 Oct 27, 2012
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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ok, if I understand correctly, the 2 stories from you:
1. Husband bans wife from contacting her family and wife lied to avoid offending husband
They wife may "naturally" lie out of fear of her husband, once? twice? do you see it go on forever? Does it really take a prophet "permit" this and does it involve a godly wisdom? No, it only prolonged the problem instead of facing the problem behind it, and such lie is a slippery slope. It would become much worse for her when the husband eventually finds out that she has been lying all these years.(but perhaps in a muslim society her lie could save her life from a muslim man, I don't know, but in my society, honesty even in this case still works better in the end for both side, there are more effective ways to solve problems than lies).
If one takes such "permission" as sound advise and use it habitually, it would almost certainly make the situation worse.
2. Praising your wife eventhough her cooking is so-so and think you're lying
You did realize I was joking about your "beautiful lie" cause your wife to feed you bad food, right :)
You can encourage your wife without having to define it as a lie. You can show sincere thank and appreciate her work without negatively criticize her. Do you really think that wives can't assess the situation and know the meaning behind your words given the context? Such encouragement is mutually "understood" and should not be considered as lie. Certainly it isn't an example of lie you must use to "reconcile" of "fix thing up" that you haven't already properly dealt with.
u said it The wife may "naturally" lie out of fear of her husband 4 that ALLAH swa allowed 2 lie 2 avoid evil may will happen between them and that will not go on forever should come day 2 find solution do u think his wife did not try with him 2 find solution?? she tried but he is stubborn any way in islam it ok 2 lie 2 avoid evil may happen btween people if some one told me about u bad thing i will never say 4 u what he said or i will say he said good things about u second i will eulogize my wife infront of people even if she is not good enough.
muslim

Rainham, UK

#57 Oct 27, 2012
Mi_nina wrote:
Of course you know, that lies of any kind are a sin in Christianity.
LOL.. u have not red da bible

Since: Sep 09

Hollywood, FL

#59 Oct 27, 2012
muslim wrote:
<quoted text>LOL.. u have not red da bible
I have, apparently you have not.

Since: Apr 12

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#60 Oct 27, 2012
ashkarlive4ALLAH wrote:
do u think his wife did not try with him 2 find solution?? she tried but he is stubborn any way in islam it ok 2 lie 2 avoid evil
Maybe wife should bring her parents home to live with her husband for 3 months while she go vacation. Let them solve their problems...(good idea?)
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#61 Oct 28, 2012
Rusty Tin Can wrote:
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2. Praising your wife eventhough her cooking is so-so and think you're lying
You did realize I was joking about your "beautiful lie" cause your wife to feed you bad food, right :)
You can encourage your wife without having to define it as a lie. You can show sincere thank and appreciate her work without negatively criticize her. Do you really think that wives can't assess the situation and know the meaning behind your words given the context? Such encouragement is mutually "understood" and should not be considered as lie. Certainly it isn't an example of lie you must use to "reconcile" of "fix thing up" that you haven't already properly dealt with.
rusty it is boring 2 lie all the time i am just in specific satuation like some times the wife spend day 2 cook 4 her husband new food 2 surprise him but when he taste it. it is bad when she ask him how is it do u want 2 say the true bad or say it so good lie to seek her love,never try 2 embarras and eulogize her in front of your family and all people even if she does not desrve r u opposer 4 my talking.

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