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Netsemit

Spring Valley, NY

#152 Sep 17, 2012
Timesten wrote:
or call it....
'They should rename it to 'Hatemongers Bashing Islam and Muslims Welcomed Here'.
All lies. Syria burns. Islam is falling apart against the weight of its own oppression. The deep hatred runs like blood through Pakistan

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#153 Sep 17, 2012
bmz wrote:
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You are just assuming. You have not seen how violent are the Christians in Africa, Egypt and the Philippines. I have seen how sensitive they are and I know.
For you guys, it is okay because you don't have any shame. For you, it would be just another porno and you will enjoy.
That is why I have suggested that you make a video, showing Jesus fucking Mary Magdalene and the young boy John and show it to non-Western Christians. Only then you will see how barbaric and volatile they are, Ignorant fool!
I am from Africa and Christian and I won't be going out to kill because I see a video Jesus f.king Marry or any one, for that matter I won't even go out for riot. I will comment the movie for its ignorance of facts etc. You are a stupid monkey to try to give a testimony of us you know nothing about.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#154 Sep 17, 2012
Timesten wrote:
or call it....
'They should rename it to 'Hatemongers Bashing Islam and Muslims Welcomed Here'.
Let's talk about the hatemongers who post here and and the Muslim warmongers who cause it. The prophet Muhammad founded the Islam religion and solidified it and his political/military position as a leader by taking Mecca before his death his death in 632.

By 718, the Islamic faith had been spread throughout what is now the Middle East and as far as the Iberian (Spanish) Peninsula by the Muslim Umayyads (Moors). It was at this time Emir Abdul Rahman Al Ghafiqi moved north into France and put the city of Aquitaine to the sword. As he approached Tours, France, the Frankish army led by Charles Martel was waiting. Rahman, attacking with Arab and Berber cavalry was beaten back repeatedly, until Rahman was surrounded and killed by the Franks. Franks killed, around 1100 out of 30,000. Muslims killed, around 12,000 out of 50,000.

Islam attacked Europe to spread Islam just 86 years after is founding. Europe did not attack back until 377 years later at the time of the First Crusade led by Geoffrey de Bouillon of France.

Fact-Islam attempted to spread it's religious influence into Europe at the offset and was repulsed. Almost 400 years later Europe fought back. Islam was first to attack.

Fact-I am a direct descendant of both Charles Martel and Geoffrey de Bouillon and I will fight off any Muslim invasion of America to spread Islam with the same fanatical, brutal, defense and outcome as my ancestors dealt the "great Muslim armies" of early Islam.

Fact-Real Americans feel just like I do. If Muslims want to unleash the 'dogs of war', so be it.
Skeptic

Bethlehem, PA

#155 Sep 17, 2012
Timesten wrote:
"Pure bull feces from you to continue to fan the flames of hatred."
I disagree.
I see things that have come up on this issue that point to Jewish involvement.
That's where the true bull feces is,.... with their involvement.
And as far as fanning the flames of hatred, You should read through the near 400 pages of threads on this Islam forum. That will show you the real fanning and spreading the flames of hate.
They should rename it to 'Hatemongers Bashing Welcomed Here'.
Know The Truth:
Muslims are guilty of Murder.
Their actions of killing an American Ambassador in Libya
has proven that Mohammed was an insane prophet that taught Muslims to be crazy people.
Muslims can no longer hide the truth about the insanity of Mohammed from the world.
Every one in the world now knows that Mohammed was an insane prophet, and that the mind of Muslims have been screwed up by the teaching of their insane prophet Mohammed.
No doubt, there are going to be more and more videos coming out showing the insanity of Mohammed.
There are more videos coming out now that the crazy Muslims are on the rampage of killing innocent people over their insane prophet Mohammed then ever before.
Just turn on the radio or TV, every one is talking about that crazy Muslim prophet Mohammed, the rapist, robber, and murderer.
Shame on Muslims!
Jinn Martini

Lowell, MA

#156 Sep 18, 2012
Timesten wrote:
An American says he helped director of Muhammad film - videoAn American, Steven Klein, claims he acted as an advisor to the director behind the film Innocence of Muslims, which mocks the prophet Muhammad and has provoked violent protests in Libya, Egypt and Yemen. Klein denies any responsibility for the bloodshed, including the murder in Benghazi of the US ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens
He doesn't have any responsibility. To say that he does means he is in control of how Muslims behave and he can control them with any button press. Do Muslims want to admit to that?
k windsock

UK

#157 Sep 18, 2012
timesten - some people believe the muslim world is angry because they want to move to the west but can't. as someone who prefers living in the west, do you agree with the point made ?

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#159 Sep 18, 2012
k windsock wrote:
timesten - some people believe the muslim world is angry because they want to move to the west but can't. as someone who prefers living in the west, do you agree with the point made ?
What do you mean...."because they want to move to the west but can't?"
Over the last 10 years Muslim communities across the United States have seen tremendous growth.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/27/most...
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From the 1880s to 1914, several thousand Muslims immigrated to the United States from the Ottoman Empire, and from parts of South Asia; they did not form distinctive settlements, and probably mostly assimilated into the wider society. Many of the slaves brought to colonial America from Africa were Muslims; it is estimated that 15 to 30 percent of the African slaves were Muslims
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_Uni...
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USA Muslim Population Statistics
http://www.jannah.org/popstatistics/usamuslim...

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#160 Sep 18, 2012
Pamela Geller....
Geller associate Joseph Nasrallah ("Media For Christ") may be the producer of the "Sam Bacile" hate video, "Innocence of Muslims.
Geller and Robert Spencer co-founded the Freedom Defense Initiative
http://www.google.com/search...
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Geller, born to Jewish parents Reuben ("Ruby") and Lillian Geller, is the third of four sisters. Growing up in Hewlett Harbor, Long Island, New York.
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http://www.google.com/search...
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Robert Spencer...
Spencer a Zionist is the director of Jihad Watch, a program of the David Horowitz Freedom Center
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NuKFqlXuwo...
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In continuing defiance of the police ban, when invited to deliver his remarks, Spencer brought his Israeli flag to the podium and waved it back and forth before and after his speech.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.a...
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Spencer co-founded Stop Islamization of America (SIOA) and the Freedom Defense Initiative with Pamela Geller in 2010. Both organizations are designated as hate groups by the Anti-defamation league and the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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David Horowitz....
Horowitz was raised by parents who were members of the Communist Party USA
Horowitz was born to a Secular Jewish family in Forest Hills, New York City. His parents, Phil and Blanche Horowitz, were high school teachers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Horowitz
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The extensive history of Israeli and ultra-Zionist funding and promotion of Islamophobic propaganda in the United States provided Bacile's remarkable statement with the ring of truth.
http://www.google.com/search...
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One of the film's promoters is Maurice Sadek, a conservative Coptic living in California (and alleged to be "Sam Bacile)
Maurice Sadek, a radical copt, well connected with the US Israeli lobby.
http://www.google.com/search...
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http://www.google.com/search...
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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/12/anti-...
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From Spencer/Horowitz/Gellers Jihad Watch
Voice of the Copts stands together with the Jews of Israel and Jews around the world to confront the vicious attacks stemming from a religious and political ideology aimed against each and every one of us who are non-Muslim.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/01/coptic-lead...
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No Jewish involvement you say? Think a gain...

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#161 Sep 18, 2012
The Right-Wing Extremist Behind Anti-Muslim Film That Sparked Deadly Riots
http://maxblumenthal.com/2012/09/meet-the-rig...
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#162 Sep 18, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's talk about the hatemongers who post here and and the Muslim warmongers who cause it. The prophet Muhammad founded the Islam religion and solidified it and his political/military position as a leader by taking Mecca before his death his death in 632.
By 718, the Islamic faith had been spread throughout what is now the Middle East and as far as the Iberian (Spanish) Peninsula by the Muslim Umayyads (Moors). It was at this time Emir Abdul Rahman Al Ghafiqi moved north into France and put the city of Aquitaine to the sword. As he approached Tours, France, the Frankish army led by Charles Martel was waiting. Rahman, attacking with Arab and Berber cavalry was beaten back repeatedly, until Rahman was surrounded and killed by the Franks. Franks killed, around 1100 out of 30,000. Muslims killed, around 12,000 out of 50,000.
Islam attacked Europe to spread Islam just 86 years after is founding. Europe did not attack back until 377 years later at the time of the First Crusade led by Geoffrey de Bouillon of France.
Fact-Islam attempted to spread it's religious influence into Europe at the offset and was repulsed. Almost 400 years later Europe fought back. Islam was first to attack.
Fact-I am a direct descendant of both Charles Martel and Geoffrey de Bouillon and I will fight off any Muslim invasion of America to spread Islam with the same fanatical, brutal, defense and outcome as my ancestors dealt the "great Muslim armies" of early Islam.
Fact-Real Americans feel just like I do. If Muslims want to unleash the 'dogs of war', so be it.
Notice the deflection as a ruse to avoid the historical truth about the Islamic movement? Blame it all on the Jews.

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#163 Sep 18, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
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Notice the deflection as a ruse to avoid the historical truth about the Islamic movement? Blame it all on the Jews.
Notice the deflection to the proofs of the conspiracy and the people who are involved, on said topic, as a ruse to avoid the historical truth about the Zionist movement? Blame it all on the Muslims.

Works this way also....

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#164 Sep 18, 2012
'Innocence Of Muslims' Shot On Hollywood Set, Film Permit Connected To Christian Charity
"The Innocence of Muslims" was partially filmed on a set built for the CBS TV show "JAG" by Paramount's TV unit, according to The Hollywood Reporter. Portions of the low-budget film were shot in Santa Clarita, Calif., on an area of the Blue Cloud Film Ranch called “Baghdad Square." This set has been used by TV and movie productions -- including "Iron Man," "Arrested Development" and "CSI" -- to recreate Middle Eastern war zones.

The movie was partially shot at Blue Cloud Movie Ranch. The 100-acre ranch in the Santa Clarita Valley specializes in military settings, with a Middle East Town and Baghdad Square set that is so real the U.S. military uses it for training.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope...
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A former stuntman and actor, Rene Veluzat bought the ranch in 2000. In January, he told The Times he booked 70 shows and nearly $1 million in revenue last year, renting his property to crews for such TV shows as "Touched" and "Chuck" and the low-budget war movie "Battle Force."
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"I get 50 phone calls a day," Veluzat said then.
"Blue Cloud is one of the many movie ranches located in the Santa Clarita Valley that on a consistent basis hosts movies and television shows, " said Russell Sypowicz, film office administrator for the city of Santa Clarita. "Because it's unique it gets a significant amount of action."
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope...

Maybe this is the same place the FBI/CIA shot those fake OBL tapes eh.
http://www.google.com/search...
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http://www.google.com/search...

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#166 Sep 18, 2012
René Veluzat's eyes lit up as he described the ways in which production crews have disguised his Saugus filming ranch as an African village, Mexican marketplace, the streets of Baghdad, a Tibetan neighborhood, an army camp and more.

"That prison cell is a duplicate of a cell in Afghanistan," said Veluzat, standing in the midst of a dingy, dirt-floored space where the National Guard once filmed a military training video. "Osama bin Laden's look alike has been in there."
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Since purchasing the site in 2000, Veluzat has converted 100 acres of what used to be an unofficial trash-dumping grounds into a layout of 30 film sets he calls Blue Cloud Movie Ranch.
"I got three-and-a-half years worth of work outta them," Veluzat said. "It's not all about the town. The hills look like Afghanistan.
(Their) helicopters flew down this canyon all the time.
http://www.the-signal.com/archives/11935/
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Steve Klein, an insurance salesman also involved in the production, said that a person he identified as Sam — and who he now suspects may have been Mr. Nakoula — had enlisted his help.
Mr. Klein has a long history of making inflammatory and sometimes inaccurate statements about Muslims.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/us/origins-...

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#167 Sep 18, 2012
Rene Veluzat, owner of Blue Cloud Movie Ranch, shows off his military vehicles used on the set of The Controller: Battlefield 3.

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World's Best Battlefields: Blue Cloud Movie Ranch, CA, USA
http://www.airsoft2day.com/company-informatio...
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'Innocence of Muslims' Actress: Director 'Will Stand Before God for What He Has Done'(Q&A)
THR: Who directed Innocence of Muslims?
Garcia: It’s not up to me to tell you. I can tell you who the writer is. He’s the man they call Sam Bacile. He’s the culprit. But the other people started out innocent and bailed on him.
THR: So the director of this film is someone I would know of?
Garcia: Sure you would.
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While Nakoula Basseley Nakoula denies he's director Sam Bacile, he admits to managing the production of "Innocence Of Muslims"
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sam-bac...
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The attacks that killed the U.S. Ambassador to Libya and three others, supposedly inspired by an anti-Islam movie, may not be as clear cut as initially thought.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sam-bac...
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An AP report suggests that Nakoula may be the "Sam Bacile" who posted the video on YouTube; my conversation with a man who operates a real estate company under the name Jimmy Israel, and whose website was linked to the film's production, offers another link to Nakoula.
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Israel, who said he worked previously in theater and film production, said he came to the project, which was at the time called Desert Warriors, through his friend, the original director, who he refused to name. "I was going to produce it for him," he said, "but the original producer came back.
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Israel said he initially auditioned for a part in the movie, where he met a man who referred to himself as Sam Bacile or Bassiel. He was then asked to help with the production instead. He read the script, which he described as "awful — terribly bloody," but hoped he might be able to influence the film as the production progressed. At the time he was told by his friend — the director — and Bacile that the film was about the historical persecution of Coptic Christians.
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"That's what I understood it was about," said Israel, who noted that there were flashbacks to Muhammed "being a hypocrite," in the script, but nothing quite as inflammatory as what made it to YouTube. An actress involved in the production told Gawker that the script she worked from had very little to do with Islam or Muhammed. Indeed, the video on YouTube is crudely dubbed over at many points.
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Israel's time on the production was early and short: "I worked for two days going over the script," says Israel, "finding the casting venue, and putting the ad in Backstage, and trying to find a SAG deal." (BuzzFeed located him because a casting call for the film features a jimmyisrael.com email address).
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jwherrman/muhammed-mo...

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#168 Sep 18, 2012
Jimmy Israel, and whose website was linked to the film's production.
Nope no Jewish involvement here, maybe over there.
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These comes to mind having said that....
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http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch...
JM dot cumm

Trollhättan, Sweden

#169 Sep 18, 2012
Hey Tom why do you keep bumping this crap up?

Jusssssssssss
Curiousssssss

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#170 Sep 18, 2012
JM dot cumm wrote:
Hey Tom why do you keep bumping this crap up?
You'll see when it's done. That's only if you open your eyes to what/who is involved here with the story. Besides if you don't like it you don't have to read it right.... That's why they invented the mouse, scroll, click.
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Can you refute anything I posted?....
I didn't think so.
sick of it

United States

#171 Sep 18, 2012
Muslims + Timesten: "waaaah! waaaaaah! those naughty jews are making fun of my beloved prophet again! Why can't they see islam is a religion of peace? This movie makes islam look like a religion whose adherents are barbaric looters, pillagers and murderers! We are very insulted! We'd better go join the mob and loot, pillage and murder to show the infidels what happens when you mess with our beloved prophet!"

Hahahahahahaha!

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#172 Sep 18, 2012
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#173 Sep 18, 2012
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
Notice the deflection to the proofs of the conspiracy and the people who are involved, on said topic, as a ruse to avoid the historical truth about the Zionist movement? Blame it all on the Muslims.
Works this way also....
Well it's obvious that trying to deal with you is like trying to pick up a turd by it's clean end.

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