No fun and joy in Islam

No fun and joy in Islam

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Sulaiman

Mississauga, Canada

#1 Feb 12, 2012
No fun in Islam :-(
"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."

-- Ayatollah Khomeini
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#2 Feb 12, 2012
Fun and joy are un-islamic.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#3 Feb 12, 2012
There is 'fun' in Islam!'fun'damentalist
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#6 Feb 12, 2012
Well...uh...we stopped taking the Old Testament literally about 1000 years ago...right around the same time we decided that the world wasn't flat and that burning "witches" was a bit extreme....

http://news.yahoo.com/saudi-arabia-executes-w...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20556...

http://www.examiner.com/foreign-policy-in-bal...

In the scheme of things...muslim "culture is really only like 1500 years behind us.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#7 Feb 12, 2012
Why Tom? We all know people in non Islamic countries can sing, dance, fly kites, learn, have fun, date etc because non Islamic societies are free to go forth and enjoy ourselves.
george whyte

Ilford, UK

#8 Feb 12, 2012
the web site isreality is using is called evilbible.co.m its been exposed many times. http://atheismexposed.tripod.com/evilbible.ht...
george whyte

Ilford, UK

#11 Feb 12, 2012
fol·ly   [fol-ee] Show IPA
noun, plural -lies for 2–6.
1.
the state or quality of being foolish; lack of understanding or sense.
2.
a foolish action, practice, idea, etc.; absurdity: the folly of performing without a rehearsal.
3.
a costly and foolish undertaking; unwise investment or expenditure.
4.
Architecture . a whimsical or extravagant structure built to serve as a conversation piece, lend interest to a view, commemorate a person or event, etc.: found especially in England in the 18th century.
5.
follies, a theatrical revue.

nothing to do with having fun, another epic fail
Isreality

Pittsfield, MA

#13 Feb 12, 2012
Seems you all have fun trying to crack slanderous hateful jokes at people, so I'd say #1 fits perfectly.
Isreality

Pittsfield, MA

#14 Feb 12, 2012
folly
the state or quality of being foolish; lack of understanding or sense.
george whyte

Ilford, UK

#15 Feb 12, 2012
Isreality wrote:
Show me where there are any fun or jokes in the Old Testament or the New Testament.
Folly

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TOC...
lol so now you know the meaning of folly. do you feel like a fool
Solomon

Mississauga, Canada

#16 Feb 12, 2012
Isreality wrote:
Keep trying hatemongers...
Isreality- with so much knowlege about the bible, still you are groping in dark chamber of Islam. I am Damn sure you are going to see the true light of Christ in the near future like Brother Farhan Qureshi.
bmz

San Diego, CA

#17 Feb 12, 2012
islam is a joke. it is fun to poke fun at it. muslims just make it funnier. f. islam.
Isreality

Pittsfield, MA

#18 Feb 12, 2012
Solomon wrote:
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Isreality- with so much knowlege about the bible, still you are groping in dark chamber of Islam. I am Damn sure you are going to see the true light of Christ in the near future like Brother Farhan Qureshi.
Wanna talk about your Talmud or the Tanuch? Let's see how dark it is there?
Give it a go.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#19 Feb 12, 2012
Isreality wrote:
<quoted text>
The following verse can be found in the Torah, the Latin Vulgate and the Bible. All condone by the N/T
.
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
.
Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live.(Exodus 22:17 NAB)
.
Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
.
Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
.
Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.(Exodus 21:15 NAB)
.
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness.(Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense.(Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
.
Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.(Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
.
Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
.
Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.(Exodus 22:19 NAB)
.
Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
.
Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.(Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
..
Afew more morsels. of Gods law
Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
.
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
.
Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
.
Death for Blasphemy,[You remember this one, right]
.
Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT
Kill False Prophets
Deuteronomy 17:6
On the testimony of two or three witnesses a man shall be put to death, but no one shall be put to death on the testimony of only one witness.
.
Romans 1:24-32 NLT
Infidels and Gays Should Die
.
Numbers 1:48-51 NLT
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
.
Exodus 31:12-15 NLT
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
Numbers 31:17-18
17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
.
.19 "All of you who have killed anyone or touched anyone who was killed must stay outside the camp seven days. On the third and seventh days you must purify yourselves and your captives. 20 Purify every garment as well as everything made of leather, goat hair or wood."
.
Nice huh? Your buds that you claim are so innocent
But Tom, how many of these laws are actually practiced in western countries?

Since: Jan 12

Zeeland, ND

#20 Feb 12, 2012
Sulaiman wrote:
No fun in Islam :-(
"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."
-- Ayatollah Khomeini
Look at who said that. Iran does not represent Islam. Less than 20% of the worlds Muslims are Shi'i about half of which life in Iran.

Yes we lack humor. We definitely refuse to laugh at ourselves as seen in this link

http://www.iranian.com/Satire/2003/March/Comi...

Of course that is only because she lives in the USA you would never find anything like that in a Muslim Nation. Everybody is much too serious



Of course you will never find a Saudi Arabian Muslim comedian

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#21 Feb 12, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
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But Tom, how many of these laws are actually practiced in western countries?
Please! The truth is irrelevant!

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#22 Feb 12, 2012
Isreality wrote:
<quoted text>
The following verse can be found in the Torah, the Latin Vulgate and the Bible. All condone by the N/T
.
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
.
Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live.(Exodus 22:17 NAB)
.
Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
.
Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
.
Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.(Exodus 21:15 NAB)
.
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness.(Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense.(Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
.
Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.(Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
.
Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
.
Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.(Exodus 22:19 NAB)
.
Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
.
Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.(Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
..
Afew more morsels. of Gods law
Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
.
Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
.
Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
.
Death for Blasphemy,[You remember this one, right]
.
Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT
Kill False Prophets
Deuteronomy 17:6
On the testimony of two or three witnesses a man shall be put to death, but no one shall be put to death on the testimony of only one witness.
.
Romans 1:24-32 NLT
Infidels and Gays Should Die
.
Numbers 1:48-51 NLT
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
.
Exodus 31:12-15 NLT
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
Numbers 31:17-18
17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
.
.19 "All of you who have killed anyone or touched anyone who was killed must stay outside the camp seven days. On the third and seventh days you must purify yourselves and your captives. 20 Purify every garment as well as everything made of leather, goat hair or wood."
.
Nice huh? Your buds that you claim are so innocent
Izzy, what are you implying by quoting OT verses?...that Christian theology believes in those harsh punishments for sins etc?
Isreality

Pittsfield, MA

#23 Feb 12, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
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But Tom, how many of these laws are actually practiced in western countries?
They aren't practiced because the Jooish Pharisees/Scribes/Rabbis, Rewrote/revised the books to assimilate in other lands, into the Talmud. And even that has been revised over and over. Think about it, if all of these laws, as cruel as they appear to be, were still in effect, the morals and decency of people would not be as corrupt as they are today. That's why they were given in the first place by Moses and his scribes, to control the people. To put fear into them, so they would not worship other gods, steal or fornicate. That's what happened in Noah's day, the earth was filled with corruption...

Genesis 6..
11 Now the earth was corrupt in God’s sight and was full of violence. 12 God saw how corrupt the earth had become, for all the people on earth had corrupted their ways. 13 So God said to Noah,“I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.
.
Sure we are free to do what we please in the free world, but look at the corruption that exists in that world. Freedom brought us freedom to bypass the seven deadly sins
https://www.google.com/search...
And these are the items that go against the God in all of the religions
The Joo's bypassed their laws to acquire this freedom and the Christians followed suit. The Muslims held fast and didn't allow reform to revise their book as the Joo's/Xtians did. So they maintained with their original laws, which are the same today as they were for the Joo's 2500 years ago.
That's not my opinion it's all true fact.
Isreality

Pittsfield, MA

#24 Feb 12, 2012
Naturally Wired wrote:
<quoted text>
Izzy, what are you implying by quoting OT verses?...that Christian theology believes in those harsh punishments for sins etc?
NMo cross wired If i meant that, I would've said: "Christian theology believes in those harsh punishments for the remission of sins., But I never said nothing near that. What I am saying is that they should be obeying those laws....by the words of their very own book.
.
Those laws are still valid according to these words here.
.
All laws are still valid and in effect
.
Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
.
Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
.
Matthew 5:18
I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Matthew 5:19
Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 5:20
For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

When it says anyone, you... It applies to all, everybody, then, yesterday and tomorrow.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#25 Feb 12, 2012
Isreality wrote:
<quoted text>
NMo cross wired If i meant that, I would've said: "Christian theology believes in those harsh punishments for the remission of sins., But I never said nothing near that. What I am saying is that they should be obeying those laws....by the words of their very own book.
.
Those laws are still valid according to these words here.
.
All laws are still valid and in effect
.
Matthew 5:17
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
.
Matthew 5:18
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
.
Matthew 5:18
I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
Matthew 5:19
Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 5:20
For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.
When it says anyone, you... It applies to all, everybody, then, yesterday and tomorrow.
Punishments for sins all chnaged because of Christ's forgivness, which was God's new covenant for humanity. The laws never changed, the punishments did.

Part of Christ's "fullfillment of the law" was the fullfillment of OT prophecy that said He would come and what He offered for the world.

These aspects of Christian theology are easy to google with numerous sites explaining it better than me.

What commandments are being broken? Most Christians know other gods are wrong, homosexuality is still wrong, etc but they are not stoning people to death for it because of Christs forgiveness should you ask for it. Would you prefer that people were still stoned to death?

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