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Pew: 64% of Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan support death penalty for leaving Islam

There are 33 comments on the Hot Air story from May 1, 2013, titled Pew: 64% of Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan support death penalty for leaving Islam. In it, Hot Air reports that:

Not surprising, but sufficiently flabbergasting that both the Economist and WaPo are showing off the data.

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#1 May 2, 2013
Hidden away at the bottom of the article is this gem:
"Maybe the correct predictor isn’t religious pluralism but regional and political culture:"
Exactly.
Just as FGM is a cultural issue.

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#2 May 2, 2013
Wow, and they are supposed to be moderate Muslims.

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#3 May 2, 2013
Islam is such a weak belief that the only way to keep people in is to threaten them with death if they leave the evil clutches of Islam.

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#4 May 2, 2013
Basil Muhammad wrote:
Hidden away at the bottom of the article is this gem:
"Maybe the correct predictor isn’t religious pluralism but regional and political culture:"
Exactly.
Just as FGM is a cultural issue.
Is not Apostasy a sign that Islam is not a true religion?
Onelawforall

London, UK

#5 May 2, 2013
Basil Muhammad wrote:
Hidden away at the bottom of the article is this gem:
"Maybe the correct predictor isn’t religious pluralism but regional and political culture:"
Exactly.
Just as FGM is a cultural issue.
It's in the holy hadiths. Muhammad said if a muslim leaves Islam kill him. Nothing cultural about that. It is Islamic ideology. All the Islamic schools say that apostates should be punished. When all the Islamic schools condemn apostasy it is not culture. It is ideology.
Rip tide

Rochester, NY

#6 May 2, 2013
I thought Obama said they were peaceful?
Onelawforall

London, UK

#7 May 2, 2013
Basil Muhammad wrote:
Hidden away at the bottom of the article is this gem:
"Maybe the correct predictor isn’t religious pluralism but regional and political culture:"
Exactly.
Just as FGM is a cultural issue.
FGM is not a cultural issue. Muhammad gives permission to cut a girl. That makes it part of islamic ideology. Don't you read your own holy books?

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#8 May 2, 2013
supersonic boom wrote:
Islam is such a weak belief that the only way to keep people in is to threaten them with death if they leave the evil clutches of Islam.
Death penalty for leaving the faith was christian thing before islam
its mentioned in the new testament " killing of apostates "

In islam, Holy Quraan didn't say kill apostates but hadiths is what mentioning it

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#9 May 2, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
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Death penalty for leaving the faith was christian thing before islam
its mentioned in the new testament " killing of apostates "
In islam, Holy Quraan didn't say kill apostates but hadiths is what mentioning it
Where is it mentioned?

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#10 May 2, 2013
Neenaa wrote:
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Where is it mentioned?
little neena

Old testament:

2 Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."

New testament:

Romans 1:21
21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.

Romans 1:23
23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

Romans 1:25
25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

Romans 1:32
32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

Read the whole part:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

According to these verses:

If someone was believer in god (xtian) and he tried to get away from God and worship other things, The punishment would be death.

As the verse No 32 says" they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death "

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#11 May 2, 2013
In old testament,many verses order you to kill anybody not worshiping your god

Read the biblical verses:

Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

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#12 May 2, 2013
Rip tide wrote:
I thought Obama said they were peaceful?
we are peaceful but there are some old classic minds,they are strict and fanatic, those who believe in killing apostates

majority of muslims don't believe in killing apostates

Holy Quraan is clear" ALLAH made it free for eveyone"

Holy Quraan words:

“Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.”[Surah al-Baqarah 2:256]
Onelawforall

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#13 May 2, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
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Death penalty for leaving the faith was christian thing before islam
its mentioned in the new testament " killing of apostates "
In islam, Holy Quraan didn't say kill apostates but hadiths is what mentioning it
The Quran says kill apostates:
"They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be all alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly their homes in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper."
Quran 4:89
The view of the vast majority of islamic schools is that a male apostate should be put to death. unless he is mentally disturbed.
This includes the major schools of Hanafi, Maliki, & Shafii.
This proives that it ios part of Islamic ideology.
It is not part od Christian ideology. Even if it was two wrongs do not make a right even though muslims think it does.
george whyte

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#14 May 2, 2013
Egyptian_lad that verse is abrogated
Onelawforall

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#15 May 2, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
<quoted text> we are peaceful but there are some old classic minds,they are strict and fanatic, those who believe in killing apostates
majority of muslims don't believe in killing apostates
Holy Quraan is clear" ALLAH made it free for eveyone"
Holy Quraan words:
“Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.”[Surah al-Baqarah 2:256]
The majority of muslioms do believe in killing apostates. Read the first post. 64% is a majority. You are in a minority.
george whyte

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#16 May 2, 2013
Bukhari:V4B52N260 "The Prophet said,'If a Muslim discards his religion, kill him.'"
george whyte

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#17 May 2, 2013
Bukhari (83:37)- "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations:(1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,)(2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."
Onelawforall

London, UK

#18 May 2, 2013
george whyte wrote:
Bukhari (83:37)- "Allah's Apostle never killed anyone except in one of the following three situations:(1) A person who killed somebody unjustly, was killed (in Qisas,)(2) a married person who committed illegal sexual intercourse and (3) a man who fought against Allah and His Apostle and deserted Islam and became an apostate."
Killed is a euphemism. Muhammad tortured people to death. Three apostates who stole camels and killed a shepherd were right to be punished but punishment was not enough for Muhammad. He branded them with hot irons, had their eyes plucked out, their hands and feet were cut off and they were thrown into the desert to be at the mercy of ants & dogs. There is also the woman who was tied between two camels and torn apart.
Muhammad was a sadistic monster.

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#19 May 2, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
<quoted text> we are peaceful but there are some old classic minds,they are strict and fanatic, those who believe in killing apostates
majority of muslims don't believe in killing apostates
Holy Quraan is clear" ALLAH made it free for eveyone"
Holy Quraan words:
“Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.”[Surah al-Baqarah 2:256]
The koran contradicts itself.

Like it or not death for apostates in Islam demands the death penalty, it's right there in the koran and most muslims agree with that rule.

Those muslims who do not agree with the koran are not real muslims.

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#20 May 2, 2013
Onelawforall wrote:
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FGM is not a cultural issue. Muhammad gives permission to cut a girl. That makes it part of islamic ideology. Don't you read your own holy books?
To cut slightly as now practiced in the West (Hoodectomy) and not mutilate.

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