Today I end my support of Israel

Today I end my support of Israel

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Gazacaust

Singapore, Singapore

#1 Jan 7, 2009
by Chilean Jew
Sun Dec 28, 2008 at 11:07:48 AM PST

Like davidminzer, I'm Jewish and descendant of holocaust survivors. Moreover, I've been a Zionist all of my life. I went to a Zionist school, I was active in Zionist youth groups. I've always been a fervent supporter of Israel as a refuge for Jews around the world who seek a place to exercise their traditions and embrace their identity in peace.

I sang the Israeli anthem in the train rails of Aushwitz-Birkenau and I pledged to fight every day of my life to make sure the savage crimes that had taken place there would never happen again. Every year I pledged: Never Again. Remember and Never forget.

Well, I haven't forgotten. And so to honor that pledge, to honor the memory of my family members who died in those death camps and because "there comes a time when silence is betrayal", today I finally and publicly end my support for the state of Israel.

* Chilean Jew's diary ::::
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I do this with great pain in my heart, but nonetheless with the overwhelming conviction that it is the only right thing to do. I was patient: I tolerated the destruction of the Oslo process by refusing to end or slow down the constant and criminal construction of settlements. I held my nose and stood my ground when Barak killed the final status negotiations at Taba 2001. I even remained loyal after Sharon's massacres in the West Bank, the brutal Annexation wall, the illegal "selective assassinations" and Olmert's war crimes in Lebanon.
Gazacaust

Singapore, Singapore

#2 Jan 7, 2009
I had to defend Israel and Israelis with my friends and others who demanded I be consistent with my progressive views and oppose a country that was responsible for horrible crimes against innocent human beings. "Israelis are scared, they are traumatized, you have to understand...", "Israel is responding to attacks on itself, tell me one other country that wouldn't respond when attacked...", I demanded understanding, I pleaded for a fair and comparative analysis.

ENOUGH. I'm done justifying crimes against humanity by a country that claims to be an illuminated western democracy. I'm done defending a country that is unwilling to grant self-determination to a neighboring people because it won't let go of a few settlements and divide a city. I'm done tolerating the slaughtering of innocent kids, the murderous and barbaric occupation of an impoverished people, the utter disregard for human life.
**** them.
If they think their daily peace of mind is worth the lives of hundreds of innocent people,**** them.
If they think the best way to go right now would be to vote for Natanyahu (who is so far winning in the polls),**** them.
If they won't bat an eye before keeping millions without electricity or water, before bombing civilian neighborhoods at exactly the time when kids are leaving schools, before breaking every standard of international law or moral decency,**** them.
Gazacaust

Singapore, Singapore

#3 Jan 7, 2009
It's time for every true progressive in this country and around the world to do the only thing that our consciences should allow us to do, the only thing that can keep us consistent with our supposed beliefs that human life is precious and that unnecessary violence is always criminal, barbarous and unacceptable. We must demand that Israel stop violence and immediately put an end to its colonialist military occupation of Palestine.
And until they do so, we must organize and do everything we can to make sure our money is not financing mass murder and oppression.
It is time for the progressive movement to demand immediate Divestment from Israel, just like we divested from other oppressive states like South Africa.
The only reason not to do so is willful hypocrisy.
And I don't know about you, but I'm done being a hypocrite.
Unnecessary murder of innocents is always wrong.
Selfish and unjustifiable occupation is always wrong.
Inaction in the face of massive suffering and injustice is always wrong.
It is thus our responsibility to make sure Obama and the rest of our leaders understand that this time we will be relentless, this time we mean business and this time we will honor our pledges.

NEVER AGAIN!

DIVEST NOW!

Peace
Salaam
Shalom
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/12/28/...
george whyte

UK

#4 Jan 7, 2009
Trallallero

Edmond, OK

#6 Dec 4, 2012
I ended it long time ago, after Sabra and Shatila.
Gazacaust

Germany

#7 Dec 4, 2012
WoW !!!
Got an e-mail this thread has been revived.

Still actual i see.
WAS christen

Johannesburg, South Africa

#8 Dec 4, 2012
What kind of DEMONS are ruling this Barbaric Israeli state, at a time when hopes of Peace are rising again they announce more settlement expansions. An Israeli state that was founded on Bombings blood and Terrorism and need to be maintained with State approved murders of innocent women and children will never be approved by the HOLY return of a HOLY Jesus.
PATRIOT

Carmel, ME

#9 Dec 5, 2012
Gazacaust wrote:
I had to defend Israel and Israelis with my friends and others who demanded I be consistent with my progressive views and oppose a country that was responsible for horrible crimes against innocent human beings. "Israelis are scared, they are traumatized, you have to understand...", "Israel is responding to attacks on itself, tell me one other country that wouldn't respond when attacked...", I demanded understanding, I pleaded for a fair and comparative analysis.
ENOUGH. I'm done justifying crimes against humanity by a country that claims to be an illuminated western democracy. I'm done defending a country that is unwilling to grant self-determination to a neighboring people because it won't let go of a few settlements and divide a city. I'm done tolerating the slaughtering of innocent kids, the murderous and barbaric occupation of an impoverished people, the utter disregard for human life.
**** them.
If they think their daily peace of mind is worth the lives of hundreds of innocent people,**** them.
If they think the best way to go right now would be to vote for Natanyahu (who is so far winning in the polls),**** them.
If they won't bat an eye before keeping millions without electricity or water, before bombing civilian neighborhoods at exactly the time when kids are leaving schools, before breaking every standard of international law or moral decency,**** them.
This is where you lose you credibility with me. I don't doubt that you would love for people to believe you 'were' Jewish, but this post says that is not true. But where it is disgusting is in a claim to descend from Jews of the Holocaust, to then use those 6,000,000 human beings that were "exterminated" for no other reason than they were Jews, and now turn on their murders as if nothing happened, and Israel is the murderer.

You should just come right out and say who you really are-a Jew hater and a supporter of Palestinian terrorists.
PATRIOT

Carmel, ME

#10 Dec 5, 2012
WAS christen wrote:
What kind of DEMONS are ruling this Barbaric Israeli state, at a time when hopes of Peace are rising again they announce more settlement expansions. An Israeli state that was founded on Bombings blood and Terrorism and need to be maintained with State approved murders of innocent women and children will never be approved by the HOLY return of a HOLY Jesus.
The Israeli state that you refer to was founded well before there were Bombs, or terrorist. You want to ignore that historical fact, but you can't change it. The Israelis can build whatever they want to on land they have possessed for over 3,500 years-given that some of the empires like the Persian, Greek, Roman, Arab, and Ottoman have invaded and occupied this same land periodically during a 2,500 year time span.

But if you basically hate Jews, like you do, any old lie will do to make your point of view.
WAS christen

Johannesburg, South Africa

#11 Dec 6, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
<quoted text>
The Israeli state that you refer to was founded well before there were Bombs, or terrorist. You want to ignore that historical fact, but you can't change it. The Israelis can build whatever they want to on land they have possessed for over 3,500 years-given that some of the empires like the Persian, Greek, Roman, Arab, and Ottoman have invaded and occupied this same land periodically during a 2,500 year time span.
But if you basically hate Jews, like you do, any old lie will do to make your point of view.
You are blind old fool the facts are flying into your face . These ZIONIST rogues came out of Europe and the Balkans,and found the Palestinians there, go further back and maybe you will find out where their ancestors came from . DUMB---.
WAS christen

Johannesburg, South Africa

#12 Dec 6, 2012
Obviously only a supporter of child-killers will become as blind as you. Unless you are part of the LIE spreading propaganda machine in support of the ROGUE ZIONIST REGIME.
PATRIOT

Carmel, ME

#13 Dec 6, 2012
WAS christen wrote:
<quoted text> You are blind old fool the facts are flying into your face . These ZIONIST rogues came out of Europe and the Balkans,and found the Palestinians there, go further back and maybe you will find out where their ancestors came from . DUMB---.
How blind are you, FOOL? Palestinians are left overs from the Philistines, who came to Canaan 1,200 years BCE. The Hebrew called them Plistim.

The Plistim were a people from the Mycenaean area of the Aegean Sea-the were people who migrated by sea. Mycenaean's are considered to be Greeks.

So, fool, it appears that the Canaanite Hebrews were in possession of what is now Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza, 250 years before the Philistines, fool.

And the Hebrew were from the Chaldean area of what is now Iraq. Their patriarch being Abraham of the city of Ur, fool.

Get you nose out of the Quran and read what the WORLD has produced and you won't look so much like the fool you are. The world is getting tired of Muslims re-writing history.
PATRIOT

Carmel, ME

#14 Dec 6, 2012
WAS christen wrote:
Obviously only a supporter of child-killers will become as blind as you. Unless you are part of the LIE spreading propaganda machine in support of the ROGUE ZIONIST REGIME.
Why don't you and Timesten hook-up. You both are sounding like two parrots on the same limb, fool.

Since: Aug 12

Turkey

#15 Dec 6, 2012
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