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Alen

London, UK

#330 Jul 6, 2010
GODisONE wrote:
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GOD knows best, the Quran says 'yes', and you reject.
Your judgment rests with GOD.
Have you read the verses i gave you?

“The evidence is everywhere.”

Since: Nov 08

Toronto

#331 Jul 6, 2010
Alen wrote:
<quoted text>Have you read the verses i gave you?
Yes, of course I have read those verses. I have been reading the Quran every day, morning and evening, for over 3 years now. You understanding of those verses is incorrect. Of course, you feel otherwise. Nevertheless, you are still incorrect.

peace
Alen

London, UK

#332 Jul 6, 2010
GODisONE wrote:
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Yes, of course I have read those verses. I have been reading the Quran every day, morning and evening, for over 3 years now. You understanding of those verses is incorrect. Of course, you feel otherwise. Nevertheless, you are still incorrect.
peace
Well then, let me be perfectly blunt: how can a falsehood enter when God says in His own Book:41:42 No falsehood could enter it, presently or afterwards; a revelation from One Most Wise, Praiseworthy.

How can Rashad come to purify anything, when God tells us all: 5:3.......Today I have perfected your system for you, and completed My blessings upon you, and I have approved submission as the system for you.......
Alen

London, UK

#333 Jul 6, 2010
According to 17:59, God stopped sending MIRACLES with Mohammad because previous people did not believe them, even thoug they asked for them.

Are you telling me that now God changed His mind in 1974 and sent Rashad with a mathematicle MIRACLE and therefore broke His own Word in 17:59???????

Also, according to 10:20 Mohammad was told to tell them to just wait. You must see the WISDOM here, amigo, that 10:20 works perfectly well, hand in hand with 17:59.

“The evidence is everywhere.”

Since: Nov 08

Toronto

#334 Jul 6, 2010
Tell me....why does GOD say in 74:35 that '19' is "one of the great miracles". We know Muhammad did not come with any miracles. Thus, a miracle after Prophet Muhammad.

5:1-5 are all talking about the food prohibitions. The Jews messed up the food prohibitions and GOD perfected our religion that day in regards to food prohibitions (5:3). 5:3 was the 112 revelation. There were still 2 more revelations to come (9 and 110). Thus, the entire religion was not perfected until ALL revelations were revealed; the entire Quran.

So, like other Quranic topics, you have taken 5:3 out of context to suit your own rejection of GOD's great math miracle as stated in 74:35. And Yes...GOD referred to '19' as "one of the great miracles". So, how does that fit into your conjecture that no more miracles are coming. Exactly, it doesn't.

You see, you are deducing that no more miracles are coming, when the verse is clearly saying they stopped sending miracles in the past. It does not say 'we will stop sending miracles in the future'. You are deducing something that is not in the verse. As well, the Qurans states Muhammad saying to the people to wait for the future. Why would he tell them to wait for the future if no more miracles were coming? Do you not see how illogical your line of thinking is? You are upholding conjecture because you refuse to truly submit to GOD.

peace
Alen

London, UK

#335 Jul 6, 2010
GODisONE wrote:
Tell me....why does GOD say in 74:35 that '19' is "one of the great miracles". We know Muhammad did not come with any miracles. Thus, a miracle after Prophet Muhammad.
It does not say that code19 is the great miracle, does it? Quote correctly, please.
Alen

London, UK

#336 Jul 6, 2010
GODisONE wrote:
5:1-5 are all talking about the food prohibitions. The Jews messed up the food prohibitions and GOD perfected our religion that day in regards to food prohibitions (5:3). 5:3 was the 112 revelation. There were still 2 more revelations to come (9 and 110). Thus, the entire religion was not perfected until ALL revelations were revealed; the entire Quran.
I don't know which sura was revealed when and besides that is not important and also I don't know where did you got this info from, not from The Qur'an.
Alen

London, UK

#337 Jul 6, 2010
GODisONE wrote:
So, like other Quranic topics, you have taken 5:3 out of context to suit your own rejection of GOD's great math miracle as stated in 74:35. And Yes...GOD referred to '19' as "one of the great miracles". So, how does that fit into your conjecture that no more miracles are coming. Exactly, it doesn't.
You see, you are deducing that no more miracles are coming, when the verse is clearly saying they stopped sending miracles in the past. It does not say 'we will stop sending miracles in the future'.
No more miracles are coming because I believe in 17:59.

“The evidence is everywhere.”

Since: Nov 08

Toronto

#338 Jul 6, 2010
Alen wrote:
<quoted text>It does not say that code19 is the great miracle, does it? Quote correctly, please.
Ok Alen. Please enlighten us as to what GOD is referring to in 74:35. When GOD says "This is one of the great miracles", what is HE referring to, if not the miracle of the Quran associated directly with 19 which is mentioned directly before this clear statement? Tell me exactly which miracle GOD is referring to with this verse? Please. Enlighten me.
Alen

London, UK

#339 Jul 7, 2010
GODisONE wrote:
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Ok Alen. Please enlighten us as to what GOD is referring to in 74:35. When GOD says "This is one of the great miracles", what is HE referring to, if not the miracle of the Quran associated directly with 19 which is mentioned directly before this clear statement? Tell me exactly which miracle GOD is referring to with this verse? Please. Enlighten me.
I've been arguing and fighting with a dude on the free minds forum and I'll just tell you this: did those people in-between messenger Mohammad and Rashad follow tw two verses or not?
Because if they were, they're going to HellFire, right?

“The evidence is everywhere.”

Since: Nov 08

Toronto

#340 Jul 7, 2010
Alen wrote:
<quoted text>I've been arguing and fighting with a dude on the free minds forum and I'll just tell you this: did those people in-between messenger Mohammad and Rashad follow tw two verses or not?
Because if they were, they're going to HellFire, right?
What about the people between Abraham and Moses, between Moses and Jesus, between Jesus and Muhammad? Are they going to the hellfire because the Quran wasn't revealed yet? Why would people go to hell for not knowing Muhammadans put those 2 false verses in? Plus, those 2 verses do nothing but glorify Muhammad. How can you follow a glorification, unless you idolize Muhammad. I see signs all over the place saying 'Jesus is Lord'. I'm reading it, but I don't believe it. Does that mean I am idolizing Jesus? Am I condemned because of what some idol worshiper put in front of my eyes and I happened to read? No, of course not. We are held accountable only for ourselves. I'm surprised you would ask such a question. Believing that people are condemned between Muhammad and Rashad for the reasons you stated are no different than saying everybody prior to Muhammad is condemned. That is entirely illogical. You really need to re-think you position.

The requirements for salvation are very clear in the Quran: 1) Believe in GOD 2) Believe in the hereafter, 3) lead a righteous life. Leading a righteous life is defined for the followers of each scripture.

peace
Alen

London, UK

#341 Jul 7, 2010
GODisONE wrote:
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What about the people between Abraham and Moses, between Moses and Jesus, between Jesus and Muhammad? Are they going to the hellfire because the Quran wasn't revealed yet? Why would people go to hell for not knowing Muhammadans put those 2 false verses in? Plus, those 2 verses do nothing but glorify Muhammad. How can you follow a glorification, unless you idolize Muhammad. I see signs all over the place saying 'Jesus is Lord'. I'm reading it, but I don't believe it. Does that mean I am idolizing Jesus? Am I condemned because of what some idol worshiper put in front of my eyes and I happened to read? No, of course not. We are held accountable only for ourselves. I'm surprised you would ask such a question. Believing that people are condemned between Muhammad and Rashad for the reasons you stated are no different than saying everybody prior to Muhammad is condemned. That is entirely illogical. You really need to re-think you position.
The requirements for salvation are very clear in the Quran: 1) Believe in GOD 2) Believe in the hereafter, 3) lead a righteous life. Leading a righteous life is defined for the followers of each scripture.
peace
You're here too? Swell.
The thing is, bro, they BELIEVED in thsoe two verses, not only read them.
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#342 Jul 8, 2010
Alen wrote:
<quoted text>You're here too? Swell.
The thing is, bro, they BELIEVED in thsoe two verses, not only read them.
Salaams Alen. If you have not seen it yet,I left you a post on Rashad Khalifa( not the cons. mes) Cheers and later Raj
Guest

Dhaka, Bangladesh

#343 Aug 3, 2010
[33:7] Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.

The ayah clearly indicates that Allah has taken covenant from Muhammad also. Does that mean there was or will be someone after Muhammad?

“The evidence is everywhere.”

Since: Nov 08

Toronto

#344 Aug 3, 2010
Guest wrote:
[33:7] Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.
The ayah clearly indicates that Allah has taken covenant from Muhammad also. Does that mean there was or will be someone after Muhammad?
Yes. That is exactly what it means. This verse refers to the covenant taken in 3:81. In fact, if you count the number of times 'Allah'(GOD) is mentioned from the beginning of the Quran to that verse (33:7) the count is 1971. That is exact year this very covenant was fulfilled. Of course, majority of people reject this truth, but like GOD says, HE guides those who are sincere to the 'truth that is disputed by all others'. https://sites.google.com/site/evidenceofgod/m...

Peace & GOD Bless
khan

Japan

#345 Sep 4, 2010
Please read the context of 3:81 in the holy Quran. Seems you have vast knowledge about quran and bible, but that is out of premises in the quranic dialogs.

“The evidence is everywhere.”

Since: Nov 08

Toronto

#346 Sep 4, 2010
khan wrote:
Please read the context of 3:81 in the holy Quran. Seems you have vast knowledge about quran and bible, but that is out of premises in the quranic dialogs.
I have read the context of 3:81 in the Quran. It is very clear that it does not refer to prophet Muhammad.
Heho

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#347 Mar 9, 2011
bro I think tthat you don't have any thing to do , your evidences were pretty clear that Mohammed is a massenger and there is no contradition , I believe that you have a problem , check your faith !
Alen

Wallasey, UK

#348 Mar 9, 2011
submitmj wrote:
I know Mohammad is the last prophet, but if he is the last messenger, as most believe, why does the Quran (3:81, 33:7, 33:40) and the Bible (Malachi 3:1-21, Luke 17:22-36 & Matthew 24:27) speak of another messenger? A consolidating messenger who is to purify and unify GOD's messages that were delivered by all of GOD's prophets.
[33:40] Muhammad was not the father of any man among you. He was a messenger of GOD and the final prophet. GOD is fully aware of all things.
[33:7] Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.*
[3:81] GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, A MESSENGER WILL COME TO CONFIRM ALL EXISTING SCRIPTURES. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you." [3:82] Those who reject this (Quranic prophecy) are the evil ones.
As well, the Quran talks about in [40:34] how other communities believed their messenger was the last messenger but were wrong.
[40:34] Joseph had come to you before that with clear revelations, but you continued to doubt his message. Then, when he died you said, "GOD will not send any other messenger after him.(He was the last messenger)!"** GOD thus sends astray those who are transgressors, doubtful.
So, my question is why does everybody believe Mohammad is the last messenger when according to GOD he is not?
Peace
We're both aware that prophet Mohammed is the SEAL of the prophets, yes? He is also the messenger of Allah SWT and therefore, if and when God says that Mohammed is the seal of the prophets and every prophet is the messenger, that implies that he is also the seal of the messenger.
Besides, Qur'an confirms previous Scriptures and nothing new is to be added to the new Law so there is no need for another messenger, if there was, my question is this: what's the message?
Sikh Sword

Los Angeles, CA

#349 Mar 10, 2011
There is no such thing as the "last prophet". As long as there is pain, misery, suffering, and other negative conditions in this world, prophets will never stop coming. Prophet Muhammad's followers didn't change the world in a positive way. Any normal, sane, and logical person who knows Muslim history after his death would agree with me because if he is truly the "last prophet" overall, then his people would have established good peaceful kingdoms for all no matter what religion they belonged to, but instead they killed many non-Muslims all over the world in the name of their religion and forced them to convert to Islam. Non-Muslims today get persecuted way more in Muslim countries than Muslims do in non-Muslim countries. That is against Waheguru and Waheguru punishes the evil and wicked in the end, even if they are Muslims.

I don't know anything about Prophet Muhammad, but if Muslims consider him the last prophet, I'll respect that, but if I say I don't believe in the term "last prophet", don't get offended because I have my reasonings. Prophet Muhammad and Muslims didn't save my ancestors' life so obviously I love my Gurus since they saved us from forced conversion.

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