Quran says Mohammed not last messenger

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#287
Aug 13, 2009
 
Jesus Is wrote:
FIRSTLY These are not the words of God.
Who Killed More People in the Bible?

God vs Satan!

http://atheistnexus.org/photo/who-killed-more...

Action (Killing) Speaks Louder Than Words (Saying not to kill)!!!

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#288
Aug 13, 2009
 
Alen wrote:
<quoted text>On the free minds forum we have now opened a debate about the differences between a messenger and a prophet.
I have already seen the freeminds forum. It is really wacky. So much opinion and very little Quranic logic to back it up. For example, there are people there that actually believe that 'sacred masjid' is not a word in the Quran in order to justify not doing the Salat prayers. That is corrupting and twisting the words of Quran to justify NOT doing Quranic commandments. That is what the wicked do.

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Aug 14, 2009
 
GODisONE wrote:
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I have already seen the freeminds forum. It is really wacky. So much opinion and very little Quranic logic to back it up. For example, there are people there that actually believe that 'sacred masjid' is not a word in the Quran in order to justify not doing the Salat prayers. That is corrupting and twisting the words of Quran to justify NOT doing Quranic commandments. That is what the wicked do.
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Can you provide the link or Qurnaic evidence?
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#291
Jan 4, 2010
 
My reply to all the people who say or understand that Mohammed is not the last prophet. If you believe in our book quran, then pls accept quran & muhmammed till the time as per your understanding a new messenger is sent.
submitmj wrote:
I know Mohammad is the last prophet, but if he is the last messenger, as most believe, why does the Quran (3:81, 33:7, 33:40) and the Bible (Malachi 3:1-21, Luke 17:22-36 & Matthew 24:27) speak of another messenger? A consolidating messenger who is to purify and unify GOD's messages that were delivered by all of GOD's prophets.
[33:40] Muhammad was not the father of any man among you. He was a messenger of GOD and the final prophet. GOD is fully aware of all things.
[33:7] Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.*
[3:81] GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, A MESSENGER WILL COME TO CONFIRM ALL EXISTING SCRIPTURES. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you." [3:82] Those who reject this (Quranic prophecy) are the evil ones.
As well, the Quran talks about in [40:34] how other communities believed their messenger was the last messenger but were wrong.
[40:34] Joseph had come to you before that with clear revelations, but you continued to doubt his message. Then, when he died you said, "GOD will not send any other messenger after him.(He was the last messenger)!"** GOD thus sends astray those who are transgressors, doubtful.
So, my question is why does everybody believe Mohammad is the last messenger when according to GOD he is not?
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#292
Jan 4, 2010
 
Ayaz Khan wrote:
My reply to all the people who say or understand that Mohammed is not the last prophet. If you believe in our book quran, then pls accept quran & muhmammed till the time as per your understanding a new messenger is sent.
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Mr. Khan,

All I can tell is that my morals are superior to Allah's. I say this I do not adhere to the hate & bigotry that is preached in the Koran. In conclusion, Allah is not moral, I am.

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Jan 5, 2010
 

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Mr. Khan,
All I can tell is that my morals are superior to Allah's. I say this I do not adhere to the hate & bigotry that is preached in the Koran. In conclusion, Allah is not moral, I am.
Your ignorance of the Quran is immense, and your arrogance prevents you from even studying the Quran.

Arrogance + Ignorance = Egotistical mindset

Your blindness is a result of your own egotistical shortcomings. Just because you reject the GOD and His scriptures, doesn't mean you are correct. Although, your ego makes you believe that you are. Hence, your works are adorned in your eyes.
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#294
Jan 6, 2010
 
"In addition to our sufferings from the kingdom of Edom (Rome), do we also have to suffer from the Ishmaelites?

To which Metatron answered: Fear not son of man, for the Holy One, blessed be He, establishes the kingdom of Ishmael to save you from this wicked one (Edomites).

And He will place over them a PROPHET after His own Will, who shall conquer the land and afterwards return it to Israel"

(Nistaroth of Rabbi Shimon ben Yohai)

Rabbi Shimon ben Yohai lived in the 2nd century.
Metatron was the angel who guided Enoch through heaven.
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#295
Feb 27, 2010
 
Quran says Mohammed is The last messenger
GOD IS ONE

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#296
Feb 27, 2010
 
yes Quran says Mohammed is The last messenger

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#297
Feb 27, 2010
 
prophets are speakers of the truth

how many prophecies have come to pass that mohammad spoke, were the prophecies vague so the interpretation could be anything?

there is only one God, the God of Abraham, Issac & Jacob. His blood is royal blood, not from man but from God himself, He over shadowed Mary & made Himself a body, in human form so He could provide HIMSELF a sacrifice, as He told Abraham He would do when Abraham was going to take Issacs life

he did just that, provide Himself a sacrifice, the Lamb slain before the foundations of the world. God and man, able to feel the sufferings of man.

Jesus is the true and LIVING God, all others are only imaginations created in mens minds....

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#298
Feb 27, 2010
 
yes, the Quran says he is the last messenger, because that is what Mohammed wanted it to say, he was afraid that if his followers found out he was a fake, they would know he was a liar...
Mohammed...was not the last messenger...there is much doubt if he were even a messenger at all...his messages were totally different than the messeges that God has sent with all the previous messengers.
Mohammed, was a false prophet, he was a thief and a plundering bandit.
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#299
Feb 27, 2010
 
GODisONE wrote:
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Your ignorance of the Quran is immense, and your arrogance prevents you from even studying the Quran.
Arrogance + Ignorance = Egotistical mindset
Your blindness is a result of your own egotistical shortcomings. Just because you reject the GOD and His scriptures, doesn't mean you are correct. Although, your ego makes you believe that you are. Hence, your works are adorned in your eyes.
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Atheists believe in nothing but themselves.
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Mar 1, 2010
 
submitmj wrote:
I know Mohammad is the last prophet, but if he is the last messenger, as most believe, why does the Quran (3:81, 33:7, 33:40) and the Bible (Malachi 3:1-21, Luke 17:22-36 & Matthew 24:27) speak of another messenger? A consolidating messenger who is to purify and unify GOD's messages that were delivered by all of GOD's prophets.
[33:40] Muhammad was not the father of any man among you. He was a messenger of GOD and the final prophet. GOD is fully aware of all things.
[33:7] Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.*
[3:81] GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, A MESSENGER WILL COME TO CONFIRM ALL EXISTING SCRIPTURES. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you." [3:82] Those who reject this (Quranic prophecy) are the evil ones.
As well, the Quran talks about in [40:34] how other communities believed their messenger was the last messenger but were wrong.
[40:34] Joseph had come to you before that with clear revelations, but you continued to doubt his message. Then, when he died you said, "GOD will not send any other messenger after him.(He was the last messenger)!"** GOD thus sends astray those who are transgressors, doubtful.
So, my question is why does everybody believe Mohammad is the last messenger when according to GOD he is not?
Peace
Salaams submitmj! See Imam Rashad Khalifa(pbuh)He is the consoldating and purifying messenger who has brought the Holy Qur-an back to its pristine purity!And there may be more to come! ALLAH is not finished with us yet! Maxa-Salaama
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#301
Mar 2, 2010
 
GODisONE wrote:
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Your ignorance of the Quran is immense, and your arrogance prevents you from even studying the Quran.
Arrogance + Ignorance = Egotistical mindset
Your blindness is a result of your own egotistical shortcomings. Just because you reject the GOD and His scriptures, doesn't mean you are correct. Although, your ego makes you believe that you are. Hence, your works are adorned in your eyes.
Studying the Koran is what contributed most to my apostacy. When I read the Koran, I notice that Mohammad alter ego Allah hates the polytheists with a passion, curses the Jews, not a big fan of Christians & only willing to accept Islam. Such a deity is unworthy of respect because his decrees inspires animosity and xenophobia. This deity judges people by their beliefs and not their deeds & should be shunned.
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#302
Mar 2, 2010
 
submitmj wrote:
I know Mohammad is the last prophet, but if he is the last messenger, as most believe, why does the Quran (3:81, 33:7, 33:40) and the Bible (Malachi 3:1-21, Luke 17:22-36 & Matthew 24:27) speak of another messenger? A consolidating messenger who is to purify and unify GOD's messages that were delivered by all of GOD's prophets.
[33:40] Muhammad was not the father of any man among you. He was a messenger of GOD and the final prophet. GOD is fully aware of all things.
[33:7] Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.*
[3:81] GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, A MESSENGER WILL COME TO CONFIRM ALL EXISTING SCRIPTURES. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you." [3:82] Those who reject this (Quranic prophecy) are the evil ones.
As well, the Quran talks about in [40:34] how other communities believed their messenger was the last messenger but were wrong.
[40:34] Joseph had come to you before that with clear revelations, but you continued to doubt his message. Then, when he died you said, "GOD will not send any other messenger after him.(He was the last messenger)!"** GOD thus sends astray those who are transgressors, doubtful.
So, my question is why does everybody believe Mohammad is the last messenger when according to GOD he is not?
Peace
The Quran is The Last Message so therefore read chapter 5, verse 3.

Okay?

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<quoted text>The Quran is The Last Message so therefore read chapter 5, verse 3.
Okay?
Quran is the last scripture. Hence, Prophet Muhammad was the last prophet. 3:81 states very, very clearly that a messenger will come to confirm, NOT reveal, what has already been given to the prophet. A clear distinction is made between prophets and messenger in the very same verse. Prophets are scripture-bearing messengers, and messengers confirm scriptures. Thus, every prophet is a messenger, but not every messenger is a prophet.

You believe what you believe, I'll believe what I believe. We will all find out the truth on the day of Judgment.

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#304
Mar 26, 2010
 
Praise to God that there are others who really READ the Quaran for what it is.

Indeed Submitmj, We will laugh at the disbelievers when the messenger comes, for the world at such a troubling time not to have one, to save ITS OWN BELIEVERS, would be a travesty.
AND WATCH HOW YOU CHERISH IMAMS, for god has said that to associate no one, and many many modern day muslims are guilty of this, indeed.
Praise to Allah, lord of worlds
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#305
Mar 26, 2010
 
Submitmj-you are right.True Muslims are waiting for the one final prophet- Prophet Mehdi. Sunni Muslims hide this Qur'an verse,and give different interpritation.

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Mohammad was no prophet so this conversation is a waste of time. The guy was an sand pirate who suffered from schizophrenia.
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#308
Mar 27, 2010
 
Syed Ameer wrote:
Submitmj-you are right.True Muslims are waiting for the one final prophet- Prophet Mehdi. Sunni Muslims hide this Qur'an verse,and give different interpritation.
Mehdi and Paul both are not Prophets or Apostles of God.

There is no male God / human God but God appoints only male prophets.

Peace and blessings to the true prophets of God, Jesus a.s. and Muhammad saw.

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