“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#21 May 29, 2010
Isreality wrote:
1310 Abu Bakri (Abu Bakar), a Muslim king of the Malian Empire, spearheads a series of sea voyages to the New World.
1312 Mandinga, African Muslims, from Mali and other parts of West Africa arrive in the Gulf of Mexico for exploration of America's interior using the Mississippi River as their access rout.
1527 A Muslim from Morocco by the name of Estevanico of Azamor lands in Florida with the expedition of Panfilo de Narveaz and remains in America to become the first of three Americans to cross the continent in 1539.
http://www.dawanet.com/history/amermuslimhist...
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By 1312, Mansa Musa’s brother Sultan Abu Bakri II of Mali made his second expedition on the Atlantic ocean. In 1324 on his famous journey to Hajj, Mansa Musa reported in Cairo that his brother had left him in charge of Mali. Anthropologists have proven that the Mandinkas under Abu Bakri explored many parts of North America via the Mississippi and other river systems. At Four Corners, Arizona writings show that they even brought elephants from Africa to the area.
http://www.bookofsigns.org/2009/04/a-history-...
Since none of these predate the Norse landings in North America they are just moot points.
bmz

La Jolla, CA

#22 May 29, 2010
The Ainu will dispute these bastard Muslims. So can the people of Kamchatka.

Cherrio
BMZ

Since: May 08

Germany

#23 May 30, 2010
Thunder-Girl wrote:
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True the Vikings were here first. What the Pittsfield MA, UNIBOMBER is actually trying to imply is that the USA should follow islam. I know one thing for sure, Mohammad would not have stood a chance against the Vikings!LOL!!! Immagine Vikings stealing and enslaving all of mohammad's wives! Allah would have been scared too and ran back to the sand dunes!LOL!!!
In the United States the oldest human remains were dated about 16,000 years ago. Their are speculations of other findings, dating back 30,000. Not sure whether the latter have been confirmed.

I assume they were all Muslims;)
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#24 May 30, 2010
Yes, Lakshmi, dontcha know, everybody was originally a muslim.

The Russians used to do this too. Russians invented and discovered everything. What a bore.

It's an attempt to discredit everybody else, yr typical tribal "we are the greatest and only" thinking.

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#25 May 30, 2010
Isreality wrote:
Ha HA go away trolls....
You can't debunk historical facts
Why would anyone who had been there NOT stay? I like Arabia, but its a lot easier to grow food in the US:) Did they anticipate the oil strikes of the 20th century?
Isreality

Albany, NY

#26 May 30, 2010
madscot wrote:
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The Sung Document is a work of a Chinese author circa 1178, during the Song Dynasty. It states that Muslim sailors reached a region called "Mu-Lan-Pi", which has been claimed to be some part of the Americas (specifically, present-day California.)
If the document is authentic, and furthermore if the identification of Mu-Lan-Pi with America is correct, then it is one of the earliest records of pre-Columbian trans-oceanic travel from the Eurasian continent to the Americas. However both the authenticity of the Sung Document and the identification of Mu-Lan-Pi with America are doubtful
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sung_Document
Y/w...
"If the document is authentic, and furthermore if the identification of Mu-Lan-Pi with America is correct, then it is one of the earliest records of pre-Columbian trans-oceanic travel from the Eurasian continent to the Americas. However both the authenticity of the Sung Document and the identification of Mu-Lan-Pi with America are doubtful."

"If it's correct" tells me they haven't disproved it, only that there is doubt.
Still my reason for posting this is that all of the airheads say, Muslims moved to America recently, when in fact they were already there, before most of the other peoples ancestors, crying on this forum.

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#27 May 30, 2010
Doesn't matter who found it first, the native Americans settled it and Europeans found it eventually and they had the sense to stick around-for better or worse. Too late to call dibs:)
crimes4allah

Saint Robert, MO

#28 May 30, 2010
Did Muslims discover America?
No. Of course they didn’t. How can I be so sure? Because no respected historian has ever written anything to suggest that they did. Good enough?

Not for some. Worryingly - amazingly - one of those who thinks Muslims did discover America before Columbus works for the New York State Department. For their Education Body. Imam Al-Hajj Talib ‘Abdur-Rashid believes that, contrary to the opinions of all other serious historians, Muslims came to America over 600 years before Columbus. Take it away, Imam…
http://counterknowledge.com/2007/10/did-musli...

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Islam means violence.
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#29 May 30, 2010
crimes4allah wrote:
Did Muslims discover America?
No. Of course they didn’t. How can I be so sure? Because no respected historian has ever written anything to suggest that they did. Good enough?
Not for some. Worryingly - amazingly - one of those who thinks Muslims did discover America before Columbus works for the New York State Department. For their Education Body. Imam Al-Hajj Talib ‘Abdur-Rashid believes that, contrary to the opinions of all other serious historians, Muslims came to America over 600 years before Columbus. Take it away, Imam…
Islam means violence.
I'm not that amazed. Muslims assume a priviledge of lying to themselves and everybody else. They sent out silly junk science things, why not junk history, too?

Invaders of the americas were driven away by the natives. There was also the fall of an ice age during the vikings.

The Americas were successfully invaded for the same reason the moors were finally driven out of Spain. Ordnance. Firearms. Cannon.
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#30 May 30, 2010
I'm surprised Pittsfield didn't claim Columbus himself as a muslim. He was an Italian, and weren't there some muslims in Italy? Didn't his great grandmother have an arab name? So it goes.

Lincoln was a secret muslim, too. Just look at those features. And how about all those Sicilian mafia types. The muslims ruled Sicily for a while.(They were thrown out). Al Capone, doesn't that sound arabic?

Muslims are eventually thrown out of the places they invade because they are too obnoxious to put up with.
Isreality

Albany, NY

#31 May 30, 2010
JeanD_NW wrote:
Doesn't matter who found it first, the native Americans settled it and Europeans found it eventually and they had the sense to stick around-for better or worse. Too late to call dibs:)
You make them sound so civil...

"Europeans found it eventually and they had the sense to stick around"
Stuck around to...
And massacre the natives to take their land, the same as the Europeans are doing in Palestine.

Maybe you should experience this at your home. Let you and your family get massacred for your property rites.

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#32 May 30, 2010
Isreality wrote:
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You make them sound so civil...
"Europeans found it eventually and they had the sense to stick around"
Stuck around to...
And massacre the natives to take their land, the same as the Europeans are doing in Palestine.
Maybe you should experience this at your home. Let you and your family get massacred for your property rites.
If my response seems flippant in view of the native Americans, I'm sorry, that was not the intent. My grandmother's mom was full blood Modoc and I do have a concept of what went on-and only 130 years ago or so. Stories are still told in our own family.

My comment was just to the effect that whoever found the Americas and didn't do anything about it doesn't really matter at this juncture, does it? That ship has sailed (no pun intended).
no more stone age

Vancouver, Canada

#33 May 30, 2010
Isreality wrote:
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You make them sound so civil...
"Europeans found it eventually and they had the sense to stick around"
Stuck around to...
And massacre the natives to take their land, the same as the Europeans are doing in Palestine.
Maybe you should experience this at your home. Let you and your family get massacred for your property rites.
isn't that what turks did for centuries in asia minor?
again, you are not very bright, istupidity.

“Darwin died for your sins”

Since: Aug 08

Nunya

#34 May 30, 2010
Isreality wrote:
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Y/w...
"If the document is authentic, and furthermore if the identification of Mu-Lan-Pi with America is correct, then it is one of the earliest records of pre-Columbian trans-oceanic travel from the Eurasian continent to the Americas. However both the authenticity of the Sung Document and the identification of Mu-Lan-Pi with America are doubtful."
"If it's correct" tells me they haven't disproved it, only that there is doubt.
Still my reason for posting this is that all of the airheads say, Muslims moved to America recently, when in fact they were already there, before most of the other peoples ancestors, crying on this forum.
So are you saying that muslims inhabited North America in great numbers? Or just one or two here and there?
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#35 May 31, 2010
Pittsfield is trying to assert a muslim territorial claim on America so muslims can start chopping it up and murdering the kuffar inhabitants at random because they "own" it.

Then the imams and bystander type of muslims can all say tsk, tsk this is horrible. This is not the true Islam.

Similar to what they do in Russia, Thailand, Phillipines.

“PROUD INFIDEL”

Since: Nov 08

The Crusades got it right!

#36 May 31, 2010
Don't you all know the world belongs to allah? LOL!
Isreality

Albany, NY

#37 May 31, 2010
more truth wrote:
Pittsfield is trying to assert a muslim territorial claim on America so muslims can start chopping it up and murdering the kuffar inhabitants at random because they "own" it.
Then the imams and bystander type of muslims can all say tsk, tsk this is horrible. This is not the true Islam.
Similar to what they do in Russia, Thailand, Phillipines.
The Europeans have already done this...

http://www.americanwest.com/pages/indians.htm

http://www.google.com/search...

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/T5D...

http://www.google.com/images... :
Isreality

Albany, NY

#39 May 31, 2010
Thunder-Girl wrote:
Don't you all know the world belongs to allah? LOL!
With your powers you should own it..
Jules UK

UK

#38 May 31, 2010
Lakshmi72 wrote:
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In the United States the oldest human remains were dated about 16,000 years ago. Their are speculations of other findings, dating back 30,000. Not sure whether the latter have been confirmed.
I assume they were all Muslims;)
One way to held determine to potential faith of these ancient remains is which way they were aligned. If it was North - South, then they were clearly Scandanavian or Roman. If they were East - West, then they were obviously Christian or Islamic. If they were somewhere in between, it cvlearly indicates that the remains are of an individual who was having a crisis of faith. Possibly a lapsed Muslim or a wayward Viking. An analysis of the stomache contents must be done. If there is the slightest trace of a pork product, then it must be a Viking.
atlas

United States

#41 May 31, 2010
Isreality wrote:
1) The Navigator of Columbus, who during the famous voyage, brought along a copy of a travel narrative written by Portuguese Muslims who had sailed to the New World in the 12th century. The narrative by al-Idrisi was called "The Sea of Tears
http://www.sunnah.org/history/islamamr.htm
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AMERICAN MUSLIM HISTORY
A chronological summary of some of the major events I found in relation of the Muslims' personal and political life in American history.
1178 A Chinese document known as the Sung Document records the voyage of Muslim sailors to a land known as Mu-Lan-pi (America).
1310 Abu Bakri (Abu Bakar), a Muslim king of the Malian Empire, spearheads a series of sea voyages to the New World.
1312 Mandinga, African Muslims, from Mali and other parts of West Africa arrive in the Gulf of Mexico for exploration of America's interior using the Mississippi River as their access rout.
1527 A Muslim from Morocco by the name of Estevanico of Azamor lands in Florida with the expedition of Panfilo de Narveaz and remains in America to become the first of three Americans to cross the continent in 1539.
http://www.dawanet.com/history/amermuslimhist...
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By 1312, Mansa Musa’s brother Sultan Abu Bakri II of Mali made his second expedition on the Atlantic ocean. In 1324 on his famous journey to Hajj, Mansa Musa reported in Cairo that his brother had left him in charge of Mali. Anthropologists have proven that the Mandinkas under Abu Bakri explored many parts of North America via the Mississippi and other river systems. At Four Corners, Arizona writings show that they even brought elephants from Africa to the area.
http://www.bookofsigns.org/2009/04/a-history-...
Oh HERE we go!

Rewrite history, trying to bullshit people that Muslims were here first, and you have taken the first step in claiming that North America is really Muslim land!

Then the fighting begins, as it is in Gaza and the West Bank.

Shove it, pal. This land is NOT Muslim.

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