jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#129 Mar 29, 2013
NOW PROVE TO ME THAT MO WAS A TRUE PROPHET OF GOD!
What prophet had to force people to call him a prophet or killed them?

Why didn't Allah send a replacment to the dinner where Muhammed ate poison?

Why did the lamb 'Speak' to Muhammed and tell him it was poisoned AFTER HE'D TASTED IT?

Since: Apr 11

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#130 Mar 30, 2013
ana wrote:
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Go and read if you can read Greek the oldest version of the bible, there are many biblical texts which show throughout the ages that the bible was amended to suit political movements at the time, gospels were argued over there is evidence of this and many highly regarded theologises have discovered many improvisations when comparing biblical texts, for example the modern bible read in the uk is differing to that in Italy written in Italian that is just one example
This is the main reason I am not a Christian, the source isn't valid enough, too many sketchy contradictions, but I believe in Jesus peace be upon him; and I believe he was a prophet peace be upon him
In ancient biblical texts Jesus does not refer to himself as god or the son of god, but a messenger from god.... These texts were discounted from the modern day bible which has evidently been amended over and over
The Bible is the same as it was in the beginning.
You are a wolf in sheep clothing.
Your testimony against Gods Holy Bible is a fraud.
You shame your self Muslim.
jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#131 Mar 30, 2013
WAS THE BIBLE CORRUPTED?

If the Bible was corrupted by the Jews after Jesus, why did the Christians not protest this change in scripture? And if it was the Christians corrupting the Bible, why did the Jews not protest? And if the Jews and Christians got together to change the Bible, why is there no record of this event?

The fact is, even the Qur’an makes no mention of changes in the Bible. All the Qur’an says is that the Jews and Christians didn’t obey what was written in their own scripture. It would be unreasonable for the Qur’an to say the Jews and Christians were not following their “corrupt” scriptures.

Since the Bible could not have been corrupted before or after Jesus, this Muslim claim is not true.
jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#132 Mar 30, 2013
IF THE GOSPELS WERE CORRUPTED?....

Why did no eyewitness or close relative-of complain???????

WHY DIDN'T ALLAH FORCE SOMEONE TO ARGUE??????
jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#133 Mar 30, 2013
ARE YOU EVER GOING TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS???????

WHEN WERE THE GOSPELS CORRUPTED?
I'm not talking about spelling errors and minor differences that are the result of many translators using different languages, that couldn't have been deliberate because of all the other manuscripts circulating;

I'm asking who had the means and money to collect all of the biblical writings that existed in the world, rewrite entire chapters to make their bit fit, and then hand them back to the original owner without being noticed?
Polo

London, UK

#134 Mar 30, 2013
Fat Jack wrote:
Yep. Christians refuse to listen to Jesus in his own words from their own holy book and instead follow the teachings of Saul of Tarsus, who never met Jesus. And Saul never mentioned the word trinity. That came about 3 centuries later.
Very true well done.
And do not follow (blindly) any information of which you have no (direct) knowledge.(Using your faculties of perception and conception,ONE must verify it for HIMSELF.
Polo

London, UK

#135 Mar 30, 2013
Hi Shamma
THE CATHOLIC BIBLE
The Roman Catholic Bible was published at Rheims in 1582, is the oldest Version that one can still buy today. Despite its antiquity, the whole of the Protestant world, including the "cults"* condemn the RCV because it contains seven extra "books" which they contemptuously refer to as the "apocrypha" i.e. of DOUBTFUL AUTHORITY. Notwithstanding the dire warning contained in the Apocalypse, which is the last book in the RCV (renamed as "Revelation" by the Protestants), it is "revealed":
"... IF ANY MAN SHALL ADD TO THESE THINGS (OR DELETE) GOD SHALL ADD UNTO HIM THE PLAGUES WRITTEN IN THIS BOOK."
(Revelation 22:18-19)
But who cares! They do not really believe! The Protestants have bravely EXPUNGED SEVEN WHOLE BOOKS from their Book of God! The outcasts are:
The Book of Judith
The Book of Tobias
The Book of Baruch
The Buck of Esther, etc.
THE PROTESTANT BIBLE
"THE AUTHORISED VERSION OF THE BIBLE WAS PUBLISHED IN 1611 BY THE WILL AND COMMAND OF HIS MAJESTY KING JAMES THE 1ST WHOSE NAME IT BEARS TILL TODAY."
The Roman Catholics, believing as they do that THE PROTESTANTS HAVE MUTILATED THE BOOK OF GOD, are yet aiding and abetting the Protestant "crime" by forcing their native converts to purchase the Authorised Version (AV) of the Bible, which is the only Bible available in some 1500 languages of the lesser developed nations of the world. The Roman Catholics milk their cows, but the feeding is left to the Protestants! The overwhelming majority of Christians — both Catholics and Protestant — use the Authorised (AV) or the King James Version (KJV) as it is alternatively called.
GLOWING TRIBUTES
First published, in 1611, and then REVISED in 1881 (RV), and now RE-REVISED and brought up to date as the Revised Standard Version (RSV) 1952, and now AGAIN RE-RE-REVISED IN 1971 (still RSV for short). Let us see what opinion Christendom has of this most revised Bible, the RSV:-
1. "THE FINEST VERSION WHICH HAS BEEN PRODUCED IN THE PRESENT CENTURY." —(Church of England Newspaper)
2. "A COMPLETELY FRESH TRANSLATION BY SCHOLARS OF THE HIGHEST EMINENCE." —(Times literary Supplement)
3. "THE WELL-LOVED CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AUTHORISED VERSION COMBINED WITH A NEW ACCURACY OF TRANSLATION." —(Life and Work)
4. "THE MOST ACCURATE AND CLOSE RENDERING OF THE ORIGINAL" —(The Times)
"THE WORLD'S BEST SELLER"
But what about the Authorised Version of the Bible (AV), the "World's Best Seller?" These Revisers, all good salesmen, have some very pretty things to say about it. However, their page iii, paragraph six of the PREFACE of the RSV reads;
"THE KING JAMES VERSION (alternative description of AV) HAS WITH GOOD REASON BEEN TERMED 'THE NOBLEST MONUMENT OF ENGLISH PROSE.’ ITS REVISERS IN 1881 EXPRESSED ADMIRATION FOR 'ITS SIMPLICITY, ITS DIGNITY, ITS POWER, ITS HAPPY TURNS OF EXPRESSION ... THE MUSIC OF ITS CADENCES, AND THE FELICITIES OF ITS RHYTHM.’ IT ENTERED, AS NO OTHER BOOK HAS, INTO THE MAKING OF THE PERSONAL CHARACTER AND THE PUBLIC INSTITUTIONS OF THE ENGLISH-SPEAKING PEOPLES. WE OWE TO IT AN INCALCULABLE DEBT."
Can you, imagine a more magnificent tribute being paid to the "Book of Books" than the above? I, for one, cannot. Let the believing Christian, now steel himself for the un-kindest blow of all from his own beloved Lawyers of Religion; for in the very same breath they say:
"YET THE KING JAMES VERSION HAS GRAVE DEFECTS." And, "THAT THESE DEFECTS ARE SO MANY AND SO SERIOUS AS TO CALL FOR REVISION ..."(R S V 1971) This is straight from the horse's mouth, i.e. the orthodox Christian scholars of "the highest eminence." Another galaxy of Doctors of Divinity are now required to produce an encyclopaedia explaining the cause of those GRAVE AND SERIOUS DEFECTS in their Holy Writ and their reasons for eliminating them.
Polo

London, UK

#136 Mar 30, 2013
jesus is wrote:
NOW PROVE TO ME THAT MO WAS A TRUE PROPHET OF GOD!
What prophet had to force people to call him a prophet or killed them?
Why didn't Allah send a replacment to the dinner where Muhammed ate poison?
Why did the lamb 'Speak' to Muhammed and tell him it was poisoned AFTER HE'D TASTED IT?
Please let me tell you one thing read the Quran it will answer all your questions.
The Quran says: AND REMEMBER THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION TRUTH STANDS OUT CLEAR FROM ERROR.

"Indeed in the Messenger of God you have a good example to follow for him who hopes for (the Meeting with) God and the Last Day, and remembers God much." (Quran 33:21).

God created all people to worship Him and to live life based on His teachings and guidance. "And hold fast, all together, by the Rope which God (stretches out for you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude God's favour on you; for you were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, you became brethren; and you were on the brink of the pit of Fire, and He saved you from it.Thus doth God make His Signs clear to you that you may be guided." (Quran 3:103).

"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to God), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost." (Quran 3:85).

O seeker of truth, if you really seek the truth put aside all preconceived notions, and open your heart….do not let others judge or make a decision for you.

And do not follow (blindly) any information of which you have no (direct) knowledge.(Using your faculties of perception and conception, you must verify it for yourself.(In the Court of your Lord,) you will be held accountable for your hearing, sight, and the faculty of reasoning. " (Quran17:36)

And (remember) when Allâh will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men:'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allâh?'
" He will say: "Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner¬self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All¬ Knower of all that is hidden and unseen.(Quran 5:116).

People should not worship any of God's creation, including Jesus and Mary.
We must not assign any of God's creation His divine attributes and characteristics. "He is God the Creator, the Maker, the Shaper. To Him belong the Names Most Beautiful. All that is in the heavens and the earth magnifies Him; He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise." (Qur'an 59:24).
Although God can do all things, He only does things that are consistent with His fundamental nature. Begetting a son is not consistent with God's magnificent nature (Quran 19:92, Quran 19:35).
Consistent with His fundamental nature is forgiveness. Although Adam and Eve could no longer live in the Paradise, God forgave Adam and Eve for their sin after they sincerely repented (Quran 2:35-37).
We are responsible for our own deeds and will not be punished for the deeds of another person (Quran 53:38-42).

Pray to Allah, God,Dieu,Dios etc. by whatever name you know Him.
Pray to your Creator, the Creator of the universe and everything in-between with sincerity ask Him to guide you in your heart and in your mind to the religion of Truth and to make you pleased with it and you will find if you are sincere He will answer your Prayer and you will find the religion of truth enters your heart.

Please read with an open mind the quran online click on the website below.Read chapter 3 and chapter 19 on MARY and JESUS
http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/
Polo

London, UK

#137 Mar 30, 2013
jesus is wrote:
NOW PROVE TO ME THAT MO WAS A TRUE PROPHET OF GOD!
What prophet had to force people to call him a prophet or killed them?
Why didn't Allah send a replacment to the dinner where Muhammed ate poison?
Why did the lamb 'Speak' to Muhammed and tell him it was poisoned AFTER HE'D TASTED IT?
"Thank you for asking me about my religion"
Islam is based on two very important principles: 1st - Truth. We cannot lie, if we do we might go to Hell forever; and 2nd - Proof. Everything about Islam is preserved and can easily be found to verify what ever is being said about Islam. The Quran still exists in the original language (Arabic) and all of the teachings of Muhammad, peace be upon him, are not only preserved, but also categorized as to levels of authenticity - something never done before the advent of Islam." "As Muslims, we cannot lie about anything, especially about our religion."
"This what Islam is really all about. The most important subject is the worship of Almighty God, without any partners or associates or "gods" besides Almighty God."
(There is none worthy to be worshipped except the One Almighty God and Muhammad is the last messenger and prophet of Almighty God).
"Verily, deeds are rewarded by intention. And everyone will have the reward for that which he has intended."
[A saying of the Holy Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him - Sahih Al-Bukhari Vol. 1 #1]

Sincere intention is the key to the success or failure of the Muslim. All that he or she does must be for the sake of Allah and not for the chance to show off or call attention to himself or herself. If there is even a speck of pride or showing off for the people instead of doing for Allah, then the whole of the matter will be rejected by Allah on the Day of Judgment. This is due to the fact that Allah wants purity of intention and purity in deed.

I have sent you some interesting website where you can find out for your self.and I pray to Allah to guide you to the truth

http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/
Guide to Understanding Islam
http://www.tubeislam.com/video/11563/-The-Sta...
http://www.thetruereligion.org/amazing.htm
http://www.tubeislam.com/video/11518/The-Big-...
Guide us tv
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/islam.asp
Polo

London, UK

#138 Mar 30, 2013
jesus is wrote:
ARE YOU EVER GOING TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS???????
WHEN WERE THE GOSPELS CORRUPTED?
I'm not talking about spelling errors and minor differences that are the result of many translators using different languages, that couldn't have been deliberate because of all the other manuscripts circulating;
I'm asking who had the means and money to collect all of the biblical writings that existed in the world, rewrite entire chapters to make their bit fit, and then hand them back to the original owner without being noticed?
First and foremost, let me be perfectly clear on the position of Muslims regarding the authenticity of the Holy Bible. It is a condition of faith for believers to believe in all of God's Books and scripture as stipulated by the Quran, the Last and Final Testament from Almighty God to mankind, that the previous scriptures, including of course the Old Testament (Arabic = Torah), the Psalms (Arabic = Zabur) and the New Testament (Arabic = Injeel) were all from Almighty God (Arabic = Allah) in their original form. The beginning verses of the Quran clearly spell out the position of the 'Believer' with regard to these scriptures. As the translation from Arabic may be rendered regarding the conditions of believers:

"And they (believers) believe in what is being sent down to you (Muhammad, peace be upon him) and they believe in what has been sent down before (previous Holy scriptures to Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, and of course Jesus, peace be upon them all)." [Quran 2:2,3]

Therefore, it must be established that Muslims do accept that Almighty Allah did send down many Holy Books and he did allow the people to alter, change, delete and make additions to these Books, and as such, they can not longer be considered as the "Word of God" in their present condition. This is something immediately agreed upon by all qualified Biblical scholars.

Incidentally, there is sufficient evidence in the Quran to prove the remainder of the Bible still contains many of the original teachings and sayings of the prophets to whom the various scriptures were revealed.

From the previous chapter we can easily determine that the original source of the Bible, both the Old and New Testaments have been lost and are no longer extant in any language. What has remained and been referred to for translations, is in fact nothing more than old copies that do not necessarily agree with each other and there does exist in them obvious corruption in additions and deletions. Additionally, they are not complete and do not have full agreement of the scholars of the Bible as to their meanings.

VERSES THAT CONTRADICT THEMSELVES

Genesis 6:3 and Genesis 11:11 - Life limited to 120 years?
Genesis 32:30 and Exodus 33:20 - Jacob's life was preserved?
Exodus 4:22 and Jeremiah 31:9 - Who was God's firstborn?
Numbers 23:19 and Genesis 6:6-7 - Does God repent or not?
2 Samuel 6:23 and 2 Samuel 21:8 - Did Michael have children?
2 Samuel 8:4 and 1 Chronicles 18:4 - 700 or 7000 horsemen?
2 Samuel 8:9-10 and 1 Chronicles 18:9-10 - Toi or Tou? Hadadezer or Hadarezer? Joram or Hadoram?
2 Samuel 10:18 and 1 Chronicles 19:18 - 700 or 7000 charioteers? 40,000 horsemen or footmen? Captain's name?
2 Samuel 24:1 and 1 Chronicles 21:1 - Who provoked David?
2 Samuel 24:9 and 1 Chronicles 21:5 - 800,000 or 100,000?
2 Samuel 24:13 and 1 Chronicles 21:11-12 - 7 or 3 years?
1 Kings 4:26 and 2 Chronicles 9:25 - 40,000 or 4,000 stalls?
1 Kings 5:15-16 and 2 Chronicles 2:2 - 3300 or 3600?
1 Kings 7:26 and 2 Chronicles 4:5 - 2000 or 3000 baths?
2 Kings 8:26 and 2 Chronicles 22:2 - 22 or 42 years old?
2 Kings 24:8 and 2 Chronicles 36:9 - 18 or 8 years old? 3 months or 3 months and 10 days?
To be Continued
Sanjay

Aurora, Canada

#139 Mar 30, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
Jesus not God.....nor son of God
Christian logic = cancel your mind and blindly live the lie
Who the fk you are to say that silly man?I say your allah is just an invention of sex crazy mohamed. What do you say for this?
Polo

London, UK

#140 Mar 30, 2013
jesus is wrote:
ARE YOU EVER GOING TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS???????
WHEN WERE THE GOSPELS CORRUPTED?
I'm not talking about spelling errors and minor differences that are the result of many translators using different languages, that couldn't have been deliberate because of all the other manuscripts circulating;
I'm asking who had the means and money to collect all of the biblical writings that existed in the world, rewrite entire chapters to make their bit fit, and then hand them back to the original owner without being noticed?
Cont.
2 Kings 24:8 and 2 Chronicles 36:9 - 18 or 8 years old? 3 months or 3 months and 10 days?3 months and 10 days?
Ezra 2:65 and Nehemiah 7:67 - 200 or 245 singers?
Matthew 1:12 and Luke 3:27 - Who was Salathiel's father?
Matthew 1:16 and Luke 3:23 - Who was Joseph's father?
Matthew 9:18 and Mark 5:22-23 - Dead or not?
Matthew 10:5-10 and Mark 6:7-8 - Bring a staff or not?
Matthew 15:21-22 and Mark 7:24-26 - The woman was of Canaan or Greece?
Matthew 20:29-30 and Mark 10:46-47 - One or two beggars?
Matthew 21:1-2 and Mark 11:1-2 - What happened to the ass?
Matthew 26:74-75 and Mark 14:72 - Before the cock crow once or twice?
Matthew 27:5 and Acts 1:18 - How did Judas die?
John 3:16 and Psalms 2:7 - Only begotten son?
John 5:31 and John 8:14 - Was Jesus' record true or not?
VERSES THAT CONTRADICT THE TRINITARIAN DOCTRINE AND/OR THE DIVINITY OF JESUS
Exodus 33:20, John 1:18, 1 Timothy 6:16 - No one saw God.
Isaiah 42:8 - Do not praise and worship images.
Isaiah 45:1 - "Anointed" does not mean "God".
Matthew 14:23, 19:13, 26:39, 27:46, 26:42-44 - Jesus prayed.
Matthew 24:36 - Jesus was not all-knowing.
Matthew 26:39 - Jesus and God had different wills.
Matthew 28:18 - All power was given to Jesus.
Mark 1:35, 6:46, 14:35-36 - Jesus prayed.
Mark 10:17-18 and Luke 18:18-19 - Jesus denied divinity.
Mark 12:28-29 - God is one.
Mark 13:32 - Jesus was not all-knowing.
Mark 16:19 and Luke 22:69 - Jesus at the right hand of God.
Luke 3:21, 5:16, 6:12, 9:18, 9:28, 11:1-4, 22:41 - Jesus prayed.
Luke 4:18, 9:48, 10:16 - Jesus was from God.
Luke 7:16, 13:33, 24:18-19 - Jesus was a prophet.
Luke 10:21 - Jesus gave thanks.
Luke 23:46 - The spirit of Jesus was commended to God.
John 4:19 - Jesus was a prophet.
John 4:23-24 - Worship in spirit and truth.
John 14:28 - One was greater than the other.
John 5:19, 5:30, 7:28, 8:28 - Jesus was helpless.
John 5:20 - The Father showed the son.
John 5:30 and 6:38 - Jesus and God had different wills.
John 5:31-32 - Jesus' witness was not true.
John 6:11 and 11:41-42 - Jesus gave thanks.
John 6:32 - The Father was the provider, not the son.
John 7:29, 16:5, 16:28 - Jesus was from God.
John 7:16, 12:49, 14:24, 17:14 - Jesus' words were not his.
John 8:42 - Jesus did not come of himself.
John 10:29 - "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all."
John 14:1 - Jesus said, "...believe also in me."
John 14:16, 17:1, 17:9, 17:11, 17:15 - Jesus prayed.
John 14:31 and 15:10 - Jesus followed commands.
John 17:6-8 - "I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me."
John 20:17 - Jesus had a god.
Acts 2:22 - Jesus was "a man approved of God."
Romans 8:34 - Jesus was an intercessor.
1 Timothy 2:5 - Jesus was the mediator between God and humans.
Incidentally, these are really only some selections of contradictions and inaccuracies found in the modern versions of the Bible. There are many more but for the sake of time and space we have limited ourselves to those listed above.
Again I would like to repeat, the Muslim must believe in all original texts coming from Almighty God. The only subject being discussed here is whether or not the Bible being offered today in the English language is in fact, the real "Bible".

http://islamtomorrow.com/bible/bible_closer_l...
Saleem

Aurora, Canada

#141 Mar 30, 2013
Polo wrote:
<quoted text>
Please let me tell you one thing read the Quran it will answer all your questions.
The Quran says: AND REMEMBER THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION TRUTH STANDS OUT CLEAR FROM ERROR.
This verse has been abrogated.Muslims use this only for the kafirs to hoodwink them.
Polo

London, UK

#142 Mar 30, 2013
Jesus is wrote:
JOHN 17:20-23, Jesus prays for his disciples:
"that they may all be one just as as You Father are in me and I in You.... that, they may be one, just as WE ALSO ARE ONE."
"....I GO TO THE FATHER....." I join back to God!!!!!
fk you are stupid!
IF CHRISTIANS EDITED THE GOSPELS AND IT MEANS WHAT YOU THINK, WHY DIDN'T THEY EDIT IT OUT!!!!!!!
"ONE" - SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN LITERALLY
Mark 10:6-9 and John 14:20, 15:1-7, 17:11, 17:18-23, 17:26
There are many verses in the Bible that speak of Jesus and God as being "one".
But does this necessarily mean that Jesus is God? If you read the six selections above then you will see that we cannot take the word "one" so literally. IF WE DO, THEN WE ARE GOD, as Jesus said, "...THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US" and "...they may be one, even as we are one." What the Bible means when it says that Jesus is "one" with God is that he is extremely close to god, "as if" they are one. John 17:18-23 tells how we normal human beings can attain this "oneness" (or "closeness") with God by being "sanctified through the truth." Aside from this, neither the word "trinity" appears anywhere in the Bible nor any explanation of such a thing.
Polo

London, UK

#143 Mar 30, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible is the same as it was in the beginning.
You are a wolf in sheep clothing.
Your testimony against Gods Holy Bible is a fraud.
You shame your self Muslim.
Fastest growing religion in America - Hillary Rodman Clinton
"ISLAM IS THE FASTEST-GROWING RELIGION IN AMERICA, a guide and pillar of stability for many of our people..."[HILLARY RODMAN CLINTON, Los Angeles Times, May 31,1996, p.3]
Moslems-fastest growing group...- USA Today
Already more than a billion-people strong,Islamis the world’s fastest-growing religion.[ABCNEWS, Abcnews.com ]
God sent me Quran -Cat Stevens (former Jazz singer from England)
"Everything made so much sense. This is the beauty of the Qur'an; it asks you to reflect and reason....When I read the Qur'an further,it talked about prayer, kindness and charity. I was not a Muslim yet,but I felt the only answer for me was the Qur'an and God had sent it to me."[Cat Stevens (Now Yusuf Islam),former Britpop star.]
"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the country."[NEWSDAY, March 7, 1989,p.4]
"Islam is the fastest-growing religion in the United States..." [NEW YORK TIMES,Feb21,1989,p.1]

Moslems are the world's fastest-growing group..." [USA TODAY,The Population Reference bureau, Feb. 17, 1989,.4A ]
"MUHAMMADis the most successful of all Prophets N religious personalities."[Encyclope dia Britannica]
"There are more Muslims in North America then Jews Now."[Dan Rathers,CBSNEWS]
"Islam is the fastest growing religion in NorthAmerica."(TIMES MAGAZINE]
"Islam continues 2 grow in America,N no one can doubt that!" [CNN,December15,1995]
"The Religion of Islam is growing faster than any other religion in the world."[MIKE WALLACE,60 MINUTES]
"Five to 6 million strong,Muslims in America already outnumber Presbyterians,Episcopalians,an d Mormons, and they are more numerous than Quakers,Unitarians,Seventh-day Adventists,Mennonites, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Christian Scientists,combined.Many demographers say Islam has overtaken Judaism as the country's second-most commonly practiced religion; others say itis in the passing lane."[JOHAN BLANK,US NEWS(7/20/98)]
"In fact, Religion experts say Islam is the second-largest religion in the United States...Islam has 5 million to 6 million members, followed by Judaism,with approximately 4.5 million..... And Islam is believed 2 be fastest-growing religion in the country, with half its expansion coming from new immigrants and the other half from conversions."[By ELSA C. ARNETT Knight-Ridder News Service]
"It has been a great pleasure for me to help clarify statements in the Quran about human development.It is clear to me that these statements must have come to Muhammad from Allah, or Allah, because almost all of this knowledge was not discovered until many centuries later. This proves to me that Muhammad must have been a messenger of God or Allah."Professor Keith Moore, one of the world’s prominent scientists of anatomy and embryology. University of Toronto,Canada]
"But Islam has a still further service to render to the cause of humanity.Itstands after all nearer to the real East than Europe does, and it possesses a magnificent tradition of inter-racial understanding and cooperation. No other society has such a record of success uniting in an equality of status, of opportunity, N of endeavours so many and so various races of mankind ...Islam has still the power 2 reconcile apparently irreconcilable elements of race and tradition.If ever the opposition of the great societies of East and West is to be replaced by cooperation, the mediation of Islam is an indispensable condition. In its hands lies very largely the solution of the problem with which Europe is faced in its relation with East.If they unite, the hope of a peaceful issue is immeasurably enhanced.But if Europe, by rejecting the cooperation of Islam, throws it into the arms of its rivals,the issue can only be disastrous for both." [H.A.R. Gibb,WHITHER ISLAM,London, 1932, P. 379.]
Polo

London, UK

#145 Mar 30, 2013
WHAT THEY SAYS ABOUT ISLAM?
[Professor Palmer a scientist from the U.S.] We need research into the history of early Middle Eastern oral traditions to know whether in fact such historical events have been reported. If there is no such record, it strengthens the belief that Allah transmitted through Muhammad bits of his knowledge that we have only discovered for ourselves in recent times. We look forward to a continuing dialogue on the topic of science in the Quran in the context of geology. Thank you very much.
[Professor Tagata Tagasone, formerly Head of the Department of Anatomy and Embryology at the University of Shiang Mai in Thailand. He is now the Dean of the College of the Medicine at the University.]
From my studies and from what I have learned throughout this conference, I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Quran 1400 years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means. Since the Prophet Muhammad could neither read nor write, Muhammad must be a messenger who relayed this truth which was revealed to him as an enlightenment by the One Who is an Eligible Creator. This Creator must
be Allah, or Allah. Therefore, I think this is the time to say ‘Laa ilaaha illallah’, that there is no Allah to worship except Allah,‘Muhammad Rasool Allah’, Muhammad is messenger of Allah...
[Professor Armstrong, Scientist works at NASA] I am impressed that how remarkably some of the ancient writings seem to correspond to modern and recent Astronomy. There may well have to be something beyond what we understand as ordinary human experience to account for the writings that we have seen.
[Professor Durga Rao] It is difficult to imagine that this type of knowledge was existing at that time, around 1400 years back. May be some of the things they have simple idea about, but do describe those things in great detail is very difficult. So, this is definitely not a simple human knowledge.
"No other society has such a record of success in uniting in an equality of status, of opportunity and Endeavour so many and so varied races of mankind. The great Muslim communities of Africa, India and Indonesia, perhaps also the small community in
Japan, show that Islam has still the power to reconcile apparently irreconcilable elements of race and tradition. If
ever the opposition of the great societies of the East and west is to be replaced by cooperation, the mediation of Islam is
an indispensable condition." [H.A.R. Gibb, WHITHER ISLAM, p. 379]
The nation's claim to be a Christian country is about to meet its first challenge: the number of practising Muslims is set to overtake Anglican Christians.... There has also been a number of high-profile conversions to Islam from Christianity. These include Mike Tyson, the former world champion boxer; Chris Eubank, the British middleweight boxing champion, who has changed his name to Hamdan; and Cat Stevens, the pop musician, who calls himself Yusuf Islam.... Prince Charles courted controversy earlier this year when he reaffirmed his
claim that when he succeeds the throne, he does not wish to be the defender of only the Christian faith.[Rajeev Syal and Christopher Morgan Sunday Times (London, U.K.)]
Savior of Humanity (Muhammad)- George Bernard Shaw
"I have studied him - the wonderful man - and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ he must be called the saviour of humanity. " [George Bernard Shaw in "The Genuine Islam"]
Polo

London, UK

#146 Mar 30, 2013
WHAT THEY SAYS ABOUT ISLAM(CONT)
Muhammad - inspired man - founder of Islam James A. Michener - famous author
"Muhammad, the inspired man who founded Islam, was born about A.D. 570 into an Arabian tribe that worshipped idols. Orphaned at birth, he was always particularly solicitous of the poor and needy, the widow and the orphan, the slave and the downtrodden. At twenty, he was already a successful businessman, and soon became director of camel caravans for a wealthy widow. When he reached twenty-five, his employer, recognizing his merit, proposed marriage. Even though she was fifteen years older, he married her, and as long as she lived, remained a devoted husband. "Like almost every major prophet before him, Muhammad fought shy of serving as the transmitter of God's word, sensing his own inadequacy. But the angel commanded 'Read.' So far as we know, Muhammad was unable to read or write, but he began to dictate those inspired words which would soon revolutionize a large segment of the earth:'There is one God.' "In all things Muhammad was profoundly practical. When his beloved son Ibrahim died, an eclipse occurred, and rumours of God's personal condolence quickly arose. Whereupon Muhammad is said to have announced,'An eclipse is a phenomenon of nature. It is foolish to attribute such things to the death or birth of a human being. "At Muhammad's own death an attempt was made to deify him, but the man who was to become his administrative successor killed the hysteria with one of the noblest speeches in religious history:'If there are any among you who worshipped Muhammad, he is dead. But if it is God you worshipped, He lives forever." [James A. Michener, "Islam: The Misunderstood Religion," in READER'S DIGEST (American edition), May 1955, pp. 68-70.]
"In little more than a year he was actually the spiritual, nominal and temporal rule of Medina, with his hands on the lever that was to shake the world." [John Austin, "Muhammad the Prophet of Allah," in T.P.'s and Cassel's Weekly for 24th September 1927.]
"Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born at Mecca, in Arabia the man who, of all men exercised the greatest influence upon the human race ... Mohammed ... " [John William Draper, M.D., L.L.D., A History of the Intellectual Development of Europe, London 1875, Vol.1, pp.329-330]
"Muhammad was the soul of kindness, and his influence was felt and never forgotten by those around him." [Diwan Chand Sharma, The Prophets of the East, Calcutta 1935, p. l 22.]
"People like Pasteur and Salk are leaders in the first sense. People like Gandhi and Confucius, on one hand, and Alexander, Caesar and Hitler on the other, are leaders in the second and perhaps the third sense. Jesus and Buddha belong in the third category alone. Perhaps the greatest leader of all times was Mohammed, who combined all three functions. To a lesser
degree, Moses did the same." [Professor Jules Masserman]
[Ahmed Versi, editor of the weekly Muslim News,] said the growth of Islam has been constant: "The younger generation of Muslims that I have encountered is becoming more aware of its Muslim identity and is therefore practising its faith with vigour."
"The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam and in the
contemporary world there is, as it happens, a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue..." [A.J. Toynbee, CIVILIZATION ON TRIAL, New York, p. 205]
"Sense of justice is one of the most wonderful ideals of Islam, because as I read in the Qur'an I find those dynamic principles of life, not mystic but practical ethics for the daily conduct of life suited to the whole world." [Lectures on "The Ideals of Islam;" see SPEECHES AND WRITINGS OF SAROJINI NAIDU, Madras, 1918, p. 167.]

TO BE CONTINUED
Polo

London, UK

#147 Mar 30, 2013
WHAT THEY SAYS ABOUT ISLAM(CONT)
"History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated." [De Lacy O'Leary, ISLAM AT THE CROSSROADS, London, 1923, p. 8.]
"The Muslim community is much more aware of its religion and the use that religion plays within its community." [Dr Peter Brierley, Executive Director of the Christian Research Association, a London-based charity]
"I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Saviour of Humanity. I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today." [George Bernard Shaw, THE GENUINE ISLAM, Vol. 1, No.81936.]
"A growing number of Muslims in America, more than 40 percent are African-American,"[Charle s Bierbauer, from the SeniorWashington Correspondent]
"The extinction of race consciousness as between Muslims is one of the outstanding achievements of Islam, and in the contemporary world there is, as it happens,a crying need for the propagation of this Islamic virtue."[A.J.Toynbee,CIVI LIZATION ON TRIAL, New York,1948 p.205.]
"The rise of Islam is perhaps the most amazing event in human history. Springing from a land and a people like previously negligible, Islam spread within a century over half the earth, shattering great empires, overthrowing long established religions, remoulding the souls of races, and building up a whole new world - world of Islam.
"The closer we examine this development the more extraordinary does it appear. The other great religions won their way slowly, by painful struggle and finally triumphed with the aid of powerful monarchs converted to the new faith.Christianity had its Constantine, Buddhism its Asoka, and Zoroastrianism its Cyrus, each lending to his chosen cult the mighty force of secular authority. Not so Islam.Arising in a desert land sparsely inhabited by a nomad race previously undistinguished in human annals, Islam sallied forth on its great adventure with the slenderest human backing and against the heaviest material odds. Yet Islam triumphed with seemingly miraculous ease, and a couple of generations saw the Fiery Crescent borne victorious from the Pyrenees to the Himalayas and from the desert of Central Asia to the deserts of Central Africa." [A.M.L. Stoddard, quoted in ISLAM - THE RELIGION OF ALL PROPHETS, Begum Bawani Waqf, Karachi, Pakistan, p. 56.]
"I am not a Muslim in the usual sense, though I hope I am a "Muslim" as "one surrendered to God," but I believe that embedded in the Quran and other expressions of the Islamic vision are vast stores of divine truth from which I and other occidentals have still much to learn, and 'Islam is certainly a strong contender for the supplying of the basic framework of the one religion of the future.'" [W. Montgomery Watt, ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY TODAY, London, 1983,p.ix.]
'I believe in One God and Mahomet the Apostle of God,'is the simple and invariable profession of Islam.The intellectual image of the Deity has never been degraded by any visible idol;the honours of the prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue,and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion."[Edward Gibbon and Simon Ocklay, HISTORY OFTHE SARACEN EMPIRE, London,1870,p. 54.]
jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#148 Mar 30, 2013
Polo wrote:
<quoted text>
Please let me tell you one thing read the Quran it will answer all your questions.
The Quran says: AND REMEMBER THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION TRUTH STANDS OUT CLEAR FROM ERROR.
SO WHY CAN'T I GET ANSWERS?
Why aren't all the answers in the Quran.
If ther's no compulsionin religion, why are muslims sending souls to satan?
Polo wrote:
<quoted text>"Indeed in the Messenger of God you have a good example to follow for him who hopes for (the Meeting with) God and the Last Day, and remembers God much." (Quran 33:21).
Readthe earliest surviving biogrophy of Muhammed and see how peaceful he was.(wasn't)
jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#149 Mar 30, 2013
I AM SO SICK OF LOOKING FOR THE ANSWERS TO "BIBLE CONTRADICTIONS" WHICH I HAVE DONE SO MANY TIMES HERE. WHY DON'T YOU LOOK FOR THEM YOURSELF?...you'll find them.

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