Jesus is not God

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Yes, Eric. I have heard about the alleged Trinity, a subject which was never taught and preached by Jesus and his disciples at all.
I believe it was finalized in the 6th Century.
I and the Father are one!
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May 6, 2013
 
Seeker wrote:
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That was Timothy, not a loner guy who came later who wrote revelation with some very strange visions. If you think otherwise, then you can join the discussion and explain how the stars are supposed to "fall" like figs fall off of a tree.
That was Paul the apostle writing to Timothy. In the Tribulation many things you wouldn't dream of happening will happen, if you don't believe me read Revelation, if you don't believe John you're on your own man Revelation 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

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#1089
May 6, 2013
 
Eric wrote:
<quoted text> I and the Father are one!
I and God are also one.

Does that make me God or am I claiming to be God?

Jesus did not say, "I and the Father are one and the same person".

Nobody likes to use this translation:

" John 10:30 Contemporary English Version (CEV)

30 and I am one with the Father."
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May 6, 2013
 
bmz wrote:
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I and God are also one.
Does that make me God or am I claiming to be God?
Jesus did not say, "I and the Father are one and the same person".
Nobody likes to use this translation:
" John 10:30 Contemporary English Version (CEV)
30 and I am one with the Father."
of course no goon muslims at muis tell you at which point of muslim isa escaped from his fate only to be replaced by a dumb, mute imposter who kept on preaching his injeel. f.islam.
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#1091
May 6, 2013
 
in time.

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May 6, 2013
 
[QUOTE who="Dolly, the clone bmz"]in time.[/QUOTE]

OK, baby.

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#1094
May 6, 2013
 
Dolly the clone wrote:
in time.
Hope this comes well.

“Alea iacta est!”

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bmz wrote:
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I and God are also one.
Does that make me God or am I claiming to be God?
Jesus did not say, "I and the Father are one and the same person".
Nobody likes to use this translation:
" John 10:30 Contemporary English Version (CEV)
30 and I am one with the Father."
More Bullshit from BMZ..........nothing new just more nonsense.

No one takes you seriously child.

Go back and take your nap.

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More Bullshit from BMZ..........nothing new just more nonsense.
No one takes you seriously child.
Go back and take your nap.
Well, you did take me seriously. Didn't you, Mum? If not, you would have ignored me.

Read again what I wrote. This is not Bullshit!

"I and God are also one.

Does that make me God or am I claiming to be God?

Jesus did not say, "I and the Father are one and the same person".

Nobody likes to use this translation:
" John 10:30 Contemporary English Version (CEV)
30 and I am one with the Father." "

Let me give you some examples to show you what a load of Bull Shit is:

1. Jesus is the Son of God.

2. Jesus is God.

3. Jesus is the Father.

4. Jesus is God in flesh or God in person, whatever.

5. Jesus is God of God.

6. Jesus is the Messiah.

7. Jesus is God-Incarnate.

8. Jesus is God come down in the form of a man.

Do you believe in that load of Bull Shit?

Who Jesus was, should have come from Jesus, not some ignorant pagan fools, who never sat in the company of the wise.

For the first four centuries, nobody believed in any of the above Bull Shit! Nobody worshipped him as God.

You need to read the New Testament and find out. Once you have read the Christian Bible, you will be like I AM, now.


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May 6, 2013
 
@ Trisha

I assume you are a native speaker of English and I hope you do have some knowledge of English literature and grammar.

Suppose you and I agree on many things and I say, "Trisha and I are one".

Am I saying that Trisha is BMZ and that BMZ is Trisha?

Please do not give me an off-topic reply.

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@ Trisha
I assume you are a native speaker of English and I hope you do have some knowledge of English literature and grammar.
Suppose you and I agree on many things and I say, "Trisha and I are one".
Am I saying that Trisha is BMZ and that BMZ is Trisha?
Please do not give me an off-topic reply.
Your assessment is wrong!
Your statement correctly should read:
"Trisha and I are in agreement"

Not Trisha and I are one.

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bmz wrote:
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Hope this comes well.
Why do Muhammad's followers in certain countries promote stonings, beheadings, amputations, whippings, etc. when this would be against the prophet's teaching?

United States: A Muslim man slaughtered two Coptic Christians in New Jersey. Although authorities believe that "the defendant was ruthless and calculating in the manner in which he carried out the killings and attempted to prevent identification of the victims by cutting off their heads and hands before burying their bodies," it is relevant to note that Koran 8:12 records Allah saying, "I will cast terror into the hearts of infidels, so strike [them] upon the necks [behead them] and strike from them every fingertip." Moreover, as one report puts it, "Privately some wonder if it had something to do with the victims'[Christian] religion."

"it is relevant to note that Koran 8:12 records Allah saying, "I will cast terror into the hearts of infidels, so strike [them] upon the necks [behead them] and strike from them every fingertip."

Why did Muhammad accept that ungodly revelation from Gabriel BMZ?
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bmz wrote:
@ Trisha
I assume you are a native speaker of English and I hope you do have some knowledge of English literature and grammar.
Suppose you and I agree on many things and I say, "Trisha and I are one".
Am I saying that Trisha is BMZ and that BMZ is Trisha?
Please do not give me an off-topic reply.
Salaamz Oh Scholarly One. Isnt it down right hillarious how the scholar-wannbys follow you around and toss impotent salvos of sarchasm at you in a vain attempt at waxing-intelligent?LOL! Oh If they only Knew what torch of knowledge you held so high.Had they brains they would approach you with the wisdom of fertile questions,and the humility of acceptance in your answers. CheerZ most venerable one.

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Shamma wrote:
John 8:24 says if you don't believe Jesus is the one he claims to be, you will die in your sins. Who is he?
Answer
God in human form.
Jesus said to the Jews "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am the one I claim to be, you will indeed die in your sins" (John 8:23-24 New International Version).
I am the man who claims to be Jesus and my life story is millions of times more valuable than the man Jesus who you never knew. If you don't listen to and follow me you will destroy the resources of the planet and harm everyone and everything on it with your greedy and possesive satanic ways. I am born of a woman but I am also from far above you and have never been of your world even though I live within it. Does mankind's works are like filthy rags ring a bell? That's my opinion.

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Polo wrote:
Cont From Top
Why Jews Don't Believe In Jesus
For 2,000 years Jews have rejected the Christian idea of Jesus as messiah. Why?
http://www.aish.com/jw/s/48892792.html
Throughout the New Testament, Jesus contradicts the Torah and states that its commandments are no longer applicable. For example, John 9:14 records that Jesus made a paste in violation of Shabbat, which caused the Pharisees to say (verse 16), "He does not observe Shabbat!"
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3) Mistranslated Verses "Referring" to Jesus
Biblical verses can only be understood by studying the original Hebrew text &#8213; which reveals many discrepancies in the Christian translation.
A. Virgin Birth
The Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from the verse in Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries later and translated it as "virgin." This accords Jesus' birth with the first century pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by gods.
Mohammed does not qualify because he is not of the house of Israel or the seed of David. The Apostles never once hinted that there would come another prophet who would replace Jesus as the head of the New Covenant Israel of God.

The New Testament emphasis on the blood of the everlasting covenant in reference to Calvary immediately exposes Islam as a fraud.

Muslims claim Jesus did not die on the cross, a clear contradiction to the words of Jesus himself and his Apostles. Jesus prophesied he would die and be raised the third day (Mat. 16:21).

Mohammed lied about Jesus when he said Jesus did not die! If Jesus did not die and if he was not raised from the dead on the third day, then Jesus was a false prophet.

Yet according to Islamics, Jesus was a true prophet! Prophets do not miss in their predictions.

Therefore, if Mohammed said Jesus did not die and was not raised from the dead, he is a false prophet!

If as Muslims claim, Jesus was a true prophet, how come Mohammed and Muslims do not follow his teachings?

The Quran begins with falsehood, contains falsehood, and ends with falsehood, claiming that when Jesus returns from heaven He will die and be buried next to Mohammed in Medina.

In the index of the Koran, published by Penguin Classic Publications, there are 28 references to almsgiving and charity; 34 references to law-keeping diet regulations; 42 references to heaven and 30 for paradise.

There are 99 references to judgment day, 22 references to hell including graphic descriptions of the punishments awaiting infidels;

18 references to killing and when it is justified, 8 references to martydom for Islam; 28 references to the devil, and 37 references to war.

There were "NO" entries in the index for peace, love, joy, mercy, grace, or hope! Obviously there is a big difference between Jesus and Mohammed!

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Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text>Salaamz Oh Scholarly One. Isnt it down right hillarious how the scholar-wannbys follow you around and toss impotent salvos of sarchasm at you in a vain attempt at waxing-intelligent?LOL! Oh If they only Knew what torch of knowledge you held so high.Had they brains they would approach you with the wisdom of fertile questions,and the humility of acceptance in your answers. CheerZ most venerable one.
Mohammed does not qualify because he is not of the house of Israel or the seed of David. The Apostles never once hinted that there would come another prophet who would replace Jesus as the head of the New Covenant Israel of God.

The New Testament emphasis on the blood of the everlasting covenant in reference to Calvary immediately exposes Islam as a fraud.

Muslims claim Jesus did not die on the cross, a clear contradiction to the words of Jesus himself and his Apostles. Jesus prophesied he would die and be raised the third day (Mat. 16:21).

Mohammed lied about Jesus when he said Jesus did not die! If Jesus did not die and if he was not raised from the dead on the third day, then Jesus was a false prophet.

Yet according to Islamics, Jesus was a true prophet! Prophets do not miss in their predictions.

Therefore, if Mohammed said Jesus did not die and was not raised from the dead, he is a false prophet!

If as Muslims claim, Jesus was a true prophet, how come Mohammed and Muslims do not follow his teachings?

The Quran begins with falsehood, contains falsehood, and ends with falsehood, claiming that when Jesus returns from heaven He will die and be buried next to Mohammed in Medina.

In the index of the Koran, published by Penguin Classic Publications, there are 28 references to almsgiving and charity; 34 references to law-keeping diet regulations; 42 references to heaven and 30 for paradise.

There are 99 references to judgment day, 22 references to hell including graphic descriptions of the punishments awaiting infidels;

18 references to killing and when it is justified, 8 references to martydom for Islam; 28 references to the devil, and 37 references to war.

There were "NO" entries in the index for peace, love, joy, mercy, grace, or hope! Obviously there is a big difference between Jesus and Mohammed!

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May 7, 2013
 
Muhammad and jinn devils in the Quran:
http://religionresearchinstitute.org/quran/ji...

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Shamma wrote:
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Your assessment is wrong!
Your statement correctly should read:

"Trisha and I are in agreement"

Not Trisha and I are one.
Great!

Thank you. Now you got it after centuries of folly!

So, Jesus' statement meant exactly "The Father and I are in agreement."

And thanks for debunking the myth that Jesus and the Father are one.

Good. I see some progress.

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Jake999 wrote:
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I am the man who claims to be Jesus and my life story is millions of times more valuable than the man Jesus who you never knew. If you don't listen to and follow me you will destroy the resources of the planet and harm everyone and everything on it with your greedy and possesive satanic ways. I am born of a woman but I am also from far above you and have never been of your world even though I live within it. Does mankind's works are like filthy rags ring a bell? That's my opinion.
Welcome and Greetings, Jake

When will you show yourself to world, lord? It is now time to reveal yourself.

Shalom
BMZ

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Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text>Salaamz Oh Scholarly One. Isnt it down right hillarious how the scholar-wannbys follow you around and toss impotent salvos of sarchasm at you in a vain attempt at waxing-intelligent?LOL! Oh If they only Knew what torch of knowledge you held so high.Had they brains they would approach you with the wisdom of fertile questions,and the humility of acceptance in your answers. CheerZ most venerable one.
Thanks, Rabbeen

You and I are one but in this case the fools refuse to think we are the one and the same person. And they become interested in grammar, etc.

However, when it is said that it was said, "The Father and I are one", grammar is chucked away and the great folly of making two as one, is exercised. By the way, this was the prelude to trinity.

When the Church fathers saw that Jesus never spoke much about the alleged Holy Spirit, they added it in the Trinity. And this was the biggest and the most hilarious blunder for Jesus had never said, "The Father, the Ghost and I are one". Imagine!!!

It is downright hilarious and also look at the double standard.

Finally, Shamma got it here.

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TC3...

Salaams O' Intelligent and Wise Reader.
BMZ

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