Jesus is not God
POLO

Dartford, UK

#683 Apr 19, 2013
jesus is wrote:
<quoted text>
"....YET NOT WHAT I WILL, BUT WHAT YOU WILL"!!!!!!!!
<quoted text>
THANKS FOR AGREEING THAT IT WAS IN FACT JESUS WHO SAID THAT, and not Allah's deceptive replacement.
<quoted text>
Maybe it was the part of God made human and weaker, praying to his father.

WHY DIDN'T CHRISTIANS EDIT THAT?????
THREE GRADES OF EVIDENCE
We Muslims have no hesitation in acknowledging that in the Bible, there are three different kinds of witnessing recognizable without any need of specialized training. These are:
1. You will be able to recognize in the Bible what may be described as "The Word Of God."
2. You will also be able to discern what can be described as the "Words of a PROPHET OF GOD."
3. And you will most readily observe that the bulk of the Bible is the records of Eye Witnessess or Ear Witnesses, or People Writing From Hearsay. As such they are the "Words Of A Historian"
You do not have to hunt for examples of these different types of evidences in the Bible. The following quotations will make the position crystal clear:
1ST TYPE:) I even, I am the Lord, and beside me there is no saviour." (Isaiah 43:11)

2ND TYPE "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God." (Mark 10:18).

3RD TYPE:-"And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he,(JESUS) came, if haply he (JESUS) might find anything thereon: and when he (JESUS) came to it,(Jesus) found nothing but leaves ..." (Mark 11:13)

I REST MY CASE
POLO

Dartford, UK

#684 Apr 19, 2013
Isreality wrote:
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Let's see the proof of your claims.
Show the Book and verse professor.
Let's see if 'you' can 'prove' other wise.
Or maybe your mouth is bigger than your brain
I HAVE BEEN ASKING HIM FOR PROOF EVER SINCE I STARTED COMING ON THIS SITE hE IS A NOBODY.
POLO

Dartford, UK

#685 Apr 19, 2013
Shamma wrote:
Muslims have a make believe relationship with an unknown god.
Muslims live the life of Muhammad, not a life with God.
Muslims are too lazy to read what I post, and too ignorant to see that Muslims depend upon their own to get to heaven.
Muslims have the reasoning of the illiterate mind of Muhammad.
Muslims are the evil image Muhammad.
That is the difference between Muslims and Christians.
We know we are not worthy to be accepted by God, yet we are thankful for the love God has for us and shed His blood to make us Holy in His eyes, not of our own doing, but through the suffering of Jesus on the cross.
God loved us so much that He sent His only unique Son to redeem us from our sins.
Our faith is in God, while your faith is in Muhammad and Muhammad's plan of salvation [his religion] for Muslims.
Muhammad stated he perfected his religion for Muslims to follow.
You ignored that, not realizing that it is not God that has perfected Muslim religion, but rather Muhammad himself.
And Muhammad's religion cannot save anyone from the fires of hell.
God is impeccable, while Allah boast of being a deceiver.
Muhammad put the fear of Muhammad in Muslims with all his doomsday talk of the evil infidels being sent to hell by Allah.
Your religion and god is of Satan and Muhammad is a demon from hell.
Muslims believe that Jesus was born miraculously of a virgin mother and no father. His birth is miraculous like the birth of Adam, the first human being, who was created with neither mother nor father.
1. Muslims do not believe that Jesus was the son of God. God is so powerful and self-sufficient that He does not need a son or any kind of partner.
2. In Arabic Bible the name for God is Allah. Therefore all Arab Christian call God Allah as Muslim do as well.
3. Jesus did not die on the cross. Rather, God saved him as his enemies were confused about him. Jesus was taken up by God to Heaven.
4. Jesus is called Isa (pronounced Eesa) in Arabic.
5. Jesus performed miracles by the Will of God, like healing the blind and those with leprosy, Raised the dead.
6. Muslims Circumcise same as Jesus did on the 8th day
7. Jesus fell on his face when he prayed to the same God as all Prophets and we pray to.
8. Muslim perform Abulution Same like Jesus Moses And Aaron
9. Muslims Do not eat Pork, or drink alcohol same as Jesus.
10. Jesus will return before the end of the world.

Say: we believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us; we believe in what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and the tribes; to Moses and Jesus and the other prophets, We make no distinction between any of them, and to God we have surrendered ourselves. Quran Sura 2:136. i.e. in full submission and obedience.

Say:'O People of the Book, come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but God; that we associate not aught with Him; and do not some of us take others as Lords, apart from God. And if they turn their backs, say:'Bear witness that we are Muslims’.(3:64)

• They say,‘God taken to Him a son.' Glory be to Him. He is all-sufficient; to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth; you have no authority for this. Do you say concerning God what you do not know?(10:68)

People of the Book! why do you disbelieve in God's signs, which you yourselves witness?(3:70)

People of the Book! why do you confound the truth with falsehood and conceal the truth knowingly?(3:71)

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#686 Apr 19, 2013
POLO wrote:
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{10:34} Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?{10:35} If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
The expression "I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE," was very innocent, meaning nothing more than a common purpose with God.
"THAT THEY ALL MAY BE ONE AS THOU. FATHER, ART IN ME, AND I IN THEE, THAT THEY ALSO MAY BE ONE IN US..."
"I IN THEM, AND THOU IN ME, THAT THEY MAY BE MADE PERFECT IN ONE..."(JOHN 17:20-22)
John A-V {17:21} Jesus said: That they all may be one; as you, Father,[art] in me, and I in you, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that you has sent me.{17:22} And the glory which you gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:{17:23} I in them, and you in me, that they may be made perfect in one.
God almighty Jesus and the 12 disciples all are one, so if the meaning of the word (one) is to be taken literally then the Christian need to believe in 14 Gods but naturally they are one in teaching and knowledge providing to the people.
You are stupid Muslim.
You talk out of your sic mind of Muhammad.
You drink to much Camel piss, and it has made you a crazy Muslim.
Can you prove your Muslim Allah is God?
You can not say your Allah god is the God of the Bible, for the God of the Bible revealed Himself to be a Trinity before Muhammad and his book the Quran was written.
If You say your Allah god gave the Jews and Christians the Bible then you are saying your Allah is a Trinity God.
So how do you explain your Allah as a god?
POLO

Dartford, UK

#687 Apr 19, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>Who are the Jews?
Do Muslims worship the Jews as Gods?
Is Allah a Jew?
What are you saying?
Are you a Jew Apolo?
Why did God allow the Jewish temple to be destroyed in 70 AD?
You are ignorant of Scripture Muslim.
The Word of God was spread around the world by Christians Muslim,. not by the Jews.
You are a dumb ass Muslim trying to hide behind a Jew.
LMAO!
Muslims Do NOT NEED JEWS Its You Christians Who Need Them put that in that tiny brain of yours.
Without the Old Testament You are Nothing Remember
POLO

Dartford, UK

#688 Apr 19, 2013
jesus is wrote:
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BUT THE QURAN IS A LIE!!!!!!!!!!
Written to keep 'believers' judging and killing "unbelievers', so satan wins their souls before they find God.
Produce Your Proof If You Are Truthful
POLO

Dartford, UK

#689 Apr 19, 2013
Eric wrote:
Okay if Jesus was not God, but just a prophet than why did he claim to be the Son of God? In the following verses I and my Father are one.(John 10:30) Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.(John 8:58) And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM....(Exodus 3:14) He also said; I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.(Revelation 1:80) So if Jesus was just a prophet why did he say these things? He also said that he would die but in three days he would rise again from the dead John 2:19-21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? But he spake of the temple of his body. So if he was just a prophet why did he say these things? And how did he know that he would die but then rise from the dead three days later?
You Have Sons Of God By The Tons In The Bible
POLO

Dartford, UK

#690 Apr 19, 2013
Eric wrote:
John 10:30 I and my Father are one. John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM... what would you call this?
Do You Mean That When I Say "I Am" That Make Me God
POLO

Dartford, UK

#691 Apr 19, 2013
Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
Is it the evil thing to read the bible? I was quoting all the verses from your bible the one you read and believe it. I did not USE any abusive language because I am not allow to do it. I don't mind your rude comments. It was my duty to tell you the truth. In the end, I can say to my God that I did not hide the truth.
Very True Alhamdulillah
POLO

Dartford, UK

#692 Apr 19, 2013
Nandrelle wrote:
<quoted text>
You are Just a dumb Muslim.
Who said I was a muslim??? Use your head idiot!
Jesus is always God
If jesus was God as you say how come he died..Isnt God supposed to be immortal or the all powerful one....Jesus was a MESSENGER of God NOT God himself! You are preaching religion to me but you cant see past it!
What kind of God would come to Earth kill himself and then return to Heaven!! Unless he thought humanity is that stupid to think that....You stupid idiot use your head!!
After being crucified and spat on by His Creatures He went back to Heaven thinking I am A Failure My Own Creature Is Capable To Do That To Me I Think All Whats Left For Me Is To Call Them God And I'll Become Their Creature.
Could that Be Possible? No Chance
God Is God
Man Is Man
Nandrelle

Saint Louis, MO

#693 Apr 19, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>If you are so smart dumb ass why do you have to ask such a stupid question?
http://carm.org/can-god-die
lol you said Jesus was always God! I said he was a messanger of God NOT God himself!!

Whats the problem..try thinking more!

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#694 Apr 19, 2013
Nandrelle wrote:
<quoted text>
lol you said Jesus was always God! I said he was a messanger of God NOT God himself!!
Whats the problem..try thinking more!
Your problem is Muhammad turned your Allah God into being the Devil.
Muslims are not learned in the Bible.
So Muslims speak out of Muhammad's ass.
In order to understand who Jesus is you need to understand the God of the Bible.
Gods mercy and forgiveness of sins is not that simple as Muhammad says in the Quran.
Muslim ignore that God has an Altar in heaven, and has a priest hood of whom Jesus is the High priest.
You need to get acquainted with Gods priest hood on this link.
http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-hebrews-7.h...

You prophet Muhammad was a bull-shitter.
Muslims are screwed by rejecting Jesus as Gods Son.
I hope you enjoy going to hell when you die Muslim.
My calling you a dumb ass is because you are a dumb ass Muslim.
you got your head up Muhammads ass.
read this link.
http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-hebrews-7.h...
Eric

United States

#695 Apr 19, 2013
Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
In Bible it said sometimes that Father is greater than he and sometimes that he and the father are one, people really need to decide and choose which statement will be the correct one.
Trinitarians do not believe Jesus is the Father. Are you quoting John 10:30 to try and show that Jesus is equal to the Father? Well that isn’t true, since the Gospel of John shows the opposite, in fact if we quote one verse back we read:
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
This is verse 29, it comes right before verse 30, and in verse 29 Jesus says the Father is greater than ALL, this obviously includes Jesus since he is not the Father. So therefore how to Christians try and assume that this verse shows equality between Jesus and the Father is beyond me, just a verse before it Jesus says the Father is greater than everyone!
In fact this is not the first time that Jesus says the Father is greater than him, he does it again later:
28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I (John 14:28)
So here we once again have Jesus claiming the Father is greater than him, so how is Jesus equal to the Father when Jesus says the contrary? Now Christians have come up with a way of trying to explain this verse off, they say that Jesus was talking as a man here, that as a man the Father is greater than him, they try and say that the Father meant he is greater than Jesus in rank and authority and not in essence.
However so what did Jesus mean in John 10 when Jesus said the Father is greater than ALL? Jesus placed himself in the category of ALL people, so therefore the Christian response will not work for John 10:29. It must be said though that the Christian response does not work for John chapter 14:28 neither, because the Christian argues from silence and is arguing something they have yet to prove. Christians cannot prove that Jesus has 2 natures, they can never get a single quote from the lips of Jesus saying I am man and Divine, that I have 2 natures and I gave one up and took on the man nature, this is non-existent, so therefore the response is from silence provided with no proof or a solid basis.
1-The fact is the Bible shows that the Father is greater than Jesus in essence, the Father is all-knowing and Jesus is not.
2-The Father gives Jesus everything from miracle to doctrine.
3-Jesus begs the Father to save him, obviously showing that life and death is controlled by the Father and NOT Jesus.
For all these arguments the Christian will say as man Jesus is not all-knowing, as man Jesus receives things from the Father, however so I will kindly ask the Christian bring this proof from the words of Jesus, you shall never be able to do it, this doctrine is an invention and not something to be found from Jesus.
So therefore in conclusion, John 10:30 proves nothing in support of the divinity of Jesus, it does not show equality, since Jesus made it clear that the Father is greater than him, so therefore Jesus is not equal with the Father.
what about this then Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. If Jesus is not God than why would the father be glorified when people are bowing the knee to this "false Messiah?" And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Lu 20:43 Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Lu 20:44 David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? It sounds like Jesus is calling himself God there to me
abba

Mesquite, NV

#697 Apr 19, 2013
Nandrelle wrote:
<quoted text>
lol you said Jesus was always God! I said he was a messanger of God NOT God himself!!
Whats the problem..try thinking more!
than y do chritans say jesus is allah(swa)?stupad persin.worship a cross or a man? witch 1?

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#698 Apr 19, 2013
abba wrote:
<quoted text>than y do chritans say jesus is allah(swa)?stupad persin.worship a cross or a man? witch 1?
You don't know because you are not learned from the Bible.
You are a dumb bell.
What do you know about the Levitical priest hood?
And about Gods Altar in heaven?

You know nothing you are a Muslim dumb bell.
http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-hebrews-7.h...
Lily

Bristol, UK

#699 Apr 19, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text> what about this then Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. If Jesus is not God than why would the father be glorified when people are bowing the knee to this "false Messiah?" And David himself saith in the book of Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Lu 20:43 Till I make thine enemies thy footstool.
Lu 20:44 David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son? It sounds like Jesus is calling himself God there to me
I would like to ask one simple question to you. Where is the original bible in its own language? It's your decision brother whether you want to believe in Prophet Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) or you want follow Paul. I have already mentioned clear evidence from your Bible which you can't decline. Two contradictory statements cannot be true at the same time. I am not saying that you should follow my religion. All I want to say that God gives us brain. You can research your own. You have already mentioned some verses which are contradicting with the previous one. Now I am mentioning below some more contradiction.

VERSES THAT CONTRADICT THEMSELVES

Genesis 6:3 and Genesis 11:11 - Life limited to 120 years?
Genesis 32:30 and Exodus 33:20 - Jacob's life was preserved?
Exodus 4:22 and Jeremiah 31:9 - Who was God's firstborn?
Numbers 23:19 and Genesis 6:6-7 - Does God repent or not?
2 Samuel 6:23 and 2 Samuel 21:8 - Did Michael have children?
2 Samuel 8:4 and 1 Chronicles 18:4 - 700 or 7000 horsemen?
2 Samuel 8:9-10 and 1 Chronicles 18:9-10 - Toi or Tou? Hadadezer or Hadarezer? Joram or Hadoram?
2 Samuel 10:18 and 1 Chronicles 19:18 - 700 or 7000 charioteers? 40,000 horsemen or footmen? Captain's name?
2 Samuel 24:1 and 1 Chronicles 21:1 - Who provoked David?
2 Samuel 24:9 and 1 Chronicles 21:5 - 800,000 or 100,000?
2 Samuel 24:13 and 1 Chronicles 21:11-12 - 7 or 3 years?
1 Kings 4:26 and 2 Chronicles 9:25 - 40,000 or 4,000 stalls?
1 Kings 5:15-16 and 2 Chronicles 2:2 - 3300 or 3600?
1 Kings 7:26 and 2 Chronicles 4:5 - 2000 or 3000 baths?
2 Kings 8:26 and 2 Chronicles 22:2 - 22 or 42 years old?
2 Kings 24:8 and 2 Chronicles 36:9 - 18 or 8 years old? 3 months or 3 months and 10 days?
Ezra 2:65 and Nehemiah 7:67 - 200 or 245 singers?
Matthew 1:12 and Luke 3:27 - Who was Salathiel's father?
Matthew 1:16 and Luke 3:23 - Who was Joseph's father?
Matthew 9:18 and Mark 5:22-23 - Dead or not?
Matthew 10:5-10 and Mark 6:7-8 - Bring a staff or not?
Matthew 15:21-22 and Mark 7:24-26 - The woman was of Canaan or Greece?
Matthew 20:29-30 and Mark 10:46-47 - One or two beggars?
Matthew 21:1-2 and Mark 11:1-2 - What happened to the ass?
Matthew 26:74-75 and Mark 14:72 - Before the cock crow once or twice?
Matthew 27:5 and Acts 1:18 - How did Judas die?
John 3:16 and Psalms 2:7 - Only begotten son?
John 5:31 and John 8:14 - Was Jesus' record true or not?
Lily

Bristol, UK

#700 Apr 19, 2013
VERSES THAT CONTRADICT THE TRINITARIAN DOCTRINE AND/OR THE DIVINITY OF JESUS

Exodus 33:20, John 1:18, 1 Timothy 6:16 - No one saw God.
Isaiah 42:8 - Do not praise and worship images.
Isaiah 45:1 - "Anointed" does not mean "God".
Matthew 14:23, 19:13, 26:39, 27:46, 26:42-44 - Jesus prayed.
Matthew 24:36 - Jesus was not all-knowing.
Matthew 26:39 - Jesus and God had different wills.
Matthew 28:18 - All power was given to Jesus.
Mark 1:35, 6:46, 14:35-36 - Jesus prayed.
Mark 10:17-18 and Luke 18:18-19 - Jesus denied divinity.
Mark 12:28-29 - God is one.
Mark 13:32 - Jesus was not all-knowing.
Mark 16:19 and Luke 22:69 - Jesus at the right hand of God.
Luke 3:21, 5:16, 6:12, 9:18, 9:28, 11:1-4, 22:41 - Jesus prayed.
Luke 4:18, 9:48, 10:16 - Jesus was from God.
Luke 7:16, 13:33, 24:18-19 - Jesus was a prophet.
Luke 10:21 - Jesus gave thanks.
Luke 23:46 - The spirit of Jesus was commended to God.
John 4:19 - Jesus was a prophet.
John 4:23-24 - Worship in spirit and truth.
John 14:28 - One was greater than the other.
John 5:19, 5:30, 7:28, 8:28 - Jesus was helpless.
John 5:20 - The Father showed the son.
John 5:30 and 6:38 - Jesus and God had different wills.
John 5:31-32 - Jesus' witness was not true.
John 6:11 and 11:41-42 - Jesus gave thanks.
John 6:32 - The Father was the provider, not the son.
John 7:29, 16:5, 16:28 - Jesus was from God.
John 7:16, 12:49, 14:24, 17:14 - Jesus' words were not his.
John 8:42 - Jesus did not come of himself.
John 10:29 - "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all."
John 14:1 - Jesus said, "...believe also in me."
John 14:16, 17:1, 17:9, 17:11, 17:15 - Jesus prayed.
John 14:31 and 15:10 - Jesus followed commands.
John 17:6-8 - "I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me."
John 20:17 - Jesus had a god.
Acts 2:22 - Jesus was "a man approved of God."
Romans 8:34 - Jesus was an intercessor.
1 Timothy 2:5 - Jesus was the mediator between God and humans.
Lily

Bristol, UK

#701 Apr 19, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You don't know because you are not learned from the Bible.
You are a dumb bell.
What do you know about the Levitical priest hood?
And about Gods Altar in heaven?
You know nothing you are a Muslim dumb bell.
http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-hebrews-7.h...
And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true.
(Al-Quran 2:23)

But if ye cannot- and of a surety ye cannot- then fear the Fire whose fuel is men and stones,- which is prepared for those who reject Faith.
(Al-Quran 2:24)
Lily

Bristol, UK

#702 Apr 19, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>You don't know because you are not learned from the Bible.
You are a dumb bell.
What do you know about the Levitical priest hood?
And about Gods Altar in heaven?
You know nothing you are a Muslim dumb bell.
http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-hebrews-7.h...
A/c to your bible this is another challenge for you:

The Bible has a scientific test how to identify a true believer. It is mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Ch. No.16, Verse No.17 and 18 - It says that…‘There will be signs for true believers and among the signs - In my name they shall cast out devils, they shall speak foreign tongues, new tongues, they shall take up serpents - And if they drink deadly poison, they shall not be harmed - And when they place their hand over the sick, they shall be cured.’

1st Challenge is from Allah: Produce a sura (verse) like Quran verses if you think that you are so true.
2nd Challenge is from your bible: Confirmatory test

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#703 Apr 20, 2013
Lily wrote:
<quoted text>
And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call your witnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) are true.
(Al-Quran 2:23)
But if ye cannot- and of a surety ye cannot- then fear the Fire whose fuel is men and stones,- which is prepared for those who reject Faith.
(Al-Quran 2:24)
Who do you think wrote those verse in the Quran you dumb ass?
They are the words of your evil prophet Muhammad, not the words of God.
You are a Muslim scum bag that expresses Muhammad's evil religion of Islam as being in perfect harmony the human race, while there is overwhelming evidence against the Muslims that its religion is an evil conspiracy against the human race.

The of the Muslims is evil and is filled with death and destruction against the humanity of the human race.

Persecution of Ex-Muslims by Country:

Afghanistan • Algeria • Australia • Austria • Bangladesh • Cameroon • Canada • Chad • Comoros Islands • Denmark • Egypt • Ethiopia • France • Germany • Ghana • Greece • India • Indonesia • Iran • Iraq • Italy • Jordan • Kenya • Kosovo • Kuwait • Kyrgyzstan • Libya • Malaysia • Maldives • Morocco • Netherlands • Nigeria • Norway • Oman • Pakistan • Palestinian Authority area • Philippines • Saudi Arabia • Somalia • Spain • Sudan • Sweden • Tanzania • Tunisia • Turkey • Turkmenistan • Uganda • United Kingdom • United States • Uzbekistan • Yemen


Islam is the only major world religion that does not allow its followers the freedom to change faith. According to Shari'ah laws (extracted from the Qur'an and Sunnah), apostates of Islam must be sentenced to death. This has led to ex-Muslims often being persecuted, abused and killed. This treatment of apostates is not simply down to the issue of state-enforced religion as some may suggest. As you will find out on this page, the violence or threats of violence against apostates in the Muslim world usually derives not from government authorities but from family members and individuals from the Islamic communities themselves, who operate very often with impunity from the government. This point is further emphasised by the persecution and murder of ex-Muslims which has now become evident in many Western non-Muslim societies

The religion of the Muslims is the evil in the world.

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