Jesus is not God

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#420 Apr 10, 2013
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text>Salaamz & LMAO Crosstianity is the disease!...Holy-Islaam is the C U R E! Cheerz
The reason why Jesus the perfect sacrifice was raised to life again on the third day is found in the word 'perfect.'

Animal sacrifices were imperfect, they just pointed to the perfect one. That is the reason why they had to be offered again and again. That is also the reason why they were not raised to life again. However, Christ being the perfect, sinless sacrifice only had to die once. Since he paid the punishment for sin, namely death by his own death, the latter no longer became a reality!

That is precisely why God raised Jesus to live again. This profound truth is expressed in 1 Corinthians 15:54-57:

'When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true:'Death has been swallowed up in victory.''Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?'

The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.'

Jesus defeats the death that came as a result of sin! He as the firstfruit has been raised to life therefore. Those who believe in his perfect sacrifice will follow his example once they die physically. The following verses, again quoted from 1 Corinthians 15 confirm this good news:

'But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.'(Verses 20-22)

Here are some more verses that speak about the same truth:

'Jesus was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.'(Romans 4:25)

'For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him.
The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God. In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness.
For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace?
By no means! Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey - whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?(Romans 6:9-16)

Muslims rejection of Jesus means:
Muslims die in their sins and go to hell.
Muslims are idiots, they laugh all the while they are going to hell.
Polo

London, UK

#421 Apr 11, 2013
look wrote:
And you people calling yourselves "muslim" and acting as if you are slaves to God but are not, do you even accept any scripture that was revealed before the Qur'an?
Remember this, the one who says "you fool" is in danger of the hellfire.
Matthew 5:22
ButI tell U that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject 2 judgment.Again,anyone who says 2 a brother or sister,'Raca,' is answerable to the court.And anyone who says,'You fool!'will be in danger of the fire of hell.
Peace be on You
First of all u have 2 look at all the anwers of your fellow Christians They do not have any good word coming from their mouth
the insults they through at Islam And Its Prophet.as a Christians can you do that?We Muslims we cannot do the same because we believe that Abraham,David salomon,Moses,Jesus(Peace be on all of Them) Etc.were all Prophets of God. Allah revealed in the Quran:
Say:we believe in Allah and that which is revealed to us; we believe in what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and the tribes; to Moses and Jesus and the other prophets, We make no distinction between any of them, and to God we have surrendered ourselves. Quran Chapter 2, The Cow, verse 136. i.e. in full submission and obedience.

Prophet Muhammad(Peace be upon him) explained his mission in the following words: The comparison between me and the preceding prophets is similar to a group of people who took part in building a house and completed it but for an empty space for one block or brick.Onlookers admired it and said in astonishment:'What a beautiful mansion, if it were not for the place of the missing brick' I have been this brick and I am the last or the seal of prophets. Sahih Bukhari P.18.Muhammad then said:I am one brick of it.
In this analogy the Prophet does not refer to himself as the whole house but as a part of this structure of Prophethood. Thus,he draws the attention of his nation and the followers of previous prophets that the true glory of the people of faith is only through cooperation and integration.

As if to confirm this, Allah says in the Quran:

Verily,this Brotherhood of yours is a single Brotherhood, and I am your Lord and Cherisher. Therefore serve Me,(and no other) Quran Sura 21, The Prophets, verse 92.

Islam does not identify itself with a single person or race, rather it is the recognition and submission to Allah. Thus, the mere faith in Muhammad does not suffice. Islam demands the belief in the great caravan of prophets of which Abraham is the vanguard. His offspring includes Isaac, Ishmael, Jacob, Joseph, David, Solomon, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad (peace be upon them all). They are the teachers and examples to mankind whose stations were solely assigned by Allah. Thus, to attribute sinful behaviour to any of them, which even ordinary people would be ashamed of committing, would be to question the wisdom of Allah in choosing such people. Hence, Islam emphatically maintains the high moral and ethical status of such men. Furthermore, to deny or reject any of the prophets would be the abandonment of faith. Hence, preserving the integrity of the prophethood and its lineage paves the way for cooperation of the people of faith.
The Quran says:
Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds. Quran Sura 1, The Opening, verse 1.

Thus, Allah does not identify Himself solely with the Muslims, the Arabs, or the Semitic tribes. He is the Lord of the worlds. Therefore, whoever turns to Allah in love and worship understands that there are other people of faith with whom he has to cooperate in order 2 fulfill the objectives of Allah and abide by His commands.In this connection, Allah not only counsels man about his good behaviour regarding others, but cautions him as well:
Say to My servants that they should (only) say those things that are best: for Satan does sow dissensions among them: for Satan is to man an avowed enemy. Quran Sura 17, The Children of Israel, verse 53.

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#422 Apr 11, 2013
ANSWER #1: Explanation From John 1:1-3,14:

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made… And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the father, full of grace and truth.”

This part of the Holy Injil (New Testament) tells us the eternal Word of God, which in the beginning of creation was “with God,” also “was God.” Everything God created, He created by saying,“Be!” which means He created everything by Himself, by His own Word.

God's Word is not another God; God's Word is God's communication of Himself. Can God exist without His Word? Obviously not. Was there ever a time when God's Word did not exist? Of course not. This is like my speech or communication, which is a distinct entity of my being, but certainly is not a second being separate from me. So God is One, and part of that oneness is His Word, which comes out from Him and communicates Himself to us. In Arabic Jesus is called,“Kalamat Ullah,” the Word of God.

He came out from God and came into the world as a human being.

God in His sovereignty chose to reveal Himself to us through His Word – His Word, who became one of us and lived among us. In comparing Jesus Christ with the prophet Adam, the Bible tells us,“The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven.”(1 Corinthians 15:47)

After 33 years on this earth, when the Lord Jesus the Messiah was about to return back to heaven, he himself indicated he had existed in Almighty God from before creation:“I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do, and now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.”(John 17:4,5)
Isreality

Pittsfield, MA

#423 Apr 11, 2013
"The Father is greater than I"
"The Father is greater than I"
"The Father is greater than I"

What do you Christians not understand of these words? It's as clear as clear can be...
Jesus said he is not God.
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#424 Apr 11, 2013
look wrote:
Is there any "fact" in the bible that the followers of Christ called themselves "christians"?
ACTS 11:26 WYC

and when he had found him, he led to Antioch. And all a year they lived there in the church, and taught much people, so that the disciples were named first at Antioch CHRISTIAN men.

ACTS 26:28 WYC

And Agrippa said to Paul, In little thing thou counselest me to be made a CHRISTIAN man.[Soothly Agrippa said to Paul, A little thou counselest me for to be made a christian man.]

1 TIMOTHY 6:2 WYC

'And they that have faithful lords, despise them not, for they be brethren; but more serve they, for they be faithful and loved, which be partners of beneficence. Teach thou these things, and admonish thou these things.[+Forsooth, they that have faithful, or CHRISTIAN, lords, despise them not, for they be brethren; but more serve they them, for they be faithful and loved, the which be partners of beneficence, or good-doing. These things teach thou, and these things admonish thou.]

1 PETER 4:16 WYC

but if he suffer as a CHRISTIAN man, shame he not, but glorify he God in this name.
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#425 Apr 11, 2013
Isreality wrote:
"The Father is greater than I"
"The Father is greater than I"
"The Father is greater than I"
What do you Christians not understand of these words? It's as clear as clear can be...
Jesus said he is not God.
The doctrine of the incarnation says that the second Person of the Trinity took on human flesh. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, Jesus was fully human and “made lower than the angels.” However, Jesus is fully divine, too.

By taking on human nature, Jesus did not relinquish His divine nature—God cannot stop being God. How do we reconcile the fact that the second Person of the Trinity is fully divine yet fully human and by definition “lower than the angels”? The answer to that question can be found in Philippians 2:5-11.

When the second Person of the Trinity took on human form, something amazing occurred. Christ “made himself nothing.” This phrase has generated more ink than almost any other phrase in the Bible. In essence, what it means is that Jesus voluntarily relinquished the prerogative of freely exercising His divine attributes and subjected Himself to the will of the Father while on earth.

Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Father-greater-I....

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#426 Apr 11, 2013
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text>Salaamz & LMAO Crosstianity is the disease!...Holy-Islaam is the C U R E! Cheerz
Here are your brothers raping and killing a young girl.
Read the story then watch the video.
You will probably come in pants watching this "Rabbeen"
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/
look

Corona, CA

#427 Apr 11, 2013
5:17

They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.

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#428 Apr 11, 2013
look wrote:
5:17
They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.
You are insane.
The Muslim Allah is no god.
He is the devil.
look

Corona, CA

#429 Apr 11, 2013
@the user using the name "jesus is":

NIV

Acts 11:26

and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.

-it says they were first called Christians there, it does not say they called themselves Christians. People can call people whatever they wanna call them if God allows that.

Acts 26:28-29
28 Then Agrippa said to Paul,“Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?”

29 Paul replied,“Short time or long—I pray to God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains.”

Paul did not answer Agrippa by verifying that he himself even called himself a Christian, rather that he prayed that Agrippa and those listening may become what he is.

In 1 Timothy 6, the part you included that is in brackets seems to be a notion that someone edited in, in order to make it seem like only "Christians" are believers.

1 Peter 4
16 However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.

Paul is not naming the addressee as a christian, notice the word "if" is used. But look at it in this context: Is it not better to suffer bearing the name "Christian" rather than bearing the name "Pagan".

Now stop persisting in your unbelief, and serve the one True God who has no partners.
look

Corona, CA

#430 Apr 11, 2013
Shamma, you are crazy.

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#431 Apr 11, 2013
look wrote:
@the user using the name "jesus is":
NIV
Acts 11:26
and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.
-it says they were first called Christians there, it does not say they called themselves Christians. People can call people whatever they wanna call them if God allows that.
Acts 26:28-29
28 Then Agrippa said to Paul,“Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?”
29 Paul replied,“Short time or long—I pray to God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains.”
Paul did not answer Agrippa by verifying that he himself even called himself a Christian, rather that he prayed that Agrippa and those listening may become what he is.
In 1 Timothy 6, the part you included that is in brackets seems to be a notion that someone edited in, in order to make it seem like only "Christians" are believers.
1 Peter 4
16 However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.
Paul is not naming the addressee as a christian, notice the word "if" is used. But look at it in this context: Is it not better to suffer bearing the name "Christian" rather than bearing the name "Pagan".
Now stop persisting in your unbelief, and serve the one True God who has no partners.
Your Allah god is crazy.
Your Allah god is Muhammad the crazy jinn devil worshiper.
Look at you Muslim, you are uncivilized like your prophet Muhammad.
Your Quran has made you insane.
You are working your way to the fires of hell.
look

Corona, CA

#432 Apr 11, 2013
5 lies in one post, you religious about lying or something?
cumi ciki

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#433 Apr 12, 2013
-Jesus was/is not God-
_God was/is not Jesus_

understand?
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#434 Apr 12, 2013
Shamma wrote:
<quoted text>The reason why Jesus the perfect sacrifice was raised to life again on the third day is found in the word 'perfect.'
Animal sacrifices were imperfect, they just pointed to the perfect one. That is the reason why they had to be offered again and again. That is also the reason why they were not raised to life again. However, Christ being the perfect, sinless sacrifice only had to die once. Since he paid the punishment for sin, namely death by his own death, the latter no longer became a reality!
That is precisely why God raised Jesus to live again. This profound truth is expressed in 1 Corinthians 15:54-57:
'When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true:'Death has been swallowed up in victory.''Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?'
The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.'
Jesus defeats the death that came as a result of sin! He as the firstfruit has been raised to life therefore. Those who believe in his perfect sacrifice will follow his example once they die physically. The following verses, again quoted from 1 Corinthians 15 confirm this good news:
'But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.'(Verses 20-22)
Here are some more verses that speak about the same truth:
'Jesus was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification.'(Romans 4:25)
'For we know that since Christ was raised from the dead, he cannot die again; death no longer has mastery over him.
The death he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life he lives, he lives to God. In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus.
Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. Do not offer the parts of your body to sin, as instruments of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God, as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer the parts of your body to him as instruments of righteousness.
For sin shall not be your master, because you are not under law, but under grace. What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace?
By no means! Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey - whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?(Romans 6:9-16)
Muslims rejection of Jesus means:
Muslims die in their sins and go to hell.
Muslims are idiots, they laugh all the while they are going to hell.
Salaamz Shamma & Salutations. Great post yours,and quite informative.However I believe it holds subtle error.There is only ONE real Saviour,Thats God Almighty.Knowing the evil that men do He preparred the believer with this wonderful tool as an equalizer.Its called Repentence.Done correctly we are absolved of our sin,and our soul vouchsafed .Quite simple,and quite effective.LOL! CheerZ

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#435 Apr 12, 2013
Rabbeen Al Jihad wrote:
<quoted text>Salaamz Shamma & Salutations. Great post yours,and quite informative.However I believe it holds subtle error.There is only ONE real Saviour,Thats God Almighty.Knowing the evil that men do He preparred the believer with this wonderful tool as an equalizer.Its called Repentence.Done correctly we are absolved of our sin,and our soul vouchsafed .Quite simple,and quite effective.LOL! CheerZ
But what God are you talking About?
Allah or Jesus.
video-Jesus owns Muhammad.
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#436 Apr 12, 2013
look wrote:
<quoted text>@the user using the name "jesus is":
NIV
Acts 11:26
and when he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year Barnabas and Saul met with the church and taught great numbers of people. The disciples were called Christians first at Antioch.
-it says they were first called Christians there, it does not say they called themselves Christians. People can call people whatever they wanna call them if God allows that.
IT DOESN'T SAY THEY COMPLAINED EITHER!
look wrote:
<quoted text>@Acts 26:28-29
28 Then Agrippa said to Paul,“Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?”
29 Paul replied,“Short time or long—I pray to God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains.”
Paul did not answer Agrippa by verifying that he himself even called himself a Christian, rather that he prayed that Agrippa and those listening may become what he is.
Paul never asked agrippa what he meant by "Christian"!!!!!!!!!
look wrote:
<quoted text>@In 1 Timothy 6, the part you included that is in brackets seems to be a notion that someone edited in, in order to make it seem like only "Christians" are believers.
LIKE EVERY OTHER "IT WAS EDITED" CLAIM, YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE!
look wrote:
<quoted text>@1 Peter 4
16 However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name.
Paul is not naming the addressee as a christian,
"If, as a Christian, you suffer..."

YOU HAVE FAILED MISERABLY HERE!!!!!
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#437 Apr 12, 2013
look wrote:
<quoted text>
Now stop persisting in your unbelief, and serve the one True God who has no partners.
LOOK, I NEARLY DIED IN 1987, HAD A 'NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE', REMEMBER BEING SENT BACK BY SOMEONE, who is guiding me to the right beliefs AND IT IS NOT ISLAM!!!!!!!!
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#438 Apr 12, 2013
THE QURAN INSTRUCTS MUSLIMS TO COLLECT SOULS FOR SATAN! God wants to save them!!!!!

The Quran implies that God is a deceiver who fooled eyewitnesses into believing Jesus died and forgot to confess to his "Muslim followers" at the time, which would have stopped Christinity from forming.

I HATE ISLAM!!!!!!!!
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#439 Apr 12, 2013
ISLAM THE RELIGION OF PEACE, who's goal is to send souls to satan because they were fooled into believing God wants to increase hell:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

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