Jesus is not God
TAMMYSTEN

United States

#27 Mar 22, 2013
Oh Tommy!!! You are so inflectual. Gash-Gash.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

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#28 Mar 22, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
Jesus not God.....nor son of God
Christian logic = cancel your mind and blindly live the lie
Agreed Egyptian lad
NASTYSTEN

United States

#29 Mar 22, 2013
What's in your wallet? Damn, termite turds.

Since: Feb 13

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#30 Mar 24, 2013
Nandrelle wrote:
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I cant prove that he did nor that he didnt do it...Like I said you rely on faith!
faith is all i need.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#31 Mar 24, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
... Christian logic = cancel your mind and blindly live the lie
More islamic "truth" from Tom "Taqiyya" Fontaine aka Egyptian Lad aka Timesten aka Isreality ....
Nandrelle

Saint Louis, MO

#32 Mar 25, 2013
pharaohxavier wrote:
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faith is all i need.
Good for you!

Since: Feb 13

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#33 Mar 25, 2013
Nandrelle wrote:
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Good for you!
stop replying
Nandrelle

Saint Louis, MO

#34 Mar 25, 2013
pharaohxavier wrote:
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stop replying
or what??

Since: Feb 13

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#35 Mar 25, 2013
Nandrelle wrote:
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or what??
Youll be stoned
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#36 Mar 26, 2013
Timesten wrote:
Yes Rabbeen if a man is God and God is a man, how many Gods can their be?
Salaamz Most venerable Timesten.I must appollogize for the rude lateness of my post. Ive been off base for a few days. Here,s a fun one.Ive found a list of some 10-12 messiahs(Like jesus)with the exact same "messiah-Criteria'!LOL. Prohecied to come.Born of a virgin.Were each child prodigies.Did miracles.gathered 12 followers.Were ratted out by their closest confidant.Were crucified.And rose from the dead! Way back when I had more research time(1962) I could only find TWO-OTHERS (besides Jesus),and left it at that. Until I accidently ran accross the website. If you want to search this out yourself great,If not Ill gather the evidence and shoot it over to you when time constraints permit. CheerZ
Nandrelle

Saint Louis, MO

#37 Mar 27, 2013
pharaohxavier wrote:
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Youll be stoned
Whose going to stone me?? You!!

How about I put those stones in your ass you religious brainless bafoon!

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#38 Mar 27, 2013
Nandrelle wrote:
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Whose going to stone me?? You!!
How about I put those stones in your ass you religious brainless bafoon!
pointless insults get educated then maybe youll be more civilized
Nandrelle

Saint Louis, MO

#39 Mar 27, 2013
pharaohxavier wrote:
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pointless insults get educated then maybe youll be more civilized
As if you are any better with your religious BS!
Asif Iqbal

Dallas, TX

#40 Mar 27, 2013
Timesten wrote:
The Father is greater than I
http://bible.cc/john/14-28.htm
John 14
12“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.13“Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.14“If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
15“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
It couldn't be any clearer than that....
Jesus IS NOT God
Wake up
Jesus, Moses and Mohammad are the favourite Messengers of God, and every human being is dutified to respect them and follow their teachings in their lives.

But Jesus never ever said that he is the son of God. The original Bible which Jesus brought was destroyed by the Jews and Paul wrote the Bible 200 years after Jesus left us. Then there were 4 versions of that Bible.

Please check if Jesus ever said that he is the son of God.

Islam is the only truest religion that can save mankind from hell.
Read the Quraan with an open mind and heart.
Accept Islam today.
God Bless you and the whole mankind
polo

London, UK

#41 Mar 27, 2013
Jesus is wrote:
JOHN 17:20-23, Jesus prays for his disciples:
"that they may all be one just as as You Father are in me and I in You.... that, they may be one, just as WE ALSO ARE ONE."
"....I GO TO THE FATHER....." I join back to God!!!!!
fk you are stupid!
IF CHRISTIANS EDITED THE GOSPELS AND IT MEANS WHAT YOU THINK, WHY DIDN'T THEY EDIT IT OUT!!!!!!!
that would mean we have to worshipped not 3 in one but 14 in one

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#42 Mar 27, 2013
Can't Muslims handle the fact Jesus is real.
polo

London, UK

#43 Mar 27, 2013
Jesus And God:
1. One is the Creator; the other is a Creation.
2. One knows all; the other doesn't
3. One was visible; the other wasn't
4. One 'exists' eternally; the other didn't
5. One becomes hungry; the other doesn't
6. One was tempted; the other cannot be tempted
7. One needed sleep; the other doesn't
8. One prayed to the other
9. One increased; the other doesn't change
10. One was a man; the other is Spirit
11. One was given authority; the other has power

Moses(Pbuh) said "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord." (Deuteronomy 6:4)
It was repeated word-for-word approximately 1500 years later by Jesus(Pbuh) when he said:
"...The first of all the commandments is,
Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord ." (Mark 12:29)

"...Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve." (Luke 4:8)
“One of the teachers of the law came and noticed them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him,‘Of all the commandments, which is the most important?’
‘The most important one,’ answered Jesus,‘is this:“Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.(Mark 12:29) Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.”(Mark 12:30)
The second is this:”Love your neighbour as yourself.” There is no commandment greater than these.(Mark 12:31)
No one can serve two masters; for a slave will either hate the one and love the other..." Matthew 6 : 24
Abraham, Moses, and Jesus (peace be upon them) all spoke about this one God and worshipped Him alone. In the Gospel According to Matthew, 26:39 (King James Version) we are told that Jesus
"fell on his face, and prayed" to God.
And in the Gospel According to John, 17:3, Jesus declares that the one he prayed to is the only true God. 3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.(John 17:3)
“‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”(Luke 4:8)

“My food is to do the will of Him who sent me …”
(John 4:34)
“I can of myself do nothing … I do not seek my own will but the will of the Father who sent me.”(John 5:30)
“For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will,but the will of Him who sent me.”(John 6:38)
“My doctrine is not mine, but His who sent me.”(John 7:16)
“I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God.”(John 20:17)

Muhammad(Pbuh) came along approximately 600 years later, bringing the same message again: "And your God is One God: There is no God but He,..." Quran (2:163)

"...I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore, serve Me (and no other)..."Quran 21:92

The most concise definition of God in islam is given in the four verses of surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the quran:
“Say: He is Allah, The One and Only.
“Allah, The Eternal, Absolute.
“He begets not, nor is He Begotten.
And there is none like unto Him.(Quran Chapter 112)

“There is nothing like Him (He is beyond all comparison), and He is the All-Hearing, the All-Seeing”.(42:11)
In the Qur'aan Allah clearly states:
"For We assuredly sent amongst every people a prophet,(with the command) worship me and avoid false gods " (Soorsh Al-Nahl 16:36)

Thus, the final Prophet of Islam is reported to have said, "Anyone who says:
There is no god but Allah and dies holding that (belief) will enter paradise".

"Verily Allah will not forgive the joining of partners with Him, but He may forgive (sins) less than that for whom so ever He wishes" Quran (Soorah An- Nisaa 4:48 and 116)

In Chapter As-Saff (61):6, God quotes Jesus as follows:
“And [remember] when Jesus, son of Mary, said:
‘O Children of Israel, I am the messenger of Allaah sent to you, confirming the Torah [which came] before me.”
Quran 61:6
polo

London, UK

#44 Mar 27, 2013
There are many verses in the New Testament supporting the messengership / prophethood of Jesus(Peace be upon him). The following are only a few:
In Matthew 21:11, the people of his time are recorded as referring to Jesus (Peace be upon him) as a prophet:
“And the crowds said,‘This is the prophet Jesus of Nazareth of Galilee.’”(Matt 21:11)

In Mark, 6:4, it is stated that Jesus(Peace be upon him) referred to himself as a prophet:
“And Jesus said to them,‘A prophet is not without honour, except in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.’”
In the following verses, Jesus(Peace be upon him) is referred to as having been sent as a messenger is sent. In Matthew 10:40, Jesus was purported to have said:
“He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.”(Matthew 10:40)
"Nevertheless I (Jesus) must walk to day, and tomorrow, and the [day] following: for it cannot be that a Prophet perish out of Jerusalem." (Luke 13:33)
"And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A Prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house." Matthew 13:57 also in Mark 6:4, Luke 4:24, John 4:43
Jesus refers to himself as a Prophet, Others also called Jesus a Prophet but Never called his disciples "A group of Prophets"
Jesus was called a Prophet by others:
"And when he would have put him to death, he feared the multitude, because they counted him as a prophet." Matt 14:5
"And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee." Matthew 21:11
"But when they sought to lay hands on him, they feared the multitude, because they took him for a prophet." Matt 21:46
"And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:" Luke 24:19
"The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet." John 4:19
"Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did, said, This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world." John 6:14
If these statements were inaccurate, why didn’t Jesus correct them? Why didn’t he define his divinity if, that is, he truly was divine?
When the woman at the well stated,“Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet’”(John 4:19), why didn’t he thank her for her lowly impression, but explain there was more to his essence than prophethood? Or was there?
Jesus Christ, a mere man? Could it be? A good part of the religiously introspective world wonders,“Why not?”
Acts 2:22 records Jesus as “Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested by God to you by miracles, wonders, and signs which God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves also know.”
Jesus himself is recorded as having said,
“But now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God …”(John 8:40).
Strikingly, a similar quote is found in the Holy Qur’an:
“He [Jesus] said:‘I am indeed a servant of Allah: He has given me Revelation and made me a prophet’”(Quran 19:30)
So was Jesus a“servant of Allah (i.e.,servant of God ) According to the Bible, Yes. Or, at least, that is what we understand from Matthew 12:18:“Behold! My servant whom I have chosen …” Furthermore, Acts of the Apostles traces the growth of the early church for the first thirty years following Jesus’ ministry, but nowhere in Acts did Jesus’ disciples ever call Jesus “God.” Rather, they referred to Jesus as a man and God’s servant.
In John 17:3, Jesus is also quoted as saying:“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”(see also,John 4:34, 5:30, 7:16 &28, 11:42, 13:16, 14:24).
“He [Jesus] said:‘I am indeed a servant of Allah: He has given me Revelation and made me a prophet’”(Quran 19:30)
In Chapter al-Maa’idah,(5): 75, God points out that Jesus (Peace be upon him) ate food, which is a human act, obviously not befitting to God.
(Quraan 5:75)
Nandrelle

Saint Louis, MO

#45 Mar 27, 2013
Carchar king wrote:
Can't Muslims handle the fact Jesus is real.
Jesus might be real but him being 'son of God' or 'God' or doing miracles or what ever Christianity says is all based on faith and what people say!

I find it hard to believe anything religion is saying!

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#46 Mar 27, 2013
polo wrote:
Jesus And God:
1. One is the Creator; the other is a Creation.
2. One knows all; the other doesn't
3. One was visible; the other wasn't
4. One 'exists' eternally; the other didn't
5. One becomes hungry; the other doesn't
6. One was tempted; the other cannot be tempted
7. One needed sleep; the other doesn't
8. One prayed to the other
9. One increased; the other doesn't change
10. One was a man; the other is Spirit
11. One was given authority; the other has power
Moses(Pbuh) said "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord." (Deuteronomy 6:4)
It was repeated word-for-word approximately 1500 years later by Jesus(Pbuh) when he said:
"...The first of all the commandments is,
Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord ." (Mark 12:29)
"...Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him only shalt thou serve." (Luke 4:8)
“One of the teachers of the law came and noticed them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him,‘Of all the commandments, which is the most important?’
‘The most important one,’ answered Jesus,‘is this:“Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.(Mark 12:29) Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.”(Mark 12:30)
The second is this:”Love your neighbour as yourself.” There is no commandment greater than these.(Mark 12:31)
No one can serve two masters; for a slave will either hate the one and love the other..." Matthew 6 : 24
Abraham, Moses, and Jesus (peace be upon them) all spoke about this one God and worshipped Him alone. In the Gospel According to Matthew, 26:39 (King James Version) we are told that Jesus
"fell on his face, and prayed" to God.
And in the Gospel According to John, 17:3, Jesus declares that the one he prayed to is the only true God. 3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.(John 17:3)
“‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’”(Luke 4:8)
“My food is to do the will of Him who sent me …”
(John 4:34)
“I can of myself do nothing … I do not seek my own will but the will of the Father who sent me.”(John 5:30)
“For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will,but the will of Him who sent me.”(John 6:38)
“My doctrine is not mine, but His who sent me.”(John 7:16)
“I am ascending to my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God.”(John 20:17)
Muhammad(Pbuh) came along approximately 600 years later, bringing the same message again: "And your God is One God: There is no God but He,..." Quran (2:163)
"...I am your Lord and Cherisher: therefore, serve Me (and no other)..."Quran 21:92
The most concise definition of God in islam is given in the four verses of surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the quran:
“Say: He is Allah, The One and Only.
“Allah, The Eternal, Absolute.
“He begets not, nor is He Begotten.
And there is none like unto Him.(Quran Chapter 112)
“There is nothing like Him (He is beyond all comparison), and He is the All-Hearing, the All-Seeing”.(42:11)
In the Qur'aan Allah clearly states:
"For We assuredly sent amongst every people a prophet,(with the command) worship me and avoid false gods " (Soorsh Al-Nahl 16:36)
Thus, the final Prophet of Islam is reported to have said, "Anyone who says:
There is no god but Allah and dies holding that (belief) will enter paradise".
"Verily Allah will not forgive the joining of partners with Him, but He may forgive (sins) less than that for whom so ever He wishes" Quran (Soorah An- Nisaa 4:48 and 116)
In Chapter As-Saff (61):6, God quotes Jesus as follows:
“And [remember] when Jesus, son of Mary, said:
‘O Children of Israel, I am the messenger of Allaah sent to you, confirming the Torah [which came] before me.”
Quran 61:6
Jesus is God, God is the Holy spirit, they are 3 in 1.

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