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“Google Operation Northwoods”

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#1 Jan 31, 2013
The Father is greater than I
http://bible.cc/john/14-28.htm

John 14
12“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.13“Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.14“If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
15“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

It couldn't be any clearer than that....
Jesus IS NOT God
Wake up
Fat Jack

Van Nuys, CA

#2 Feb 1, 2013
Yep. Christians refuse to listen to Jesus in his own words from their own holy book and instead follow the teachings of Saul of Tarsus, who never met Jesus. And Saul never mentioned the word trinity. That came about 3 centuries later.
reader

Seattle, WA

#3 Feb 2, 2013
Yes.

Everyone in the world knows the meaning of greater can't be equal.
Timesten

United States

#4 Feb 2, 2013
Timesten wrote:
The Father is greater than I
http://bible.cc/john/14-28.htm
John 14
12“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.13“Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.14“If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
15“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
It couldn't be any clearer than that....
Jesus IS NOT God
Wake up
I think you called him pimp, pedo, and drug dealer, if I remember your post correctly. How did you get there from what you posted here Tom?
PATRIOT

Carmel, ME

#6 Feb 2, 2013
Timesten wrote:
Accshually it was me who called jizzus all zat but I love to pizz timescummysten off.
You go to hell and become a big participant in the Last BBQ for mouthing off like that.

“Inveterate Islamaphobe”

Since: Jan 12

Canada

#7 Feb 2, 2013
Timesten wrote:
The Father is greater than I
http://bible.cc/john/14-28.htm
John 14
12“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.13“Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.14“If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
15“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
It couldn't be any clearer than that....
Jesus IS NOT God
Wake up
Even if he isn't, why should Christians (or anyone else) follow Pisslam?

Jesus had grace and morality. He raised the dead, served mankind, and taught love, compassion, and mercy....Mohammed (piss and pig's excrement be upon him), was an illiterate Arab pedophile and psychopathic c*nt.

See the difference Izzie?
Cohen

Guelph, Canada

#8 Feb 2, 2013
Timesten wrote:
The Father is greater than I
http://bible.cc/john/14-28.htm
John 14
12“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.13“Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.14“If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
15“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
It couldn't be any clearer than that....
Jesus IS NOT God
Wake up
Timesten- why you skipped the verses prior towhat you have quoted? Here are the verses from 6 to 11 of John 14-which clearly poins out Jesus is god incarnate:

Verses6- Jesus answered,“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you really know me, you will know[b] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him.”

8 Philip said,“Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us.”

9 Jesus answered:“Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say,‘Show us the Father’? 10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves".

So Jesus clearly states that anyone,who has seen him has seen the father(God Jehowa)meaning he and god are the same person.

Jesus statement "I am in Father and Father in me" indicates he is the incarnate of father god,when he come down to earth with a mission.

Timesten-I know you will argue for Islam's sake that Jesus is not god though your heart tells you that Jesus is god incarnate(not partner with god-but god himself in human forum).PERIOD.
naman

Hua Hin, Thailand

#9 Feb 3, 2013
As for Jesus being god: It is vey clear in the Bible that there only is one god - Yahweh in the old schrolls. But it also is clear in NT that Jesus is of divine stock. There can be a royal family even if there only is one king.
And: Are anybody - included Muslims - on this page aware of that the Quran in direct words confirm one place that Jesusis holy? What does that make Muhammad, who definitely was not holy? At least not the greatest of prophets (and a "prophet" unable to make prophesies according to the Quran - and also unable to make miracles according to the Quran).
Jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#10 Feb 4, 2013
JOHN 17:20-23, Jesus prays for his disciples:

"that they may all be one just as as You Father are in me and I in You.... that, they may be one, just as WE ALSO ARE ONE."

"....I GO TO THE FATHER....." I join back to God!!!!!

fk you are stupid!

IF CHRISTIANS EDITED THE GOSPELS AND IT MEANS WHAT YOU THINK, WHY DIDN'T THEY EDIT IT OUT!!!!!!!
judi

Jeddah, Saudi Arabia

#12 Feb 5, 2013
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#15 Feb 7, 2013
Jesus not God.....nor son of God

Christian logic = cancel your mind and blindly live the lie
naman

Huai Khwang, Thailand

#16 Feb 22, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
Jesus not God.....nor son of God
Christian logic = cancel your mind and blindly live the lie
Please prove that it is a lie. After all Jesus was very clear on that he was the son of Yahweh, and also according to the Quran Jesus was reliable (and remember here that both science and even more so Islam strongly have proved that the Bible is not falsified - in spite of Muhammad's never proved claims).

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#18 Feb 22, 2013
Egyptian_lad wrote:
Jesus not God.....nor son of God
Christian logic = cancel your mind and blindly live the lie
Jesus Christ:

To the Muslim, Jesus Christ is merely one of the many prophets of Allah (Sura: 4:171; 5:74). According to Islam, the prophet Muhammad supersedes Jesus Christ. Islam says Jesus Christ is not the Son of God or part of any Trinity (Surah 5:17; 5:116; 19:35). We are told by Islam that Jesus was the Messiah (Surah 3:45; 4:157; 171), but nothing but a slave on whom God showed favor (Surah 43:59); yet elsewhere in the Qur'an we are told the Messiah is not a slave (Surah 4:172). The Qur'an tells us that Jesus Christ did not atone for anyone's sins, although he was himself sinless (Surah 3:46) and is one of those who are near to God (Surah 3:45). Positively, the Qur'an says that Jesus Christ performed miracles (Surah 3:49; 5:110) and was the Messiah. The Qur'an says Jesus did not die on a cross. Various Muslim traditions say that Jesus either miraculously substituted Judas Iscariot for himself on the cross, or that God miraculously delivered Him from the hands of the Romans and Jews before He could be crucified. Most Muslims believe that Jesus Christ was taken bodily into heaven without having died (Surah 4:157). However, Surah 19:33 says Jesus died and would be resurrected. Muhammad on the other hand died in his wife Aisha's home, not long after he was poisoned by a slave girl. Muhammad's body was lowered into a hole in Medina, and his dead body was covered by dirt and brickwork.

It is interesting to compare Jesus and Muhammad according to the Qur'an. Jesus did miracles (Surah 3:49; 5:110), but Muhammad did not (Surah 13:8: "thou art a warner [of coming divine judgment] only"; also 6:37; 6:109; 17:59 and 17:90-93).

Jesus was sinless (Surah 3:46), but Muhammad sinned and needed forgiveness (Surah 40:55: "Ask forgiveness of thy sin"; 42:5: "Ask forgiveness for those on the Earth"; 47:19: "Ask forgiveness for thy sin" ; 48:2: "that Allah may forgive thee of thy sin").

Jesus was called "the Messiah" by Allah in the Qur'an. And Jesus was even born of a virgin (Surah 3:45-57)! Yet Muhammad who had 12 wives, 2 concubines, and participated in many attacks on innocent caravans and villages, and insisted on 20% of all the booty from these raids -- is supposed to be the greatest of the prophets.

Both Muslim holy books (Qur'an/Koran and Hadith) contain commands for Muslims to subjugate the world, militarily. Muhammad commanded Muslims to spread Islam through Offensive Jihad; or conquest of non-Muslim lands. Muslims are also commanded to take back any land that was formerly Muslim, such as Israel.

Radical Muslims believe that they are Mujahideen, or "holy warriors of Allah". Their goal, like Islam's goal is to establish the entire world as a pure Islamic state (a Khalifah), which conforms to Islamic laws.

An example of what Muslim children are taught in Muslim schools is this statement, found in a Jordanian/Palestinian school book in 1998:

"This religion (Islam) will destroy all other religions through the Islamic Jihad fighters"

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#19 Feb 22, 2013
Timesten wrote:
The Father is greater than I
http://bible.cc/john/14-28.htm
John 14
12“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father.13“Whatever you ask in My name, that will I do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.14“If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.
15“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
It couldn't be any clearer than that....
Jesus IS NOT God
Wake up
Muhammad intimidated and murdered people to propagate his ideology. His actions are the actions of ideological and religious terrorism. Since Muslim look to Muhammad as a source of inspiration and model behavior, Muslims find support for Islamic terroristic activity in the life and teachings of their prophet Muhammad. Today, Muslims use that justification to attack and murder those who differ from them. When Muslim terrorists do this, they follow in Muhammad's footsteps. Jesus condemned those who murder, and Muhammad falls into this category.

"Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood" Revelation 22:15.

Jesus said in John's gospel that Satan was a murderer from the beginning, and that those who sought to murder Him were Satan's children.

You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. John 8:44

As soon as he rose to power, Muhammad began to have people murdered. Today, Muhammad's children do the same evil deeds. Jesus taught that one day people would murder Christians thinking they would be doing service to God.

...a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God. John 16:2 (NIV)

Today, in Muslim countries, like Iran for instance, Muslims murder ex-Muslims who have become Christians. And in other countries, they attack and threaten others. Jesus taught to love your enemies, to pray for those that persecute you. Jesus didn't send his disciples out to murder people in the night, Muhammad did. Take the example of Christ and the Samaritans opposition to Jesus.

"As the time approached for Him to be taken up to heaven, Jesus resolutely set out for Jerusalem. And he set messengers on ahead, who went into a Samaritan village to get things ready for him; but the people there did not welcome him, because he was heading for Jerusalem. When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, "Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them?" And he said, "You do not know what kind of spirit you are of, for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them." And they went to another village." Luke 10:51-56

Muhammad would have ordered his men to attack the Samaritan village, then kill or enslave the people, and take all their possession as plunder. After Muhammad gained power, he sent his armies out to attack non-Muslims. Who then really brought God's message of His love for mankind? Who really taught peace? Surely, this man Muhammad was not from God. Instead, Muhammad is one of the false prophets Jesus warned his disciples about in Matthew gospel,

And many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 24:11

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#21 Mar 18, 2013
How can you say you Love me who you never saw and hate your brothers and sisters who you do see.
https://www.google.com/search...
Nandrelle

Saint Louis, MO

#22 Mar 18, 2013
True Tamil Tiger wrote:
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Even if he isn't, why should Christians (or anyone else) follow Pisslam?
Jesus had grace and morality. He raised the dead, served mankind, and taught love, compassion, and mercy....Mohammed (piss and pig's excrement be upon him), was an illiterate Arab pedophile and psychopathic c*nt.
See the difference Izzie?
How do you know Jesus did that unless it was told to you in the bible! Your religion is based on faith and the bible was written by man!

Since: Feb 13

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#23 Mar 18, 2013
Nandrelle wrote:
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How do you know Jesus did that unless it was told to you in the bible! Your religion is based on faith and the bible was written by man!
prove he didnt do it.
Nandrelle

Saint Louis, MO

#24 Mar 20, 2013
pharaohxavier wrote:
<quoted text>
prove he didnt do it.
I cant prove that he did nor that he didnt do it...Like I said you rely on faith!
Rabbeen Al Jihad

Salt Lake City, UT

#25 Mar 20, 2013
Salaamz! Thank GOD! Jesus(pbuh) is NOT god! Can you immagine the emmense amount of fallout that would occur if such a little upstart were allowed to be a GOD!? Then evry human being would be clamouring at the throne for their turn at Godhood! Utter chaos and a third war would ensue and all but the most pious of human beings would be savagely burnt-ash. But then again...who knows ,really. Cheerz

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#26 Mar 22, 2013
Yes Rabbeen if a man is God and God is a man, how many Gods can their be?

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