Karen Armstrong Left Islam

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Branden

Newark, NJ

#1 Jun 18, 2007
Karen Armstrong Left Islam

Surprisingly Karen Armstrong now says she is a ‘freelance monotheist’. Waoo!! Not a Muslim? As the Islamists were jumping up and down with joy that she converted to Islam? Obvious ‘freelance monotheist’ is not same as Islam and for sure Muslim will not like their religion to be called a ‘freelance’. If she remained a Muslim she would have continued to call her a ‘Muslim’ and her faith as ‘Islam’. Instead in her most recent writing she claims herself to be a ‘freelance monotheist’ and says her faith is based on all three Judaic faiths – Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Is that a slap on the face of the Islamists who publicized the bonanza about her converting to Islam (as much or even bigger slap than it was when she originally left Christianity)?

Well Karen Armstrong, a devout Catholic nun who left the convent and left Christianity made a lot of news especially around the Islamic world. And the Islamists had their chance to publicize the bonanza of her being a Catholic nun leaving Christianity in order to convert to Islam. Oh boy did the Islamists take advantage of that opportunity specially when she wrote book criticizing Christianity and the reasons for her disbelief. But there are many like her who has different point of view and has disbeliefs also and the Christians are least concerned since there are between 2.2 to 2.6 billion others who believe in Christianity. So out of such as large number of Christians there will be always some who would have different point of view and skeptical views; that is nothing unexpected. Especially when Karen Armstrong in her writing herself tells she started digging deeply into Christianity with a skeptical view. Obviously once any one starts doing any research with an already formed viewpoint (in her case a skeptical view), his or her research is bound to go in one direction and be biased.

So Karen Armstrong wrote an article sympathizing with the attackers of 911 on World Trade Center bombing and saying the same thing about Islam what we hear over and over from the Islamic propagandists that prophet Mohammad brought peace in Arabian peninsula who were engaged in wars and she admits that prophet Mohammad getting involved in the wars himself. Well isn’t this what all Muslims are taught to believe and parrot in their lives? So what did she say new? She herself admits that her inquiry and knowledge of other beliefs started when she visited Israel and by talking to people of other faiths such as Judaism and Islam for the first time. Well based on what she heard from the mouth of the people of other faiths she wrote article that people says about their faiths on daily basis and we are used to hearing. Yes she researched into history of Christianity (with her skeptic mind of course as she says) but did she dig deeply into other religion before writing the article; well, there is serious doubt it. When Islamic Hadith itself implies that prophet Mohammad traveled far distances to make attacks; that definitely does not fit well with an argument that he did that for defense. If only they were in one places and other Arabs attacked and they just defended fighting battles after battles, which would seem logical that they were done for defense. But when they traveled far and ambushed in dark in order to attack (as Islamic Holy Book Hadit indicates), so these battles cannot be for defense.

Karen Armstrong book did not only raise critical questions about Christianity (which Christians are very used to and Christians faiths passed that phase of being tested and rigorously being criticized for centuries and even after that Christian faith flourishing and growing); her book also raises critical issues in Islam and its belief. Otherwise why Malaysia would ban Karen Armstrong’s book on Islam?

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/623

Wouldn’t a moderate Muslim country be happy to read book by a covert to Islam (which she seems to left)?
tolivr

Montgomery, AL

#2 Jun 18, 2007
She left islam? Well, she must be killed. She has committed treason according to many of the Muslim posters on this site.
Templar

Chisinau, Moldova

#3 Jun 18, 2007
I've noticed that converts to Islam usually become jihadists or leave islam after a while. Why is that?
Just Me

Pleasant Hill, CA

#4 Jun 19, 2007
Was she ever a muslim? I thought she was only a scholar.
vioepoint

Pakistan

#5 Jun 19, 2007
She was never a muslim but only wrote the book to please the muslims and try to bring some peace and tolerance in society. In fact K. Armstrong is suffering from epilepcy and gets fits oft and on and thus she writes to get royalties from muslims.The religion needs lot of publicity in the west to change the image.
vioepoint

Pakistan

#6 Jun 19, 2007
money or some incentive drives them to become like this.In fact hatred, revenge and jihad is become like a pillar of the religion.People thrive on this .
Templar wrote:
I've noticed that converts to Islam usually become jihadists or leave islam after a while. Why is that?
sultan

Muscat, Oman

#7 Apr 3, 2011
Armstrong was never a Muslim
and the one who wrote the article really makes me laugh for several reasons
1- The number of Chrstians in the world is not 2.2 or 2.6 billion
we know that millions of people abandoned Christanty, according to statistics, only 6 % of the British people go to church regularly

2- Aramstrong leaving Christainy is the bigger slap without question
I wonder why such people like Jerald Dirks and others who dig deep in Chrstianty and have knowledge of the Bible convert to Islam
Have you ever in the course of history seen a Muslim scholar leave Islam!!!!!!!

Islam spreads so fast and you know that very well
and it is the number one religion in the world without any doubt
bmz

La Jolla, CA

#8 Apr 3, 2011
you are dead wrong. - bmz singapore will tell you the place where muslims convert out of islam.
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#9 Apr 3, 2011
Armstrong is a true religion gypsy.

I don't think the British church ever recovered from Henry VIII, Bloody Mary, etc. They remember those times.

I think Christianity is taken for granted there, and the muslims have shaken them up with their demands and complaints. Immigrants don't usually tear at the society they have fled to.

The inability of muslims to see the rest of us as brothers in humanity will undo them.
MadMike

United States

#10 Apr 3, 2011
Karen Armstrong is a former Catholic nun and is one of the foremost authorities on all three major Monotheistic religions. Her book on Mohammad is a must-read in order to understand Islamic culture as it existed then and how it exists now. She has devoted her academic career to an objective, nonjudgemental search for the truth.
more truth

Tallahassee, FL

#11 Apr 3, 2011
Yes, but every couple of years she announces that she has changed her religion.
lololo

Ipoh, Malaysia

#12 Apr 8, 2011
sultan wrote:
Armstrong was never a Muslim
yeah,u r right.i hv read one of her books titled "The History of God"-basically a book about monotheism which discusses judaism,christianity n islam..at the preface she did mentioned that she was a catholic nun n later on on her life she left Catholicism bcoz she lost her faith in that religion.she never state her current religion n for me, based on her writing, it is highly likely that she is an atheist n never converted to islam..
muslim

Surabaya, Indonesia

#13 Mar 19, 2013
it's becoz they dont learn islam in right way. they are the hypocrites
bmz wrote:
you are dead wrong.- bmz singapore will tell you the place where muslims convert out of islam.
Happy Days

London, UK

#14 Mar 19, 2013
Karen Armstrong is an appeaser. She will not say anything that could upset anyone. That's why she excuses Muhammad for murdering 800 uunarmed men of the Banu Qurayza tribe and enslavng their women and children.
Karen Armstrong is immoral not to condemen vicious brutality.
Sick of islam

UK

#15 Mar 19, 2013
Happy Days wrote:
Karen Armstrong is an appeaser. She will not say anything that could upset anyone. That's why she excuses Muhammad for murdering 800 uunarmed men of the Banu Qurayza tribe and enslavng their women and children.
Karen Armstrong is immoral not to condemen vicious brutality.
You’re right. I’ve seen an interview of her excusing the Banu Qurayza killing as something which had to be done in order set the right precedent for that time. It is astounding that his sins are always excused but his message apparently is for all people and for all time.
Onelawforall

London, UK

#16 Mar 19, 2013
Sick of islam wrote:
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You’re right. I’ve seen an interview of her excusing the Banu Qurayza killing as something which had to be done in order set the right precedent for that time. It is astounding that his sins are always excused but his message apparently is for all people and for all time.
As you say, if Muhammad is the prophet of god then everything he does is for all time. This means that muslims today can murder prisoners of war and enslave their women and children because Muhammad did it.

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