why GOD sent disasters on countries?
Yep

Independence, MO

#124 Jul 2, 2012
Ravenclaw wrote:
<quoted text>
Right on the money. Here is another example of ash ignoring and diverting attention from the topic. Then running when none of that worked.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TSI...
Crap I can't understand a word this guy is saying. Maybe it's better if he sticks to copy/paste. Nice touch at the end there Raven Claw. You didn't lower yourself to insults like him but simply asked a question which again he diverted into an insult and then a bunch of spam and then.....

Sorry but this got me laughing so hard:

By ashkarlive4ALLAH in reply to you:

madam "Ravenclaw i feel u want to beat me it is allowed just come to discharge your hate on me believe me i will let u.peace

You simply ask him and he victimizes himself like a martyr as if you were out to murder him simply for asking a question. Most of these guys are just not allowed to question. I'm sure if he were to ask the very same things you were that would contradict his holy book he'd be in big trouble. Truth be told, I knew one guy from Lebanon, a fairly liberal country who left his faith and told me these very questions are what prompted him to get in trouble with his community thus leaving his religion. He's one heck of a bright kid. It's ashame because I think there are probably many clever "Muslims" out there, but their intelligence is threatened by ash and the like because if they dare say or ask anything that contradicts what they've been indoctrinated to believe and not question, they'll risk being ostracized or worse...and I think we all know what that is.

“Make Art ”

Since: Sep 10

Earth

#125 Jul 3, 2012
ashkarlive4ALLAH wrote:
<quoted text>do not say please u just order me dear inshaALLAH tomorow peace."Calypso
I don't believe I ordered you to do anything I believe I asked you a fair question without any insults unlike yourself. Not sure what you mean by tomorrow but I figure that means either "to hell with you I'm not answering your question" or I will answer tomorrow. I'm still unsure as to which but I would think it wouldn't be a tough question. People who do good who don't believe in a god or believe in a different god, do they go to hell and or face Allah's wrath? People who identify themselves as Muslims and kill innocent people, steal, stone women to death for adultery or rape as it seems rape and adultery are intertwined, people who cuss, drink, hurt a human being who has done nothing to him/her, abuse animals, abuse children, rape, use violence as a means to rule over their spouse or loved one.....what of these people who identify as Muslim? What of the people who do good deeds who don't identify as Muslim. Your brother Abdul says good deeds mean nothing unless you're a Muslim. He didn't answer however the Muslims who do what I just listed nor did he speak up against the acts against Muslims who do. I will just for now assume either you're busy, can't answer, or will answer later or never. Personally I think it's terrible to use victims of natural disasters as your vendetta against non-Muslims. No human being, child or animal deserves that in my own personal opinion.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#126 Jul 3, 2012
Timesten wrote:
(You're theory is from nothing. Mine says from a Grand Superior Being, with a vast amount of knowledge and power.
Which sounds more plausible.)
A God is not nothing but a something.
If something can just exist without explanation then why can't that be the spark that caused the universe?
Which is more likely to just exist, some unknown quirk of physics or a sentient, incredibly powerful and intelligent entity?
Timesten wrote:
Here's a thought of reasoning...Stand in between two full wall mirrors 10'x 10' and look at yourself. Now as you look into the mirror. What do you see directly in back of you in that reflection....
Hint you see yourself in infinity. Can you count the images you see there. They go on and on and on, for infinity, as long as you have a light on yourself you can see that.
http://skullsinthestars.files.wordpress.com/2...
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So likewise that is God also...he has no beginning no end.
That could also be applied to the laws of physics.
Timesten wrote:
Show me the beginning/end of a circle. There is none, unless you put one on it.
http://www.tc.gc.ca/media/images/marinesafety...
Everything God does is in circular, perpetual motion.
Solar systems, earths rotation, Get up go to work, come home, sleep repeat. A circle of motion..
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Yes your science can readily theorize how everything works but as Ashkar said, God makes those happenings motivate. All science is doing is, telling us how they motivate, their ingredients, and progression of function, how they work.
Again this could apply just as easily to the laws of physics.
Timesten wrote:
Like was stated, if you survive a million years from now and knowledge keeps increasing and you are almost creating life in a test tube and clones, what will mans IQ be in those days. People of then would be as Gods to the people of today..
Just as if people of a mere 2000 years ago, would look at us as being Gods of wisdom today.
imho
Are you saying God evolved?

You can't use a negative argument to prove God. You require positive proof.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#127 Jul 3, 2012
Timesten wrote:
"theory of everything"
Now that's a classic....
Dad how did we get here..
I'll tell you my son.
We don't really know. But as the story goes everything in it's own design formed itself and grew.
Now go get me a beer.
(A fine race should come forth onto this world, from that way of thinking.)
Yes son be a scientist and help destroy, er I mean create a better world. Some of our thinking has gotten out of control and we need people to fix those items.
https://www.google.com/search...
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https://www.google.com/search...
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World's pollution hotspots revealed from space
http://www.newscientist.com/data/images/ns/cm...
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http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6515-wo...
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And we need to fix these if we can, we made some minor errors in our creativity.
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Air.
https://www.google.com/search...
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WATER.
https://www.google.com/search...
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Land.
https://www.google.com/search...
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Ezekiel 36:17
Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
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Leviticus 18:25
And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
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Leviticus 18:27
(For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)
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Jeremiah 2:7
And I brought you into a plentiful country, to eat the fruit thereof and the goodness thereof; but when ye entered, ye defiled my land, and made mine heritage an abomination.
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Even in Outer Space.
Which is the Heavens
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TFT4KRN...
Speaking of outer space.
Revelation 18:5
For Babylon, that great city that rules over the kings of the earth, her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

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Jeremiah 3...
6 The Lord said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen that which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot.
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7 And I said after she had done all these things, Turn thou unto me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw it.
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8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
9 And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.
10 And yet for all this her treacherous sister Judah hath not turned unto me with her whole heart, but feignedly, saith the Lord.
11 And the Lord said unto me, The backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah.
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That's how I see it happening in today's world.
Science has destroyed the world with it's vast knowledge. and Gods vengeance thru weather, war famine plague and pestilence happenings is upon us all for it.
God created the world
Saw it was good.
Satan's 'science' came in and destroyed it.
Yet strangely we are all living longer.
If science is messing up this world then that's still not proof of any God.
(And doom and gloom merchants have been 10 a penny throughout all of history. We're still here.)

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Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#128 Jul 3, 2012
Igor/w
"A God is not nothing but a something."
I/w
I totally agree.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#129 Jul 3, 2012
Yep wrote:
<quoted text>
Crap I can't understand a word this guy is saying. Maybe it's better if he sticks to copy/paste. Nice touch at the end there Raven Claw. You didn't lower yourself to insults like him but simply asked a question which again he diverted into an insult and then a bunch of spam and then.....
Sorry but this got me laughing so hard:
By ashkarlive4ALLAH in reply to you:
madam "Ravenclaw i feel u want to beat me it is allowed just come to discharge your hate on me believe me i will let u.peace
You simply ask him and he victimizes himself like a martyr as if you were out to murder him simply for asking a question. Most of these guys are just not allowed to question. I'm sure if he were to ask the very same things you were that would contradict his holy book he'd be in big trouble. Truth be told, I knew one guy from Lebanon, a fairly liberal country who left his faith and told me these very questions are what prompted him to get in trouble with his community thus leaving his religion. He's one heck of a bright kid. It's ashame because I think there are probably many clever "Muslims" out there, but their intelligence is threatened by ash and the like because if they dare say or ask anything that contradicts what they've been indoctrinated to believe and not question, they'll risk being ostracized or worse...and I think we all know what that is.
I have noticed that muslim men tend to be drama queens. All they need is panty hose and lip stick...
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#130 Jul 3, 2012
CalypsoTheBrave wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe I ordered you to do anything I believe I asked you a fair question without any insults unlike yourself. Not sure what you mean by tomorrow but I figure that means either "to hell with you I'm not answering your question" or I will answer tomorrow. I'm still unsure as to which but I would think it wouldn't be a tough question. People who do good who don't believe in a god or believe in a different god, do they go to hell and or face Allah's wrath? People who identify themselves as Muslims and kill innocent people, steal, stone women to death for adultery or rape as it seems rape and adultery are intertwined, people who cuss, drink, hurt a human being who has done nothing to him/her, abuse animals, abuse children, rape, use violence as a means to rule over their spouse or loved one.....what of these people who identify as Muslim? What of the people who do good deeds who don't identify as Muslim. Your brother Abdul says good deeds mean nothing unless you're a Muslim. He didn't answer however the Muslims who do what I just listed nor did he speak up against the acts against Muslims who do. I will just for now assume either you're busy, can't answer, or will answer later or never. Personally I think it's terrible to use victims of natural disasters as your vendetta against non-Muslims. No human being, child or animal deserves that in my own personal opinion.
salaam dear "CalypsoTheBrave" u understand me wrong i meant tomorrow i will explain i am very sick today headache even i swear i can not think or search or read ur question need all that i am not run from answer believe me if tomorrow changed to better i will answer peace dear

“Make Art ”

Since: Sep 10

Earth

#131 Jul 4, 2012
Ok.
disastG

Pittsfield, MA

#132 Jul 4, 2012
Yep wrote:
<quoted text>
Crap I can't understand a word this guy is saying.
Maybe when you graduate grade school you will be able to.
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#133 Jul 4, 2012
CalypsoTheBrave wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe I ordered you to do anything I believe I asked you a fair question without any insults unlike yourself. Not sure what you mean by tomorrow but I figure that means either "to hell with you I'm not answering your question" or I will answer tomorrow. I'm still unsure as to which but I would think it wouldn't be a tough question. People who do good who don't believe in a god or believe in a different god, do they go to hell and or face Allah's wrath? People who identify themselves as Muslims and kill innocent people, steal, stone women to death for adultery or rape as it seems rape and adultery are intertwined, people who cuss, drink, hurt a human being who has done nothing to him/her, abuse animals, abuse children, rape, use violence as a means to rule over their spouse or loved one.....what of these people who identify as Muslim? What of the people who do good deeds who don't identify as Muslim. Your brother Abdul says good deeds mean nothing unless you're a Muslim. He didn't answer however the Muslims who do what I just listed nor did he speak up against the acts against Muslims who do. I will just for now assume either you're busy, can't answer, or will answer later or never. Personally I think it's terrible to use victims of natural disasters as your vendetta against non-Muslims. No human being, child or animal deserves that in my own personal opinion.
hello salam upon u dear u did not order me but because u asked by polite u said before please answer for that i said do not say please i want u order me miss because in this time hard to find someone ask or speak polite please do not think again in this way "to hell with you impossible to think like that all i want u to avoid hell any bad MAY ALLAH GUIDE U let me return to ur question if u have son u whom confinement u was patient for 9 mounths and speant all your life for him then ur son refused u went to other woman and called her mom and for ALLAH the best example he created u for him then why u will go to other GODs from stoon wood or human or refuse him did you see before maker make any thing uselessly example if man wants to make car why do u think he will make it to see it or serve him KNOW DEAR [And We did not create the heaven and earth and that between them in play.Had We intended to take a diversion, We could have taken it from [what is] with Us - if [indeed] We were to do so.]also ALLAH did not create u to do good deeds only he wants believe then obey him if someone did not believe by GOD or worship anyone beside him will enter hell forever think when meet him u will say i did not admit by u or i worshiped other GOD but if u believe and did wrong deeds u will reward according the sin for every sin diffrent punish look what ALLAH said [Do they [then] wait for anything except that the angels should come to them or your Lord should come or that there come some of the signs of your Lord? The Day that some of the signs of your Lord will come no soul will benefit from its faith as long as it had not believed before or had earned through its faith some good. Say, "Wait. Indeed, we [also] are waiting."].
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#134 Jul 4, 2012
the people who avoid hell [And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace,And those who spend [part of] the night to their Lord prostrating and standing [in prayer]And those who say, "Our Lord, avert from us the punishment of Hell. Indeed, its punishment is ever adhering;Indeed, it is evil as a settlement and residence."And [they are] those who, when they spend, do so not excessively or sparingly but are ever, between that,[justly] moderate And those who do not invoke with Allah another deity or kill the soul which Allah has forbidden [to be killed], except by right, and do not commit unlawful sexual intercourse. And whoever should do that will meet a penalty.Multiplied for him is the punishment on the Day of Resurrection, and he will abide therein humiliated -Except for those who repent, believe and do righteous work. For them Allah will replace their evil deeds with good. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.And he who repents and does righteousness does indeed turn to Allah with [accepted] repentance.And [they are] those who do not testify to falsehood, and when they pass near ill speech, they pass by with dignity.And those who, when reminded of the verses of their Lord, do not fall upon them deaf and blind.And those who say, "Our Lord, grant us from among our wives and offspring comfort to our eyes and make us an example for the righteous."]
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#135 Jul 4, 2012
look again [[Do they [then] wait for anything except that the angels should come to them or your Lord should come or that there come some of the signs of your Lord? The Day that some of the signs of your Lord will come no soul will benefit from its faith as long as it had not believed before or had earned through its faith some good. Say, "Wait. Indeed, we [also] are waiting."] the unbeliever and muslim did not earned through its faith some good but the unbeliever forever because refused GOD muslim will reward according his sin BTW the child who dead in disaster or any thing he will enter paradise without any question know again GOD did not create u uselessly please what is the wrong if u believed by GOD i swear his signs so clear GOD clarfied his signs do not let them cheat u life is so short [I swear by the Day of Resurrection And I swear by the reproaching soul [to the certainty of resurrection].Does man think that We will not assemble his bones?Yes.[We are] Able [even] to proportion his fingertips.But man desires to continue in sin.He asks, "When is the Day of Resurrection?"So when vision is dazzled And the moon darkens And the sun and the moon are joined,Man will say on that Day, "Where is the [place of] escape?"No! There is no refuge.To your Lord, that Day, is the [place of] permanence.Man will be informed that Day of what he sent ahead and kept back.Rather, man, against himself, will be a witness,Even if he presents his excuses]]peace
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#136 Jul 4, 2012
LOL wrote:
<quoted text>
What's a matter? Can't answer her question because she's a girl or because it's just too hard for you to answer a simple question? Her post sounded reasonable to me. Maybe you don't like the idea of females having more brains than you. Just keep running off with your tail between your legs spamming with copy/paste out of nothing that has backed your beliefs.
peace mr lol i can not belive what u think Maybe you don't like the idea of females having more brains than you maybe that is u mr lol and Charles Philip Arthur George but for me no even i prefer my wife smarter than me i am not complicated.peace
ashkarlive4ALLAH

Yemen

#137 Jul 5, 2012
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
Look what happened to the Xtians statue Idol....
http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/15/jesu...
good Big Butter Jesus
naman

Oslo, Norway

#138 Jul 6, 2012
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks my friend, but only God/Allah is truly good. I would call myself a fair man, if I were to choose a title, having compassion for the oppressed and downtrodden and hating all manner of evil.
Peace my friend
Why are you lying, Timesten? You do not have compassion with the downtrodden unless they are Muslims (the Quran even demands that all non-Muslims shall be downtrodden by Islam), and you are not hateing evil unless it is described as evil by Islam, and this in spite of that much in Islam's moral code collides with the only really fundamental moral rule: "Do to others like you want others do to you".

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Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#140 Jul 11, 2012
Trust Allah-God Almighty wrote:
why GOD sent disasters on countries?
To wake people up
God doesn't send disasters you backward idiot!

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#142 Jul 11, 2012
Trust Allah-God Almighty wrote:
why GOD sent disasters on countries?
To wake people up
If that's true, then muslims better wake up soon.

2004 Indonesian Tsunami
According to the U.S. Geological Survey a total of 227,898 people died (see table below for details).[52] Measured in lives lost, this is one of the ten worst earthquakes in recorded history, as well as the single worst tsunami in history. Indonesia was the worst affected area, with most death toll estimates at around 170,000.[53] However, another report by health minister Fadilah Supari has estimated the death total to be as high as 220,000 in Indonesia alone, giving a total of 280,000 casualties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocea...

earthquakes in Pakistan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_earthqua...

1974, December 28 5,300 dead, 17,000 injured

2005 October 8 80,000 dead, 305 million homeless

2008 October 29 120,000 homeless

February 4, 1998 Afghanistan earthquake
February 4, 1998 AA spokesman for the United Islamic Front for the Salvation of Afghanistan, which controlled certain area, told the Afghan Islamic Press that they removed more than 3,500 bodies.[2] According to the estimates by the Taliban government in Kabul, which ruled the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan at that time, 3,230 people died in the earthquake.[2] Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) later put the death toll at 4,000.[2] The anti-Taliban Afghan Embassy in Dushanbe asserted that approximately 15,000 people became homeless[2][10] and dozens of villages were destroyed.[2] Nearly 15,000 houses were destroyed primarily due to the landslides triggered by the quake.[8] Approximately 10,000 people were injured[9] and 6,725 livestock were killed in the earthquake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_4,_1998...

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#143 Jul 11, 2012
May 30, 1998 Afghanistan earthquake

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_30,_1998_Afg...

The magnitude of the earthquake was 6.9 on the Richter scale.[1][2][3][4][5] This was the second largest earthquake in the area in 1998 after another earthquake on February 4.[2] Between 4,000-4,500 people died in the earthquake in Takhar and Badakhshan provinces.[1][2][6] Nearly 7,000 families were affected and estimated 16,000 houses were destroyed or damaged.[2] Approximately 45,000 people became homeless due to the earthquake.[5] More than 30 villages were destroyed and another 70 were severely damaged.[3] Several thousand animals were killed and crops and infrastructure was destroyed in the earthquake.[7]

Like many other poorer developing nations, Afghanistan was ill equipped to face this kind of natural disaster.[3] The country had no forms of protection or hazard micronization.[4] Houses were mainly built of mud brick with shallow foundation.[3] The villages were built on unstable slopes.[3] Many villages were entirely buried due to the landslides triggered by the quake.[4] Aftershocks continued for a month.[2] The earthquake was also felt at Mazar-e Sharif, Kabul, Andijan, Samarkand, Islamabad, Peshawar, Rawalpindi and Dushanbe

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#144 Jul 11, 2012
2002 Hindu Kush earthquakes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Hindu_Kush_...

The March 25 earthquake

At 14:56:33 UTC a 6.1 tremor hit an area 160 km (99 mi) SW of Feyzabad, Afghanistan. At least 1,000 people were killed, several hundred injured and several thousand homeless in Baghlan Province. At least 1,500 houses were destroyed or damaged at Nahrin and several hundred more in other areas of Baghlan Province. Landslides blocked many roads in the epicentral area. This was a shallow focus event and was felt strongly in much of northern Afghanistan. Also felt in the Islamabad-Peshawar area, Pakistan and at Dushanbe, Tajikistan.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#145 Jul 11, 2012
June 2012 Afghanistan earthquakes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2012_Afghan...

On 11 June 2012, two earthquakes struck northern Afghanistan, causing a large landslide. The landslide buried the town of Sayi Hazara, trapping 71 people. After four days of digging, only five bodies were recovered and the search was called off.[2] Overall, 75 people were killed and 28 others were injured.

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