We ALL are born muslim, ALL OF US !
noyb5349

Minneapolis, MN

#115 Nov 25, 2012
Igor Trip wrote:
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If the Quran is hard to understand because the words can have so many different meanings, wouldn't this prove it's not perfect and so not from a God?
In the name of Allah.

The Holy Qur'an is not difficult to understand. There are multiple translations of it but there are multiple translations of the Bible. None of this proves that these books are not from Allah (God.)
ya heba

Vaucluse, Australia

#116 Nov 25, 2012
to all filthy kuffar INdenial, you were All born Muslim. Everyone is born a Muslim and free from sin. when you come of age/ puberty its upto you seek guidance with Allah/Islam. after puberty you choose your own path, you have before you die to revert, however if you die denying Allah and reject Faith you will be the companions/dwellers of the Fire FOREVER!!!!!!
muslim

Londonderry, UK

#117 Nov 25, 2012
sumwrnwv wrote:
Believing in a SkyDaddy and his prophet..lmao
A prophet who was a thrice failed businessman..and a drunkard..
Ostrisized by his family..
Got drunk..hit his head on a rock..and then suffered from delusions of grandeur..
Oh..when I was a drunkard teenager..I was 10 feet tall..and bulletproof..lmao.
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Dis only happens in America and the west every weekend, go check it out!..
Not in Islam
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#118 Nov 25, 2012
No one is born muslim. Islam is a mass mental illness. It rots the brain.

"Google, the worldÂ’s most popular Internet search engine, has found in a survey that mostly Muslim states seek access to sex-related websites and Pakistan tops the list. Google found that of the top 10 countries - searching for sex-related sites - six were Muslim, with Pakistan on the top. The other Muslim countries are Egypt at number 2, Iran at 4, Morocco at 5, Saudi Arabia at 7 and Turkey at 8. Non-Muslim states are Vietnam at 3, India at 6, Philippines at 9 and Poland at 10.[1]"

Muslims are psychologically twisted sexual deviants as was their self-proclaimed "prophet".

Since: Aug 12

Mersin, Turkey

#119 Nov 25, 2012
how we can block someone in this forum ? I dont know how to do it ? help please
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#120 Nov 25, 2012
B_Girl_Turco wrote:
how we can block someone in this forum ? I dont know how to do it ? help please
This forum is American. We have freedom of expression. Filthy muslims cannot suppress the truth about their satanic "religion" here.
ya heba

Annandale, Australia

#121 Nov 25, 2012
Daniel wrote:
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Your intolerant response proves my point. Islam has made you feel justifed in abusing people who point out the corruptness & violence that is in Islam. You probably think you are a moral person yet:
Flogging and stoning people is immoral whatever their crime.
Chopping off people's hands is immoral whatever their crime.
"Wife beating is immoral."

nonsense, will come back later to refute.

"Homophobia is immoral"

no such thing as homophobia, they need to repent and change their ways or pay the consequences.

"Misogyny is immoral"

huh?
"Slavery is immoral"

huh? what slavery?

Rape is immoral & slavery is rape.

there is punishment for rapists.

All of the above are approved of in the Koran as is your diatribe against reasoned argument.
there are RULES, ISLAM is strict religion.

Islamic law is God's Law.

those who transgress beyond what's lawful deserve punishment one way or another.

making example of a transgressor so those who dare to transgress BEWARE!!!

making example of one so others keep in line. its true justice. afterall All things that Allah has forbidden is infact GOOD for HUMANITY, good for mind, good for health etc, Allah wants the best for His creation.

deny all you want but this is the cold hard truth.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#122 Nov 25, 2012
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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It's not rational to believe in something only because more than one person say so. Let's us that thousands people promise virgins in paradise and eternal hell for disbelievers it's still irrational to believe it.
Rather than the number of claimers one should focus on what is said and what evidence has brought.
But if a thousand different messengers in different countries all over the world said the same thing that would be evidence for God.
Instead everywhere we look we find different beliefs. People can't agree on how many Gods, their nature, there abilities, the afterlife or even if there is one or what they want from us. That's evidence against there being any God.

Since: Aug 12

Mersin, Turkey

#123 Nov 25, 2012
Faith wrote:
<quoted text>This forum is American. We have freedom of expression. Filthy muslims cannot suppress the truth about their satanic "religion" here.
maybe I dont want to see someones writing , isnt it . I wantto see only humans writing

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#124 Nov 25, 2012
That saying means wrote:
<quoted text>
In the name of Allah.
Peace be unto you.
Dear Igor Trip,
What Muhammad (pbuh) meant when he said everyone is born a Muslim is this:
The word "Muslim" means "one who submits his/her will entirely to do the Will of Allah (God.)" Muhammad was saying that it is the NATURE of all men (and women) to submit their will to do the Will of God. The world turns some of us out and makes us go against what is NATURAL but it is our nature to submit our will entirely to do the Will of God.
Peace be unto you.
Yahyaa Waahid
This presumes without any evidence that babies do know God.
Beliefs are not evidence of anything except wishful thinking.
ya heba

Annandale, Australia

#125 Nov 25, 2012
Thunder-Girl wrote:
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Well someone telling me that I was born a muslim is an insult to me. My beliefs are different than yours, plus I eat pork and I have a dog in the house. Your allah hates women, pigs and dogs. I hate your halal sacrifices too!
everything you said is nonsense, so i am not even gonna bother fixing.

you say hate halal slaughter, the go watch "from farm to fridge" because that is what you eat atleast halal slaughter is done properly and with dignity.
ya heba

Annandale, Australia

#126 Nov 25, 2012
Amp man wrote:
The muzzie savages are delusional.I was NEVER
a muzzie .I again say I 100% reject the evil cult of islam.lol,What a joke.These muzzie tell outrageous lies as facts and expect people to believe them.I was born into a Christian family and that is what I am.
you were born a Muslim but born to non-muslim family household. your parents were born Muslim but became kuffar just like you right now.
ya heba

Annandale, Australia

#127 Nov 25, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
Specially filthy turks.
your are a filthy jooooooooo.
noyb5349

Minneapolis, MN

#128 Nov 25, 2012
Igor Trip wrote:
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This presumes without any evidence that babies do know God.
Beliefs are not evidence of anything except wishful thinking.
You must read more carefully. As I said it is talking about the NATURE of us. He is saying that it is the nature of man or the human being to submit his will entirely to do the Will of Allah (God.) You can still have that nature and not know Who Allah (God) is.

“Freedom, NOT islam.”

Since: Feb 11

Birmingham UK

#129 Nov 25, 2012
Unbiased Muslim wrote:
It is shaytan who lures some of us astray from the proper path.
No, we are not all born muslims. We are all born innocent. And there-after, you are right. Shaitan DOES lure some of us away from what is good and right. Those who are lured away are called muslims and the all belong to islam,...the family of shaitan.
sharia not spoken here

Cantonment, FL

#130 Nov 25, 2012
that's just bullshit. I was NOT "born muslim".
Unbiased Muslim wrote:
It is shaytan who lures some of us astray from the proper path.
And don't your forget it.
sharia not spoken here

Cantonment, FL

#131 Nov 25, 2012
*you*

cramped fingers = typo error increases

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#132 Nov 25, 2012
That saying means wrote:
<quoted text>
In the name of Allah.
Peace be unto you.
Dear Igor Trip,
What Muhammad (pbuh) meant when he said everyone is born a Muslim is this:
The word "Muslim" means "one who submits his/her will entirely to do the Will of Allah (God.)" Muhammad was saying that it is the NATURE of all men (and women) to submit their will to do the Will of God. The world turns some of us out and makes us go against what is NATURAL but it is our nature to submit our will entirely to do the Will of God.
Peace be unto you.
Yahyaa Waahid
I think you just gave your own free interpretation of what Muhammad said. If I'm not mistaken this is what he said:

"No babe is born but upon Fitra. It is his parents who make him a Jew or a Christian or a Polytheist."

It's clear he meant what is written and not what you said. Let's take for instance your "nature of man", there is no such thing in life. Take for instance myself, my parents are religious and I used to believe to the god they believed, then at the certain point of my life I decided to read the holy book and I found hard to believe such god exists. I even read the Quran as well and I reject it. Also unlike my parents I never been keen to go to the "temple" to pray, to praise god since I was very little. So your nature of man is a myth.
the only good kafirs___

New York, NY

#133 Nov 25, 2012
___are the dead ones.

All are born muslims.
Those who stray along the way will surely turn to Holy Islam again for guidance.
It's only a matter of time.

I said.

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#134 Nov 25, 2012
Fully disagree with you.
Igor Trip wrote:
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But if a thousand different messengers in different countries all over the world said the same thing that would be evidence for God.
Instead everywhere we look we find different beliefs.
So are you saying that since different people claim the existence of dragon and Santa Clause that would be the evidence of their existence?

Once someone or thousand people make a claim, then there is the need to investigate and bring evidence(s), the multitude does not really constitute a proof.
Igor Trip wrote:
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People can't agree on how many Gods, their nature, there abilities, the afterlife or even if there is one or what they want from us. That's evidence against there being any God.
Not necessarily their disagreements is an evidence agasint there being any god. As you putted in this way, I can say there can be ALSO a chance that one is right.

Moreover it's impossible to deny or affirm the existence of god, being this word to vague, and thus hard to define it, if we speak in general terms.

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