BIRTH OF A DAUGHTER IS A LOSS? but why?

BIRTH OF A DAUGHTER IS A LOSS? but why?

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Alen

UK

#1 Jul 24, 2010
"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).

Now, how can any sane person write such an absurd? How can any person believe in this? God created a woman just like a man and both have same rights, at leats, according to The Qur'an, the Word of God.

I don't know who wrote The Bible later on but those men were not sane. God knows best.
Alen

UK

#2 Jul 24, 2010
Today, women are accepting Islam and The Qur'n, because they find more freedom in it and they become relaxed, they find true happiness and peace within themselves.

How can The Bible be the law of any country, when it says that having a daughter is a loss? What about people who can't have children, what about women who give still-births?

Who were the real authors of The Bible?
Alen

UK

#3 Jul 24, 2010
"Your daughter is headstrong? Keep a sharp look-out that she does not make you the laughing stock of your enemies, the talk of the town, the object of common gossip, and put you to public shame" (Ecclesiasticus 42:11).

"Keep a headstrong daughter under firm control, or she will abuse any indulgence she receives. Keep a strict watch on her shameless eye, do not be surprised if she disgraces you" (Ecclesiasticus 26:10-11).
Alen

UK

#4 Jul 24, 2010
[16:58] When one of them gets a baby girl, his face becomes darkened with overwhelming grief.
[16:59] Ashamed, he hides from the people, because of the bad news given to him. He even ponders: should he keep the baby grudgingly, or bury her in the dust. Miserable indeed is their judgment.
Alen

UK

#5 Jul 24, 2010
"As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church." (I Corinthians 14:34-35)
Alen

UK

#6 Jul 24, 2010
In Islam, according to The Qur'an, a woman is allowed to argue with a man, she is even allowed to argue with a prophet/messenger of God.

[58:1] GOD has heard the woman who debated with you about her husband, and complained to GOD. GOD heard everything the two of you discussed. GOD is Hearer, Seer.

Woman has rights only in Islam, according to The Qur'an.
Alen

UK

#8 Jul 24, 2010
Now I understand why The Bible had to be separated from the soceity, now I understand better why those guys separated the church from the state, it's becoming clear now.

Glory be to God.
Sarah

United States

#9 Jul 27, 2012
Yes, Quran says both are equal.
Even the ancient people wrote in The Bible. This is in
Exodus 21: 7-8, It says Fathers have rights to sell their daughter as a servant [slave girl] to other men.
It's a DISGRACE TO THE Ancient people who Edited Bible and added these nonsenses !!!

“not that tom!”

Since: Sep 10

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#10 Jul 28, 2012
Sarah wrote:
Yes, Quran says both are equal.
Even the ancient people wrote in The Bible. This is in
Exodus 21: 7-8, It says Fathers have rights to sell their daughter as a servant [slave girl] to other men.
It's a DISGRACE TO THE Ancient people who Edited Bible and added these nonsenses !!!
And yet despite being 'supposedly' equal, a muslim women cannot marry a non-muslim.
And, can be disciplined by her husband but may not discipline him for any wrong doings.
No matter how you couch it Islam discriminates against women and hold them inferior to a man.
The vast majority of religions are man made and thus discriminate the female sex.
word changes

Pittsfield, MA

#11 Jul 28, 2012
I agree fully Sarah and Alen.
word changes

Pittsfield, MA

#12 Jul 28, 2012
tom_ wrote:
<quoted text> And yet despite
Have you ever read Judaic Law for the Ju's who practice Judaism?.
Genesis 3:16
To the woman he said,“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”
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1 Corinthians 14:34
Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says.
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I/w...
And yet despite being 'supposedly' equal, a Jewish women cannot marry a Gentile/Goyim. A non-Ju.
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I/w..
(They pushed that law aside 100's of years ago.)
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And,'he, the husband' can be disciplined by his wife but may not discipline her for any wrong doings. Jewish custom...("Yes Dear, No Dear, Be right there Dear" I'm sorry Dear)
Of course that rhetoric wears of after the age of 50 for the man, as do most men.
No matter how you couch it the USA also discriminates against women and hold many of them inferior to a man, Talking of the household women not the Gov. leaders. Sex abuse dom.viol. workpklace. pay equality, race etc etc
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TLM...

Y/w..
The vast majority of religions are man made and thus discriminate the female sex.
I/w.
Agreed to a point, but not all text is man made. There are inspired words, they're called 'Truths', and 'Seeing is Believing'.
If it's written and you can see it, then it's true. If you can't see it, scrutinize it very carefully until you do. Q' it intensely. Many,(not all) religious leaders have all gone into a 'power to dominate' mode. Many false prophets roam the earth, seeking to devour who they may.
I clarify again,'not all'. There are many who 'are' earnest and 'have' true hearts, for their faiths. That's where the good and bad come into this world the balance of all things...'Good and Evil.

bk2u
word changes

Pittsfield, MA

#14 Jul 29, 2012
Alen wrote:
Now I understand why The Bible had to be separated from the soceity, now I understand better why those guys separated the church from the state, it's becoming clear now.
Glory be to God.
yepper..
Jesus is not God

Pittsfield, MA

#15 Jul 30, 2012
Alen wrote:
"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).
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"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).
"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).
Now, how can any sane person write such an absurd? How can any person believe in this? God created a woman just like a man and both have same rights, at leats, according to The Qur'an, the Word of God.
I don't know who wrote The Bible later on but those men were not sane. God knows best.
Excellent thread Alen
Timesten

Pittsfield, MA

#16 Jul 30, 2012
Jesus is not God wrote:
<quoted text>
Excellent thread Alen
Agreed totally
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#17 Jul 31, 2012
Alen wrote:
"The birth of a daughter is a loss" (Ecclesiasticus 22:3).
ECCLESIASTICUS 22:3:
{22:3}'An undisciplined son is the shame of his father, but an undisciplined daughter will be to his degradation.'

YOUR SICK!!!!!
time

Pittsfield, MA

#18 Jul 31, 2012
degradation
the process of deterioration of characteristics of an object with time; moving back; gradual decline; decline in quality; breakdown of matter due to the impact of external forces in conformity with the laws of nature and time. Degradation is often referred to as the opposite of Progress.....in other words ....a loss
word change

Pittsfield, MA

#19 Jul 31, 2012
God says who is to die and who is to live. But we will all be judged in the end, and have to account for our actions...individually....

The following verse can be found in the Torah, the Latin Vulgate and the Bible. All condone by the N/T
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Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
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Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live.(Exodus 22:17 NAB)
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Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
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Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
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Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.(Exodus 21:15 NAB)
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Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness.(Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense.(Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
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Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.(Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
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Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
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Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.(Exodus 22:19 NAB)
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Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
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Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.(Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
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Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
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Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
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Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
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Death for Blasphemy,[You remember this one, right]
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Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT
Kill False Prophets

Deuteronomy 17:6
On the testimony of two or three witnesses a man shall be put to death, but no one shall be put to death on the testimony of only one witness.
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Romans 1:24-32 NLT
Infidels and Gays Should Die
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Numbers 1:48-51 NLT
Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
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Exodus 31:12-15 NLT
Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
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Numbers 31:17-18
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17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
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Numbers 31:35-40
32 The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 33 72,000 cattle, 34 61,000 donkeys 35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.
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19 "All of you who have killed anyone or touched anyone who was killed must stay outside the camp seven days.
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All are still condoned in the N/T
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TI7...
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#20 Aug 1, 2012
word change wrote:
God says who is to die and who is to live. But we will all be judged in the end, and have to account for our actions...individually....
The following verse can be found in the Torah, the Latin Vulgate and the Bible.
AND THESE VERSES:

EZEKIEL 18:21
“But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die.
22 None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live.
23 "DO I TAKE ANY PLEASURE IN THE DEATH OF THE WICKED?" declares the Sovereign Lord. "Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live"?

WHEN JESUS CLAIMED HE DID NOT COME TO CHANGE THE LAW, HE MEANT THE REAL GOD'S LAW!!!!
jesus is

Rowville, Australia

#21 Aug 1, 2012
EZEKIEL 33:11
'11 Say to them,‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, I TAKE NO PLEASURE IN THE DEATH OF THE WICKED, BUT RATHER THEY TURN FROM THEIR WAYS AND LIVE. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?’

WHY DOES HE TAKE NO PLEASURE IN THE DEATH OF THE WICKED?
Because satan wins their soul plus the soul of the one who murdered.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#22 Aug 1, 2012
if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die.

Now show me just who is keeping all Gods decrees and does what is just and right..
https://www.google.com/search...
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https://www.google.com/search...
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So are Israels leaders and the USA leaders keeping all Gods decrees and doing what is just and right?...
Just look at their track record..
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TO0...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/world/israel/T9UML...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/world/israel/T9UML...
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http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TBS...
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These people are doing right works of justification.
http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TNS...

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