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Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#863 Dec 8, 2012
True Tamil Tiger wrote:
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Then this means that you are a Christian and not a Muslim.
What you just stated is what Jesus- whom I love and respect- would instruct, not pedophile Arab illiterate Mohammed.
Mohammed instructs you to make war and conquer until Islam is the ubiquitous ideology engulfing all corners of this earth. Jihad is a must if you are to be considered a true believer. I can quote Islamic scholars on this.
You are a Muslim in name only. I feel stupid wasting all this time bickering with an untrue Muslim.
But since you were polite- thank you and same to you. All the best in your life.
You are welcome..and I am sorry that you have not had the chance to meet some good muslims.
I am a Muslim.
A true Muslim is a person who is full of love for God and to fellow humans.
Jesus told people to abandon family and follow him. He even insults his parents according to Gospels. He also claims he came to cause division etc. I know pundits will try to re interpret all this to suit them!

Believe me I am an expert on Christianity.

Love attributed to Jesus is all very well but if you actually learn the scriptures you will find a very confusing person in Jesus because Gospels were authored by many who knew not a lot about the "Semitic" or even Abrahamaic (some even say brahma/sarasvati is akin to abraham/sarai!!) way of life.
Parents can love children if they are really mischievous they can give a little sanctioning. That does not mean parents hate kid.
When it comes to propagating a religion, it is not easy others will try to kill you and you have to defend yourself like David Moses and others did.
Unfortunately Jesus did not have the support to defend himself. That is why he was captured sentenced and tortured.
The talk about him being God is all very blasphemous as Jesus NEVER claimed divinity. They writers decided to turn a failure into success by claiming he planned to die etc...but believe me..real study of the religion will prove that liars made up a person who is not jesus.

We have a non-gentile earthly Jesus and then Paul comes up with a gentile risen Christ. I have done a lot of research into all this.

This is my challenge...

Show in the NT where Jesus claims divinity as follows:
"I AM JESUS. I AM YOUR GOD WHO HAS COME TO EARTH IN HUMAN FORM AS MY ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO DIE WILLINGLY IN THE HANDS OF JEWS, FOR THE SINS OF GENTILES AS WELL AS THE ISRAELITES ON A roman CROSS, WHO WILL BE SAVED FOREVER & HAVE ETERNAL LIFE WHEN THEY ACCEPT MY SACRIFICE ON THEIR BEHALF when I go back up to sit on my own right hand to make foot stool of my enemies. I EXPECT NOTHING IN RETURN"

Take care.
Seriously, it is all very well chatting here but you must concentrate on your studies as you did tell friends you were studying for exams.
Take care.
Best
Alex123 aka WM

London, UK

#864 Dec 8, 2012
True Tamil Tiger wrote:
<quoted text>
My issue is with ideology and not people on a singular basis.
Islam is antithetical to human values. If you believe in pluralism, tolerance, and equitable co-existence of all people...you are not a genuine Muslim, Alex. Islam calls for subjugation of Jews/Christians and the religious cleansing of all other faiths from this world.
It is that malignant ideology which is the issue....just like Nazism was 70 years ago.
The subjugation is built into the Jewish scriptures and the new testament is only written along the lines of story book without santion from Jesus himself.
We have to compare likes with likes.
If you are looking for ideology, remember what I said about the three faiths?
Unfortunately there are nutcase muslims who know little about their beautiful religion.
It is a bit like this...
There are nutters who follow their dreams believing to be Muslims.
There are lovely people who follow their dreams believing to be Chrisitans.
BOTH are wrong!!!

I will explain it another time.
This is to ponder upon:

"1- One lot of Abrahamaic people "effectively" believe that "their god" favours only them on the basis of their race/tribe/blood and that their god wants all gentiles utterly destroyed for worshipping "other" gods.
"2- One lot of Abrahamaic people "effectively" believe that the gentile-hating god came in non-gentile human form as his own son to die for the sins of non-gentiles and gentiles!
"3- One lot of Abrahamaic people believe that they cannot own the God who loves sustains all creation. They "effectively" believe that pious people irrespective of their race/colour/nation end up getting promoted in the hereafter! They also believe that God has no equals and that God has no son god or daughter god.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#865 Dec 8, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
lol..
and did Jews kill jesus?
ah the romans did it!
The italians did it!
lol..
Are the gospels wrong then?
The Gospels say the Jews killed him.
The talmud says the jews killed him.
The Jewish sites say Jesus is a false prophet.
Israel does not allow Christianity to take root.
Jesus was a Jew?
Oh ok!!!
But I thought he was God or son of God?
Are all Jews sons of God.
Then tammil tiger is son of monkey according to his north indian light skinned brahmin masters.
The book also says Jesus rose again and sits at the right hand of God.

Where's Mohammed? Having an orgy with Satan.

“Fly low, fly fast.”

Since: Apr 07

East Midlands, UK

#866 Dec 8, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
Not a single educated white person sees a white muslim as worthless!!
..lol
We don't?
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#867 Dec 8, 2012
True Tamil Tiger wrote:
<quoted text>
Then this means that you are a Christian and not a Muslim.
What you just stated is what Jesus- whom I love and respect- would instruct, not pedophile Arab illiterate Mohammed.

Mohammed instructs you to make war and conquer until Islam is the ubiquitous ideology engulfing all corners of this earth. Jihad is a must if you are to be considered a true believer. I can quote Islamic scholars on this.

You are a Muslim in name only. I feel stupid wasting all this time bickering with an untrue Muslim.
But since you were polite- thank you and same to you. All the best in your life.
Jesus was not the only person in the entire history of the world to say that. Many sages, wises men and other Toms, Dicks and harries of the ancient past, have also said the same.

To say that only Jesus said, is silly, absurd and rubbish!

Which great man did ever make such a ridiculous statement that came true and destroyed the peace of the world, Ignorant Tamil Dunce?

" 34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth.
I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

35 For I have come to turn `a man against his father, a daughter
against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law -

36 a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'

37 Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me
is not worthy of me;

anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me
is not worthy of me;

38 and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me
is not worthy of me.

39 Whoever finds his life will lose it,
and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it."
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#868 Dec 8, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
<quoted text>
The book also says Jesus rose again and sits at the right hand of God.
Where's Mohammed? Having an orgy with Satan.
Nobody saw Jesus rising or getting up.

Also nobody saw him sitting at the right hand of God.

The book lies.

After visiting the empty tomb, Peter went back home wondering what had happened!!!!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#869 Dec 8, 2012
True Tamil Tiger wrote:
<quoted text>
My issue is with ideology and not people on a singular basis.
Islam is antithetical to human values. If you believe in pluralism, tolerance, and equitable co-existence of all people...you are not a genuine Muslim, Alex. Islam calls for subjugation of Jews/Christians and the religious cleansing of all other faiths from this world.
It is that malignant ideology which is the issue....just like Nazism was 70 years ago.
Hello, Ignorant Fool

Islam is the savior of Jews. If there were no Islam, the Jews would have become extinct at the hands of European Christians and you would have only been seeing portraits of the Jews in museums. They ran to Islamic lands, Dunce!
bmz

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#870 Dec 8, 2012
Alex123 aka WM wrote:
<quoted text>
You are welcome..and I am sorry that you have not had the chance to meet some good muslims.
I am a Muslim.
A true Muslim is a person who is full of love for God and to fellow humans.
Jesus told people to abandon family and follow him. He even insults his parents according to Gospels. He also claims he came to cause division etc. I know pundits will try to re interpret all this to suit them!
Believe me I am an expert on Christianity.
Love attributed to Jesus is all very well but if you actually learn the scriptures you will find a very confusing person in Jesus because Gospels were authored by many who knew not a lot about the "Semitic" or even Abrahamaic (some even say brahma/sarasvati is akin to abraham/sarai!!) way of life.
Parents can love children if they are really mischievous they can give a little sanctioning. That does not mean parents hate kid.
When it comes to propagating a religion, it is not easy others will try to kill you and you have to defend yourself like David Moses and others did.
Unfortunately Jesus did not have the support to defend himself. That is why he was captured sentenced and tortured.
The talk about him being God is all very blasphemous as Jesus NEVER claimed divinity. They writers decided to turn a failure into success by claiming he planned to die etc...but believe me..real study of the religion will prove that liars made up a person who is not jesus.
We have a non-gentile earthly Jesus and then Paul comes up with a gentile risen Christ. I have done a lot of research into all this.
This is my challenge...
Show in the NT where Jesus claims divinity as follows:
"I AM JESUS. I AM YOUR GOD WHO HAS COME TO EARTH IN HUMAN FORM AS MY ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO DIE WILLINGLY IN THE HANDS OF JEWS, FOR THE SINS OF GENTILES AS WELL AS THE ISRAELITES ON A roman CROSS, WHO WILL BE SAVED FOREVER & HAVE ETERNAL LIFE WHEN THEY ACCEPT MY SACRIFICE ON THEIR BEHALF when I go back up to sit on my own right hand to make foot stool of my enemies. I EXPECT NOTHING IN RETURN"
Take care.
Seriously, it is all very well chatting here but you must concentrate on your studies as you did tell friends you were studying for exams.
Take care.
Best
Just an important note.

Tamil tigers were no decent folks. They believed that violence was the only way to get land and a country of their own. A true Tamil Tiger believes in violence, not peace.

That is why you will find Tamil Tiger sympathetic to the violent regime of Israel and others, who support that country and the Israeli regime.

“Inveterate Islamaphobe”

Since: Jan 12

Canada

#871 Dec 8, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus was not the only person in the entire history of the world to say that. Many sages, wises men and other Toms, Dicks and harries of the ancient past, have also said the same.
To say that only Jesus said, is silly, absurd and rubbish!
Which great man did ever make such a ridiculous statement that came true and destroyed the peace of the world, Ignorant Tamil Dunce?
" 34 Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth.
I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35 -For I have come to turn `a man against his father, a daughter
against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law
36 a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'
37 Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me
is not worthy of me;
anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me
is not worthy of me;
38 and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me
is not worthy of me.
39 Whoever finds his life will lose it,
and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it."
The one key element in this lengthy passage is the word "sword," and its meaning is now clear. It indicates that following Jesus in his original Jewish society may not bring peace to a family, but may "split" it up, the precise function of a metaphorical sword. Are his disciples ready for that? This kind of spiritual sword invisibly severs a man from his father, and daughter from her mother, and so on (Micah 7:6). Given Jesus’ own family resistance early on (they later came around), it is only natural he would say that no matter what the cost, one must follow him to the end, even if it means giving up one’s family. But this applies only if the family rejects the new convert, not if the family accepts him in his new faith; he must not reject them, because the whole point of Jesus’ advent is to win as many people to his side as possible, even if this divides the world in two, but never violently.

Furthermore, we can reference the larger textual context in the Gospel of Matthew. In the Garden of Gethsemane, during the hour when Jesus was betrayed and arrested, Peter struck off the ear of the servant of the high priest in order to protect his Lord. But Jesus tells him to stop.

Matthew 26:52-53 says:

52 "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. 53 Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?" (NIV)

Jesus denounces violence to accomplish the will of God—at least as Peter imagines the will of God. Then Jesus says that he has more than twelve legions of angels at his disposal.

http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arland...

...all this has been clarified by learned Christians BMZ.

Rather than extrapolate a few words from the Gospel and try to establish a short-sighted point, you should focus on comparing the lives and legacies of both Jesus and Mohammed....

Jesus, much like Buddha before him, proved to mankind to be extraordinary. Two men who grew up in feudal societies riddled with conflict and imperialism- yet both managed to conquer the hearts and minds of their disciples with divine love and not the sword and shield....

“Inveterate Islamaphobe”

Since: Jan 12

Canada

#872 Dec 9, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello, Ignorant Fool
Islam is the savior of Jews. If there were no Islam, the Jews would have become extinct at the hands of European Christians and you would have only been seeing portraits of the Jews in museums. They ran to Islamic lands, Dunce!
LOL. Jews were living as second-class citizens under Islamic rule for thousands of years, and were the subject of humiliation and sporadic massacres throughout that time. I can source this info.

Jews also were dispersed in every nook and corner of Europe you moron- places where Islam never set foot.....and you mean to tell me that you guys are the reason for their existence...LOL.

Its not the same as saying that Sikhs are the saviors of Hinduism in North India from the hands of Islamic tyrants- which would be an infallible notion.

“Inveterate Islamaphobe”

Since: Jan 12

Canada

#873 Dec 9, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Just an important note.
Tamil tigers were no decent folks. They believed that violence was the only way to get land and a country of their own. A true Tamil Tiger believes in violence, not peace.
That is why you will find Tamil Tiger sympathetic to the violent regime of Israel and others, who support that country and the Israeli regime.
I have already stated that I do not support Tamil militancy or partitioning land belonging to other people- I don the nic only because of its bad-ass connotations. LOL.

As for supporting Israel- your argument is once again based on presumptions. For instance, when Germany itself supports Israel thoroughly and its right of existence....what more do you need.

“PROUD INFIDEL”

Since: Nov 08

The Crusades got it right!

#874 Dec 9, 2012
abba wrote:
<quoted text>im not stupad paki and we wil c thumdarbutt.haha.islam is in ur county.ur life.ur cultur 4ever.
Blah blah blah!! Take that butt plug out of your mouth and learn how to spell sissy boy!

Since: May 08

Wiesbaden, Germany

#875 Dec 9, 2012
supersonic boom wrote:
remove Israel from the face of the Earth.
Looks like Allah loves Israel!!!!!
Oh Muslims, Ye are no more in Allah's favor.

Allah has changed His mind, forgiven the Jews, and frowns upon you, oh Muslims!

“Proud Southerner”

Since: May 07

Israel, betach b'HaShem!

#876 Dec 9, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello, Ignorant Fool
Islam is the savior of Jews.
Somehow that sentecne doesn't feel right. Unless said in sarcasm.
Love North East Ind

Golaghat, India

#877 Dec 9, 2012
Thunder-Girl wrote:
<quoted text>
Blah blah blah!! Take that butt plug out of your mouth and learn how to spell sissy boy!
Blah Blah Blah.....sissy gal
He is Coming Soon

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#878 Dec 9, 2012

Since: May 08

Wiesbaden, Germany

#879 Dec 9, 2012
He is Coming Soon wrote:
www.scribd.com/doc/22629976/Th ey-Shall-Re...
http://florida.arrests.org/Arrests/Daniel_Dou...
porkfoot muhammad pigbuh

Germany

#881 Dec 9, 2012
i support the civilized (Israel) over barbaric (palestine). as a non-muslim, i prefer Israel because they will give me rights even though i aint a jew. but muslims, you cant trust them. they will strip your rights away. there is no Jew in palestine and palestinian wonder why the world hates them. haha. idiots. even their so called "arab brothers" wont open doors for them in their nations when arabs have a lot of money.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#882 Dec 10, 2012
abba wrote:
<quoted text>stupad girl.we bring te goods news of islam 2 west. thats y all r converting at large rate.fool kafir
converted by terror and coersion is not a conversion. the young girl who was raped by muslims in pakistan and told if she didnt convert to islam she would be killed is an example of your conversion. but no one tells you how many are leaving islam.
PATRIOT

Carmel, ME

#883 Dec 10, 2012
bmz wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello, Ignorant Fool
Islam is the savior of Jews. If there were no Islam, the Jews would have become extinct at the hands of European Christians and you would have only been seeing portraits of the Jews in museums. They ran to Islamic lands, Dunce!
Absolute rubbish!

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