Mis-understanding Islam?
Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#792 Oct 14, 2012
WHO SOMALI CHRISTIAN

Therefore, the Bible gives us PLENTY of reasons to believe that God COULD became a human being without affecting his NATURE, in the same way that taking a cup of water from the ocean doesn’t change the Ocean. HIS HUMAN body still was filled with his DIVINE NATURE. Most of the time when Muslims argue against the FACT of God became a human being; they FOCUS or emphasize on physical, shallow and foolish aspects such:

Dear Somali Christian,
But your, this example or simile does not fit with ocean and small quantity of ocean water in cup. If your means small Quantity of ocean water which is in the cup and resembles to ocean and poring the back to ocean becomes part of ocean. But here Jesus is standing changed one, the sprit and one being human having flesh and bones thus not like water of cup and ocean. Which was as same? Again please what about these questions,

1. God is infinite and man is finite, how can one be finite and infinite at the same time?
2. God is immortal and man is mortal, how can one be mortal or immortal at the same time?
3. God never eats and never needs to go to toilet, how can one do both at the same time?
4. God is not born and never dies, how can one do both these things at the same time?
5) Was He God before and then became man and then CHANGED BACK into God?
6) When He became man, who was running the Universe?
7) God’s knowledge … did He renounced those powers when He became man?

Dear when human thought and corruption once appeared in any scripture you than try to prove it by thousands of examples and similes you never could justifies the same, Your many brothers trying to prove trinity like egg but same also not fits, many try to say that he is like father ,brother and son. Any how please give up foolish thinking and arguments and accept the reality and fact narrated through final message of Almighty God the Quran that Jesus was nothing but a mightiest messenger of Lord almighty Allah..

Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#797 Oct 15, 2012
who="Jinn Martini"]Hey Qadir, why do porkistani copulate with donkeys and goats?
Are porkistani women that bad in bed?
By the way, i had the pleasure to fck three burqa-clad women in Lahore a few years back.
Well, many years back... a couple of years after they strung up Zulfy Bhutto.

Mengal

Dear Jinn Martini"

No Comments.
Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#798 Nov 4, 2012
Quran=21:30

Translation.
"Have not those who disbelieve known that the heaven and the earth were joined together as one united piece then We parted them? And we have made from water every living thing.Will they not then believe."

Mengal

Brother Arnold I was of view that I have given answer of your above question so you would read it and if having any reservations you should have pose an other question, How ever dear the above verse of Quran talks the first action from side of creator to explude or separate whole mass or nebula like a Big Bang , So later on all the mass or material seems was laying or roaming in dis order or cahaous as such the following verse of Quran indicates that earth and heavens created from that dis orderly situation ,let we read the relevant verse,

Quran-verse
41:11 Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience."

Thus now read the next verse41-11 together it that the sky (upper Air) was lying like smoke in between seven firmaments as such Allah said it to join together with earth which in obedience joined with earth.

Where after the rest of the heaven Allah converted in two days in seven firmament as verse41-12 of Quran indicates and out of them lowest heaven connected our system adorned with lights And so than each heaven was assigned to its duty. Dear the above Quran verse does not give any sequence out of above which was first created Quran only narrating the fact of creation, This was my commentary as average Muslim . However it is not correct that earth was created before the stars, perhaps this Quran verse indicates that stars which are faraway from your earth and the the system but He make its light for your system an adornment, Please I am not an scholar of Quran therefore if I have make any mistake in my view than please follow the version of that scholar like Dr,Zakir Naik of Mumbai
Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#799 Nov 4, 2012
Quran=21:30

Translation.
"Have not those who disbelieve known that the heaven and the earth were joined together as one united piece then We parted them? And we have made from water every living thing.Will they not then believe."

Mengal
Dear-- Muhammad bin Lyin
Lowell, MA
The above verse of Quran is related incident of Big Bang theory, all the scholars of Islam or on consensus this fact, it is Quran who 1400 hundred year back clearly pointed out that the present universe prior its present position was lying in mass and nebula like material and in result of expulsion and separation come to existence, as such this fact you only in year 1973 discovered through a group of scientist, so please do not further comment on this verse from his own.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#800 Nov 4, 2012
Qadir mengal wrote:
Quran=21:30
Translation.
"Have not those who disbelieve known that the heaven and the earth were joined together as one united piece then We parted them? And we have made from water every living thing.Will they not then believe."
Mengal
Dear-- Muhammad bin Lyin
Lowell, MA
The above verse of Quran is related incident of Big Bang theory, all the scholars of Islam or on consensus this fact, it is Quran who 1400 hundred year back clearly pointed out that the present universe prior its present position was lying in mass and nebula like material and in result of expulsion and separation come to existence, as such this fact you only in year 1973 discovered through a group of scientist, so please do not further comment on this verse from his own.
OH please!

How many times do we need to point out to you that the Big Bang happened 9 billion years before the formation of the Earth?

And there was no mass until after the BB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_bang
Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#802 Dec 1, 2012
WHO GEORGE WHYTE LO MENGAL IS THE KORAN FOR ALL TIMES AND ALL PLACES, IF THE ANSWERS YES, CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN.
Whogeorge whyte.lo mengal is the koran for all times and all places, if the answers yes, can you please explain.
Why you keep saying things like this verse is for when Muslims did this erect.
Mengal
George Whyte, dear Quran revealed in a certain period, Please all this message would touch those people, And those people were the first persons whom Quran addressed and those persons were Arabs who spread the message, So you definitely find verses which were attached with certain incidents but deduction from message is for benefit of all times, no doubt as I had quoted in giving answers to Yooooo, in regard to give Qurans glade tiding to Muslims that unbelievers though at present becoming happy for success of Persians treating them their brother but soon Allah will make able christens to defeat the Persians.
French Historian and writer Gibbon while highlighting that incident are occurrence had given its account almost in following works
“The Christen Empire of Rome had last Jerusalem to the Persians and Christianity had been humbled in the dust. At the time it seemed out side the sounds of human possibility; looking the inner resources and condition of Persian and Roman Empire and their armies that the table would be turned and position would reversed with in 8 or 9 years.”
The pro, Persian Quriash rejoiced exceedingly and redouble their persecution against the Holy Prophet, whose message was renewal of the message of Christ in Jerusalem. Then passage of Quran V. 1 – 7 revealed, which clearly foreshadows the final defeat of Persia as a preload to the destruction of the Persian Empire after defeat of Roman Empire. Many Pagans as a taunt approach the Abu- Bakar saying that Quran has not prescribed a definite period as such the passage of Quran is nothing but a vague talk, just console the Muslims to take out from humiliation. On that it is stated that the Abu- Bakar told the pagans that this passage of Quran indicates defeat of Persians about with in the 5 years. When this conversion came to the knowledge of Prophet Mohammad (SAW) He told to Haszrat Abu- Bakar that this word, bizahun (in the text meaning used from 3 to 9 years) so you should have to tell the pagans that this defeat would happen with in 9 years. And than World or Muslims and Maccas Qureish or idolaters saw the defeat to their own eyes, though this statement came to console the Muslims but complete and fulfillment of prophecy benefit the all time people who could get guide see and believe.
Holy Quran, Sura xxx,1 to 7.
1. A.L.M
2. Roman Empire Has been defeated-
3- In a land close by but they {even} after
{this} defeat of theirs,
Will soon be victorious-
4. Within a few years- With Allah, is the Decision;
In the Past
And in the future;
On that Day shall
The Believers rejoice
With the help of Allah .
5. He helps whom He will,
And He is Exalted in might,
Most Merciful.
6.[It is] The promise of Allah.
Never does Allah depart
From His promise;
But most men understand not.
7. They know but the outer
[Things] in the life
Of this world; but
Of the End of things
They are heedless.
George white.
Please note the power of Quran.
It is the promise of Allah and never Allah depart from His promise. So men of all time could see and check Quran is word of Allah and final message. However Quran is full of variety of addresses information’s for all time to benefit and get guide,

Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#803 Dec 1, 2012
, let for example pursue these verses , How one could restrict the message of these like verses to a particular time.;

1- In the name of Allah Most,
Gracious, Most Merciful..

2-Praise be to Allah,
The Cherisher and Sustainer of The World;

3-Most Gracious, Most Merciful;.

4-Master of the Day of Judgment

5-Thee do we worship,
And thine aid we seek.

6- Show us the straight way;

7-The way of those one whom
Thou hast bestowed Thy Grace’
Thou, whose (portion)
Is not wrath’
And who go not astray.
Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#805 Dec 2, 2012
WHAT HAPPEN WHEN WE DIE?

Who- Mengal- According to the teachings of Islam any one dies. At the very moment two angels appears or approach him and they put three questions to him.
1- First who is your Lord?
2- Who was your prophet?
3- What is your view about this person (Mohammed),

If you are Muslim you have to say my lord is Allah the creator. My prophet is Mohammed (saw). I have spent my life in obedience of Allah and submit before Him, In other words you have to say there is no God But Allah and Mohammed (saw) is His Prophet, This person was honest one and delivered the message of lord properly.

On giving Satisfactory Answer your soul will be taken to Illiyeen, A higher place of rest and enjoyment, Till the day of judgment. While if you fail to answer satisfactory than your soul will be kept lower place called Sejjen, where your soul have to face torment and torture till the Day of Judgment. And finally when the day of Judgment start, then you will be answerable before Allah according your deeds committed in this world, if your good deeds will be heavy or more than your bad deeds, you will be inter into Garden for ever and if your bad deeds would be heavy or more than your good deeds, you will be thrown in to Hill Fire. As such those would be success that in this world did good deeds and help the humanity and submit before the Allah creator and spent their life according to the teachings of Quran or final revelation or message but those would be losers who denied the final message And Allah the Almighty the creator.

Since: Sep 09

Hollywood, FL

#806 Dec 4, 2012
Allah is Satan
Qadir mengal

Quetta, Pakistan

#807 Dec 7, 2012
who="Mi_nina"]Allah is Satan[

.Mengal

SEE WHO IS ALMIGHTY ALLH

Almost all human beings believe that this universe is created by one Super Power and He is controlling the same. Muslims called this Super Power as Allah, Hindus called it Bagman Jews and Christians called it God, Jesus or Father.

No doubt originally religion of all human being was one and same i.e. to submit before their creator and worship him but later on people corrupted it and adopted different faiths or religions.

Amazingly when the creator of whole universe is one and same irrespective of that He is called Jesus or Father or God, Bagman or Allah than those people who are unreasonably abuse the creator of universe whom people called in different names and different attributes.

According to Islam and Muslims the Allah (creator) is one and whose definition has been given in Holy Quran as follows:-

S.112 1-4 Holy Quran

1. Say: He is Allah the one and only.
2. Allah, The Eternal, Absolute;
3. He begetteth not, Nor is He begotten;
4. And there is none like unto Him.

Holy Quran S.II - 255

Allah! There is no God
But He____ the living
The self-subsisting, Eternal.
No slumber can seize Him
Nor sleep. His are all things
In the heaven and on earth
Who is there can intercede
In His presence except.
As He permitted? He knowth
What (appeareth to His creatures As)
Before or after or behind them.
Nor shall they compass
Aught of His knowledge
Except as He willeth.
His throne doth extend,
Over the heavens
And the earth, and he feeleth
No fatigue in guarding
And preserving them
For he is the most High,
The supreme (in glory).

Holy Quran S. 24 -35

Allah is the light
Of the heavens and earth.
The parable of His light
Is as if there were a niche
And with in it a lamp!
The lamp enclosed in glass;
The glass as it were
A brilliant star;
Lit from a blessed tree
An olive, neither of the east
Nor of the west.
Whose oil is well nigh
Luminous,
Though fire scarce touched it;
Light upon light
Allah doth guide
Whom He will
To His light
Allah doth set for the parables
For men: and Allah
Doth know all things.

S-1, 1-15 Holy Quran

Praise be to Allah
The cherisher & sustainer of
The world;
Most Gracious, Most Merciful;
Master of the day of Judgment
Thee do we worship,
And thine aid we seek
Show us the straight-way;
The way of those on whom
Thou hast bestowed the grace,
Thou whose (portion)
Is not wrath;
And who go not astray.

Qadir mengal

Quetta, Pakistan

#808 Dec 7, 2012
who="Paul WV"]<quoted text>
The koran is a book?????? Are you muslim?.

Mengal.

Yes this is wonder of Koran see/

1- Word “World’’ has been used -115- times in Quran
Word “ Here After” also has been used-115-times in Quran.

2-Word “Life” has been used-145- times in Quran.
Word “Death” has been used-145- times in Quran.

3-word “Satan” has been used-88- times in Quran.
Word “ Angel “has been used -88- times in Quran.

4-Word “Non believe” has been used -25- times in Quran.

Word “Faith” has been used -25 times in Quran.

5-word “Month “ used in Quran -12- times . And months of year are-12- twelve.

6- Word “ Day” used in Quran -365- times. And days of year are -365- days

Since: Sep 09

Hollywood, FL

#809 Dec 7, 2012
words from a book of fairy tales mean nothing to me....

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#810 Dec 7, 2012
Qadir mengal wrote:
who="Paul WV"]<quoted text>
The koran is a book?????? Are you muslim?.
Mengal.
Yes this is wonder of Koran see/
1- Word “World’’ has been used -115- times in Quran
Word “ Here After” also has been used-115-times in Quran.
2-Word “Life” has been used-145- times in Quran.
Word “Death” has been used-145- times in Quran.
3-word “Satan” has been used-88- times in Quran.
Word “ Angel “has been used -88- times in Quran.
4-Word “Non believe” has been used -25- times in Quran.
Word “Faith” has been used -25 times in Quran.
5-word “Month “ used in Quran -12- times . And months of year are-12- twelve.
6- Word “ Day” used in Quran -365- times. And days of year are -365- days
The problem with numerology is that the numerologist gets to make the rules, so they can be twisted to make the numbers work.

There are two problems with the count for the word "Day".

Firstly, there are only 354 days (12 lunar months) in the Muslim calendar as defined by God in the Qur'an.(9:36/7)
[ 9.36 ] Surely the number of months with Allah is twelve months...
[ 9.37 ] Postponing (of the sacred month) is only an addition in unbelief, wherewith those who disbelieve are led astray, violating it one year and keeping it sacred another, that they may agree in the number (of months) that Allah has made sacred, and thus violate what Allah has made sacred; the evil of their doings is made fairseeming to them; and Allah does not guide the unbelieving people.

This is referring to the thirteenth month added some years to lunar calendars so as to correct for the lunar year being 11 days short of the solar year.

Secondly as this article shows,

http://www.answering-islam.org/Religions/Nume...

There are about 445 singular forms of the word "day" in the Qur'an in about 34 different forms.

"It is now possible to determine how he and others came up with a count of 365 days. All the dual (3 mentions) and plural forms (27 mentions) are discarded; all forms with suffixes are discarded, whether they be personal pronouns (10 mentions) or 'idhin ("that")(70 mentions), except that the suffixed alif of the accusative does not exclude the word. This brings the total down to 365 mentions. But note that 80 clearly singular forms have been omitted."

The words that translate as below are counted:

The day
By the day
By a day
And the day
Of a day
And by the day
And a day
A day

These are not:

And that day
That day
Their day
Your day

So why is 'a day' counted but not the more specific 'that day'?

This shows that the numerical miracle of word counting, is all down to selective counting, wishful thinking and the great many variations of Arabic words.
Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#812 Dec 9, 2012
Holy Quran, Sura xxx,1to 7.

1. A.L.M
2. Roman Empire Has been defeated-
3- In a land close by
But they {even} after
{this}defeat of theirs,
Will soon be victorious-
4. Within a few years-
With Allah, is the Decision; In the Past
And in the future; On that Day shall The Believers rejoice with the help of Allah.

5. He helps whom He will; And He is exalted in might, Most Merciful.

6.[It is] The promise of Allah. Never does Allah depart From His promise;
But most men understand not.

7. They know but the outer [Things] in the life of this world; but of the End of things. They are heedless.

This Sura, revealed to Prophet Mohammad (SAW) before Hijra; corresponding year [614-15] of the chasten, in the background when Persians conquest over the Roman Empire.

The Christen Empire of Rome had last Jerusalem to the Persians and Christianity had been humbled in the dust. At the time it seemed out side the sounds of human possibility; looking the inner resources and condition of Persian and roman Empire and their armies, that the table would be turned and position would reversed with in 8 or 9 years.

The pro, Persian Quriash rejoiced exceedingly and redouble their persecution against the Holy Prophet, whose message was renewal of the message of Christ in Jerusalem. Then this passage of Quran V. 1 – 7 revealed, which clearly foreshadowing the final defeat of Persia as a preload to the destruction of the Persian Empire after defeat of Roman Empire. Many Pagans as a taunt approach the Abu- Bakar saying that Quran has not prescribed a definite period as such the passage of Quran is nothing but a vague talk, just console the Muslims to take out from humiliation. On that it is stated that the Abu- Bakar told the pagans that this passage of Quran indicates defeat of Persians about with in the 5 years. When this conversion came to the knowledge of Prophet Mohammad (SAW) He told to Haszrat Abu- Bakar that this word, bizahun (in the text meaning used from 3 to 9 years) so you should have to tell the pagans that this defeat would happen with in 9 years.

Do you understanding. The words “this Is The Promise Of Allah And Never Allah Depart From His Promise", If This defeat, would not happened as Mohammed {SAW} or QURAN had said than what happened, You never find any Muslim on face of earth these and hundred like these verses of Quran shows that Quran is word of Allah, Please better is to accept Islam and save yourselves from Hell. The fuel of it would be stones iron and arrogant persons who reject the authority of creator
raj

India

#813 Dec 9, 2012
wat about 72 virgins ???
Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#815 Jan 10, 2013
who="raj"]wat about 72 virgins ???

Mengal

Dear Raj,
According to Quran, there is enjoyment in paradise for both men and women, even in paradise each of them get partner or having companion of equal age, in this connection there is a no any distinction or any restriction which you observe here in this world.‘Haour’ word is used for spouses and for both men and women. Word force or slavery comes when any woman to be forced for sex other than her wish, while for every person who inters in paradise there for every thing which he/ she desire or ask would be available. But question is why when you desire here in this world any partner of his or her own wish, having objection if same is provided there without any restriction.
Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#816 Jan 10, 2013
Those who interested in life of Mohammad as a prophet or other wise come and visit the thread” Qadir mengal Miss understanding islam”An important series about the life of Mohammad(saw) is being started, from page 34 of topix this series will go number wise just as 1 (2) 3 … along with mentioning the thread number where the series is located.So as Qadir mengal also (insha Allah) will give you the answers about your questions and Queries about islam.
Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#817 Jan 10, 2013
AN IMPORTANT SERIES ABOUT MUHAMMAD (SAW) PROPHET OF ISLAM

1. The life of Muhammad (SAW) and all those incidents which occurred in his life indicate nothing but that Muhammad was a Prophet or Messenger of Allah (the God Almighty).
A reader irrespective of that what is the message or teachings of Muhammad (SAW) and what he was preaching, he only look all incidents which occurred in his short life, he surely would admit that Muhammad (SAW) was no more but a Prophet or Messenger.
To prove this fact, I have decided to mention some incidents from his message and life which definitely would convince you to exclaim that Mohammad is messenger of Allah(God).
PART-I

2- The First part has been arranged from the incidents which narrated in Qur’an (the last massage) brought by Muhammad (SAW), which shows nothing but that Muhammad (SAW) is a Prophet.

The second part contains the comments of non-Muslim and scholars showing that last Message (Qur’an) was not of Muhammad’s own creation.

The third part of this series contains the facts which collected from Serah, history ,and from Ahadith, showing that Mohammad is backed by a super power and these facts could not be present an ordinary person, Thus, for all those, who searching the truth, are invited or call upon to come, examine or Judge these facts. I am of firm opinion, whoever, without prejudice in open mind would Judge these facts, and he surely would exclaimed like, Famous Japanese Wrestler Anoki,
“That after accepting Islam, his long journey to search truth from today has been ended.”
Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#818 Jan 10, 2013
(2)
3. Before, I do mention above facts, I deem necessary to give brief life sketch of Muhammad (SAW).The Muhammad (SAW) born in 571 AD, in Mecca,(A city of Saudi Arabia) six moths before born, his father expired. It was custom of Arabia that born babies were sent to villages, so Muhammad (SAW) was also handed over to Mai Haleema to foster and bring up Muhammad (SAW). Muhammad (SAW) remained with Mai Haleema for four years, when Muhammad (SAW) reached in the age of six years, his mother also died, where after, he came in charge of his grandfather Abdul Mutalib, but he also two years later died. Now Muhammad (SAW) came into the house of his uncle Abu Talib, Abu Talib was monitory not sound, as such, Muhammad (SAW) for some period grazed cattle (goat and sheep), when Muhammad (SAW) reached in the age of fifteen years, he accompanied his uncle Abu Talib to Syria for trade purposes, however, in the middle of their journey a Christian (Priest) saw the boy (Muhammad (SAW)) and he pointed out some signs in Muhammad (SAW) and advised his uncle that he would carry the boy back, as the Jews may not notice these signs and they would not harm this boy. Abu Talib then worried, as such, instead of going Syria, sold all his commodities there and then returned back.
Qadir mengal

Islamabad, Pakistan

#819 Jan 10, 2013
(3)
Now the youth age of Muhammad (SAW) started. According to customs of Arabia all young or youth were involved in alcohol, worshiping of idols, running behind women and so as murder but Muhammad (SAW) was spending this life away from all these evils with extreme honesty and truthfulness, as such, he has known and called the Ammeen (the honest), Sadiq (the truthful). The news of his good character traveled near and far, whereupon, a well known wealthy woman Khadija requested Muhammad (SAW) through her man to take her Karwan of trade to Syria. Muhammad (SAW) being in charge took the commodities and returned with huge profits. The lady Khadija impressed of his dealing and then she through her servant Mesara, sent or conveyed the Muhammad (SAW) the invitation to marry with her. Muhammad (SAW) consulted his uncle Abu Talib and other relatives and after their approval Muhammad (SAW) entered into marriage with Khadija. The age of Muhammad (SAW) was 25 years, while Khadija was of 40 years, when this marriage took place.
5. When Muhammad (SAW) reached in the age of 40 years, he used to remain alone and started spending lonely life. He then used to go cave “Hira”, which is today known as “Mountain of Light”, Muhammad (SAW) used to spend two or three days there and come back to house. One day in Hira “Mountain of Light” an Angle appeared to him, who is known as “Gabriel”, who asked Muhammad (SAW) to read, Muhammad (SAW) told him that he does not know reading, however, the Angle asked him to follow the first verse, which Angle Gabriel revealed to Muhammad (SAW) reads as follow:
“Proclaim or read in the name of Thy Lord and Cherisher, who created.”
This was the first revelation descend to Muhammad (SAW).

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