Abbas: Jerusalem Is Ours

Abbas: Jerusalem Is Ours

There are 51 comments on the www.breitbart.com story from Dec 2, 2012, titled Abbas: Jerusalem Is Ours. In it, www.breitbart.com reports that:

Finally, those in the West can take their blinders off. Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas has taken off the veil and articulated what the real war is between Islam and the West: not a war over the land of Israel but the religious war between radical Islam on one side and Judaism and Christianity on the other ...

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Frijoles

Madison, CT

#24 Dec 3, 2012
I can read wrote:
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You clearly missed the point that ownership of the land is a point of law and has nothing whatsoever to do with which fairy tales you personally believe.
If you want to go by land ownerships alone you will discover that most of Israel was purchased legally from the Ottomans. I wouldnt go there if I was you.

Personally I think you best argument isnt a legal argument, but a practical argument. There are a boatload of Arabs living in the region, and some type of accomodation has to do be made. Two states for two peoples.
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#25 Dec 3, 2012
Joe DeCaro wrote:
from breitbart:
"By claiming Jerusalem will be the 'eternal' capital of 'Palestine,' Abbas is not only invalidating Jewish history, but also invalidating Christian history which branched off from its Jewish heritage. The Christian Biblical history acknowledges ancient Jewish claims to the land. From time immemorial Jerusalem was acknowledged as the capital of Israel, with countless references in the Bible and Prophets, as opposed to the Koran, where Jerusalem is never mentioned ..."
He just invited the worst asskicking from over half the world he and the Palestinians will ever have happen to them.

Personally, I'm ready to get it on.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#26 Dec 3, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Ummm....where we you from 48-67 when Jordanians controlled the city and wouldnt let Jews into it? Why are you concerned with internationalization NOW? And what agreement was broken by Israel? If I recollect, it accepted the UN partition but was then attacked in 48 and fought back.
Perhaps you need to read your history.
Israel came out of the '48 war much better than Palestine did so what exactly is your point?
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#27 Dec 3, 2012
Mawar wrote:
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From what I can see, the freedom that you defend are first about man murdering own family members followed by own suicide, and second about man mounting and penetrating another man.
We Muslim will eradicate these corruptions.
Have you ever contemplated "reverse eradication" of Muslims?
PATRIOT

San Antonio, TX

#28 Dec 3, 2012
B_Girl_Turco wrote:
Jarusalem is everyone's , not only arabs , not only jews , not only others .
The Palestinians say no. I guess we Christians are going to have to take a side, huh? See where you and your kind have pushed the world to?
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#29 Dec 3, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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If you want to go by land ownerships alone you will discover that most of Israel was purchased legally from the Ottomans. I wouldnt go there if I was you.
Personally I think you best argument isnt a legal argument, but a practical argument. There are a boatload of Arabs living in the region, and some type of accomodation has to do be made. Two states for two peoples.
There already is a two state solution called the partition plan for palestine.

PS How can a state which didn't exist until 1945 buy land from one which ended in 1923?
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#30 Dec 3, 2012
PATRIOT wrote:
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The Palestinians say no. I guess we Christians are going to have to take a side, huh? See where you and your kind have pushed the world to?
Israel has been saying Jerusalem is theirs for decades.
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#31 Dec 3, 2012
I can read wrote:
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Israel came out of the '48 war much better than Palestine did so what exactly is your point?
The previous poster was trying to make the claim that Israel broke some type of international agreement, and I was not so gently reminding them of the actual history.

I agree that Palestine didnt do so great post 48. They let themselves be occupied by Jordan.
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#32 Dec 3, 2012
I can read wrote:
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There already is a two state solution called the partition plan for palestine.
PS How can a state which didn't exist until 1945 buy land from one which ended in 1923?
It wasnt the state that bought the land. Much of the land was bought by individuals legally from the previous state during its rule.

I am in favor of a two state solution so you will have no arguments from me against that. But how you negotiate peace with a party that wants to throw the first party into the sea seems to be a relatively insurmountable problem.
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#33 Dec 3, 2012
I can read wrote:
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Israel has been saying Jerusalem is theirs for decades.
And Jewish people have been saying it for generations. And if you use the daily prayer litturgy as one line of evidence for this assertion, then they have been saying it for at least 2000 years.
Bob

Needham, MA

#34 Dec 3, 2012
Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Israel allows all religions to come to Jerusalem.When Jordan controled Jerusalem Jews were not allowed to go there.Israel must continue to build homes and schools in thier capital city
abba

Mesquite, NV

#35 Dec 3, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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It wasnt the state that bought the land. Much of the land was bought by individuals legally from the previous state during its rule.
I am in favor of a two state solution so you will have no arguments from me against that. But how you negotiate peace with a party that wants to throw the first party into the sea seems to be a relatively insurmountable problem.
israel has takin our lands. we want it back.they stole land and still r ocupier. can u get that in ur stupad head?
george whyte

Market Rasen, UK

#36 Dec 3, 2012
I can read wrote:
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Israel has been saying Jerusalem is theirs for decades.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/ 2012/12/03/while-britain-is-co nsidering-recalling-its-ambass ador-to-israel-in-protest-of-i sraels-building-new-homes-in-i ts-capital-jerusalem/ttlementi tisthecapitalofisrael-vi-3/
george whyte

Market Rasen, UK

#37 Dec 3, 2012
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#38 Dec 3, 2012
abba wrote:
<quoted text>israel has takin our lands. we want it back.they stole land and still r ocupier. can u get that in ur stupad head?
Actually, I cant

Go back and reread history.

And learn how to type. This isnt twitter.
Fred

Edmonton, Canada

#39 Dec 3, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
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Ummm....where we you from 48-67 when Jordanians controlled the city and wouldnt let Jews into it? Why are you concerned with internationalization NOW? And what agreement was broken by Israel? If I recollect, it accepted the UN partition but was then attacked in 48 and fought back.
Perhaps you need to read your history.
in 47.. israeli gangs started its cleansing in many villages on land were the UN was to declare to be theirs.. and killed/expelled thousands of Palestinians men, women, and children before any arab countries tried to come to their rescue..

in 67, it was israel that was first to cross its borders and attack egypt..if you want to pretend you are a historian, do not be bias..

peace out and stay safe
Mawar

Nibong Tebal, Malaysia

#40 Dec 3, 2012
Fred wrote:
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in 47.. israeli gangs started its cleansing in many villages on land were the UN was to declare to be theirs.. and killed/expelled thousands of Palestinians men, women, and children before any arab countries tried to come to their rescue..
in 67, it was israel that was first to cross its borders and attack egypt..if you want to pretend you are a historian, do not be bias..
peace out and stay safe
Muslims are going to recapture Jerusalem like we did in 637 and 1187. Last time it was a frontier where Islam met Christian. This time it is way, way inside the realm of Muslim empire. Never mind all the history, when we get it, they will shut up.
Frijoles

Madison, CT

#41 Dec 3, 2012
Fred wrote:
<quoted text>
in 47.. israeli gangs started its cleansing in many villages on land were the UN was to declare to be theirs.. and killed/expelled thousands of Palestinians men, women, and children before any arab countries tried to come to their rescue..
in 67, it was israel that was first to cross its borders and attack egypt..if you want to pretend you are a historian, do not be bias..
peace out and stay safe
Incorrect as usual

Look at the 49 Armistice Lines. Jordan seized a lot of what was slated for Palestine. Blame them, not Israel.

There are no 67 borders. They were never recognized by any authority. The only recognized border was the 49 line.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#42 Dec 3, 2012
B_Girl_Turco wrote:
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this is not problem for me , if jews want to sit there it is their right , but you cannot kill innocent people ...
Tell that to your co-religionists in Gaza who were firing rockets into Israel and are now restocking during the ceasefire.
I can read wrote:
<quoted text>
You clearly missed the point that ownership of the land is a point of law ...
If you think that laws can stop missiles then you're the one telling fairy tales.
Mawar wrote:
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I only need to look at the past, to think of the future ...
... so you think Spain should be called Andalusia?

Look at a modern map and think again.
CommonSense

Bowling Green, KY

#43 Dec 3, 2012
That land has been ruled and conquered by one entity or the other for thousands of years. It's said the possession is nine tenths of the law. I say, if you want it, come and get it. But don't whine when I defend myself.

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