Since: Apr 12

Martinez, CA

#1 Dec 31, 2012
Introduction

Can America still count on one of its most important allies in the Arab world - Saudi Arabia? Or does an undercurrent of militant Islamic fundamentalism threaten the stability of both Saudi Arabia and the entire region? FRONTLINE and The New York Times explore these and other questions in "Saudi Time Bomb?"

Through interviews with U.S. and Saudi officials, political analysts, religious experts, and observers, this report outlines the history of U.S.-Saudi relations, the internal problems and contradictions within Saudi society, the growing Islamic fundamentalist movement that threatens Saudi Arabia's stability, and the troubling connections between Saudi Arabia and some Islamic religious schools, or "madrassas," which propagate an extreme form of Islam, known as Wahhabism, throughout the Muslim world.

"Saudi Time Bomb?" explores how Wahhabism is one of the undercurrents of Islamic extremism. This form of Islam, rooted in Saudi Arabia, is based on a particularly austere, literal interpretation of the Koran.(Critics say that Wahhabism's rigidity makes it open to misinterpretation and distortion.) Observers say some madrassas -- though intended to spread literacy among underprivileged youth through study of the Koran - have evolved into Wahhabi schools that use the Koran to justify waging war against non-believers.

FRONTLINE chronicles how these madrassas grew into the thousands during the ten-year Afghan war against the Soviets. And how - because of the nature of that war - the madrassas, most notably in Pakistan, became training centers for jihad.

"They were recruiting, organizing schools which used Islamic ideology as a way of creating a very efficient guerrilla army," says Vali Nasr, an authority on Islamic fundamentalism. "You have the whole rise, if you would, of Islamic West Points."

Exploring the far-flung influence of Wahhabism, FRONTLINE tells the story of an impoverished boy from the Comoros Islands, Haroun Fazul. Schooled by a Wahhabi cleric at a madrassa, he received a scholarship to study at a Wahhabi madrassa in Pakistan, and from there went on to join Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. In 1998, he bombed the U.S. embassy in Nairobi, Kenya.

This report also examines the role of Saudi charities in funding some of these madrassas; the Wahhabi sect's close ties to the Taliban, many of whom were educated in Saudi-financed madrassas in Pakistan; and the current tensions between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia arising from the kingdom's seeming reluctance to cooperate in the war on terrorism.

In his interview with FRONTLINE in late September, the Saudi ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, maintained that the kingdom's relationship with the United States remains strong. Yet former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft concedes that there is much resentment among Saudis and other Arabs over America's strong support of Israel. And U.S. policymakers say there is also lingering resentment over the presence of U.S. troops stationed in Saudi Arabia. But both Scowcroft and former Secretary of State James Baker maintain that America's Saudi-based troops are necessary to protect the region and its vast reserves of oil, on which the United States economy depends.

www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi

Interviews with Saudis, former u.s. policymakers and middle east political and religious experts

www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/...

Analysis:

www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/...

Analysis: Wahhabism

www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/...

Analysis: Saudi religious education

www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/...

Analysis: Madrasses

www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/...

Analysis: US - Saudi relations

www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/...

The Journey of Haroun Fazul

www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saudi/...

and more

“Alea iacta est!”

Since: Oct 06

Oh it's ON!

#2 Jan 1, 2013
Will look at this, Thanks Rusty!
Frank ly

Secaucus, NJ

#3 Jan 1, 2013
what a bunch or cretins you guys are.

Where is wilberhum the liar?

Can any of you let me know in which forum his youngest daughter is posting and under what screen name?

Thanks.

Since: Apr 12

Martinez, CA

#4 Jan 2, 2013
Trisha wrote:
Will look at this, Thanks Rusty!
well, just don't expect PBS to be JihadWatch.... all it will do is to separate Wahhabism from "peaceful" Islam. But still the info will still let people ponder what's wrong about "fundamental" Islam - especially in its birthplace where they should be most qualified to interpret Quran.

“Blessed on Earth n under It.”

Since: Oct 10

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#5 Jan 2, 2013
Rusty
your country need to respect others and do not try to interfere in peoples' beliefs and lives. We are 'our faith' Our faith is not to be touched or discussed . It's ours not 'yours' Stay away from it ..Our faith is our being.
america knows about the many Saudis who left 'luxury' and went far away and sacrificed their lives for their 'faith'...at that time, america encouraged it during cold war,...Just put in mind how many are ready to do the same if any crazy tried to threat our country or our religion.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#6 Jan 2, 2013
Scent of Memories wrote:
We are 'our faith' Our faith is not to be touched or discussed . It's ours not 'yours' Stay away from it ...
Then simply keep your sacrosanct islamic faith to yourselves and stop spreading it by jihad.

“Blessed on Earth n under It.”

Since: Oct 10

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#7 Jan 2, 2013
stay in your countries and don't interfere in ours and no one will care about you.
ah and btw, stop supporting the sop called 'israel'
Joe DeCaro wrote:
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Then simply keep your sacrosanct islamic faith to yourselves and stop spreading it by jihad.

“Alea iacta est!”

Since: Oct 06

Oh it's ON!

#8 Jan 2, 2013
Scent of Memories wrote:
Rusty
your country need to respect others and do not try to interfere in peoples' beliefs and lives. We are 'our faith' Our faith is not to be touched or discussed . It's ours not 'yours' Stay away from it ..Our faith is our being.
america knows about the many Saudis who left 'luxury' and went far away and sacrificed their lives for their 'faith'...at that time, america encouraged it during cold war,...Just put in mind how many are ready to do the same if any crazy tried to threat our country or our religion.
ROFLMAO!!!

Dream on....

Since: Apr 12

Martinez, CA

#9 Jan 2, 2013
Scent of Memories wrote:
Rusty
your country need to respect...
But Scent, you country have yet to gain it... but I suggest it first work on overcoming the overwhelming disrespect...(one step at a time).
Mawar

Nibong Tebal, Malaysia

#10 Jan 3, 2013
There is nothing wrong with 'Wahhabism' and there is nothing wrong with the saudi arabs.
Whats wrong is probably with the semi-official practices in the country. I think income tax system should be introduced. So the people will have a sense of belonging.
Americans should be sent home - all of them. Not one single American should be allowed to stay. Well, the Muslims can stay of course for study and visit. But all US military people should go home. Why stay in a Muslim country when all they do is antagonize Muslims and help Israelis to kill women and children?
True, saudi princes and princesses flout their wealth and live senseless lives that are out of this world. But saudi arabs are known for their generosity and heroic bravery in the battle fields.
May Allah keep the good ones if the bad ones are to be removed.

Since: Apr 12

Concord, CA

#11 Jan 3, 2013
Mawar wrote:
There is nothing wrong with 'Wahhabism' and there is nothing wrong with the saudi arabs.
Whats wrong is probably with the semi-official practices in the country. I think income tax system should be introduced. So the people will have a sense of belonging.
Americans should be sent home - all of them. Not one single American should be allowed to stay. Well, the Muslims can stay of course for study and visit. But all US military people should go home. Why stay in a Muslim country when all they do is antagonize Muslims and help Israelis to kill women and children?
True, saudi princes and princesses flout their wealth and live senseless lives that are out of this world. But saudi arabs are known for their generosity and heroic bravery in the battle fields.
May Allah keep the good ones if the bad ones are to be removed.
are you being watched by Malaysia government?

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/a...

KUALA LUMPUR, July 31 — Wahhabism and Shia Islam are key threats to Malaysia’s security and should be kept under close watch to ensure they do not lead to extremism, a Department of Islamic Development (Jakim) official has said...
CharlieDarwin

London, UK

#12 Jan 4, 2013
what a bunch or cretins you guys are.
Where is wilberhum the liar?
Can any of you let me know in which forum his youngest daughter is posting and under what screen name?

What the hell are you raving about- let us sane people in on the secret!
CharlieDarwin

London, UK

#13 Jan 4, 2013
Nothing wrong with Wahabbism; leave our religion alone; saudi arabs are nice guys...
Islam is in desperate need of a strong dose of truth and reality. We are well aware of Islamic ambition- jihad in its many forms to infiltrate and destroy civilisation and replace it with primitivism and the utter madness of the koran. NO WAY! You delusional Islamists are headed for annihilation.
Western technology can eliminate Islam overnight, starting with Mecca, then Medina and progressing to wherever the next Allahu' Ahkbar comes from!
Iran, Hamas, Hizbullah; the Palestinians, Yemen, Pakistan, everywhere this foul ideology holds sway. It worked for Japanese militarism so why not for Islam?
Just keep pushing us... we are ready and willing to help you on your way to Paradise and 72 dark- eyed houri. Insh'allah.
CharlieDarwin

London, UK

#14 Jan 4, 2013
But Scent, you country have yet to gain it... but I suggest it first work on overcoming the overwhelming disrespect...(one step at a time)

How can you demand respect for an ideology of supremacy, jew hatred, infidel hatred, christian hatred, woman hatred and every other kind of hatred imaginable?? No, respect is the wrong word- utter contempt is what you deserve.

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