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Why are there 50,000 errors in the Bible?

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Zulfiqar

Montgomery Village, MD

#1 Sep 13, 2011
Because as the old saying goes, too many cooks spoil the broth...
bmz

La Jolla, CA

#2 Sep 13, 2011
no one tell you about surah 10.94a. this is how filthy goon bastard mohammad did it for islam. who told turd mohammad to write the quran.....how many were there.

this is how turd mohammad hijack started islam. you need only one goon bastard terrorist to start it all.

Al-Qaeda chief says 9/11 paved way for Arab Spring

CAIRO (AP)- In a message on Tuesday marking the Sept 11 anniversary, Al-Qaeda's new leader sought to claim credit for this year's Arab uprisings, saying the 2001 attacks on the United States paved the way for the 'Arab volcano' sweeping the region a decade later.

Ayman al-Zawahri and other Al-Qaeda figures have issued a number of messages seeking to associate themselves with the Arab uprisings that toppled autocratic leaders in his native Egypt, as well as Tunisia and Libya, and which threaten others. In the messages, they urge Arabs to replace toppled regimes with Islamic rule.

The wave of unrest transforming the Middle East, however, was largely the work of young, peaceful protesters seeking democratic freedoms, and political observers say it showed the failure of Al-Qaeda's extremist ideology and how out of touch the terror group is with Arab youth.

'By striking the head of the world criminal,' Al-Qaeda forced America to press its allies in the Middle East to change their policies, which helped the 'Arab volcano' to build up and explode, al-Zawahri said in the hour-long audio message.
MSGS

Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

#3 Sep 13, 2011
Zulfiqar wrote:
Because as the old saying goes, too many cooks spoil the broth...
Too many indeed. According to According to ... who themselves never witness any single events they wrote down.

a tin of campbell soup from Malaysia and Singapore are more original than according to according gospel accounts in comparison.
Jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#4 Sep 14, 2011
BIBLE CONTRADICTIONS ANSWERED:
http://thedevineevidence.com/skeptic_contradi...
Jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#5 Sep 14, 2011
EVIDENCE FOR GOD - BIBLE CONTRADICTIONS ANSWERED:
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/cont...
Jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#6 Sep 14, 2011
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ABOUT THE BIBLE:
http://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/questions.h...
Jesus is

Blacktown, Australia

#7 Sep 14, 2011
50,000 ERRORS IN THE BIBLE?

'Muslim's, in a desperate effort to locate any scrap that says the Bible contained errors, frequently quote from an article written by Jehovah's witnesses with the title, "50,000 errors in a Bible". First we point out that this non-Christian cult had just released their own Bible called "the New World translation ". It is more a sectarian paraphrase of the Bible, than a true translation, which has been universally condemned as a perversion of the original Greek and Hebrew by everyone who is not a member of this cult':
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-bible-50000-e...

Alen

Warminster, UK

#8 Sep 15, 2011
Zulfiqar wrote:
Because as the old saying goes, too many cooks spoil the broth...
Yeah but 50,000 errors ....? That's a lot!
Alen

Warminster, UK

#9 Sep 15, 2011
Jesus is wrote:
50,000 ERRORS IN THE BIBLE?
'Muslim's, in a desperate effort to locate any scrap that says the Bible contained errors, frequently quote from an article written by Jehovah's witnesses with the title, "50,000 errors in a Bible". First we point out that this non-Christian cult had just released their own Bible called "the New World translation ". It is more a sectarian paraphrase of the Bible, than a true translation, which has been universally condemned as a perversion of the original Greek and Hebrew by everyone who is not a member of this cult':
http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-bible-50000-e...
How many authors wrote today's Bible? This is not an attack of the book, this is an attack on the enemies of prophet Jesus.
Holy Shiite

Hoboken, NJ

#10 Sep 15, 2011
Zulfiqar wrote:
Because as the old saying goes, too many cooks spoil the broth...
Join us in Pakistan. Leave the land of the Infidel.

A bomb attack at the funeral of a tribal elder has killed at least 15 people in a volatile region of north-west Pakistan, police say.

The blast took place in a village close to the Afghan border in Lower Dir, an area which has witnessed considerable militant activity in the past.

No group has said they carried out the attack.

It comes just days after gunmen ambushed a school bus near the north-western city of Peshawar, killing six.

Lower Dir borders the Swat valley where the Pakistani army in 2009 launched a massive operation to crack down on the Taliban.

Samarbagh, the district where the latest attack took place, is an area where locals have raised tribal volunteer militias, known as peace committees, to defend themselves against Taliban attacks.

The BBC's M Ilyas Khan in Islamabad says militants have launched a number of attacks in the area, and some locals are saying this latest bombing may be a reprisal for the tribal militia.

Funerals of tribal leaders in the north-west have been targeted by militants before.

In February 2009 at least 25 people died in a bomb attack at the funeral of a Shia Muslim cleric who had been gunned down just days earlier in the restive district of Dera Ismail Khan.
Holy Shiite

Hoboken, NJ

#11 Sep 15, 2011
Jesus is wrote:
EVIDENCE FOR GOD - BIBLE CONTRADICTIONS ANSWERED:
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/cont...
Islam here is the result of islam..

A bomb attack at the funeral of a tribal elder has killed at least 15 people in a volatile region of north-west Pakistan, police say.

The blast took place in a village close to the Afghan border in Lower Dir, an area which has witnessed considerable militant activity in the past.

No group has said they carried out the attack.

It comes just days after gunmen ambushed a school bus near the north-western city of Peshawar, killing six.

Lower Dir borders the Swat valley where the Pakistani army in 2009 launched a massive operation to crack down on the Taliban.

Samarbagh, the district where the latest attack took place, is an area where locals have raised tribal volunteer militias, known as peace committees, to defend themselves against Taliban attacks.

The BBC's M Ilyas Khan in Islamabad says militants have launched a number of attacks in the area, and some locals are saying this latest bombing may be a reprisal for the tribal militia.

Funerals of tribal leaders in the north-west have been targeted by militants before.

In February 2009 at least 25 people died in a bomb attack at the funeral of a Shia Muslim cleric who had been gunned down just days earlier in the restive district of Dera Ismail Khan.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#12 Sep 15, 2011
Zulfiqar wrote:
Because as the old saying goes, too many cooks spoil the broth ...
How many "cooks" were needed to compose the qu'ran for the illiterate Mohammed?
bmz

La Jolla, CA

#13 Sep 15, 2011
but who told turd mohammad to write the quran.....

Evidence of Multiple Qur'anic Versions

Muslim source materials report that at least four different versions of the Qur’an existed before the political order was given to have them burned.(Refer to "Al-Tamhid 2, 247).

The four versions were written by people who knew Muhammad in person. Each person created their unique version of the Qur’an. Based on Muslims sources, the differences were serious enough to cause Muslims to be divided. The Islamic source "K. al Masahif" reports differences so serious as to cause one Muslim group to call another group heretics:

During the reign of `Uthman, teachers were teaching this or that reading to their students. When the students met and disagreed about the reading, they reported the differences to their teachings. They would defend their readings, condemning the others as heretical.'[Abu Bakr `Abdullah b. abi Da'ud, "K. al Masahif]

So a political decision was made to have only one Qur’an. This did not go over well with the original people who created their unique version of the Qur’an. Who were these chosen people?

Muslim source materials reveal some of these select people who are known to have created their unique version of the Qur'an.(Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 150).[Search on the referenced site to find the number "150" if you want to verify the written literature].
Gumby

Quispamsis, Canada

#14 Sep 15, 2011
Alen wrote:
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Yeah but 50,000 errors ....? That's a lot!
Alen- the evil spirit waiting drooling in this forum to pounce on such untruths. Alan the Shaitan-
There are no mistakes in the Bible, since the omnipotent God who Created all things gave His Holy Word through His prophets, moving them to write by His holy Spirit. Peter said: "No prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." 2Peter 1:20,21.

What some may not realize is that probably every challenge that might be brought, as appearing as a mistake, has been answered by good Bible scholars. Controversy exists, yet good scholarship should prevail in examining any such claims.

God said that He would preserve His Holy Word: "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation forever." Psalm 12:6,7. Jesus Christ, God's Son, said: "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matthew 5:18. Also, He said: "Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away." Luke 21:33.

Psalm 119:89 says: "Forever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven."

We have today approximately 6000 Byzantine Greek Manuscripts, which were carefully copied and match very well to the Textus Receptus Manuscript. These and other comparative sources were used to translate the King James Version New Testament, the Hebrew Masoretic Text being used for the Old Testament. This Hebrew Text went through unique accuracy procedures, guaranteeing the validity of the original wittings. We still have this text today.

The same God, who gave the Scriptures, promises to keep them and has the power to do so.
Alen-why you cling to a Christian name?You have no courage to post in your original Soamali Muslim name?Wear a bra and a purdha!! If you are a true Muslim,and ready to give even your life to Islam, reveal your Somali Islamic name.Otherwise accept you are a bloody coweard living in a Christian country for the free welfare dole money you get.-
Gumby

Quispamsis, Canada

#15 Sep 15, 2011
PLAGIARISM IN THE QURAN
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There is very little in the Quran which is original thinking. Practically all of it is “borrowed” from older times, or from surrounding cultures. The laws mainly are from old Arab traditions, added by some ideas from mainly the Jews, the Christians and Persia. Also ethical and moral ideas came from the same sources - partly originally from Hellas.(But then Islam never really had a philosophy of moral or ethics - they never were interested in knowledge for the sake of knowledge and actively fought against things like philosophy - a war Islam won in 1095 with a book ("The Incoherence of the Philosophers") attacking just philosophy and written by “the second greatest Muslim after Muhammad” Abu Hamid Muhammad ibn Muhammad al-Ghazali (1058 - 1111), actually not an Arab, but from Persia. They instead followed the few and sometimes inhuman orders in the Quran). And the same goes for knowledge and science - mainly from Hellas and Persia and some from India. But actually knowledge and science was in short supply at the times of Muhammad - translation of the old books had started, f. ex. in Persia - a country the Arabs had a lot of contact with, but much of the translation to Arab came much later (from around 820 AD). All the same some of the old knowledge from Greece, Persia and India was known also in Arabia, and was the science the Arabs believed in at the time of Muhammad.

At the times of Muhammad Arabia simply was in a permanent barbaric state with little education except the basic learning - and that mostly for the "better" families - and with the tribes constantly fighting each other in a real anarchism. The only form of art that existed was storytelling and poetry. The country was even more barbaric than the worst places in north Pakistan and Afghanistan and Africa today.(This may be a reason why Islam had success in Arabia after it was changed to a war religion - the Arabs were by culture - or rather by anarchism - warriors by heart because that was they had been brought up to become, and a war religion fitted their not-culture. Barbarism is not a culture, no matter what semi-intellectuals say).

In such situations Muhammad was not to blame for stealing good ideas from the surroundings - actually not to do so would just be stubborn stupidity - like what you see some places even today: Everything from the outside, and especially from the west, is bad, instead of picking the good ideas and leaving the bad ones. Muhammad - or Allah - was wise enough to try to pick the known ideas from where he found them.

But Muhammad was no thinker himself (sorry, but hardly any real scientist today believes the Quran was made by a god - nothing points towards a god, everything towards Muhammad and/or human helpers). And also in the Quran there is little or nothing of original stuff. The stories are all taken from other sources known in Arabia at that time (why should a god do so?)

Much is taken from the Bible, but “adjusted” to fit Muhammad’s teaching, though much of this really is not from the real Bible, but from religious fairy tales and folk tales or from texts made up by different fringe sects - Gnostics f. ex. made up quite a number of “gospels” and other “holy” stories. If we say that Muhammad made up the Quran himself, it is easy to see why he frequently missed here:

1.He did not know much about Jewish religion, until after he came to Medina, and then it was too late.
2.He never knew much about the Christian religion.
3.Perhaps he did not know how to read, and for sure he never had a Bible.
4.There was a myriad of stories and poems also about religious subjects in Arabia - as we said storytelling (and story making) and poetry were the only arts in Arabia, and also one of the few pastimes in such cultures during long evenings.
JESUS IS

Blacktown, Australia

#16 Sep 15, 2011
Alen wrote:
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Yeah but 50,000 errors ....? That's a lot!
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NAME THEM SCHITT-FACE!
Gumby

Quispamsis, Canada

#17 Sep 15, 2011
MUHAMMAD LYING IN THE QURAN-

Muhammad introduced al-Taqiyya (the lawful lie), Kitman (the lawful half-truth), and permission to break even oaths into his religion. Also one of his slogans was: War is betrayal.

There also are some places in the Quran where an intelligent man like Muhammad clearly knew he was lying - f. ex. when he tells his followers and others that the reason why Allah will not perform - or let Muhammad perform - any miracles, is that it would make nobody believe in Islam anyhow.

This chapter will be finished not later than 2010.

Actually: In the book “The Message of the Quran”, certified by Al-Azhar Al-Sharif Islamic Research Academy in Cairo (one of the 2-3 top universities in the Muslim world on such subjects) in a letter dated 27. Dec. 1998, it is admitted rather reluctantly that there are no proofs for Allah, and that it is not possible to prove him. An additonal point here is that if there are no ptoof for Allah and impossible to ptove him, automatically there also is no proof for, and impossible to prove Muhammad's claimed connection to Allah.
JESUS IS

Blacktown, Australia

#18 Sep 15, 2011
THERE ARE NOT 50,000 ERRORS IN THE BIBLE
There are 50,000 differences between the true KJV Bible and the false Jehovah Witness New World Tranlation of the Bible.
Gumby

Quispamsis, Canada

#19 Sep 15, 2011
MUHAMMAD'S ILLNESS ACCORDING TO BBC
Comments in this book numbered by 3 numbers (included 00 or 0) a few places followed by one small letter = clear cases. Comments numbered by 00 or 0 followed by 1, 2 or 3 letters (big or small)= likely cases.

According to BBC Two (17. April 2003) this illness explains religious experiences like what Muhammad is said to have had.

We quote:

"Controversial new (2003) researsh suggests that whether we believe in a god may not just be a matter of free will. Scientists now believe there may be physical differences in the brains of ardent believers.

Inspiration for this work has come from a group of patients who have a brain disorder called temporal lobe epilepsy (for short: TLE*). In a minority of patients, this condition induces bizarre religious hallucinations ---."

Professor VS Ramachandran, of the University of California in San Diego, believed that the temporal lobes of the brain were key in religious experience.

What professor Ramachandran discovered to his surprise was that when the temporal lobe patients were shown any type of religious imagery, their bodies produced a dramatic change in their (electric*) skin resistance.--- they get a huge galvanic skin response.

This was the very first piece of clinical evidence that the body's responce to religious symbols was definitly linked to the temporal lobes in the brain.

What we suggest is that there are certain circuits whithin the temporal lobes which have been selectively activated in these patients and somehow the activity of these specific neural circuits makes them prone to religious belief.

Yoy may be born with Temporal Lobe Epilepsy - TLE - or it may devellop later, or it may be the result of an accident like a blow to your head.

They (the scientists*) believe what happens inside the minds of temporal lobe epilepsy patients may just be an extreme case of what goes on inside all our minds."

As for the first and may be the second alternative for how you get TLE, science (according to f. ex. New Scientist) later (2007 or 2008) have found that tendensy to beeing religious often is connected to one or a few spesific genes in the persons.

Science further have a theory that religious belief has a value for survival, and hence for the devellopment and spreading of the relevant genes, simply by the fact that a common religion makes the members of a group more strongly connecte, and this makes the group as a group stronger.

This is where science atands today.

But an extra thaory that is relevant here, is that according to the same science, it is possible or likely that "famous religious persons in the past could also have suffered from the condition (TLE*)".

Muhammad is such a "famous religious person".

As for Muhammad, also the fits he often had in connection to some of his "sights" of "messengers", "make every medical professional think about epilepsy."

TLE plus Muhammad's wishes for power can have been the whole start of Islam.
Gumby

Quispamsis, Canada

#20 Sep 15, 2011
Mega Mistakes in the Koran: 1.Originally the sky and the Earth – or Earths – was like smoke (surah 41/11). Well, science says the Earth and the heavens/sky never were smoke (= micro particles “floating” or dispersed in gas). The situation most closely similar to that was the first some 300.000 (380ooo?) years after the Big Bang some 13.7 billion years ago – before the first stars appeared. But for one thing then it only was gas (hydrogen and a little helium) and not smoke – no particles - and for another thing there was no Earth. Our Earth belongs to the 3. generation of stars and planets, and appeared some 4.6 billion years ago (4.57 according to the latest scietific information), made from bits and pieces of stone, metal, minerals, etc. etc., thrown out into the void from exploding older stars – supernovas – at least two times over. Aggregation of everything from pebbles and pieces of stone or ore or metal or anything, to big boulders, comets, asteroids, and even planetoids – mini planets – little by little built the Earth. We still can see the left over building material scattered around out there: Meteors, comets, and also the Kuiper belt and the Oort’s cloud – everything from grains of sand and pebbles to small planets with a diameter of more than 2000 kilometers. And that definitely is not smoke, too. Wrong.
2.Allah then said to the sky and the Earth:“Come ye together ---“,(41/11). But science tells that the Earth and the sky – the universe – never came together for all the 4.57 billion years since Earth came into existence – worse; never since after the Big Bang 13.7 billion years ago. On the contrary; the universe has been expanding, and nearly everything has been speeding away from nearly everything else, ever since the Big Bang – long before the Earth was born. Wrong.
3.The heavens and the Earth then were joined together “as one unit of Creation”(21/30), before Allah clove them asunder (21/30). The Quran says nothing about when the stars etc. were split from the Earth – and science says it has got the story all wrong, to say the least of it. The Earth NEVER was joined together with the heavens or universe as one unit of creation (the time when this was the situation, sometimes is claimed by uneducated Muslims was before the Big Bang – but before the Big Bang and for more than 9.1 billions of years after, there was no Earth to come together with).
4.The creation of the universe and the Earth and all that are on the Earth took 6 days, according to the Quran (7/54 – 25/59 – 32/4 – 50/38 – 57/4)– or perhaps a 8 days, a contradiction (41/9-12).(Muslims tries to explain away that contradiction by saying that 2 days were counted double, but that is not what the Quran says – and no matter: 6 or 8 days are both utterly wrong). No matter whether the “correct” time is 6 or 8 days, there is a huge difference between that and the 13.7 billion years the science tells about, as the creation still continues.– and even compared to the 4.57 billion years of the creation of Earth until man came along. Wrong.
5.The Quran also indirectly, but clearly tells that the Earth was create first and the universe afterwards (41/9-12). But science disagrees. The universe – what we see as heaven or firmament - existed some 9+ billion years before Earth. Wrong.
6.Geographically Hell was lowest (though it is not 100% clear, as there some places are mentioned closeness between Hell and Paradise)– Hell with its 7 gates leading to different parts of Hell, with different levels of unbearable pain and even more unbearable pain, mostly from fire and bad food and drink. At least the geography seems wrong.

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