No Muslim can think of profaning holy...

No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

There are 54739 comments on the Daily Times story from Jan 11, 2011, titled No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf. In it, Daily Times reports that:

'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ...

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Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#45756 Jul 29, 2013
Dragnet52 wrote:
<quoted text>It's not a question of Abrahmic traditions or non Abrahamic ones. The larger question is about how susceptible we are to the influence of doctrine and how difficult it is to come out of its vise-like grip. Just imagine if some charismatic personality with great persuasive powers comes along and sways great masses of people to his message, then how will we separate the wheat from the chaff. It becomes even worse if he fortifies his ideology with the concept of eternal heaven and hell. Which sane individual would then want to take the risk of undergoing eternal punishment due to the slightest of transgressions? In other words, more than the positive message of the scriptures, it's the negative threat of punishment that makes people fall in line.
It is for this reason of separating the wheat from the chaff, that I place great emphasis on a method of discipline whereby we can verify the truth of scriptures within our subjective realms. The search for our true self is part of that truth verification process. Otherwise we could be Christians, Muslims, Hindus or Nazis, but it doesn't make much of a difference as far as truth is concerned.
At least the spiritual discipline will not fool you or play tricks with your mind, nor will it ask you to surrender your better judgement at the altar of some doctrine. Just like athletic prowess demands patience and hard work, so does spiritual discipline at whose culmination you will find that it was worth the effort.
...or..the difference is "what" is it that we expect from the creator
...Eastern Religions **verses** Abrahamic Religions ..

Is God a "father" ...***parent**..??

I ask God , how do I tie my shoes ..?
How do I spell my name ..??
How do I wash my hands ..??
How do I drive a car ..??

How do I serve you ..???...ANSWER ...THIS IS "HOW" YOU SERVE ME ..

We believe God has "already" sent his prophets ..He withholds no answers ...they ,have already been written down ..

Muslims may assert that ,I am referring to their book ..(I assure you my brothers ..Jesus is the first and the last ..)
Mahmood

Schomberg, Canada

#45757 Jul 29, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..no...!..."MUQ " do not leave Islam , what would happen if "you" were forced to join a religion that actually "has" to tell the truth ...??
And , I asked "Why is King Abdullah the lund sucker , giving 5 million , to the military junta in Egypt , who are killing innocent Islamist ...??...Hmmm??
See, it is better if you follow a religion , that is tied to the ruling party of the nation you reside in ..Allah knows best ..
Truth and relgion do not mix.

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#45758 Jul 29, 2013
MUQ - wrote:
<quoted text>
Guys like you have created problems for my brown Indians.
My dear Brown Indians,
No matter how high you place yourselves - no matter how hard you try to segregate yourselves from Ngeria, Ghana, Pakistan, Bangladesh or even Sri Lankans - you will be dragged and put in the same category by your Masters.
Here is a piece of news for you.
Britain confirms 3000-pound cash bond for visas for visitors from India and 5 other countries
AP | Jul 29, 2013, 04.18 PM IST
Britain's Home Office said it hopes the bond system deters overstaying of visas and recovers costs of foreign nationals using public services.
LAGOS, NGERIA: The British Home Office confirms it will demand a 3,000-pound ($4,350) refundable bond for visas for "high-risk" visitors from six former colonies in Africa and Asia.
A statement on Monday says Britain will go ahead with the pilot scheme which has caused outrage, charges of discrimination and warnings of retaliation and that the move will hurt trade.
The statement sent by email did not say when the pilot would start. It said if the scheme is successful Britain would like to apply the bond "on an intelligence-led basis on any visa route and any country."
The countries affected are Ngeria, Ghana, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.
Britain's Home Office said it hopes the bond system deters overstaying of visas and recovers costs of foreign nationals using public services.
oh ??..and what happens to Sri Lankans , Bangladeshis , Pakistanis and Nigerians ..WHO OVER STAY THEIR "VISAS" ..In your country ..I bet Indians are much more generous to the undocumented ...

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#45759 Jul 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>

Contact me when you have picked up enough courage to "name" the religion that is better than Islam.
obviously , Buddhism , Judaism and Christianity ..

But, you Muslims seem to prefer "secularism" ..not a path I would recommend , but who am I ..

allah knows best

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#45760 Jul 29, 2013
irfan wrote:
<quoted text>
This is what i call zakir naik type BS ,thick skinned obstinate people throw logics like this to prove themselves right
how can you prove islam is best when you see just the opposite in deeds in reality?either laws are wrong or the people are wrong,not every body can be wrong so i presume something wrong with islam itself when we see extremism and disorder is becoming synonymous with islam,the quranic verses are to be blamed because the writer of these verse didnt imagine,how wrongly it could be interpretated and if people believe its direct word of god it would give them a licence to do anything misinterpreting them ..
And lastly i want to ask even if someday if some one gonna prove islam is worst,WILL YOU ADMIT THEIR PROVE?will you deviate from your stand ?
..whoa..."MUQ" and his Wahhbists ( or Salafi movement ) get detractors from every angle ...

Show some pity , and throw these men a bone ..So, I want you to share .."What do you find to be of beauty in the religion of Mohammad and his Quran ...??"

be nice ..

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#45761 Jul 29, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
Truth and relgion do not mix.
..OH , YEAH ...HOCKEY "IS" STUPID ...!!!

Ah, come on "Mahmood" ..every..religion has the "golden rule" .."Do unto others ,what you would have them do unto you ."

and, that is truth ..eh..

sorry a boot the hockey thing ..if it's any consellation ; my brother like to go to those, gay ass games ..

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#45762 Jul 29, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
Truth and relgion do not mix.
.."Mahmood"..you have no skin in this game ...may I ask ..??

What do you believe should be done with Jammu and Kashmir ..?

and, what, do expect for consequences ..of that ..??

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#45763 Jul 29, 2013
Dak-Original wrote:
<quoted text>
Kashmir is swarming with Indian regulars because Pakistan held Kashmir sliver is swarming with well financed terrorist infrastructure to this day. The former jihadist agenda holding Nawaz Shariffs' cooing "about turn" words prior to his election have not reduced those structures.
Ahh..Now I understand ...(why did you use such a dumb word as "cooing" pigeons do this ; it's a pretty noise )

So, India cannot/will not 'just' assert their authority ..and, fire bomb that "sliver" of Islamic terrorism ..

or, are you calling the "whole" of Kashmir a sliver ....

because , I already told you that glacier belongs to Pakistan ...they 'will' fight for it ..

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#45765 Jul 29, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
Truth and religion do not mix.
Good point you make

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#45766 Jul 29, 2013
Thank you Mahatma Gandhi Ji for your advice !!!
irfan wrote:
<quoted text>
I have this feeling that quran written at prophets time is different from what we see today,after analysing quran i have this feeling that guys who wrote quran were inspired by books written before it and a lot of research have gone before giving into final shape of it
p.s : you can resist to badmouth prophets of any religion coz that would increase the weightage of the content you want to convey,you would feel bad if any muslim abuses ganpati bhagwan,right?
M UQ

Hefei, China

#45767 Jul 29, 2013
Gai hamari mata haey,
Ham saab Kattu ooskO khata haey,
Isliey haar kattu madarchod kahlata haey.
Paar Kattu Kutaa kyon nahi kahata haey ?
Kyonki Kutto sE kaatu gaand marawata haey!
Gai kha kar , gaand marakar kattu suwar paar sawar Jannat ki sair ko jata haey!
Isliey haar kattu Madarchod kahlata haey !
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Gaye Hamari Mata Hai
Saari Dunya usko Khaata Hai
Hum Kutton ki Tarah Mata to Martey Dekhtain Hain
Aur Rone Ke Alawa Aur Kuch Nahin Kar Saktey Hain
KAASH HAMNE GAYE TO MATA NA MANA HOTA
TO IS BESHARMI KA SAMNA NAHIN KARNA HOTA

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#45768 Jul 29, 2013
MUQ's response is as meaningless as you accusation that he is responding HK.

Have I ever claimed that I am the best 'Gali-baaj', so that for every you honour me with responsibility of best gali galuch in forum ?????

Bhatkti Atma Chaddi - apney saar sE chutiyapE kaa bhut ootar !
irfan wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the most absurd and worthless post you have ever made muq,you are responding haji kaji in same coin and you are taunting hindu's powerlessness in averting cow slaughter in india by muslims and christians even though hindus are 75% of india and they worship cow as their mother
Can i remind you muq that b.j.p ruled state have already banned cow slaughter and even congress ruled state like andhra pradesh,himachal pradesh have enacted similar laws,are you waiting for the time when the law gets enacted throughout india?
Guys like you are sole causes of communal riots,let not taunt them when someday they would do the same,don't take their easy goingness and humility as their WEAKNESS ,congress party is similar to b.j.p and if it was not for the vote bank politics,they could have annihilated us from the map of india like your beloved country pakistan have done to hindus there .

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#45769 Jul 30, 2013
irfan wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with islam and muslim is we have been fed right from childhood that islam is the best coz thats what is written in quran and quran is supposed to be indisputable words of god
i must agree to harminder's thought that only a imperfect person shouts i am perfect,0nly a mediocre shouts that i am a genious and only an imperfect religion claims its the perfect,great people never tell you they are great
Having said that i must also add,every religion has this problem
The Christian religions are no different that they seem to think they are the gate keepers to life after death..

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#45770 Jul 30, 2013
HAJI KAJI wrote:
MUQ's response is as meaningless as you accusation that he is responding HK.
Have I ever claimed that I am the best 'Gali-baaj', so that for every you honour me with responsibility of best gali galuch in forum ?????
Bhatkti Atma Chaddi - apney saar sE chutiyapE kaa bhut ootar ! <quoted text>
How do Hindu's survive in foreign countries when dead cow is on display in shops and publicity photo's ?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#45772 Jul 30, 2013
irfan wrote:
<quoted text>
Muq,this is not the reason why islam asks to mass slaughter on bakri eid or eid ul azha,you know the reasons and islam strongly prohibits killing old,weak,disease cattles for the purpose of sacrifice,so where your discussion stands out in reality?
I asked you to me, how many animals are killed for food every day?

You ducked that question and are worried about "mass slaughter" on the Day of Eid Al Azha.

Either you should lead the movement that killing animals for food is not correct or it is OK.

Without a principled stand , your ranting are just useless.
harminder

Mumbai, India

#45774 Jul 30, 2013
The muslim “Eid”“festival”...accounts for more than 100 MILLION SLAUGHTERING OF ANIMALS IN ONLY 2 DAYS OF EID. In Pakistan alone nearly 10 million animals are slaughtered on Eid days costing over US$ 3 billion." ("Eid al-Adha", Wikipedia)

No wonder Muslims are in a total mess . When muslims believe that slaughtering various animals (mostly goats and cows) for their pleasures or traditions (or modes of TRANSPORT after death some JOKE ….)is in service to their spiritual development and aligned with the Divine Will of ALLAH , we CANNOT expect much light to come forth from humanity in this spiritual condition.

This mass animal slaughter is without parallel anywhere else. It directly goes against the very concept of what muslims claim (and HOWL from rooftops) that islam is about PEACE.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#45775 Jul 30, 2013
harminder wrote:
The muslim “Eid”“festival”...accounts for more than 100 MILLION SLAUGHTERING OF ANIMALS IN ONLY 2 DAYS OF EID. In Pakistan alone nearly 10 million animals are slaughtered on Eid days costing over US$ 3 billion." ("Eid al-Adha", Wikipedia)
No wonder Muslims are in a total mess . When muslims believe that slaughtering various animals (mostly goats and cows) for their pleasures or traditions (or modes of TRANSPORT after death some JOKE ….)is in service to their spiritual development and aligned with the Divine Will of ALLAH , we CANNOT expect much light to come forth from humanity in this spiritual condition.
This mass animal slaughter is without parallel anywhere else. It directly goes against the very concept of what muslims claim (and HOWL from rooftops) that islam is about PEACE.
Why is the slaughter of cattle by Muslims within Hindu Society be not be seen by Islam as disrespect ?
harminder

Mumbai, India

#45776 Jul 30, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Why is the slaughter of cattle by Muslims within Hindu Society be not be seen by Islam as disrespect ?
your question on slaughter must be extended to millions of goats also

besides religion , the huge slaughter of goats has reduced goat population .

Cows are stolen by muslim thugs and sold into mumbai where they are slaughtered and smuggled to the middle east

now u have been here for a long time…and you STILL ask "Why is the slaughter of cattle by Muslims within Hindu Society be not be seen by Islam as disrespect”?…

the answer is simple….MUSLIMS ARE USELESS INBRED ILLITERATE BRAIN DEAD AUTOMATONS
Dak-Original

Slough, UK

#45777 Jul 30, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>I don't even "know" what that means ..I stand with "ifran" ..give the Jammu and Kashmiri "a" vote ...they, will choose to leave ...!
I think you know this too ...
This is "why" we don't give California , Texas or Alaska a vote to succeed ..cause ,they just might try it ..
Not a response, chuy! Kashmiris, including those who live outside the valley vote in large numbers in elections and they do not vote for odd separatist from India when few of those partake in elections. It is the principle that India is following. Strategically, India would now never give up on Kashmir. Main stream politicians in Pakistan know this but they continue to use it as the sentiments of the public is to covet Pakistan on false basis that they have been told "India is for Hindus and Pakistan for Muslims. What happened to Bengalis in state created for muslims? What happened to muslim Baluchis in muslim Pakistan? The jihadist lot in Pakistan want to gobble up all India , but in phases. Shias lives are far more protected in India than in muslim Pakistan. Do you think Kashmiris are ignorant? Kashmiris are fed up with the situation but that can only change when Pakistani rulers dismantle jihadist infrastructure and policies (internal and external) to benefit all in the region and that includes Pakistanis themselves.
RedHorseRevelati on

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#45778 Jul 30, 2013
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Bible PROOF 1.5 BIL MUSLIMS to die ---

http://youtu.be/n7ok0g8iwJI

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