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No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

There are 54739 comments on the Daily Times story from Jan 11, 2011, titled No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf. In it, Daily Times reports that:

'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ...

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“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

May the Force be with You .

#43740 Jun 12, 2013
papa jee wrote:
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oye sardar jee kiddan kudi chodo? oye keel haaal hair turban sahib? oh balle balle bud bud ding gong jee khalsa palsa gobind ding dong jee? falsa palsa jee kee haal hai paki bundjab stinky jee? Western world not only worried of paki illegals but also stinky hairy sikh illegals building slums in London
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17183171
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-20496...
thick sardar jee khalsa crap take off the turban and get hair cut bloody chamar
These peoples who are trapped in no mans land need to dob in those who took their monies to leave their homelands as well as those landlords who profit from them.
Muskarata Jadoogar

Pittsburgh, PA

#43741 Jun 12, 2013
HAJI KAJI wrote:
So you think all expats in Chinkuland earn in RMB ? Ha....ha....
By and large beggars do get their handouts in local currencies. One US dollar here and there thrown on your face doesn't change your whole collection in to dollars.
HAJI KAJI wrote:
And NRE accounts are maintained in Foregn currancy by Expats ? Ha...ha...
You remind me a chutiya Kattu (like you), back from Middle East and bluffing his friends about the different sizes of USD currancy notes..........in a train....
If your NRE account is not maintained in foreign currency so why are you jerking off when Dollar got appreciated? Fuddu, ganwaar... bhikhmange... when your money is already converted in Rupees then dollar appreciation will only hurt you as if you want to convert your rupees back to dollas, you would get a lot less! Hahahahaha ! Got you by your balls, afeemchi ! Didn't I ch0otiye? Go..and slap your face for this chutiya talk you did with me.
HAJI KAJI wrote:
Ha...ha...when I showed him USD currancies from my wallet , all same size.....10, 20,100, 1.....He just grinned & agreed he was a bhikari in Mecca during Ramdan......he is only aquainted with coins.....chillard !
Ja aab lund pakard kar nach- Muslim Nirvana milega !
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These are very old Madaari tricks frequent travelers do not get impressed with. Grow up, uneducated man !

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#43742 Jun 12, 2013
Ha...ha....Sharing ur Bhimanga experience in Mecca ? I would not know...wire transfer ki baat karo tou kuchh knowledge share kaar sakta hoon !

Again .....coins are not accaepted to open a NRE account ...so ypu don't have any knowledge about it ! FCNR , ya forward trading with bank sooney hou gandoo bhikmangey of Mecca ?

Opps Madrasi Joke...? I am sure you must be wondering what's wrong with the Kattu idea ? different USD bills should be of different size logicaly !
Muskarata Jadoogar wrote:
<quoted text>
By and large beggars do get their handouts in local currencies. One US dollar here and there thrown on your face doesn't change your whole collection in to dollars.
<quoted text>
If your NRE account is not maintained in foreign currency so why are you jerking off when Dollar got appreciated? Fuddu, ganwaar... bhikhmange... when your money is already converted in Rupees then dollar appreciation will only hurt you as if you want to convert your rupees back to dollas, you would get a lot less! Hahahahaha ! Got you by your balls, afeemchi ! Didn't I ch0otiye? Go..and slap your face for this chutiya talk you did with me.
<quoted text>
These are very old Madaari tricks frequent travelers do not get impressed with. Grow up, uneducated man !
harminder

Mumbai, India

#43743 Jun 12, 2013
THE THE UNKNOWN PAINFUL TRUTH OF TAJ MAHAL

1:MUMTAZ WAS SHAHJAHAN'S 4TH WIFE OUT OF HIS 7 WIVES.

2:SHAHJAHAN KILLED MUMTAJ'S HUSBAND IN WAR FIELD TO MARRY HER.

3:MUMTAZ DIED AFTER HER 14TH DELIVERY.

4:SHAHJAHAN THEN MARRIED MUMTAZ'S SISTER.

5:PEOPLE WHO BUILT TAJMAHAL ALL WERE KILLED BY SHAHJAHAN.

6:Aurangzeb (SON OF SHAHJEHAN) engaged an eunuch called I'tibar Khan (also known as Khoja Phul) to harass his father. I'tibar Khan was made in-charge of the Agra Fort where Shah Jahan was kept. I'tibar Khan troubled Shah Jahan and spared no chance of humiliating him.

DO U STILL FEEL TAJ MAHAL IS TRUE SYMBOL OF LOVE?

THINK OVER IT AND EVEN LET OTHERS THINK OVER------IT'S TRUE
harminder

Mumbai, India

#43744 Jun 12, 2013
THE VIOLENT INTOLERANT DEVIANT MUSLIM MUGHAL "RULERS"

Aurangzeb was a strict Islamist and he believed in simple life. He knew that Shah Jahan had spent too much money from the royal treasure to construct the Taj Mahal so he considered Shah Jahan as an insane man who would ultimately collapse the Mughal empire in the course of appeasing his endless desires. Shah Jahan also loved his elder son Dara Shikoh more that any of his children. Dara Shikoh was a modest prince and he was more tolerant towards the Hindus in India. He translated many of Hindu literature into Persian and opposed destruction of Hindu temples. Aurangzeb declared Dara as a threat to Islam and despised him because people considered Dara noble and kind and they considered Aurangzeb evil and power hungry. Shah Jahan always sided Dara and also sent military support to Dara against Aurangzeb during the Battle of Samugarh.

Also during his house arrest, Shah Jahan tried to poison Aurangzeb on account of dinner but unfortunately shrewd Aurangzeb outsmarted his father as he had his informants all over in the Agra Fort.

His roots of hatred towards his father were deep since his childhood days.
When Aurangzeb was small, he and Dara were put to house arrest on the orders of his grandfather Jahangir. Noor Jehan the empress who was Jahangir's wife exiled Shah Jahan. For many years Aurangzeb and Dara were under the house arrest by Noor Jehan. She told the female maids and servants in the fort to sexually abuse and molest young Aurangzeb and Dara. These events had a great trauma on the young minds on Aurangzeb and Dara. As a result Aurangzeb became more religiously fanatic wheras Dara lost faith in Islam. Aurangzeb considered his father's inability to rescue them as the biggest reason for the bitter hatred towards Shah Jahan.
harminder

Mumbai, India

#43745 Jun 12, 2013
I'tibar Khan, the Moghul eunuch

Emperor Shah Jahan was a great Mughal ruler of India who built the famous Taj Mahal. He became ill In 1658 and was declared incapable ruling and thus was put on a house arrest by his own son Aurangzeb. Shah Jahan suffered a lot during his later life, his own son Aurangzeb put him to house arrest and declared himself as the new emperor. Aurangzeb hated his father like an enemy and made all possible attempts to make his life miserable.

Aurangzeb engaged an eunuch called I'tibar Khan (also known as Khoja Phul) to harass his father. I'tibar Khan was made in-charge of the Agra Fort where Shah Jahan was kept. I'tibar Khan troubled Shah Jahan and spared no chance of humiliating him.

I'tibar Khan was a male by birth. He was born in the province of Bengal in a very poor family. In earlier times the poor parents used to Emasculate their sons and would employ them in the emperor's royal harem to gain a source of income. I'tibar Khan was castrated as a boy and turned into eunuch and was employed as an escort and domestic servant in the Mughal royalty. This event caused a deep physical and mental impact on him. I'tibar Khan was a politically shrewd and cunning person. Soon he became the personal adviser of Aurangzeb. During the house arrest, I'tibar Khan troubled Shah Jahan and kept Aurangzeb updated about his moves.

On May 30, 1658, Shah Jahan's elder son Dara Shikoh, was defeated by Aurangzeb in the Battle of Samugarh, and was ultimately beheaded. Aurangzeb murdered his own brother cruelly. It is said that Aurangzeb sent Dara's head in a box at the hands of I'tibar Khan to the Agra Fort. That night I'tibar Khan waited until Shah Jahan sat for dinner. On the dinner table I'tibar Khan served Shah Jahan the box. When Shah Jahan opened the box he was shocked to see his son Dara's head in it. He screamed and fell unconscious on the table. When Shah Jahan gained conscience, I'tibar Khan began pulling off the beard hairs from the severed head of Dara. As he plucked the hair, blood began to flow from the pores and I'tibar Khan enjoyed the whole act while helpless Shah Jahan cried in grief. Later I'tibar Khan narrated Aurangzeb and his sister Roshanara Beghum all the incident that took place. On hearing all this Aurangzeb and his sister rejoiced and listened with great amusement and laughed. Such was this cruel and inhuman eunuch I'tibar Khan.

On the advice of I'tibar Khan Aurangzeb gave Shah Jahan slow poison. I'tibar Khan would secretly mix dosage of poison in Shah Jahan's food. This caused a great decline in the health of Shah Jahan and eventually he became bed ridden. I'tibar Khan once brought a poisonous massage oil and secretly ordered the royal masseur of Shah Jahan to massage that oil on Shah Jahan's body. When this oil was applied on Shah Jahan's body, it caused him severe itching. The pain was unbearable and within days his body had become cole black with puss filled boils and blisters. After all this pain and sufferings at the hands of his own son, Shah Jahan died on 22 January 1666. Aurangzeb didn't attend his funeral. Shah Jahan's body was buried next to his wife Mumtaz's tomb inside the Taj Mahal.

THIS IS "PEACEFUL ISLAM" IN ACTION. MUSLIM RULERS STILL HAVNT CHANGED OR EVOLVED. GADAFFI, SADDAM ASSAD, MUSHARRAF,THEY ARE WORSE THAN AURANGZEB

Thus it is said that the emperor who built the beautiful Taj Mahal, himself became ugly towards the end of his life and died a very gruesome death.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#43746 Jun 13, 2013
Mahmood wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear Brother MUQ, what we have is an absence of evidence. All we have is a book called the Koran, and we are not sure who wrote it & when it was written. Forget the Koran, show me a copies of sura # 2,3,5 & 9 written during the 7th century? This is a challenge to all Muslims.
All religions are a quintessential web of lies, and that is the sad truth. Islam is no exception. Crtical research into the sources of faith, the Koran & the hadith was essentially forbidden, so how the hell can you trust those text? Am I supposed to swallow the snake oil just as you have done?
Brother Mahmood

There is a problem with you. You do not look at the evidence which is right in front of you.

If you read any book, you should first look at the preface of the book, to find who wrote it?

In Quran the "First Verse starts "This is the book in which there is no doubt"? That shows who wrote it, does it not?

And then there is a challenge for whole mankind to bring a "book like it".

So the "simplest way to prove that Quran is wrong in its claim was to produce some thing in Arabic language that is equal or better than Quran.

If you cannot do it and shall never be able to do it, then be ready to face the penality of bringing false charge against the book.

You will look every where but not at the book itself, This is the basic kink against the book which you inherited from your parents.

I did explain that when we had that discussion about your childhood and upbringing.

Why you keep on again and again with the same arguments?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#43747 Jun 13, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..I owe 'you' an apology ..."I always believed we kept Muslims in Guantanamo Bay ,Cuba ; because to release them to 'their' nation of origin meant torture ...Not 'true" ..We 'just' don't, want to release them ...
The apology is not sincere....it starts from "You had no right to take them to Cuba"?

If there were arrested and brought them on some charge, it should have been proven and either they were punished or released.

In this case there was no legal process followed.

The apology therefore is not complete.
harminder

Mumbai, India

#43748 Jun 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
The apology is not sincere....it starts from "You had no right to take them to Cuba"?
If there were arrested and brought them on some charge, it should have been proven and either they were punished or released.
In this case there was no legal process followed.
The apology therefore is not complete.
keep watching

gunatanamo is just a SMALL start

there WILL be large scale internment of muslims
Mahhmood

Shanghai, China

#43750 Jun 13, 2013
Brather MUQ,

There is a kink in your understanding......

If anything cannot be produced in Arabic language that is equal or better than Quran what does it indicate ?

Plainly Arabic is dumb and dead language and doesn't have brains to produce philosophy and litrature !

That is the reason it is not used by any intelligent race....and only few percent of total population speak this language shows that it cannot be God'd language.

Real kowledge is not contained by language......you read Einstein's Theory of Relativity in any languges.....you will call that a great knowledge ....but Quran ? A chutiyapanthi -Puran written in Arabic! You cannot have a more BS book in any other language ....if have tell us !

MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Brother Mahmood
There is a problem with you. You do not look at the evidence which is right in front of you.
If you read any book, you should first look at the preface of the book, to find who wrote it?
In Quran the "First Verse starts "This is the book in which there is no doubt"? That shows who wrote it, does it not?
And then there is a challenge for whole mankind to bring a "book like it".
So the "simplest way to prove that Quran is wrong in its claim was to produce some thing in Arabic language that is equal or better than Quran.
If you cannot do it and shall never be able to do it, then be ready to face the penality of bringing false charge against the book.
You will look every where but not at the book itself, This is the basic kink against the book which you inherited from your parents.
I did explain that when we had that discussion about your childhood and upbringing.
Why you keep on again and again with the same arguments?
Mahhmood

Shanghai, China

#43751 Jun 13, 2013
Like using them in place of coal in Blast furnace ...to make steel !

Or to fuel powerplants !
harminder wrote:
<quoted text>
keep watching
gunatanamo is just a SMALL start
there WILL be large scale internment of muslims
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#43752 Jun 13, 2013
Mahhmood wrote:
Brather MUQ,
There is a kink in your understanding......
If anything cannot be produced in Arabic language that is equal or better than Quran what does it indicate ?
Plainly Arabic is dumb and dead language and doesn't have brains to produce philosophy and litrature !
That is the reason it is not used by any intelligent race....and only few percent of total population speak this language shows that it cannot be God'd language.
Real kowledge is not contained by language......you read Einstein's Theory of Relativity in any languges.....you will call that a great knowledge ....but Quran ? A chutiyapanthi -Puran written in Arabic! You cannot have a more BS book in any other language ....if have tell us !
<quoted text>
Arabic is dumb and dead language?

being the official language of more than 50 countries in the world, spoken by more than a Billion People, dead and dumb language?

What has gotten into you Brother Mahmood?

Why the "Kink" should become a major Crack in your reasoning?

The Quranic challenge is still open for all mankind.

I doubt if any other book in the world could have withstood that challenge for so many centuries.

And for your info, there are Millions of Arab Christians and Jews, who speak Arabic since generations.

Look at Arabic Translations of Bible, even a child will tell you that they are no match with Quranic Arabic!!

We should stay neutral and calm in these debates. I see you jumping here and there and just doing any thing and every thing to prove an unprovable thing.

I had closed arguments with you after diagnosing your basic problem. I do not know why you keep coming back again and again.

Have a nice day and enjoy you can of beer!!
Sajid 03045119046

United States

#43753 Jun 13, 2013
Oy kafir ky bacho acha o ga agar ahmry nabi ki shan ma gustagi na karo tou kioun ik muslman ko apny nabi sy ahgy kuch ahzez nai ha ya tk us maa baap tm kn sy bhaag ki muli o himat ha tou call kr mjy apna tekana bta KASM tery itny tkry kro ga ky saaly ginta raie ga
Dak-Original

Saint Andrews, UK

#43755 Jun 13, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>..okay...'you're' going with "mahmood" on historical personalities ...let, me ask 'you'..(you're a thoughtful man)..."Did Sun Tzu ,really exist ,of 'Art of War' fame ..???
I do not deny that a person called Jesus did exist and he was really minded about poor, etc. However, I do not believe in very clever claims made by him. his claims undermined both his Jewish brethren and the Roman overlords. After his death, the claims of resurrection were made by those closest to him. Such miracle claims these days are only possible in illiterate mainly non-muslim (death penalty there!) nations of today. Have you been to Haiti?
Dak-Original

Saint Andrews, UK

#43756 Jun 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Brother Mahmood
There is a problem with you. You do not look at the evidence which is right in front of you.
If you read any book, you should first look at the preface of the book, to find who wrote it?
In Quran the "First Verse starts "This is the book in which there is no doubt"? That shows who wrote it, does it not?
And then there is a challenge for whole mankind to bring a "book like it".
So the "simplest way to prove that Quran is wrong in its claim was to produce some thing in Arabic language that is equal or better than Quran.
If you cannot do it and shall never be able to do it, then be ready to face the penality of bringing false charge against the book.
You will look every where but not at the book itself, This is the basic kink against the book which you inherited from your parents.
I did explain that when we had that discussion about your childhood and upbringing.
Why you keep on again and again with the same arguments?
Logic? Find a book which makes a similar unprovable and unproven claim of its own "authencity"? OH! MUQ!
NB: Two centuries later the best scribes/poets of Arabic language were used and they wrote with the "reverence factor" in mind. no different from a sculptor who may erect a statute with that "factor" in mind!
Dak-Original

Saint Andrews, UK

#43757 Jun 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
The apology is not sincere....it starts from "You had no right to take them to Cuba"?
If there were arrested and brought them on some charge, it should have been proven and either they were punished or released.
In this case there was no legal process followed.
The apology therefore is not complete.
US President Bush II worked it out all and hence use of non-US state to get at the culprits at any cost. However, Al Quaida did not realise that their crimes would cause such effect on many innocent lot in Pakistan/Afghanistan. Pakistan allowed so many innocent ones to be taken on the word of "informers" who were merely settling personal scores.
Dak-Original

Saint Andrews, UK

#43758 Jun 13, 2013
US President Bush II worked it out all and hence use of non-US state to get at the culprits at any cost. However, Al Quaida did not realise that their crimes would cause such effect on many innocent lot in Pakistan/Afghanistan. Pakistan allowed so many innocent ones to be taken on the word of "informers" who were merely settling personal scores.

..and yet Pakistan finds it difficult to apprehend those terror planners of Mumbai carnage and Pakistan shelters known criminals from India. Hope the new (new page!) PM of Pakistan reads these forums!
Mahhmood

Shanghai, China

#43759 Jun 13, 2013
MUQ Brather,
Just tell me if you know how many percentage of human population speak or understand Arabic today ? Don’t know ? hardly 3 %!!!! Shocked you are , ain’t it ? And let me tell you it includes all the dialect, which are in many cases unintelligible to each other !

It is much below Hindi or Indian languages speaking people even ! For your information Mandarin speaking people top the chart- 13 % of world population !

Then look at the countries and tell (if you find) a single intelligent paper (science, literature , mathematics , philosophy……anything ) which 93 % rest of the world language regard as the best and original ! None …………

Unless you believe IED making manuals are genius books !

And that’s the reason you don’t have anything better than Chutiapanthi- Puran (Quran) in Arabic………….

You should ask why there is no Arabic Book (original) comparable with Newton’s “Principia Mathemetica” even …………..to know why Arabic Language is most unscientific , stone age language………….

U are a kup-munduk (frog in well) type Muslim….who think 3 % is 100%…basic mistake…..kink….

If there is no comparable book in Arabic to Quran (written 1400 years back), blame goes to 3 % Arabic people……….didn’t evolve with time at all after coming down from tree !

Otherwise , 93 % of world have evolved 100 times more and care fkck about Arabic……you need find translate and read & evolve !
Oh NO ….you are a Kup-muduck …….dive back to well , no more debate…..your 3% is your world where most the guys are unlettered (from Mohammad’s time)……and you will not find any book , or philosophy better than Quran !

Time for you t go and bang your head .....BTW you bang your head on carpet (Sunni) or sand of Karbala (Shia)????

It will be nice to know, as people are claiming you are a Shia mole in Sunni camp !

Luv
Mohammad
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Arabic is dumb and dead language?
being the official language of more than 50 countries in the world, spoken by more than a Billion People, dead and dumb language?
What has gotten into you Brother Mahmood?
Why the "Kink" should become a major Crack in your reasoning?
The Quranic challenge is still open for all mankind.
I doubt if any other book in the world could have withstood that challenge for so many centuries.
And for your info, there are Millions of Arab Christians and Jews, who speak Arabic since generations.
Look at Arabic Translations of Bible, even a child will tell you that they are no match with Quranic Arabic!!
We should stay neutral and calm in these debates. I see you jumping here and there and just doing any thing and every thing to prove an unprovable thing.
I had closed arguments with you after diagnosing your basic problem. I do not know why you keep coming back again and again.
Have a nice day and enjoy you can of beer!!
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#43760 Jun 13, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
Have a long hard look at your President whilst members of your military are used as cannon fodder.
..oooh.."Your words ..'Neville Thompson'..they bite like ,steel !"

and, besides 'we' don't really consider predator drones ; as cannon fodder .
number four

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#43761 Jun 13, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
The apology is not sincere....it starts from "You had no right to take them to Cuba"?
If there were arrested and brought them on some charge, it should have been proven and either they were punished or released.
In this case there was no legal process followed.
The apology therefore is not complete.
..Most of these men still remain very dangerous ...I'm not apologizing for 'holding' them ,I hope they rot in there ...I'm apologizing because 'you' were right and I was wrong ...( other nations 'have' asked to take their men back.)

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