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No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf

There are 54739 comments on the Daily Times story from Jan 11, 2011, titled No Muslim can think of profaning holy Prophet (PBUH): Altaf. In it, Daily Times reports that:

'Even minorities living in Pakistan cannot blaspheme against the holy Prophet , hence I appeal to religious leaders of every shade of religious persuasion to stop their demonstrations after clear assurances from Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani that no amendment is being made in the blasphemy law,' Altaf said while talking to an assembly of MQM ...

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#41844 Apr 29, 2013
Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
The so called experts you are quoting with mind numbing regularity could not obtain a single sampling of the tons of debris lying all over the area to prove their explosion theories? These armchair experts have writing volumes without ever examining debris samples for traces of explosives. How?
I suspect these so called experts were hired by Muslims to promote these theories due to fear of repercussions from the US. Coward Muslims did the act and now wanted to avoid the consequences for their actions.
NY firfihters could see smell the substance on entering ground zero and molten steel had been witnessed.

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#41846 Apr 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.

4. So now you are in the act of Mutilating the Text of Quran?
I did not know that you are also amongst those whose hearts are harder than stones.
...okay..You are angry ,(I've read the same posts ,Islam is being attacked at every turn ..sorry..)...terrorists are monsters "MUQ" or very ,very sick people ...Yet..the problem we face ..Is, You CAN NOT refute them ...ideologically ..they are "doing" exactly ,what the Quran commands ...

Sure, 4 people died ,and many lost limbs in America ...and, in the very same week Iraq , Afghanistan ,Pakistan ...

It is like ,the Devil now runs your Faith ..

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#41847 Apr 29, 2013
Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
I am curious to know which explosives melt steel.
...Plutonium and Uranium ...

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#41848 Apr 29, 2013
Ooooooops....how did those unlettered people keep the headcount ? Tell me Ohhhh...genius MUQ just tell me how many Muslims died in last 10 years by direct or indirect attack of world community ? Your statement will have next internal bombing among Muslims..as all know limited counting !

At least 50 % of the desert population was annihilated by Mohammad's blood thirsty campaigns , and 100 % souls went missing forever !

It is just the most literate Baddu knew counting up to 1000 !

MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
The "facts" have to be told as they happened. You cannot gain any thing by hiding the facts.
But when you consider that total number of human casualties , on both sides, in his ten years of warfare does not even exceed 1000, we are convinced of "peace full nature of our Warrior Prophet".
How many times Ramayana is depicted in India every year? Now how many people lost their lives in that battle? What effect it makes on Non Hindu people when they hear these stories?
And do you know how many people lost their lives in the famous Mahabharat War, and does it stop people talking about it in India?
When you are telling the biography of our prophet, his whole life history, we have to talk about every major event in his life.
I do not know there was any exaggeration in the way the stories are being told.
And it is not that Non Muslims are generally know about actual life of our prophet. Most people of this thread know very little about the real life history of our prophet.
They have just heard some thing from hearsay and they construct their whole belief about our prophet based on this little knowledge.
And when I post the real and authentic life story of his life, slowly one page per day, they think I am hogging the thread.
And here you come with objection about his opponents who were killed in the battle field or were punished for their crimes.

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#41849 Apr 29, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
<quoted text>
A Brit had to teach Islamic Arabian desert dwellers on how to take fight to Islamic Ottoman Empire of Islam who had governed their existance makes me wonder if Arabia was seen as an outpost of Islam Central in Turkey and why the hostility towards each other seeing they are both Muslim ?
A)Christians fight each other too..

B)The Turks kicked your Australian butts ..

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#41850 Apr 29, 2013
What is fact and what is fiction ? Stories written 100 years after an event (assumed) can best be a fiction......

Nobody writes copy paste Ramayan Mahabharat Vedas Bible in Forum ! What fkc makes you and ur Islam so special and insecure to copy paste them in forum in tonnes ?

Your posts just endorses general view that Mohammad was a khunkhhar Chodu Maharaj ! Every post on his life from you tells how many heads he rolled.....even the head count from your post exceeds 1000........we can agree if you say Mohammad only busted 1000 phuddis !

You should be tracked and impaled for spreading violence in name of Islam !
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
The "facts" have to be told as they happened. You cannot gain any thing by hiding the facts.
But when you consider that total number of human casualties , on both sides, in his ten years of warfare does not even exceed 1000, we are convinced of "peace full nature of our Warrior Prophet".
How many times Ramayana is depicted in India every year? Now how many people lost their lives in that battle? What effect it makes on Non Hindu people when they hear these stories?
And do you know how many people lost their lives in the famous Mahabharat War, and does it stop people talking about it in India?
When you are telling the biography of our prophet, his whole life history, we have to talk about every major event in his life.
I do not know there was any exaggeration in the way the stories are being told.
And it is not that Non Muslims are generally know about actual life of our prophet. Most people of this thread know very little about the real life history of our prophet.
They have just heard some thing from hearsay and they construct their whole belief about our prophet based on this little knowledge.
And when I post the real and authentic life story of his life, slowly one page per day, they think I am hogging the thread.
And here you come with objection about his opponents who were killed in the battle field or were punished for their crimes.

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#41851 Apr 29, 2013
Dragnet52 wrote:
<quoted text>The protagonists in the Mubarakpuri stories have a very nonchalant attitude when it comes to killing others. This is even more striking when we take into account the fact that none of these worthies faced any mortal danger and yet seem to be trigger-happy. Religious persuasion to convert non muslims on the basis of superior moral and spiritual values doesn't seem to be the favored method for these protagonists. Rather they are more happy unsheathing their swords and swinging them with gay abandon.
As a muslim you may lap it up without blinking your eyes, but have you ever pondered about the effect that it might have on non muslim readers? Are human lives so cheap, bereft of any dignity that they can be snuffed out because of a misplaced sense of piety?
In all fairness "harminder" suggests burning Muslims in nuclear fire ..."Snarling Khan" ...dropping ordnance on them ..."HAJI KAJI" ..ass raping them ..!!!

IF THESE ARE THE ..CHOICES...."Snarling Khan"...Gets "my" vote ....

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#41852 Apr 29, 2013
Ha...ha....Mango kha kE tango(eat mango and get hanged)...was the name of the mission !
harminder wrote:
<quoted text>
Indian Hapoos Mangoes Killed Zia and "gen" akhtar abdar rahim
heh heh heh
it was the most brilliant RAW operation ever
zia went straight to jehennum as he was burnt alive . Ghazi cremated goes to hell and no 72 houris
heh heh heh
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41853 Apr 29, 2013
Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
Then be brave and different for a change and cast your votes for the BJP instead of being suckers and a defined vote bank for Congress! I noticed you used free birds in quotes. Guess that means not free.
What would BJP do for Muslims?

What the BJP Govt. in center for 5 Years did for Muslims?

What did Modi did for Muslims in Gujarat for past 10 years?

Why should we vote for him at center?

Don't you feel shame for asking Muslims to vote for BJP and Modi?
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41854 Apr 29, 2013
Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
The so called experts you are quoting with mind numbing regularity could not obtain a single sampling of the tons of debris lying all over the area to prove their explosion theories? These armchair experts have writing volumes without ever examining debris samples for traces of explosives. How?
I suspect these so called experts were hired by Muslims to promote these theories due to fear of repercussions from the US. Coward Muslims did the act and now wanted to avoid the consequences for their actions.
Who said that they "did not find" traces of Nano Thermites in the dust of WTC debris?

Read the full report, I am posting one page every day.

These experts are Not Muslims and they are not supporters of Osama or Taliban.

What they want is the Truth and only truth. And the beauty of Truth is that no Truth will contradict another truth.

And is someone wants to pass a falsehood as Truth, he has to make 100 lies and still he will be unable to prove it.

This is with the Govt. theory on 9/11, it is as full of holes as Swiss Cheese and they have a "different explanation" for every hole!!

As if on the eve of 9/11, every rule, every law and every thing was suspended.

And now the same people have become super alert, super expert and super intelligent and they will not allow even an ant or pigeon to pass unnoticed!!

Only dummies can swallow this strange transformation in US people before and after 9/11.

To me it seems they are same gullible people brainwashed by the media.

PS

And we see the same trend emerging in India also, RSS and BJP providing the main initative
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41855 Apr 29, 2013
Ar-Raheeq Al-Makhtum,(THE SEALED NECTAR, Biography of the Noble Prophet [pbuh], by SAFI UL RAHMAN al-Mubarakpuri
Jamia Salafia - India Translated by Issam Diab Maktaba Dar-us-Salam Publishers and Distributors, Part-98 A
http://www.witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/SM_t...

The Conquest of Makkah (Contd.)

Khalid bin Al-Waleed at the head of 350 horsemen of Helpers, Emigrants and Bani Saleem was despatched once again in the same year 8 A.H. to the habitation of Bani Khuzaimah bedouins to invite them to the fold of Islam. He was instructed to carry out his mission with peace and goodwill.

There, the people were not articulate enough to communicate their intentions, so Khalid ordered his men to kill them and take the others as captives. He even had in mind to kill the captives but some of the Companions were opposed to his plan. News of bloodshed reached the Prophet [pbuh].

He was deeply grieved and raised his hands towards the heaven, uttering these words: "O Allah! I am innocent of what Khalid has done," twice.[Sahih Al-Bukhari 1/450, 2/622] He immediately sent ‘Ali to make every possible reparation to the tribes who had been wronged.

After a careful inquiry,‘Ali paid the blood-money to all those who suffered loss. The remaining portion was also distributed amongst the members of the tribe in order to alleviate their suffering. Khalid, due to his irrational behaviour, had a row with ‘Abdur Rahman bin ‘Awf. Hearing this, the Prophet [pbuh] got angry, and ordered Khalid to stop that altercation adding that his Companions (meaning ‘Abdur Rahman bin ‘Awf) were too high in rank to be involved in such arguments.

That is the story of the conquest of Makkah and the decisive battle that exterminated paganism once and for all. The other tribes in the Arabian Peninsula were waiting and closely watching the final outcome of the bitter struggle between the Muslims and idolaters, already convinced that the Holy Sanctuary would not fall but in the hands of the righteous party. It had been a conviction deeply established in their minds ever since the elephant army of Abraha Al-Ashram advanced from Yemen intending to destroy the Sacred House 50 years before. Al-Hudaibiyah Peace Treaty was the natural prelude to this great victory in which people believed deeply and over which people talked a lot.

The Muslims in Makkah, who had feared to declare their Faith in public, began to appear and work ardently for this new approach of life. People began to convert into Islam in hosts, and the Muslim army that numbered 3000 only in the previous Ghazwah, now came to reach 10,000 in number. In fact, this decisive change provided people with the keen insight to perceive things and the world around them as a whole in a different perceptive. The Muslims were then to steer the whole political and religious affairs of all Arabia. They had monopolised both the religious supremacy and temporal power.

The whole post-Hudaibiyah phase had been well-fledged in favour of the new Islamic movement. Streams of the desert Arabians began to pour in paying full homage to the Messenger of Allah [pbuh], embracing the new faith and then carrying it to different quarters for propagation.

Abridged
(Contd.)
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41856 Apr 29, 2013
Revisiting 9/11/2001 --Applying the Scientific Method, Dr. Steven E. Jones Part-8

Fall times for the WTC Towers

38. The collapse time of the South Tower was stated to be 10 seconds in the 9/11 Commission Report (p. 322). The free fall time of a brick dropped from the roof of the tower, which is 1368 feet high, would be 9.2 seconds. The NIST final report avoids all issues that occur after the tower is “poised for collapse”, including the remarkably short collapse time

, http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/NISTNCSTAR1Draft.pdf

39. By ignoring all observations that occur after the towers are “poised to collapse.” NIST inherently ignores molten metal evidence, collapse features which are not well described by the hypothesized failure mode, and most of the forensic evidence contained in the rubble, dust, and aerosols which were collected in the days and months after the collapses. Clearly, NIST is ignoring a lot of data, and that is not good science.

40. Kevin Ryan, co-editor of the Journal of 9/11 Studies, analyzed the question “were fires sufficient to cause complete failure in the steel columnar supports in the Towers?”

http://journalof911studies.com/articles/Artic...

41. He specifically demonstrates that NIST used overreaching assumptions, in some cases blatant assumptions which contradicted physical evidence, in arriving at the conclusion that the towers were “poised to collapse”. By the way, Kevin was fired from Underwriters Laboratories when he publicly disclosed that NIST commissioned UL to perform experiments to test the steel. Model replicas of the WTC floor assemblies were subjected to severe fire endurance tests to see what would happen.

NIST and UL Fall out:

42. When Underwriters Laboratories performed the tests, the floor assemblies did not fail. There was some warping, Kevin Ryan notes about three inches vertical sagging, but the floor assemblies did not fail, and certainly did not melt!

43. This is an example of experimental results contradicting NIST’ s fire and damage model, a big part of the official conspiracy theory. NIST uses computer models to analyze the response of the WTC towers to fire which is fine if done in accordance with data and physical laws. However, the model disregards much of the data. In the scientific method, experimental data form the cornerstone of a model, not vice versa.

In this case, the actual experiments with WTC floor assemblies did not result in collapse or failure. So NIST, in their computerized “black box” simulation allows warping of not just 3 inches which was based on experiments, but over 40 inches! That’s a major extrapolation from the data. You see, again, a departure by NIST from the careful scientific method.

44. The results of Gordon Ross’s paper are particularly important to highlight. The north tower was hit about floor 96 and damage extended over a few floors. After the impact, a block of about fourteen floors was sitting over the weakened area.

http://journalof911studies.com/articles/Journ... And:
http://journalof911studies.com/articles/Artic...

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200... (Contd.)

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#41858 Apr 29, 2013
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
These experts are Not Muslims and they are not supporters of Osama or Taliban.
What they want is the Truth and only truth. And the beauty of Truth is that no Truth will contradict another truth.
..So, "MUQ" ....How many aircraft's struck New York "that" morning ...???

Since: May 12

Las Vegas, NV

#41859 Apr 29, 2013
Observer wrote:
MUQ
You have yet not commented on the Boston bombings. The two brothers were Muslim. Are you waiting for another conspiracy theory to emerge before you start commenting on this?
Also no comment from you about the Times Square bomber Shehzad. Are these "true" Muslims deserving a special place in jannat? How will Allah treat these 3? Do you suspect RSS hand in either of these 2 incidents? Or are these conspiracies to malign true peace loving Muslims?
Hey...UNFAIR..!...Muslims are struck daily with martyr attacks .."they" forget ,that we "expect" an apology ..when ,"their" religion kills non-muslims ...

...(even "lMl2000" was perturbed ,that "not" a single Muslim ..came forward to apologize or condemn the attack )...

“Piss the Queen off Our coins!”

Since: Nov 11

Adelaide

#41861 Apr 29, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>A)Christians fight each other too..
B)The Turks kicked your Australian butts ..
No, they proved how inept the poms were at planning an invasion. The poms did learn tho, they mounted a very effective one in world war 2

At the end of the day, arabs inhabit the filthiest scummiest places on the planet.. and rightly so.

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#41862 Apr 29, 2013
RightO......The subcontinent Muslims were given the biggest handout by Hindoos in name of Pakistan.....First question should be what that Muslim government gave to Muslims or did for Muslims ? Today any Muslims in the subcontinent would not like to be a Pakistani by choice !!!
Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
I suppose Congress has bent over backwards to appease Muslims. You are their vote bank. Guess what? Indians by and large are fed up with Congress appeasing Muslims who refuse to help themselves but are always ready for a handout.
The question you should be asking is what have Muslims done for themselves? This applies to all Muslims worldwide. I have repeatedly asked you to look at the overall performance of the 54 or so Muslim states. Have you bothered to do that?
Why should the govt be responsible for Muslims? Why should Muslims expect preferential treatment?
What has Congress done for India lately? Yet you Muslims will vote for the inept and bungling idiot Rahul.
You can malign NaMo all you want. He has yet not been proven guilty. Moreover he is not corrupt as Rahul & Co.
Muslims who care for the country should send a strong message to Congress by voting for the BJP and Modi

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#41864 Apr 29, 2013
number four wrote:
<quoted text>In all fairness "harminder" suggests burning Muslims in nuclear fire ..."Snarling Khan" ...dropping ordnance on them ..."HAJI KAJI" ..ass raping them ..!!!
IF THESE ARE THE ..CHOICES...."Snarling Khan"...Gets "my" vote ....
If wishes were horses then I would have wanted a peaceful world where everyone including muslims would get along well with each other. From such a perspective all the above suggested options of harminder, Snarling Khan and Haji Kaji don't appeal even to the brutish side of my nature. I feel that it degrades my soul even thinking about those options.

But then life is a hard task master and doesn't seem to have much patience for mawkish sentimentality. Even today we have so many liberals in our world mouthing syrupy quotes about brotherhood, peace, secularism and what not, yet there is turmoil and bloodshed as usual. All the good wars, however brutal they might be, were fought by men who wouldn't even think of harming a fly in their normal lives. I can only hope that humanity doesn't reach such a brink where options envisaged by harminder, Snarling Khan and Haji Kaji doesn't stir your conscience.
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#41865 Apr 30, 2013
Observer wrote:
<quoted text>
I suppose Congress has bent over backwards to appease Muslims. You are their vote bank. Guess what? Indians by and large are fed up with Congress appeasing Muslims who refuse to help themselves but are always ready for a handout.
The question you should be asking is what have Muslims done for themselves? This applies to all Muslims worldwide. I have repeatedly asked you to look at the overall performance of the 54 or so Muslim states. Have you bothered to do that?
Why should the govt be responsible for Muslims? Why should Muslims expect preferential treatment?
What has Congress done for India lately? Yet you Muslims will vote for the inept and bungling idiot Rahul.
You can malign NaMo all you want. He has yet not been proven guilty. Moreover he is not corrupt as Rahul & Co.
Muslims who care for the country should send a strong message to Congress by voting for the BJP and Modi
I think you have no feeling of shame asking Muslims to vote for BJP and Modi.

Are you not "bending yourself over" to convince Muslims to vote for BJP and MODI?

Muslims "never vote for congress" if they find a suitable alternative to congress and BJP. What is happening in UP and Bihar and Bengal and AP and Assam?

When there is "no other alternative" they vote for congress.

And as "below dalit status" they have at least that prerogative!! Do they not?

Why do you not ask "Majority" of Hindus to vote for BJP and MOdi? In that case you will not have to "beg" for Muslims vote!!

Since: Aug 12

Wakefield, U.K.

#41866 Apr 30, 2013
Observer wrote:
@steadyfiend
My ilk does not have scums. Glad to hear you have identified your true links and heritage.
In other words I am saying that I am not schedule caste.

“FREEDOM OF MIND & SOUL-”

Since: Aug 08

MILKY WAY

#41867 Apr 30, 2013
Peace-loving Indians were chanting mantras for a violent Avatara while Muslims were ravaging Somnath ...

Then Peaceloving Indians are writing in reams why India should give up the country to Chinkus ...when they are challenging them in border.........

Well then peace can be enacted by power and power comes from barrel of gun !

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